2010 the monster year

[bighousemike84]

Ok we all agree that 2010 will be a strong year for Michigan but what about UOS? Pryor in his junior year, a running back corp with a sophmore Berry, an offensive line chalk full of 5 stars and solid recievers on either side of the field. I wonder what kind of year 2010 will be for the B10. 2 solid and veteran teams both offensevily and defensively. Maybe another 1 vs. 2

[Medic]

hahah fun to think about but let's get through 2009 first

[amazinblue]

It's going to be a long time - at least five years - before the sportswriters have two Big 10 teams one and two in the country - in November - unless they are the only undefeated teams in the country. Even then, with the eggs that OSU has laid on the national stage lately - and, I predict, will lay again against USC - the media elephant will have quite a memory.

[Mike Furley]

If OSU goes undefeated this year (and i don't think that will happen) they are playing in the championship game. Because even though the sportswriters are having a good time ripping on OSU's big stage defeats, they have a bigger boner for USC (provided USC is USC and not some 8-4 imitation).

[1OSUNUT]

I have to agree. Ohio State will be very good this year and great in 2010.

[ironhide]

No, they are not going to be very good this year. To many holes. Next year maybe. No one, with the exception of the team that is going to destroy you again Sept 13, can replace more than half the teams starters and expect to contend nationally.
But, since that is all you got in your life, well, enjoy!

[Mike Furley]

No, they are not going to be very good this year. To many holes. Next year maybe. No one, with the exception of the team that is going to destroy you again Sept 13, can replace more than half the teams starters and expect to contend nationally.
But, since that is all you got in your life, well, enjoy!

We had our best recruiting class in the Tressel era two years ago. These kids have waited their turn. They are physically more gifted than the players who have been lining up for us these past seven years. If we have successfully reloaded each year with less heralded players, why should we not have expectations these new players will at a minimum keep the performance at the same level as has been on display during the Tressel era?

I'm amazed how because we are only the 6th or 7th best team over the past decade we somehow equal dogshit. We do not. We are better than 115 other division one schools - including Michigan.

[1OSUNUT]

Many of you have forgotten how well Ohio State recruited on the offensive line, skilled positions and defense the last two seasons. The kids that have come in had offers from USC, Florida, LSU.etc. The WR's are much bigger and faster, the linebackers are solid and the offensive line players were 5 star studs - many ranked #1 at their position. These kids have been waiting to show what they can do - now it's their turn. This year will be very solid - next year can be very special.

[byebyelloyd]

Many of you have forgotten how well Ohio State recruited on the offensive line, skilled positions and defense the last two seasons. The kids that have come in had offers from USC, Florida, LSU.etc. The WR's are much bigger and faster, the linebackers are solid and the offensive line players were 5 star studs - many ranked #1 at their position. These kids have been waiting to show what they can do - now it's their turn. This year will be very solid - next year can be very special.

ohio state has to win in ann arbor this year. HAS TO. they will not win another game in the series until rodriguez retires.

[1OSUNUT]

ohio state has to win in ann arbor this year. HAS TO. they will not win another game in the series until rodriguez retires.

That might be the most retarded statement ever posted on this site. If you have haff a brain you will know that Ohio State will be very very good next season and at home. You guys must really think that TP cannot and will not get better. That just is not true. He will be very dangerous this year and an absolute witch in his junior and senior season. He will be a better collge QB then Vince Young was - with more talent around him. The Buckeyes will be NC contenders if not this year then in TP's final two seasons. RR might not be around long enough to see TP as a senior if he does not improve your team. This is a huge year for Michigan football. If you guys lose the opener - watch out. The season could go to hell quickly. Tressel will ALWAYS have Ohio State ready for Michigan. To RR it's just another game (sort of like the Pitt game when he was at WVU) - to JT and Buckeye fans it;s the game. That is the difference.

[amazinblue]

...He will be a better collge QB then Vince Young was - with more talent around him. The Buckeyes will be NC contenders if not this year then in TP's final two seasons...

...RR might not be around long enough to see TP as a senior if he does not improve your team. This is a huge year for Michigan football. If you guys lose the opener - watch out...

...Tressel will ALWAYS have Ohio State ready for Michigan. To RR it's just another game (sort of like the Pitt game when he was at WVU) - to JT and Buckeye fans it;s the game. That is the difference.

Nut,

Where do you pull some of this stuff from?

TP better than Vince Young? Come on now. I believe I've always stated that TP's got a solid set of wheels. But, even you, must admit that his arm leaves something to be desired. You, and others, have been slamming Michigan and Forcier, because he hasn't proved himself. I'll admit that Forcier will most likely make some freshman mistakes - but, I do believe he'll be a noticeable improvement over Threet / Sheridan. Tell me, what gives you such great confidence in the exceptional improvement TP's going to make with his arm? If I were you, I think I'd like to see it in a game first. And, last season, his arm didn't look impressive to me.

I have faith in this Michigan team and RR. And, if the team fails to play "+.500 ball" or looks ill-prepared to take the field, I'll be more than upset. The first game's a bit over a month away and I'm confident that I'll be pleased with the attitude and approach this team takes. I expect to see significant improvement over last year.

Lastly, where do you get this "bs" about RR viewing OSU as "just another game"? Was it from a comment he made after being signed? Well, your opinion or comment seems directly aligned with you - immature and short sighted. Tell me, what did you expect RR to say - we're going to walk into Columbus, with a team that has limited leadership, has consistently underperformed over the last seven years, has an outdated S&C program, and roll over the Buckeyes!

I believe you have no idea what RR is like - actually, I think I do - you view Tressel as a "god" and RR as the "anti-Christ". I tell you, 2010 and 2011 are going to be exceptionally solid seasons for Michigan football. I'm confident your distaste for RR will grow... primarily as a result of the success Michigan / RR are going to have. So, prepare to spew more venom, it will just be indicative of your insecurity and Michigan's accompishments and success on the field.

[Gobluerebirth]

That might be the most retarded statement ever posted on this site. If you have haff a brain you will know that Ohio State will be very very good next season and at home. You guys must really think that TP cannot and will not get better. That just is not true. He will be very dangerous this year and an absolute witch in his junior and senior season. He will be a better collge QB then Vince Young was - with more talent around him. The Buckeyes will be NC contenders if not this year then in TP's final two seasons. RR might not be around long enough to see TP as a senior if he does not improve your team. This is a huge year for Michigan football. If you guys lose the opener - watch out. The season could go to hell quickly. Tressel will ALWAYS have Ohio State ready for Michigan. To RR it's just another game (sort of like the Pitt game when he was at WVU) - to JT and Buckeye fans it;s the game. That is the difference.

Where do I begin? Well first off, it's HALF, not haff. Secondly TP will improve, everyone hates him because he chose OSU over Michigan, I feel the same way. But, he will NOT be better than Vince Young.("That might be the most retarded statement ever posted on this site.")
God forbid a team gets upset in a rivalry game, they must not care about it. Sigh, Pitt outplayed them that game, should Rich have put on pads and went out and played? I get so tired of you bringing that up, it's sick. We could bring up how OSU was supposed to roll Florida, but they didn't, how about LSU, Tressel must not have cared about those games, he just cared about Michigan. That argument is irrational. Sigh.

[Revelli]

While I respect GoBlueRebirth's statment that it is an irrational thought to think that, I must say,... the buckeyes are anything but rational, and therefore the statement is true.

NUT, OSU puts too much emphasis on THE game, which is why you repeatedly get your butts handed to you in bowls. You base your entire self worth on beating Michigan. Your buckeyes could go 1-11 for the season, and as long as you beat Michigan your coach has job security. What kind of inferiority complex does that reveal to you?!?
Michigan does not look at the rivalry in the same way. Which is why your fans don't have to be afraid for their life when you buckeyes come to Ann Arbor every other year. We are not OBSESSED with the rivalry game, we just want to win it when it comes up. We are looking at the big picture in the years to come and you will be nothing but a footnote on our schedule.

"When people insult you, it means they still care about you. When people stop insulting you, it means you don't mean a damn thing to them anymore, and that feels much worse than being hated." - Sammy (the sandman)Davis Jr.

[Gobluerebirth]

While I respect GoBlueRebirth's statment that it is an irrational thought to think that, I must say,... the buckeyes are anything but rational, and therefore the statement is true.
NUT, OSU puts too much emphasis on THE game, which is why you repeatedly get your butts handed to you in bowls. You base your entire self worth on beating Michigan. Your buckeyes could go 1-11 for the season, and as long as you beat Michigan your coach has job security. What kind of inferiority complex does that reveal to you?!?
Michigan does not look at the rivalry in the same way. Which is why your fans don't have to be afraid for their life when you buckeyes come to Ann Arbor every other year. We are not OBSESSED with the rivalry game, we just want to win it when it comes up. We are looking at the big picture in the years to come and you will be nothing but a footnote on our schedule.

"When people insult you, it means they still care about you. When people stop insulting you, it means you don't mean a damn thing to them anymore, and that feels much worse than being hated." - Sammy (the sandman)Davis Jr.

+1. I agree.

[1OSUNUT]

Michigan had better treat the game differently - or they will NEVER go anywhere. You have to run the table or have one loss to have any chance in the Big Ten. Ohio State is and always will circle that game as a must win under Tressel. It's not just another game - to us. If you keep thinking that way your season will end on a sour note every year for a long time.

[Gobluerebirth]

Oh, I forgot. OSU is the unbeatable team. Maybe it's fan fear. If we do win they may march up to Ann Arbor keying peoples cars.

[1OSUNUT]

What was the score last year ? You have a ton of improving to do before your at the level OSU will be at the next three years.

[rickyleach]

michigan will be the best team and football program in the big10 in 2 years, nut you can cream your shorts all you want about ohio state, but michigan will be heads above old school tressel in 2010 and 2011, and really all of us are so used to your stupid shhit we all laugh are asssses off when you post, pryor this and pryor that , who cares , tressel cant win the big game and you will get beat in your bowl game for the 5th or 6 th straight year this winter, SLOW BIG AND FAT THAT IS OHIO STATE..

[1OSUNUT]

Michigan has a slim to no chance of winning this year against Ohio State - and will have a even less chance once TP is a junior and senior. Enjoy at least 3 more years of getting punked by the Buckeyes.

[amazinblue]

What was the score last year ? You have a ton of improving to do before your at the level OSU will be at the next three years.

Nut,

What was the score at halftime? One of the problems Michigan had was playing four solid quarters. Look at what happened to us against PSU. A solid first half followed by a poor second.

I'm sure that you were convinced at halftime that the Bucks would completely roll in the second. I was not.

So. I'm not worried about the Buckeyes - and, we'll see just how easy it will be to be "at OSU's level" on September 13th.

Til then, just keeping drinking the Kool Aid...

[Wolvrin704]

Michigan has a slim to no chance of winning this year against Ohio State - and will have a even less chance once TP is a junior and senior. Enjoy at least 3 more years of getting punked by the Buckeyes.

Same was said of the Bucks in 2001. Same was said of the Bucks in the 2002 MNC. Thats why they play the games goober.

[byebyelloyd]

Same was said of the Bucks in 2001. Same was said of the Bucks in the 2002 MNC. Thats why they play the games goober.

pryor has no chance against not only michigan this year, but will not win another one in college. rodriguez's team will be way too much for the buckeyes this year even with a freshman QB. sorry pussy, michigan went out and hired the one coach who plays the offense your coach fears like a bitch and the rides over. too bad you've been such a bitch, otherwise you wouldn't catch so much hell when ohio state loses.

[1OSUNUT]

Your worried about Western Michigan in the opener then you sprout off about beating Ohio State. The Buckeyes will roll into AA and whip your asses again. Maybe Tressel will not take a knee this time to save you more embarrassment. It's people like you that makes me wish he would of ran it up on Michigan. But he is to classy for that - I'm not sure RR would of done the same.

I will be here to see you eat your words after the Buckeyes roll in week one and Michigan struggles. You have your head so far up RR's ass that you have lost touch with reality. The truth is your a 3-9 football team that is starting a freshman QB - period. Can you say 5-7

[tpilews]

Your worried about Western Michigan in the opener then you sprout off about beating Ohio State. The Buckeyes will roll into AA and whip your asses again. Maybe Tressel will not take a knee this time to save you more embarrassment. It's people like you that makes me wish he would of ran it up on Michigan. But he is to classy for that - I'm not sure RR would of done the same.

I will be here to see you eat your words after the Buckeyes roll in week one and Michigan struggles. You have your head so far up RR's ass that you have lost touch with reality. The truth is your a 3-9 football team that is starting a freshman QB - period. Can you say 5-7

Nut, I think everyone on here would love to take that bet with you. How about this: If UM finishes better than 5-7, you take off from this site, forever. If UM finishes worse than 5-7, or 5-7, we'll all rep you. Sound good? I know you'll never agree to a bet, and your outlandish predictions are exactly that, outlandish. Some people on here would actually value your opinion if you were so obviously biased in your predictions, or actually provided some insight, instead of just spewing shit from your keyboard. Hell, I really like having posters like Furley on here. He seems like a stand up guy. Someone I'd share a beer with while watching a game. However, you NUT, I'm sick of posting in the same forum as you. Feel free to let me know if you'd like to take that bet, or any other. I've already got one set up with some of your buckeye faithful. They're giving UM 21 pts.

[Wolvrin704]

Your worried about Western Michigan in the opener then you sprout off about beating Ohio State. The Buckeyes will roll into AA and whip your asses again. Maybe Tressel will not take a knee this time to save you more embarrassment. It's people like you that makes me wish he would of ran it up on Michigan. But he is to classy for that - I'm not sure RR would of done the same.

I will be here to see you eat your words after the Buckeyes roll in week one and Michigan struggles. You have your head so far up RR's ass that you have lost touch with reality. The truth is your a 3-9 football team that is starting a freshman QB - period. Can you say 5-7

The reason some are claiming UM will beat OSU is because you once again misconstrue when we say UM could do it and you go off about it being impossible.

If you don't think UM gets better by season's end when they play OSU then you've been living under a rock.

[Hawks]

Ok we all agree that 2010 will be a strong year for Michigan but what about UOS? Pryor in his junior year, a running back corp with a sophmore Berry, an offensive line chalk full of 5 stars and solid recievers on either side of the field. I wonder what kind of year 2010 will be for the B10. 2 solid and veteran teams both offensevily and defensively. Maybe another 1 vs. 2

All I know is Iowa has 8 returning defensive players this year, and should have 9 returning next year. Along with some returning and experience skill players on offense.

If we have 9 wins this year or more, don't be surprised to see us picked to win the Big Ten in 2010. But as always, you have to play the games because eveything always looks good on paper.

[Mike Furley]

All I know is Iowa has 8 returning defensive players this year, and should have 9 returning next year. Along with some returning and experience skill players on offense.

If we have 9 wins this year or more, don't be surprised to see us picked to win the Big Ten in 2010. But as always, you have to play the games because eveything always looks good on paper.


Save it, Hawks. Nobody on here gives a second thought to Iowa football. The only time Iowa is relevant in conference play is when they receive clemency from the schedule makers and don't have to face Ohio State. Even then you have to have a perfect storm of down years for Penn State, Michigan, and half the rest of the Big Ten to amount to anything.

Do us a favor and just try and not lose to lousy-ass Iowa State this year. That or stick with wrestling.

[Medic]

All I know is Iowa has 8 returning defensive players this year, and should have 9 returning next year. Along with some returning and experience skill players on offense.

If we have 9 wins this year or more, don't be surprised to see us picked to win the Big Ten in 2010. But as always, you have to play the games because everything always looks good on paper.

You have the schedule of death in conference this year.

@Penn State
@Wisconsin
@Michigan State
@Ohio State


OOC you have Arizona and they aren't slouches anymore after 8-5 last year and beating BYU to finish off the season. Good luck with that schedule.

[1OSUNUT]

2010 the Buckeyes will be picked by everybody to not only win the Big Ten but be NC contenders. They will return the whole team and McCoy, Bradford and Tebow will all be gone. I think 2010 will be the year for either Ohio State or USC.

Michigan will be (or should be) better by seasons end - if they are healthy. But so will Ohio State.

As for Iowa - don't make us laugh. You could return your whole team and still lose 5 games with your 2010 schedule.

[Bighouse]

Many of you have forgotten how well Ohio State recruited on the offensive line, skilled positions and defense the last two seasons. The kids that have come in had offers from USC, Florida, LSU.etc. The WR's are much bigger and faster, the linebackers are solid and the offensive line players were 5 star studs - many ranked #1 at their position. These kids have been waiting to show what they can do - now it's their turn. This year will be very solid - next year can be very special.
It doesn't matter!!!!!!! OSU will still lose their normal 1 to 2 games a year! It's been proven and will not change. Sad thing is this team will give you an early heart attack if you're not careful.....Don't waste your time thinking you are the best every year only to lose in a heart breaker. Please accept this card you have been deal with being a fan of the worst fan base, rude, gang ridden, white trash of a city you call home.

[amazinblue]

2010 the Buckeyes will be picked by everybody to not only win the Big Ten but be NC contenders. They will return the whole team and McCoy, Bradford and Tebow will all be gone. I think 2010 will be the year for either Ohio State or USC.

Nut,

Tell me, will the 2010 Buckeyes be a bigger or smaller favorite than the 2008 team to win the MNC.

[1OSUNUT]

BIGGER. The defense will be much better and the offense will be very seasoned with a junior TP. I think you will agree with me after you see the size and speed the new kids that are coming in have. The WR's will be dangerous and the RB's will be quicker. The offensive will be massive and TP - he will be one of the biggest weapons in college football. The whole defense will be back and it will be loaded with NFL caliber talent. I like this years team a lot - but I'm going to love next years team.

[Sten Carlson]

...but I'm going to love next years team.

Better get a couple of cases of AstroGlide Nut -- all that lovin' going to hurt without it!

[amazinblue]

BIGGER....but I'm going to love next years team.

Are you going to love next year's team - or are they going to love you?

Nut,

You crack me up - your posts are so full of facts. They'll be better - faster, bigger, jump higher - I'm wondering were they all recruited out of Smallville, Ohio? Is there only weakness Kryptonite?

Can you ONCE provide an objective view and support it with facts? For instance - something like this would be appreciated - the O line is juniors this season. All have seen game action the last two years, but - they are set in their positions - and should not only gel this year, but even be a stronger unit next year.

Try thinking.. you might actually come up with something...

[The Michigan Man]

Are you going to love next year's team - or are they going to love you?

Nut,

You crack me up - your posts are so full of facts. They'll be better - faster, bigger, jump higher - I'm wondering were they all recruited out of Smallville, Ohio? Is there only weakness Kryptonite?

Can you ONCE provide an objective view and support it with facts? For instance - something like this would be appreciated - the O line is juniors this season. All have seen game action the last two years, but - they are set in their positions - and should not only gel this year, but even be a stronger unit next year.

Try thinking.. you might actually come up with something...

Yeah, I hope that tUOS will get some more big gorillas like Boone and Boren who can get smoked by the SEC, USC, and coming soon, Michigan.

[Hawks]

Save it, Hawks. Nobody on here gives a second thought to Iowa football. The only time Iowa is relevant in conference play is when they receive clemency from the schedule makers and don't have to face Ohio State. Even then you have to have a perfect storm of down years for Penn State, Michigan, and half the rest of the Big Ten to amount to anything.

Do us a favor and just try and not lose to lousy-ass Iowa State this year. That or stick with wrestling.


You will care when we beat you this year.

[Hawks]

2010 the Buckeyes will be picked by everybody to not only win the Big Ten but be NC contenders. They will return the whole team and McCoy, Bradford and Tebow will all be gone. I think 2010 will be the year for either Ohio State or USC.

Michigan will be (or should be) better by seasons end - if they are healthy. But so will Ohio State.

As for Iowa - don't make us laugh. You could return your whole team and still lose 5 games with your 2010 schedule.

2010 schedule is great isn't it?

September
4 Eastern Illinois
11 Iowa State (Hy-Vee Cy-Hawk Series)
18 at Arizona
25 TBD
October
2 Penn State (HC)
9 Bye week
16 at Michigan
23 Wisconsin
30 Michigan State (FW)
November
6 at Indiana
13 at Northwestern
20 Ohio State (FA/S)
27 at Minnesota

The toughest road game will be Arizona. I will start worrying about Michigan on the road when they start winning more than 6 games.

[amazinblue]

The toughest road game will be Arizona. I will start worrying about Michigan on the road when they start winning more than 6 games.

Hawks,

You can start worrying about us this year...

[1OSUNUT]

Iowa will lose 5 games next season (min) and maybe more this year. Do you guys even have a running back ? Everything has been pretty hush on this years starter - even Kirk is not talking.

[bighousemike84]

Iowa will lose 5 games next season (min) and maybe more this year. Do you guys even have a running back ? Everything has been pretty hush on this years starter - even Kirk is not talking.

Wow nut I thought you just had an inferiority complex about Michigan. Now I realize you just feel inferior all the time about everything and your only way to feel better about it is to randomly shit out posts bashing a school that have no actual facts or evidence to support your claims. Sorry to hear that man, I hope you get some help

[1OSUNUT]

Maybe you should follow the Big Ten closer. The replacement running back for Greene has a major injury. Nobody seems to be talking about how minor or major it might be. Without the running back returning with the most experience and yardage - Iowa has problems. I just want to know who Hawks thinks will run the ball this year.

[byebyelloyd]

Are you going to love next year's team - or are they going to love you?

Nut,

You crack me up - your posts are so full of facts. They'll be better - faster, bigger, jump higher - I'm wondering were they all recruited out of Smallville, Ohio? Is there only weakness Kryptonite?

Can you ONCE provide an objective view and support it with facts? For instance - something like this would be appreciated - the O line is juniors this season. All have seen game action the last two years, but - they are set in their positions - and should not only gel this year, but even be a stronger unit next year.

Try thinking.. you might actually come up with something...

thats a great pick, ohio states o-line is a fucking joke. michigans line played as well as they did last year with no experience while they were all seniors. "they're going to be great, the best. they all run 3.6 40's, can bench 3 tons, can easily block 4 DT's apiece. a battalion of m1a2 tanks can't stop them, hell a 500 megaton nuke couldn't phase them."-1nutsackpussy.

[Wolvrin704]

I would like to know ow OSU will improve this year on their 104th ranked passing game from 2008. Thats only 4 spots higher than UM.

[Hawks]

Maybe you should follow the Big Ten closer. The replacement running back for Greene has a major injury. Nobody seems to be talking about how minor or major it might be. Without the running back returning with the most experience and yardage - Iowa has problems. I just want to know who Hawks thinks will run the ball this year.

Hampton is fine, we have a backup to him that is great too. Plus we will have a line that will makes holes that I could run through. Lose 5 games this year, and next year? Maybe a combined 5 games for the next two years.

I don't think you understand how great are defense will be this year and the next.

Honestley, We will win or die with Stanzi. He will be the difference. And after last years mistakes, I'm not too confident for road games right now.

I predict a Capital One bowl or Outback Bowl for us this year. Maybe a 9-3 record. Then next year I think we will go 11-1 or 10-2. Depends how good Arizona will be.

[1OSUNUT]

I like your excitement about your team - I can appreciate that. However Iowa will be trying to compete with not only a very good Buckeye team, but Penn State, Arizona and others next year. Untill Iowa can beat the big boys in the conference and win on the road - expect failure. Every time you have a big prime time game at Kinnick - you lose.

[Hawks]

Maybe you should follow the Big Ten closer. The replacement running back for Greene has a major injury. Nobody seems to be talking about how minor or major it might be. Without the running back returning with the most experience and yardage - Iowa has problems. I just want to know who Hawks thinks will run the ball this year.

You should also maybe follow the Big Ten closer. Greene was good, but I think Greene had a few big holes to run through and the defense had to tackle him with defensive back. Which Greene loved.

Hampton set the rushing record for a Freshman, but I don't think he is the best Freshman back we have had. Just easy to run through holes.

Briston will be second string, but will probably see a lot of carries, many say he is a Shonn Greene type runner. Honestly, I don't know until he plays.

[Hawks]

I like your excitement about your team - I can appreciate that. However Iowa will be trying to compete with not only a very good Buckeye team, but Penn State, Arizona and others next year. Untill Iowa can beat the big boys in the conference and win on the road - expect failure. Every time you have a big prime time game at Kinnick - you lose.


Huh? Beating a 9-0, ranked number 3, in Kinnick, and in Prime Time last year didn't count? Don't forget, are 4 losses last year was by a combined 12 points, or something like that.

Oh ya, we won a bowl game last year, not very common in the Big Ten lately.

[Wolvrin704]

Huh? Beating a 9-0, ranked number 3, in Kinnick, and in Prime Time last year didn't count? Don't forget, are 4 losses last year was by a combined 12 points, or something like that.

Oh ya, we won a bowl game last year, not very common in the Big Ten lately.

Yeah that comment left me scratching my head as well since your guys beat a team that had beaten OSU in their stadium. Maybe he should watch a little more B10 football not involving the Buckeyes.

[Silver Bullet]

I would like to know ow OSU will improve this year on their 104th ranked passing game from 2008. Thats only 4 spots higher than UM.

Really? Maybe having a sophmore QB that went through a whole camp will help. It seems pretty obvious to me that Pryor's numbers would pick up a little bit being that he's a year older. Don't people generally get better the more they play?

My guess is that the offense this year will be more tailored to Pryor's strengths (whatever they may be) whereas last year he was thrown into an offense that was built for Boeckman. I'm hoping to see OSU utilize their TE's and the speed in their backfield. I'm excited about the offense this year really. Especially RS Freshman Jake Stoneburner. He's a TE/WR guy that is going to create a lot of mismatches....I just hope Tressel/Bollman can figure out a way to take advantage of him.

[Wolvrin704]

Really? Maybe having a sophmore QB that went through a whole camp will help. It seems pretty obvious to me that Pryor's numbers would pick up a little bit being that he's a year older. Don't people generally get better the more they play?

My guess is that the offense this year will be more tailored to Pryor's strengths (whatever they may be) whereas last year he was thrown into an offense that was built for Boeckman. I'm hoping to see OSU utilize their TE's and the speed in their backfield. I'm excited about the offense this year really. Especially RS Freshman Jake Stoneburner. He's a TE/WR guy that is going to create a lot of mismatches....I just hope Tressel/Bollman can figure out a way to take advantage of him.

Its a legitimate question, after all many of the trolls on here seem to think that UM will be the same this year as last so its a 2 way street.

Essentially the question is legitimate because you have lost your 2 top WR's, yes you have talented guys coming up but they're unproven. TP should improve but how much remains to be seen. Stoneburner is a legitimate talent though, I've heard about him.
Last year OSU had an All Big Ten QB, veteran WR's and the most heralded QB prospect to come out in at least recent OSU fan history. So to have ended up with a 104th ranking in passing just seems questionable to some degree. UM struggled much of the year in passing and is only 4 spots lower which is why I brought it up.

[Silver Bullet]

Its a legitimate question, after all many of the trolls on here seem to think that UM will be the same this year as last so its a 2 way street.

Essentially the question is legitimate because you have lost your 2 top WR's, yes you have talented guys coming up but they're unproven. TP should improve but how much remains to be seen. Stoneburner is a legitimate talent though, I've heard about him.
Last year OSU had an All Big Ten QB, veteran WR's and the most heralded QB prospect to come out in at least recent OSU fan history. So to have ended up with a 104th ranking in passing just seems questionable to some degree. UM struggled much of the year in passing and is only 4 spots lower which is why I brought it up.

You sound like an OSU fan there! OSU's receivers were dogshit last year. That played a part in Pryor's struggles. Robiskie has been overrated his whole career because of his dad. I was so happy to be rid of him and then the Browns draft his sorry ass. I'm sorry, the guy was slow, fragile and wasn't sure-handed at all. I think that OSU's offense is going to thrive this year due to addition by subtraction.

From what I've pieced together, the whole senior class last year (including Hartline who was a junior) acted like a bunch of skin-kneed bitches when Pryor was given the starting job. I'm not really upset to see any of them go except maybe for Jenkins.

I'm very optimistic this year. This offense has the talent. The could still blow for sure, but the silver lining in that would be that Tressel would be forced to make staff/assignment changes and that is something that needs to happen sooner rather than later.

[1OSUNUT]

I agree 100% with the addition by subtraction statement. I do however like Robiskie as a pro. I live in Cleveland and think he will do fine - if anybody can throw to him. He was said to of run the best routs of any WR at the combine. I totally agree with the effort put forth by many of the so called leaders last year after TP was named the starter. It started with Alex Boone and migrated to Hartline. It did seem at times that they were just going through the motions.

I don't think people totally realize how much pressure was on TP last year to perform well. He was way hyped and then without many reps was thrown into the fire. Sure he looked confused at time and held the ball to long. He played careful. He was trying so hard to be perfect and not hurt the team that he look like he could not throw. That just is not true. Many of the former players have said that TP did throw much better in practice then he did in games. He threw just fine in high school - because if he didn't then RR and Jt would not of chased him all over PA. He played well because the game was slower and he was comfortable and confident. He will be much more comfortable and confident this year. He is working on his mechanics and he is going to get all the reps. I expect a much more polished TP this year to go along with players that were brought in with him that want to play with him.

The WR's are going to be a strong point on this team. They have size and more speed then we have maybe ever had in Columbus. I really like Thomas. I think he can really be special. I also like Sanzenbacher, Stoneburner, Posey and Small. This is the year that Small could really do some damage if he can stay out of the doghouse. He will line up in the slot and create some mis-matches. The wildcard is going to be Carter. Like his father he runs great routes and has excellent hands. It will be impossible to keep him off the field. I expect him to become a TP favorite very quickly. Also look for a healthy Brandon Saine to be catching balls out of the backfield. He was a 100m State Champ in Ohio who has been hampered by nagging injuries. He is said to looking great and came to camp 20lbs lighter. This is the most excited I have been in years about our offense. I agree that if they do not open things up and use the weapons that a change should be made with the OC. We need somebody like a Norm Chow to really change things up and play to our strengths.

[byebyelloyd]

I agree 100% with the addition by subtraction statement. I do however like Robiskie as a pro. I live in Cleveland and think he will do fine - if anybody can throw to him. He was said to of run the best routs of any WR at the combine. I totally agree with the effort put forth by many of the so called leaders last year after TP was named the starter. It started with Alex Boone and migrated to Hartline. It did seem at times that they were just going through the motions.

I don't think people totally realize how much pressure was on TP last year to perform well. He was way hyped and then without many reps was thrown into the fire. Sure he looked confused at time and held the ball to long. He played careful. He was trying so hard to be perfect and not hurt the team that he look like he could not throw. That just is not true. Many of the former players have said that TP did throw much better in practice then he did in games. He threw just fine in high school - because if he didn't then RR and Jt would not of chased him all over PA. He played well because the game was slower and he was comfortable and confident. He will be much more comfortable and confident this year. He is working on his mechanics and he is going to get all the reps. I expect a much more polished TP this year to go along with players that were brought in with him that want to play with him.

The WR's are going to be a strong point on this team. They have size and more speed then we have maybe ever had in Columbus. I really like Thomas. I think he can really be special. I also like Sanzenbacher, Stoneburner, Posey and Small. This is the year that Small could really do some damage if he can stay out of the doghouse. He will line up in the slot and create some mis-matches. The wildcard is going to be Carter. Like his father he runs great routes and has excellent hands. It will be impossible to keep him off the field. I expect him to become a TP favorite very quickly. Also look for a healthy Brandon Saine to be catching balls out of the backfield. He was a 100m State Champ in Ohio who has been hampered by nagging injuries. He is said to looking great and came to camp 20lbs lighter. This is the most excited I have been in years about our offense. I agree that if they do not open things up and use the weapons that a change should be made with the OC. We need somebody like a Norm Chow to really change things up and play to our strengths.

yeah, great observation pussy, the WRs are going to be really great with a QB who can't hit a aircraft carrier from 10 yards. they'll be very lucky to combine for a 1000 yard season.

[gator]

This is the most excited I have been in years about our offense.

Really?? Even the 2006 team which was just a few years back? Interesting! We're talking about a team that had two first round draft picks at WR (Ginn and Gonzalez), a Heisman winner at QB, and another first round draft pick at RB (Wells). You are more excited about this year than 2006? OSU is either going to be freaking amazing, to the point that I would quiver if I thought about playing them, or you are seriously misjudging this situation.

[amazinblue]

Especially RS Freshman Jake Stoneburner. He's a TE/WR guy that is going to create a lot of mismatches....I just hope Tressel/Bollman can figure out a way to take advantage of him.

I'm very optimistic this year. This offense has the talent. The could still blow for sure, but the silver lining in that would be that Tressel would be forced to make staff/assignment changes and that is something that needs to happen sooner rather than later.


SB,

I think this can be said of coaching with talented prospects / recruits. I've posted before Bollman and Heacock better find a way to do some things - some new things, and do them successfully.

Apparently, NUT thinks they are all fantastic. I'm curious what an intelligent Buckeye thinks of them.

[GoBlue21]

with a QB who can't hit a aircraft carrier from 10 yards.

Thats great! :D


Really?? Even the 2006 team which was just a few years back? Interesting! We're talking about a team that had two first round draft picks at WR (Ginn and Gonzalez), a Heisman winner at QB, and another first round draft pick at RB (Wells). You are more excited about this year than 2006? OSU is either going to be freaking amazing, to the point that I would quiver if I thought about playing them, or you are seriously misjudging this situation.

Exactly! Excuse him, he has a short memory!

[1OSUNUT]

This offense has the potential to be more explosive then the 2006 unit. Will they be that explosive this season - maybe not. But as they gel I really like the dimension that TP adds when combined with the RB's and WR's we have. We finally have some USC type WR's that can go up and get a ball and that can fly once they catch it. We should have multiple playmakers on the field at one time. In the past we have had a stud playmaker like Ginn on one side and a possession guy on the other side. That is not real hard to defend against. This year we will have TP who will be ultra dangerous as well as Saine, Herron and Berry sharing the running duties. I expect the ball to be spread out amoung a lot more players this year. What I really like is that the kids are young and have several years to gel and play together. That is where the excitement comes from.

[amazinblue]

This offense has the potential to be more explosive then the 2006 unit. .... We finally have some USC type WR's that can go up and get a ball and that can fly once they catch it. ....

Nut,

My children's first grade soccer team has the potential to be World Cup Champions, too! Who are these "USC type WR's" you're talking about? When have they seen action on the field - in a game?

I'll be honest - it's so much easier to read SB's commnets. The only difference between you and ND fans is this - your colors. Every fall the team's going to be 12-0, undefeated, with another Heisman trophy winner. oops. forgot - TP's not getting the first of his Heisman's until next year - well, maybe this year if the rest of the country realizes he was the No. 1 pick last year, has jets like few other QB's - oops, and hasn't proven his arm yet.

[GoBlue21]

This offense has the potential to be more explosive then the 2006 unit. Will they be that explosive this season - maybe not. But as they gel I really like the dimension that TP adds when combined with the RB's and WR's we have. We finally have some USC type WR's that can go up and get a ball and that can fly once they catch it. We should have multiple playmakers on the field at one time. In the past we have had a stud playmaker like Ginn on one side and a possession guy on the other side. That is not real hard to defend against. This year we will have TP who will be ultra dangerous as well as Saine, Herron and Berry sharing the running duties. I expect the ball to be spread out amoung a lot more players this year. What I really like is that the kids are young and have several years to gel and play together. That is where the excitement comes from.

TAKE THE BUCKEYE GOGGLES OFF! Troy Smith was LIGHT YEARS ahead of TP in the passing game in 2006! TP has to get it to these 'USC type WR's' somehow. To say they have the 'potential' to be better is ridiculous! The Buckeyes have TOO MANY unknowns to even think that! TP is only dangerous with his feet, NOBODY is scared of his arm TRUST ME! None of those backs have proven ANYTHING yet, it was Beanie Wells for 3 years and that was it! The line is suspect at best, like i said, too many unknowns!

Like amazin said, "Every fall the team's going to be 12-0, undefeated, with another Heisman trophy winner." Get off your high-horse, NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE BUCKEYES!!!

[Wolvrin704]

This offense has the potential to be more explosive then the 2006 unit. Will they be that explosive this season - maybe not. But as they gel I really like the dimension that TP adds when combined with the RB's and WR's we have. We finally have some USC type WR's that can go up and get a ball and that can fly once they catch it. We should have multiple playmakers on the field at one time. In the past we have had a stud playmaker like Ginn on one side and a possession guy on the other side. That is not real hard to defend against. This year we will have TP who will be ultra dangerous as well as Saine, Herron and Berry sharing the running duties. I expect the ball to be spread out amoung a lot more players this year. What I really like is that the kids are young and have several years to gel and play together. That is where the excitement comes from.

Its great that you're excited about the potential there because I agree that it truly exists. But in the same vein we see the same potential at UM and yet you crap on us about it at every opportunity. Its funny how you expect us to realize that TP and OSU will improve but you turn around and say UM will never get better.
Thats why you get the responses you do. When everyone finally decides they want to actually talk about football instead of having to constantly defend their programs then maybe we can have some real discussions going on in here.

[gator]

Its great that you're excited about the potential there because I agree that it truly exists. But in the same vein we see the same potential at UM and yet you crap on us about it at every opportunity. Its funny how you expect us to realize that TP and OSU will improve but you turn around and say UM will never get better.
Thats why you get the responses you do. When everyone finally decides they want to actually talk about football instead of having to constantly defend their programs then maybe we can have some real discussions going on in here.

OK, I want to try this real discussion thing out. I think this year could be the best FL team ever...really. I've heard that Tebow has really been working on his flying and can now cover at least 20 yrds at a time without touching ground. Further, I've also been hearing that offensive drives will now be a thing of the past. We really should be able to score on the first play of what was formerly know as drives because Tebow can throw it 120 yrds if necessary, and DBs are still standing still by the time our receivers are 20 yrds down the field. Jeff Demps has gotten even faster. In the first 7 on 7 drills this morning, I heard that the field he ran over actually caught fire. On Defense, what do i have to say? I mean the same two-deep roster from the NC team is back. The only improvements I've been hearing about are that we no longer need 11 players on the field at the same time. Carlos Dunlap, Omar Hunter, Brandon Spikes, Janoris Jenkins, and Major Wright have been working on a new defensive scheme that "prevents" their other teammates from getting in their way. Cost-ratio-to-defensive-projection analysis are estimating that we will give up 3.3 completions this season and a total of 26 rushing yards.

Edit: Toss it back to you, Jim, what's the word in AA?

[Wolvrin704]

Good one Gator, that really cracked me up.

[1OSUNUT]

Its great that you're excited about the potential there because I agree that it truly exists. But in the same vein we see the same potential at UM and yet you crap on us about it at every opportunity. Its funny how you expect us to realize that TP and OSU will improve but you turn around and say UM will never get better.
Thats why you get the responses you do. When everyone finally decides they want to actually talk about football instead of having to constantly defend their programs then maybe we can have some real discussions going on in here.


Michigan will get better - that's a given. Programs like that will always rebound. The big question is will it rebound with or without RR. Many think Michigan will reach new heights - while others are not so sure. I just happen to be one of the ones that thinks he won't be as sucessful as he needs to be at that school. Michigan and Ohio State always get very good players. Even when we have bad seasons (for the most part) we are much better then a lot of D1 teams and most of the Big Ten. I expected Michigan to struggle last year - but not like they did. If I was shocked I could only imagine how Michigan fans felt week in and week out.

I'm sure the games will go back to being all out brawls in the future. I expect the games to be much closer - because that is what you expect in a rivalry like this. Do I think Ohio State is going to blow out Michigan like they did last year every year - hell no. Do I think once RR gets his players and system in place that he will just walk all over Ohio State - hell no. I expect games in the future that will restore the game to what it should be - for all the marbles. I just don't know if it will be with or without RR - that is my choice. This year will go a long way in dictating what direction Michigan is heading.

I do think that Michigan will have it's hands full with Ohio State for the next 3 years - for sure. Sometimes when kids are recruited their names are put on the backburner because the attention tends to be on the newest recruits, the starters or kids that are interested in coming to the program in the future. I'm just here to say that Ohio State has done very very well in the last three years recruiting. We do have some special kids that like always have the potential to be great. I do find it hard to get over how many people think that Pryor will never be able to throw. I think that they will be in shock when they see how much he has improved. He is going into this year as the true leader, he got his feet wet last year, the game has slowed down and most importantly - he is getting a lot of reps. The kids that have been brought in with him are very special and have more abilities then kids that have excelled at Ohio State. That is why I'm excited because these kids on paper are better then what we have had - but games are not played on paper. I understand that but it's pretty easy to see if you follow recruiting that Ohio State is pretty solid across the board.

Michigan has got to be better this year - could a program like that actually be worse or play that bad two years in a row ? I doubt it. I do think that starting a true freshman will lead to mistakes and losses. TP played very good last year and still cost us a HUGE game last year. Nothing in practice can duplicate the game day experience at a school like Michigan or Ohio State. The pressure the suceed is extremly high and with that pressure comes caution. You may not think so but Tate will not look as polished in games as he did in practice. The stakes are a lot higher once you start keeping score. I know many of you are expecting big things from Michigan in RR's second season - you should that's your team. I actually would think less of you if you were not excited. The truth is that Michigan has bigger question marks then Ohio State does. Questions like will the defense be able to get off the field, will the offensive line gel, will Tate struggle, will they eliminate the mistakes, will tackling improve and most importantly - how will they handle a early season loss.

Do I think Michigan has an above average chance of losing the opener - yes. If they lose a game or two early will they stay the course and keep buying in ? That is a fair question. Many seasons that have looked to carry a lot of promised have fallen apart with an early upset. I expect Michigan to be better this season - how can they not be, but I also expect Ohio State to be not only improved but very solid.

[Wolvrin704]

Michigan will get better - that's a given. Programs like that will always rebound. The big question is will it rebound with or without RR. Many think Michigan will reach new heights - while others are not so sure. I just happen to be one of the ones that thinks he won't be as sucessful as he needs to be at that school. Michigan and Ohio State always get very good players. Even when we have bad seasons (for the most part) we are much better then a lot of D1 teams and most of the Big Ten. I expected Michigan to struggle last year - but not like they did. If I was shocked I could only imagine how Michigan fans felt week in and week out.

I'm glad you tink UM will get better. How you think UM cannot attain it with RR is beyond me. His track record shows that his first year teams always struggle the first year but even more so last year because of how depleted the roster had gotten. Instead of 2 or 3 deep at every position we were 1 deep or using someone who didn't fit the position. Stevie Brown for instance was a safety last year but really is a hybrid LB. The main issue is that the success of RR's system is based on QB play. We saw that last year and we saw that with WVU when White went out in the Pitt game.



I'm sure the games will go back to being all out brawls in the future. I expect the games to be much closer - because that is what you expect in a rivalry like this. Do I think Ohio State is going to blow out Michigan like they did last year every year - hell no. Do I think once RR gets his players and system in place that he will just walk all over Ohio State - hell no. I expect games in the future that will restore the game to what it should be - for all the marbles. I just don't know if it will be with or without RR - that is my choice. This year will go a long way in dictating what direction Michigan is heading.

Based on how OSU has done against spread type teams I do think UM will regain some of the luster but OSU is also recruiting D players to counteract that. I do expect some balance to be attained in the next few years in the rilvary with neither team really having an upper hand, it could very well get down to home field advantage.



I do think that Michigan will have it's hands full with Ohio State for the next 3 years - for sure. Sometimes when kids are recruited their names are put on the backburner because the attention tends to be on the newest recruits, the starters or kids that are interested in coming to the program in the future. I'm just here to say that Ohio State has done very very well in the last three years recruiting. We do have some special kids that like always have the potential to be great. I do find it hard to get over how many people think that Pryor will never be able to throw. I think that they will be in shock when they see how much he has improved. He is going into this year as the true leader, he got his feet wet last year, the game has slowed down and most importantly - he is getting a lot of reps. The kids that have been brought in with him are very special and have more abilities then kids that have excelled at Ohio State. That is why I'm excited because these kids on paper are better then what we have had - but games are not played on paper. I understand that but it's pretty easy to see if you follow recruiting that Ohio State is pretty solid across the board.


I agree that UM will have their hands full for the next few years with OSU and TP, especially if he gains the ability to pass well. UM has also been recruiting well but we still have a few holes and are not deep in a couple of areas. But looking at what we've been getting; speed, speed and more speed I feel we'll be more than a match for OSU within 2 years.



Michigan has got to be better this year - could a program like that actually be worse or play that bad two years in a row ? I doubt it. I do think that starting a true freshman will lead to mistakes and losses. TP played very good last year and still cost us a HUGE game last year. Nothing in practice can duplicate the game day experience at a school like Michigan or Ohio State. The pressure the suceed is extremly high and with that pressure comes caution. You may not think so but Tate will not look as polished in games as he did in practice. The stakes are a lot higher once you start keeping score. I know many of you are expecting big things from Michigan in RR's second season - you should that's your team. I actually would think less of you if you were not excited. The truth is that Michigan has bigger question marks then Ohio State does. Questions like will the defense be able to get off the field, will the offensive line gel, will Tate struggle, will they eliminate the mistakes, will tackling improve and most importantly - how will they handle a early season loss.

Again I agree that UM has to get better this year and they will. RR's track record shows that his teams usually improve dramatically between year 1 and 2, and win the conference title by year 3 or 4. I do expect Tate to struggle because he is a freshman. But unlike last year he does have the wheels and he has a very good and accurate arm. He excels at the short and midrange passes that RR's system is designed for. BUT.....he will struggle. I just don't think his struggles will be nearly as bad as what we witnessed last year as his abilities for this system are much better than Threet and Sheridan had.



Do I think Michigan has an above average chance of losing the opener - yes. If they lose a game or two early will they stay the course and keep buying in ? That is a fair question. Many seasons that have looked to carry a lot of promised have fallen apart with an early upset. I expect Michigan to be better this season - how can they not be, but I also expect Ohio State to be not only improved but very solid.

Could UM lose the opener? Absolutely. But Western also lost most of their defense so I see a game that will showcase allot of mistakes by both sides and I think UM has the athletes to take better advantage of those mistakes. I really doubt that UM will be a favorite in many games this year so losing to anyone won't be considered an upset. OSU will be solid but they do have allot of inexperience and a few holes themselves. The only team out there this year that I consider to have no holes is Florida.

[Mich97c]

Is everybody happy now?

[1OSUNUT]

704 -

I agree. Well done. I also second that Florida seems to have the best team. The question is can they run the table with that schedule. They are the best team - but will they play for the big prize again ? That is why college football is so much better then any other sport.

[Buzz]

I think the program will struggle a bit this coming year. For starters, Tate is an inexperienced QB, but I hear he's handling most everything he can control and/or what has been thrown at him thus far very well...but with that said there's no way he can simulate his way to perfection. Another problem I see for my Wolverines right now is the lack of depth or no proven operators in the 2nd and 3rd slots. When some of the starters start to get banged up, how will the backups fair? To answer that question, we'll have to watch and see.

If Michigan is a well prepared and cohesive team in 2009, then they will collectively find the proper mix of players, plays, and the overall solution. If and when they start making mistakes, and those mistakes begin to snowball...(like last year) then 2009 unfortunately will equal death.

RichRod I don't think did very well last year in the area of time management, if he can improve on that this year, it can increase Michigan's chances of winning...from game to game. As far as the offense goes, a 60/40 pass to run ratio would make that unit look unstopable, at times...if the majority of the runs are made by running backs, cause I don't think Tate is ready for the read option, but I do think Tate can be a big time scrambler.

The defense under Carr got schooled, and tricked way too often. If they can become more aware, and basically just play smarter....everybody's still waiting on 'em to tackle somebody, then this will make them a solid unit.


Do I think Michigan has an above average chance of losing the opener - yes. If they lose a game or two early will they stay the course and keep buying in ? That is a fair question. Many seasons that have looked to carry a lot of promised have fallen apart with an early upset. I expect Michigan to be better this season - how can they not be, but I also expect Ohio State to be not only improved but very solid.

On the part about Michigan, I absolutely agree with you. This is the first season (not counting last season) since I've been watching Michigan football...where the chances of them losing are good, it's the biggest game of the season, until the next week then that will be the biggest game of the season. I'm predicting a 7-5 season.

[Buzz]

Could UM lose the opener? Absolutely. But Western also lost most of their defense so I see a game that will showcase allot of mistakes by both sides and I think UM has the athletes to take better advantage of those mistakes. I really doubt that UM will be a favorite in many games this year so losing to anyone won't be considered an upset. OSU will be solid but they do have allot of inexperience and a few holes themselves. The only team out there this year that I consider to have no holes is Florida.

Florida is a very good team, but they definitely have holes. I see them not having a backup QB. What kind of team would they have if Tebow can't go? Where's the rb? Tebow's the full back...but they don't really have a full time threat at running back.

[tpilews]

I think the program will struggle a bit this coming year. For starters, Tate is an inexperienced QB, but I hear he's handling most everything he can control and/or what has been thrown at him thus far very well...but with that said there's no way he can simulate his way to perfection. Another problem I see for my Wolverines right now is the lack of depth or no proven operators in the 2nd and 3rd slots. When some of the starters start to get banged up, how will the backups fair? To answer that question, we'll have to watch and see.

If Michigan is a well prepared and cohesive team in 2009, then they will collectively find the proper mix of players, plays, and the overall solution. If and when they start making mistakes, and those mistakes begin to snowball...(like last year) then 2009 unfortunately will equal death.

RichRod I don't think did very well last year in the area of time management, if he can improve on that this year, it can increase Michigan's chances of winning...from game to game. As far as the offense goes, a 60/40 pass to run ratio would make that unit look unstopable, at times...if the majority of the runs are made by running backs, cause I don't think Tate is ready for the read option, but I do think Tate can be a big time scrambler.

The defense under Carr got schooled, and tricked way too often. If they can become more aware, and basically just play smarter....everybody's still waiting on 'em to tackle somebody, then this will make them a solid unit.



On the part about Michigan, I absolutely agree with you. This is the first season (not counting last season) since I've been watching Michigan football...where the chances of them losing are good, it's the biggest game of the season, until the next week then that will be the biggest game of the season. I'm predicting a 7-5 season.

I'll say 8-4, but I think 9 wins is attainable. I don't think there is really a team on their schedule that they cannot beat. Especially with the home schedule they have this year (PSU, osu, and ND all at home). There are some serious issues with CB depth right now if Turner and Witty aren't cleared to play. Even with them, depth is a concern. I think this defense will be serviceable, but will benefit from the offense being much improved. We all saw last year what happens when the QB actually hit his open receivers, or made proper reads on runs; the offense moved the ball and looked great. If Tate can even live up to half of the hype, this offense will be good. There are certainly weapons available to Tate, that were not last year to Three/Sheridan. Stokes, Roundtree, Hemingway, Gallon, T. Robinson. And with a healthy Minor, Brown, and Shaw, the stable of backs could be the best in the Big Ten, and will certainly help take some pressure off of a young TF.

[bighousemike84]

Go ahead and quote me on this and anyone who wants to bet me on it just let me know. I GAURANTEE that Michigan will win the opener against Western Michigan. I am absolutely certain that they will not lose and I dont care about anyones arguments otherwise. If you listen to some of the quotes coming from guys like Ortmann, Brown and Mesko, this team is really that A team! These guys have taken the 3-9 season and all the criticism and they have turned it into a determination to prove what they are capable of. For the first time in almost 5 years Michigan will come out week 1 fully prepared and ready for anything. Again I say it Michigan is gauranteed to beat Western on September 5th. I just wish I could be there to watch it!

[tpilews]

I just wish I could be there to watch it!

There are plenty of ways to find tickets. There some guy on mgoblog that is selling something like 8 tickets for each game.

This is the one game I'll be at in 2009. Already have my flight booked, and the tickets are on there way to me as I type this. I'm excited as hell to return to the Big House.

[gator]

Florida is a very good team, but they definitely have holes. I see them not having a backup QB. What kind of team would they have if Tebow can't go? Where's the rb? Tebow's the full back...but they don't really have a full time threat at running back.

F.Y.I. Tebow's backup, John Brantley, is VERY capable. He's looked really good in the game time he has seen. He has a cannon for an arm and very accurate at that. Further, Florida isn't going to need a lot of points this year to win almost any game. If Tebow goes down, the Gators are still in really good shape. Now, if Tebow and Brantley go down, then FL has some SERIOUS issues. You might see running backs taking direct snaps for an entire game.

[Silver Bullet]

Isn't any team in trouble if their starting QB goes down? Tebow is a monster anyway, I don't see him getting hurt. He doles out more punishment then he receives.

[Check]

Not trying to hate on the Gators, I live down here in FL, but the schedule is not that difficult. The big issue with the schedule is they have no bye week after 3 October. Mississippi State could be a trap game, it is away and between Arkansas and Georgia. LSU is the game that everyone is pointing to as the big hurdle. I do not think Urban gets beat coming off a bye week. MSU and the SEC title game are the two stumbling blocks. 'Bama is going to be tough this year if they have any type of passing game.

[bighousemike84]

There are plenty of ways to find tickets. There some guy on mgoblog that is selling something like 8 tickets for each game.

This is the one game I'll be at in 2009. Already have my flight booked, and the tickets are on there way to me as I type this. I'm excited as hell to return to the Big House.

Its not that I cant get tickets. I have a Jr. High football game to officiate that day. My first game as an official and it was an opportunity I couldnt turn down. Ill at least get to watch the game though. I already have my tickets for the ND game and im just counting down the days!

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Im in the same boat. My son (11) played his games on Sunday last year - this year he plays on Saturdays. I already passed on Navy and USC tickets. I passed on USC tickets because I refuse to pay $300 per. I do however have club seats for the Toledo game at Cleveland Stadium.

I agree with SB - 90% or more of the teams in the country would be screwed or have a large drop off if the starter gets injured. It's not that the back-ups are not any good - it's that they just don't get the reps or game experience.

[Bossgobbler23]

Im in the same boat. My son (11) played his games on Sunday last year - this year he plays on Saturdays. I already passed on Navy and USC tickets. I passed on USC tickets because I refuse to pay $300 per. I do however have club seats for the Toledo game at Cleveland Stadium.

I agree with SB - 90% or more of the teams in the country would be screwed or have a large drop off if the starter gets injured. It's not that the back-ups are not any good - it's that they just don't get the reps or game experience.

Yes you hit it on the head with a starting QB. But I think what Buzz was also eluding to is the fact that Tebow was Florida's leading rusher either last year or the year before (I forget) and if he goes down, so does the running game, then they lose most of their offense.

[Buzz]

Yes you hit it on the head with a starting QB. But I think what Buzz was also eluding to is the fact that Tebow was Florida's leading rusher either last year or the year before (I forget) and if he goes down, so does the running game, then they lose most of their offense.

For sure most teams would lose a step by playing without their respective starting QB. But I was pointing out that Tebow does a ton for Florida, to kind of echo what Boss said he was the leading rusher the last two seasons there, he also accounted for over 50 tds one year. More importantly, IMO he makes them an unorthodox team. The backup they have is probably good, but at this point he's not fully functional, with a couple of games he could get that way.

The thing is, if you lose a Tebow, turn around and replace him with the second stringer, which is a drop back pocket guy...then you lose alot of the dynamics Florida has grown accustomed to, and Florida will become more of a orthodox team. This would also be a great time for the Gators to find a running back.

For the record, I just want to add that this is not an attack on the Gators, or anything similar....just football talk.

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When Florida is inside the 10 or needs 5 yards or so for a first down - you know who is getting the ball. Tebow is the heart and soul of the Gators. I totally agree that losing him would make Florida a much different team. Tebow just has a way of making a play. He has that jump pass that he does and he runs like a fullback. Could Tebow sit in the pocket and beat you with his arm - not sure. I have never seen Florida behind enough to see what would happen. The kid has that IT factor - he is a winner. I don't care what you think of Florida Tim Tebow is one of the most respectful players I have ever seen. I saw a special on him and the work he does based on his faith is nothing short of remarkable. While most players in his shoes would be out flashing the bling looking for hoes - he is building houses, talking to inmates and going on missions.

That shows a lot about the young mans character. Could you imagine the tail you could get being Tim Tebow in Florida - it would be insane. yet you don't hear a thing about him unless it's good. The speech he made after the loss to Ole Miss last year almost gives you goosebumps. I would hate to see somebody unseat Archie as the only 2 time Heisman winner - but if it has to be somebody I hope it's Tebow. He is everything that is good about college athletics. Like him or not the kid is awesome and his parents have him on the path to be sucessful be it the NFL or something else.

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Yes you hit it on the head with a starting QB. But I think what Buzz was also eluding to is the fact that Tebow was Florida's leading rusher either last year or the year before (I forget) and if he goes down, so does the running game, then they lose most of their offense.

A lot of good points were made by everyone here. Don't get me wrong, I don't want anything to happen to Tebow - he's the heart and soul of the team. As far as Boss's point, it sure does seem like the the rushing game would fall apart without Tebow, but it just isn't true. Last year the leading rushers were Tebow, Harvin, Rainey, Demps, and Moody with 673, 660, 652, 605, and 417 yrds, respectively. During the NC game last year, I remember the commentator making the comment that FL was the only team in the country with 4 guys with over 500 yrds rushing. I know that play calling would have to look different, and I'm not saying we would be as explosive. However, FL has a lot of guys to tote the rock and Tebows backup is one hell of a passer. With the defense we're packing this year, I think we could survive, but I don't care to find out. If Tebow does get hurt, I hope it is just after the LSU game so Brantley has time to adjust before facing good teams in games of serious importance.

Someone made the comment about FL's schedule not being that tough this year; I also agree with that. I mean, it is still not a "weak" schedule (Tennessee, Georgia, FSU, LSU, Arkansas, and possibly SEC and NC championship games), but it is certainly weaker than any schedule FL has played in the last decade (primarily due to some of those teams falling on hard times).