Devin Gardner - 4th Ranked QB

[tpilews]

Yep, Devin just picked up his 5th star from Scout. Rivals should be following suit soon, I'd think.

Scout Profile (http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=8&c=1&nid=3717412)

QB Ranking (http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=4&pid=10&yr=2010)

[Frank Rizzo]

Wont be long and he will out running five star defensive backs in the big ten.........LOL

[bighousemike84]

I love everything I see about this kid. Its awesome to think that Michigan is set at QB for the next 6 years! Forcier, Robinson and Gardner what a combination! I love the playmakers that Rodriguez is recruiting! Would any of these kids have ended up at Michigan under Carr or Miles? I dont think so

[GoDeepHammer]

I am glad to see that Gardner is willing to fight to show how good he really is. Plus, it's awesome to see what kind of an athlete this kid really is.

I would think that some of them would have been here, but not all of them.

[rickyleach]

i can see big10 titles and national title games are in our very near future.. man i cant wait to see these young guys perform at the big HOUSE..

[Blue In Ohio]

If anything this will help bring in other 4 and 5 star players.

[BlueBallers]

I just hope we beat Ohio Snake in recruiting in 2010. I know that Rivals, Scout, ESPN and other services don't really mean that much and is not a true measure of future team success(ask ND). It would still be nice for bragging rights and it does shed some positive light on the program and help recruiting down the line.

[Bossgobbler23]

I'm glad Gardner got his 5th star. He is most deserving. He is an outstanding receiver as well when he lines up that way.

[tpilews]

I just hope we beat Ohio Snake in recruiting in 2010. I know that Rivals, Scout, ESPN and other services don't really mean that much and is not a true measure of future team success(ask ND). It would still be nice for bragging rights and it does shed some positive light on the program and help recruiting down the line.

I'm sure UM will this year. Tuos is limited in the scholarship #s, and UM seems to be making more and more space every week. I'd look for UM to sign a full class of 25. I think tuos only has 16 open spots.

[goblue]

Yep, Devin just picked up his 5th star from Scout. Rivals should be following suit soon, I'd think.

Scout Profile (http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=8&c=1&nid=3717412)

QB Ranking (http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=4&pid=10&yr=2010)

Lets hope. Right now rivals doesn't even have him in the top 100. He made the top 250 at #171 as of now. But that could change during the season. Forcier never made the top 100 or 5 star status either. And he was rated high for accuracy. Yet he's supposed to be the savior for Michigan. Lets hope Gardner can do the same thing.

[tpilews]

Lets hope. Right now rivals doesn't even have him in the top 100. He made the top 250 at #171 as of now. But that could change during the season. Forcier never made the top 100 or 5 star status either. And he was rated high for accuracy. Yet he's supposed to be the savior for Michigan. Lets hope Gardner can do the same thing.

Well, Rivals was the service that was touting Gardner as the top QB after the Elite 11 Camp. And according to a couple articles written just after that camp, the Rivals guys said he'd be in the top 100 for the next update. How high he will go, I don't know?

[1OSUNUT]

The higher he goes the less chance you will have that he actually attends Michigan. If he ends up being that highly rated would he be willing to sit for 3 years untill Tate or Robinson leave ? Would RR do a Tressel and bench Tate or Robinson to get him in AA ? All fair questions.

I just don't see a kid rated that high that would be willing to be a bench player. Even if he redshirts next year he would still sit two seasons after that. There will be some openings nationally where he could step in and play as a freshman or sophmore at worst.

[Check]

"step in and play as a freshman or sophmore at worst."

For someone who claims to have a good knowledge of college sports you should know it is Sophomore. Don't go away mad, just go away.

[1OSUNUT]

You still did not answer the question.

[rickyleach]

nut you mean would RR fucck over tate or d/rob just to get gardner in , like tressel did with boekman , i think he makes room for all three and we have 3 qbz in the backfield at the same time.. i think what is funny ,now that gardner is a 5 star , he also put on more weight and grew 2 inches..

[BBA1994]

The higher he goes the less chance you will have that he actually attends Michigan. If he ends up being that highly rated would he be willing to sit for 3 years untill Tate or Robinson leave ? Would RR do a Tressel and bench Tate or Robinson to get him in AA ? All fair questions.

I just don't see a kid rated that high that would be willing to be a bench player. Even if he redshirts next year he would still sit two seasons after that. There will be some openings nationally where he could step in and play as a freshman or sophmore at worst.

Nut, go back to sucking tressy's lolly. What does getting a 5th star have to do with his decision to keep committed to UM? He already knew the QB situation when he committed in April. He's already got all the offers he can handle so it's not like he is waiting for an offer from some school that he didn't get one from. My guess is he is just simply not a tuos pu$$y and relishes the challenge of competing for the QB position.

[byebyelloyd]

You still did not answer the question.

he's playing for michigan, question answered, pussy. on a better note, who's going to play for ohio state after pryor fails miserably for the next 2-3 years? no one is going to commit and ohio state will have a horrible QB situation for at least the next 4-5 years. too bad.

[1OSUNUT]

Is he signed yet ?

All I'm saying is that if Tate or Robinson blows up this year and appears to be the starter for the next 3 years - is Gardner willing to sit. Many things will happen between now and signing day. I'm sure that many birds will be chirping in his ear between now and signing day. Now if Tate and Robinson suck - he comes to AA, but I don't see that happening. You don't think its a legit question ? Michigan has had lesser kids change their minds - why not Gardner. If he plays well this year and can walk into a program and start - he will not be in AA.

[BBA1994]

Is he signed yet ?

All I'm saying is that if Tate or Robinson blows up this year and appears to be the starter for the next 3 years - is Gardner willing to sit. Many things will happen between now and signing day. I'm sure that many birds will be chirping in his ear between now and signing day. Now if Tate and Robinson suck - he comes to AA, but I don't see that happening. You don't think its a legit question ? Michigan has had lesser kids change their minds - why not Gardner. If he plays well this year and can walk into a program and start - he will not be in AA.

Once again nut, take the tressypop out of your mouth and just think. Not one thing you are writing about pertains to Devin getting that 5th star. Can you be more of a d-bag?

[1OSUNUT]

How many 5 star QB's pick a school and sit for 3 years ?

[byebyelloyd]

Is he signed yet ?

All I'm saying is that if Tate or Robinson blows up this year and appears to be the starter for the next 3 years - is Gardner willing to sit. Many things will happen between now and signing day. I'm sure that many birds will be chirping in his ear between now and signing day. Now if Tate and Robinson suck - he comes to AA, but I don't see that happening. You don't think its a legit question ? Michigan has had lesser kids change their minds - why not Gardner. If he plays well this year and can walk into a program and start - he will not be in AA.

i guaran-fucking-tee he will go to michigan, no question. you're only pissed off because pryor proved to be poor QB choice for ohio state, gardner already throws better than pryor, and he shit all over ohio states offer to accept michigan's. thats fact pussy, not your pussy speculation.

[1OSUNUT]

I love the fact that we have Pryor - he will be awesome this year. Your hate comes from the fact that he face fucked you guys - I know that. He will be a much better passer this year and will be a Heisman canidate if not this year then next - will Tate. Robinson or Gardner ? I'm guessing no.

I'm glad your so sure he will attend Michigan - if he does great for Michigan. I just don't see it. Then again many of you predicted Pryor was a slam dunk no doubt Michigan signee. We all know how that turned out. If fact I'm sure if you gave RR a polygraph test he would take Pryor over Tate, Robinson or Gardner. When Mack Brown and other coaches give TP high praise it means a hell of a lot more then what you think.

When TP rips up your defense again this year - let me know what you think.

[NCBLUE]

How long do you think TP will be at oSU ? If he explodes as you think he will be gone after his Jr. year.

RR is not promising Tate, Robinson or Gardner anything other than they will be given a chance to compete for the job. As a competitor it is all you can ask. Did the vest promise TP the job, probably not, I would hope he came in a earned it.

[1OSUNUT]

Why would Gardner want to sit for 3 years if he could play somewhere else - that is all I'm saying. If TP want to actually play QB in the NFL - he has to stay all 4 years. Look at Tebow - he is a better passer then TP and nobody is even looking at him as a NFL QB. TP can be a Charlie Ward - Tommy Frazier type college QB this year and the next 2. That is great for Buckeye fans but not great for his chances at the next level.


Like I said if Michigan lands Gardner - great for them. He would be an outstanding addition. But many teams will be offering him the world to attend their school. Remember these are young kids and playing time is ultra important.

* I do happen to think Tressel promised TP playing time last year if he attended Ohio State. Maybe not the starting job - but playing time. He had to do something to make sure Penn State or worse yet Michigan did not get him.

[GoDeepHammer]

Time will tell, but from what he says, he is blue. I don't hear about him looking other places or taking visits.

[1OSUNUT]

That is great for you guys. He seems like a real nice pick up.

[NCBLUE]

If Gardner is as good as advertsied then he will compete and get an opportunity.

I know a lot of shuffling occurs during the recruiting season because recruits look at where they have the best opportunity to play is at. He very well may pass on Michigan if he thinks he will sit for 3 years. Maybe he will be fine with playing the last 2 years. Mostly I think that blue chip recruits are full of enough confidence that they think they will be able to compete for a position and win.

I am sure TP looked at oSU, thought worst case scenario he would sit a year and then get the starting nod. Most likely he felt he would see significant playing time by the second half of the season.

I am anxious to see once Michigan & RR gets the players and system installed how it will fair against oSU. Tressel has been slow to adapt and make any adjustments but RR has not faced an opponet like oSU either. If RR has success it will have ripple effects across the Big Ten and high school football in the midwest, especially Michigan. If it does not work then Michigan's program will be set back years.

[bighousemike84]

RR has not faced an opponet like oSU

So your saying that Oklahoma is not an OSU like team? I think Rodriguez has faced teams like UOS before and I am sure he knows what he is going to get from a Tressel coached team

[NCBLUE]

I am referring to in conference games. Where teams learn each other much more closely than playing once a decade in a bowl game.

Yes WV faced Oklahoma & Georgia, however there are not teams in the Big East like oSU (or Mich & PSU for that matter)

[1OSUNUT]

I think what he is talking about is that RR has not faced a team with the talent of Ohio State that is so focused on that game. Tressel and Ohio State focus on that game all year.

No matter how good Gardner is he would be light years behind Tate and Robinson. You don't just learn RR's system in one offseason without playing. If Tate and Robinson are half as good as you people make them out to be - Gardner is going to be planted on the bench for several years. Are you guys saying that Tate and Robinson are not as good as Gardner ? Because if you are then it goes against everything you have been bragging about all Summer.

[GoBlue21]

It's plain and simple, the BEST QB plays!

If Gardner comes in and he's better than Forcier and Robinson, he will play! If it takes him a season to get adjusted, then he'll reshirt and LEARN from Robinson and Forcier.

RichRod has made it clear to EVERYONE that the best players play. Nobody is guaranteed a spot, they have to earn it.

Whether that's Gardner's freshman, sophomore or junior year, time will tell. Gardner KNOWS who's in front of him. He knows Forcier and Robinson are there. You play your best 11 on offense, end of story!

[NCBLUE]

It is all relative. There is always the next great all world player. That is why we have competitions and prove themsleves. Will TP prove to be more successful that Troy Smith.

From what I can observe Tate is a solid qb, who is sure of himself. Does that mean he will be better that Gardner next year, who knows. Your right Tate will have a year head start on him so he should be further along. However I will be interested to see if RR modifies the offense to suit Tate's accuracy since he has shown a propensity for a run oriented spread at WV which would be better suited for Robinson.

[rickyleach]

i love the fact that deven gardner and tate already throw the ball better then pryor does, and d/rob is faster then pryor , we have three very capable qbz and osu has one who at anytime will go down .i hope he breaks his leg or arm , and has to sit all year , i will laugh my asss off, maybe tressel can call up one of the 6 qbz he fuccked over the last few seasons , better yet how about kenny guyer , the 67th ranked qb nobody wanted , ha ha ha ha , pryor and ohio state are only one player and one play away from 6 and 6 or 7 and 5 , ha ha ha ha , and nut your still an IDIOT......

[byebyelloyd]

I love the fact that we have Pryor - he will be awesome this year. Your hate comes from the fact that he face fucked you guys - I know that. He will be a much better passer this year and will be a Heisman canidate if not this year then next - will Tate. Robinson or Gardner ? I'm guessing no.

I'm glad your so sure he will attend Michigan - if he does great for Michigan. I just don't see it. Then again many of you predicted Pryor was a slam dunk no doubt Michigan signee. We all know how that turned out. If fact I'm sure if you gave RR a polygraph test he would take Pryor over Tate, Robinson or Gardner. When Mack Brown and other coaches give TP high praise it means a hell of a lot more then what you think.

When TP rips up your defense again this year - let me know what you think.

he can't pass now and never will. the fact you can't accept that makes you more pathetic than you could ever perceive. all you're incessant posting about michigan players proves your fear about not only losing this year, which ohio state will, but for quite a while as players like gardner will be committing for several years. sorry about the fact that pryor isn't going to turn out to be the great QB you wished so badly for but thats the breaks. i was never high on pryor then i saw him pass and knew he is so overhyped that he can never live up to that level. after the poor excuse for passing you claim is so great we all saw from him in spring and preseason, well pussy, again i say its going to be a long long year for ohio state.

[rickyleach]

what did you think mac brown was going to say , dah pryor is really stupid and just plain sucks, like i posted before , i hope he breaks his leg and ohio state will fold like its playing fla again, and ill laugh my assss off , but hey you got the great tressy as coach ,the same guy who has lost his last 7 games against top 10 teams, usc usc usc usc usc , thats tressels daddy ,,,,,,

[GoBlue21]

i hope he breaks his leg or arm

I love your enthusiasm and hatred toward the Buckeyes, I'm right with you there. But, I really don't agree with that statement. I wish no injury on any kid in any sport. We can disagree from now to doom's day with the Bucks, but we have to remember that these are young kids with A LOT on their shoulders. The last thing I want to see happen is a kid injured.

Michigan's had their fair share of injuries over the last few years, so we definitely know what it feels like to lose a starting QB! I want Pryor to be healthy when they face the Wolverines, battle it out on the field. That's what the game is all about. That way if Michigan 'happens' to win, there's no excuses...

The sportsmanship now-a-days is gotten out of hand, not directing this towards anyone, just speaking in general. I like the idea of the teams slapping hands before the game, football is the only sport that doesn't do it. The taunting, flamboyant look-at-me players, excessive celebrations, can anyone just play football anymore? Act like you've made a sack before, act like you've scored a TD before, etc....

I play pretty competitive softball in the Cincinnati Area and play in a basketball league as well. Man, I'm only 29 and the times have changed. There is SO MUCH trash talking on a softball field and basketball court, it's unbelieveable. It makes you not want to play, it's like a soup opera out there. Too much drama! Play against some high school kids in that basketball leagues, you should hear them talk. "You better watch your tone with me" "We can settle it with knuckles" Some 'kids' (17-18 years old) actually said that to a teammate of mine that's almost 30 years old. The 'coach' of the high school runs the league and he just sits there. I'm just dumbfounded by some of things that go on these days. If I said something like that during high school in a summer league, my coach would have had me running LAPS!

Man have the times changed!

[1OSUNUT]

Dickyleach,

You have proven once again what a classless piece of low life trash you actually are by wishing a college kid breaks his leg. You are the very reason I enjoy the struggles Michigan is going through. As much as I don't like Michigan - I respect them and NEVER wish any of their kids get hurt. You on the other hand give the good Michigan fans on this site a bad name. For your sake and the few dirt bags on this site like you - I wish Michigan the absolute worst luck possible. I hope you guys lose every F'in game. The only difference is that I hope all your kids escape the season with their health. You are the ultimate A-hole. Congrats !!!!!!

Byebyelloyd,

Wishful thinking. TP will be an awesome QB this year. If you would pull your head out of your ass long enough maybe you will realize that Michigan does not have the only players that can improve. TP will be light years better this year and he will roll Michigan this year - again. So enjoy the next few weeks of ragging on the Buckeyes and TP because your time is coming. Once you guys lose your opener and once the Irish roll you - I'm going to be all over retards like you and Dicky. You two ass cowboys will have to bear the brunt of the jokes. So enjoy watching your beloved Wolverines struggle and sputter all season - it could not happen to two bigger losers.

[Gobluerebirth]

[QUOTE=1OSUNUT;17850]Dickyleach,

You have proven once again what a classless piece of low life trash you actually are by wishing a college kid breaks his leg. You are the very reason I enjoy the struggles Michigan is going through. As much as I don't like Michigan - I respect them and NEVER wish any of their kids get hurt. You on the other hand give the good Michigan fans on this site a bad name. For your sake and the few dirt bags on this site like you - I wish Michigan the absolute worst luck possible. I hope you guys lose every F'in game. The only difference is that I hope all your kids escape the season with their health. You are the ultimate A-hole. Congrats !!!!!!

Almost all of those things can be said for you too. You're classless on the forum, you're an A-hole. You enjoy Michigan losing because it's your Rival. Many Ohio State fan I've talked to are worse than Leach. (I live in Lancaster, Ohio)

[1OSUNUT]

I was not aware that there is a trailer park in Lancaster. I guess you learn something new every day. :)

[rickyleach]

GOBLUE21 , I REALLY DONT WANT PRYOR TO GET HURT ,I JUST POSTED THIS TO PISS OUR NUMBER1 ASSSHOLE ON THIS SITE OFF, please excuse me for part of that post ,but for nutcummmm ,ill never back off cause he is a complete ohio state moron.....

[rickyleach]

hey nut .i have noticed you have a new word , asss cowboy, is that what you and your co/workers talk about when your changing oil for people ,or do you think of those words when standing in front of your valvaline store waiting for cust/muuuurs, dont worry im going to rip your asshole and pusssy all season ,you can bank on that PUSSSSY...

[byebyelloyd]

Dickyleach,

You have proven once again what a classless piece of low life trash you actually are by wishing a college kid breaks his leg. You are the very reason I enjoy the struggles Michigan is going through. As much as I don't like Michigan - I respect them and NEVER wish any of their kids get hurt. You on the other hand give the good Michigan fans on this site a bad name. For your sake and the few dirt bags on this site like you - I wish Michigan the absolute worst luck possible. I hope you guys lose every F'in game. The only difference is that I hope all your kids escape the season with their health. You are the ultimate A-hole. Congrats !!!!!!

Byebyelloyd,

Wishful thinking. TP will be an awesome QB this year. If you would pull your head out of your ass long enough maybe you will realize that Michigan does not have the only players that can improve. TP will be light years better this year and he will roll Michigan this year - again. So enjoy the next few weeks of ragging on the Buckeyes and TP because your time is coming. Once you guys lose your opener and once the Irish roll you - I'm going to be all over retards like you and Dicky. You two ass cowboys will have to bear the brunt of the jokes. So enjoy watching your beloved Wolverines struggle and sputter all season - it could not happen to two bigger losers.

damn pussy, its not hard to see how insignificant pryors passing "improvement" is. he fucking blows like the buckeyes. your so much of a little fucking pussy, you simply can not acknowledge the mistake it was to try to build a pro style offense around a WR trying to play QB. the buckeyes are going to lose quite a bit this year and i will be here to point it out and laugh at your pussy ass every time. the problem is you're too much of a pussy to take it so you will be hiding out as usual every time ohio state gets fucking thumped.

[1OSUNUT]

I'm easy to find. Lets see where you are after week one. Just remember if Pryor was in AA - Tate, Robinson and Gardner would not matter. That is why your sorry ass coach chased his ass all over PA. Just remember who is picked to win the Big Ten - again. I guess when you cannot compete with a team and they kick your ass every year all you can do is call them names. Keep bragging about your offense while your defense keeps sucking. I bet you have a whole bunch of excuses made up as to why Michigan lost to Western already. If you don't - start working on them. The reports out of AA is that your defense cannot tackle or stop anybody - but I'm sure your used to that already.

How is it going to feel watching Ohio State celebrate on your home field again this year ? Man are you in for a surprise when you see Pryor this year. The kid has been working his ass off and is determined to get better - and he will. Enjoy your 4 or 5 win season - loser.

[Bighouse]

1OSUNUT "Man are you in for a surprise when you see Pryor this year. The kid has been working his ass off and is determined to get better".

I heard a camera is being used behind pryor to record the field during workouts. Sounds like a problem. He can't see the field worth of shit. Im sure pryor is working that ass. Are you pitching since pryor is catching? Or is it the other way around?

[1OSUNUT]

They are using state of the art technology in an effort to have improved film to study. What is wrong with that. I'm sure RR records every practice as well. This way when TP views film it is exactly like he is seeing it on the field. I happen to think its a great idea. If RR did it first you guys would be sucking his weenie even more - but because its Ohio State there must be a problem No problems. The preseason offensive MVP will quickly show you why he was named such. Keep on drinking that hater aid. We are very comfortable going into this season - Michigan fans are not. Wait till you see your wonderful defense on opening day - can you say App.State all over again.

[Wolvrin704]

I'm easy to find. Lets see where you are after week one. Just remember if Pryor was in AA - Tate, Robinson and Gardner would not matter. That is why your sorry ass coach chased his ass all over PA.

You're right, if we had TP the other guys may or may not have came to UM and wouldn't have mattered nearly as much. But then who would OSU have had at QB this year? If TP had gone to UM would you be talking badly about his passing skills right now? Non of it matters because he went to OSU and now we have our own guys. They all have their own special abilities, especially DR who is a 4.3 guy just as TP is.



Just remember who is picked to win the Big Ten - again. I guess when you cannot compete with a team and they kick your ass every year all you can do is call them names.

When did they start handing out conference titles based on preseason voting? Just remember what it was like 10 years ago when UM was beating OSU every year. Those days could come back at any time and we are all aware of just how quickly this rivalry can turn around.



Keep bragging about your offense while your defense keeps sucking. I bet you have a whole bunch of excuses made up as to why Michigan lost to Western already. If you don't - start working on them. The reports out of AA is that your defense cannot tackle or stop anybody - but I'm sure your used to that already.

There are no reports coming out of AA that the defense cannot tackle or stop anyone. You're assuming that based on what people are saying on here about how good our offense is looking. Our defense may or may not be bad. We will know in 2 weeks how they look and the length of the season will sustain just what theya re or are not. I wouldn't say a great D will exactly win championships as you look at OSU's great D and they still got manhandled by Florida, LSU and USC.



How is it going to feel watching Ohio State celebrate on your home field again this year ? Man are you in for a surprise when you see Pryor this year. The kid has been working his ass off and is determined to get better - and he will. Enjoy your 4 or 5 win season - loser.

I won't lie, I'm sick and tired of OSU winning every year. But as I said that can turn around very quickly so we will se as time will tell. As for TP, I'll believe it when I see it. Maybe you are right and he is a much better passer but we will see in 2 weeks. I don't want to hear anything about how he canthrow a great 60 yd pass, I want to see how well he can complete the short and midrange passes, that along with accuracy will show whether he has actually improved or not.

[bighousemike84]

They are using state of the art technology in an effort to have improved film to study. What is wrong with that. I'm sure RR records every practice as well. This way when TP views film it is exactly like he is seeing it on the field. I happen to think its a great idea. If RR did it first you guys would be sucking his weenie even more - but because its Ohio State there must be a problem No problems. The preseason offensive MVP will quickly show you why he was named such. Keep on drinking that hater aid. We are very comfortable going into this season - Michigan fans are not. Wait till you see your wonderful defense on opening day - can you say App.State all over again.

State of the art technology?! A camera taped to a pole and stood up behind Pryor to film the defense is state of the art technology? Wow

And I dont care what anyone says Penn State beat UOS straight up and that makes Penn State the B10 champs.

[rickyleach]

,as always nut has NO IDEA of what he is talkin about , WERE GONNA DO THIS AND WERE GOONNA DO THAT , YOULL SEE , WE WILL SEE ALRIGHT AND ILL BE LAUGHIN MY ASSS OFF JUST LIKE I HAVE OVER THE LAST 4 SEASONS , AND TRESSEL WILL BE THE NATIONS HORSES ASSSS AGAIN AS A COACH, AND YOUR BUCKEYES WILL BE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL FOR THE 5TH YEAR IN A ROW.. HA HA HA HA HA ....

[Bighouse]

1OSUNUT: "state of the art technology"

I wouldn't consider a handheld camera ducktaped to a wooden pole state of the art. No, there is a big problem here. The guy can't see the field. You know it, Tress knows it and defenses know it. If the main receiver is not open he runs. There are major problems in OSU land.

[byebyelloyd]

I'm easy to find. Lets see where you are after week one. Just remember if Pryor was in AA - Tate, Robinson and Gardner would not matter. That is why your sorry ass coach chased his ass all over PA. Just remember who is picked to win the Big Ten - again. I guess when you cannot compete with a team and they kick your ass every year all you can do is call them names. Keep bragging about your offense while your defense keeps sucking. I bet you have a whole bunch of excuses made up as to why Michigan lost to Western already. If you don't - start working on them. The reports out of AA is that your defense cannot tackle or stop anybody - but I'm sure your used to that already.

How is it going to feel watching Ohio State celebrate on your home field again this year ? Man are you in for a surprise when you see Pryor this year. The kid has been working his ass off and is determined to get better - and he will. Enjoy your 4 or 5 win season - loser.

i don't give a fuck how hard you wish he was working, he's a fucking overhyped joke of a QB WHO STILL FUCKING SUCKS BALLS, and you will get to see that when ohio state starts the season badly then gets worse as the offense sputters over and over. i expect no less from such a bitch like yourself who disappears every time ohio state sucks which is often. you are easy to find, you're the fucking pussy crying the loudest when it doesn't work out for you.

[bighousemike84]

Sorry LLoyd but Pryor does not suck balls. He struggles throwing the intermediate routes but he is far from sucking balls. I dont enjoy admitting it but the dude is probably one of the best athletes in the country! Again he cant throw to save his life but UOS will still win games this year solely based on his athletic abilitys

[byebyelloyd]

Sorry LLoyd but Pryor does not suck balls. He struggles throwing the intermediate routes but he is far from sucking balls. I dont enjoy admitting it but the dude is probably one of the best athletes in the country! Again he cant throw to save his life but UOS will still win games this year solely based on his athletic abilitys

not seeing it. they don't have the offense to support his running and no one will respect a non factor passing game. ohio state is not looking as good as you all try to believe.

[bighousemike84]

I dont think that Ohio State is as good as hyped but I do think that Pryor is. Because of the lack of a runner like Wells UOS will struggle this season. You cant lose the amount of starters that they lost on both sides of the ball and expect to be just as good. Still, Pryor is good enough to will UOS to wins that they might not get otherwise. You saw it last year, teams didnt respect his passing and keyed on him running the ball yet he still got his yards. Face it the kids good, UOS might not be so good and watch out of Pryor goes down but I still see a 9 win season for the Buckeyes

[1OSUNUT]

You people are judging a kid based on how he played as a true freshman without the lions share of the reps last Summer - WOW

As bad as he was in your eyes - who was the freshman of the year in the Big Ten ? So Michigan will be better this year in your eyes why - because they know the system better ? Well what do you think TP is doing - nothing.

He will know the whole game better. He will not lock onto one WR, he will have a better sense of time, he will not hold the ball and most importantly he will be confident. A QB who is confident will throw the ball - not try to place it. TP played careful last year and it showed on a lot of his throws. But if you actually watched the Buckeyes play - he did have some very nice tight throws as well. You folks want to rip him apart - go right ahead.

Just answer me one question. If TP could not throw as many of you think - then why was he so highly rated and why did RR try so very hard to recruit him. The same RR that many of you follow like he is Jesus wanted TP more then any recruit he ever went after. Why is that ?

The kid is a freak of nature and has leadership qualities beyond his years. Last year he stepped in and took over for a All Big Ten QB on a veteran team. Not all the kids bought into the change at it showed. This is now TP's team and he will play like it. If you think that all the players in college football get better year to year but TP won't - your going to be very unhappy. As much as it is going to kill you - TP is going to be a real witch this year and a major thorn in the side of Michigan for 3 more years - just like Troy Smith was.

[Bighouse]

Hey NUT, I heard a video recorder was ducktaped to a broomstick to determine why Pryor can't see the field. Sounds like huggggge problem. He can't see the field worth of shit. He should be a wide receiver not a qb.

[Gobluerebirth]

You people are judging a kid based on how he played as a true freshman without the lions share of the reps last Summer - WOW

As bad as he was in your eyes - who was the freshman of the year in the Big Ten ? So Michigan will be better this year in your eyes why - because they know the system better ? Well what do you think TP is doing - nothing.

He will know the whole game better. He will not lock onto one WR, he will have a better sense of time, he will not hold the ball and most importantly he will be confident. A QB who is confident will throw the ball - not try to place it. TP played careful last year and it showed on a lot of his throws. But if you actually watched the Buckeyes play - he did have some very nice tight throws as well. You folks want to rip him apart - go right ahead.

Just answer me one question. If TP could not throw as many of you think - then why was he so highly rated and why did RR try so very hard to recruit him. The same RR that many of you follow like he is Jesus wanted TP more then any recruit he ever went after. Why is that ?

The kid is a freak of nature and has leadership qualities beyond his years. Last year he stepped in and took over for a All Big Ten QB on a veteran team. Not all the kids bought into the change at it showed. This is now TP's team and he will play like it. If you think that all the players in college football get better year to year but TP won't - your going to be very unhappy. As much as it is going to kill you - TP is going to be a real witch this year and a major thorn in the side of Michigan for 3 more years - just like Troy Smith was.

You expect us to believe in Pryor and give him respect. But you don't give Michigan one ounce of respect. 2-way-street? Deal?

[bighousemike84]

Why was Pryor recruited by RR?

Lets see maybe it had something to do with his athletic ability! Rodriguez recruited Pat White, Terrele Pryor, Denard Robinson and Devin Gardner. All of those guys are excellent athletes that need work in the QB department. Each of those guys has the physical talents to be a great player its just they need work.

Pryor is an amazing talent that still needs work. I know as a Buckeye fan you want so bad for him to be better but as a somewhat unbiased observer I am telling you that he is not. The fact that they need the camera to show him the defense is an example that proves my point. By his senior year(if he lasts that long) he should be a Heisman trophy winner but he is still young and dumb and he still cant throw the short routes.

Its gonna be imperitiv(?) for Ray Small to keep his ass on the team cause god knows Pryor will need him! Defenses will have to respect Pryors running ability so with Small hes got a reciever fast enough to get in behind the defense and while Pryor sucks at the intermediate routes he has an awesome arm to throw those deep balls that just seem to drop from the heavens.

Anyway im not going to deny that Rodriguez wanted this kid bad, but im also not going to believe that he is so incredibly improved when I watched him throw in practice and I saw the suckage. He will get there but hes definitely not there yet

[1OSUNUT]

You expect us to believe in Pryor and give him respect. But you don't give Michigan one ounce of respect. 2-way-street? Deal?

The big difference is that TP was not 3-9 last year. Michigan has a lot more to prove then TP does. He had a pretty good season last year - all things considered. I think Michigan fans would be thrilled if they got that kind of play from any one of their three QB's this year. Was he Tebow or McCoy - NO. But for being thrown in without a whole lot of work in the pre-season - he did a very nice job. He showed many times the ability to do very special things - I only expect those kinds of plays to increase as he matures. He will become one of the biggest weapons in college football this year because of his ability to run, break tackles and create confusion. When he rolls out or sweeps the DB's have a huge choice to make - and all he needs is for them to make a few mistakes a game for very good things to happen.

I expect Michigan to be better this year - they have to be. I cannot see another 3-9 season. If that happens in AA this year people will be jumping out of windows. I also expect Pryor to be vastly improved.

[amazinblue]

He will know the whole game better. He will not lock onto one WR, he will have a better sense of time, he will not hold the ball and most importantly he will be confident.

The kid is a freak of nature and has leadership qualities beyond his years.

Nut,

What makes you think he's still not locking into one WR? Where have you seen it? The Spring game? Practice film? Hmmmm....

And, leadership - he really looked like a leader on the sidelines after that Penn State game last year. WAY beyond his years - I haven't seen crying like that since a little league baseball game...

[1OSUNUT]

or at least since RR's post game interview when Pittsburgh beat West Virgina with a BCS Title game on the line. :D

[Bigg Blue Rulz]

Or since tressy told you that he did not want you to blow him this week since you bit him last time!!!

[1OSUNUT]

Wow Bigg Blows - you have only 14 posts on this site and that is all you can come up with ? No wonder your never around very much.

[The Michigan Man]

Just answer me one question. If TP could not throw as many of you think - then why was he so highly rated and why did RR try so very hard to recruit him. The same RR that many of you follow like he is Jesus wanted TP more then any recruit he ever went after. Why is that ?


There was a big difference between what everyone thought TP was in HS and what he actually was last year. Surrounded by experienced NFL talent, he looked very ordinary, good at times, lost at others. In retrospect, I'm sure that RR would have still pursued TP because of his speed, but would he have pursued him so zealously if he knew his mechanics were so weird?

I think it all worked out. If TP would have played for Michigan last year, he would have looked as bad as Threet/Sheridan did, and I don't think he would have handled it well. Based upon his temperament and crying on the sidelines, he may have had episodes and actually found his way out of the program, so I can honestly tell you I have no regrets about losing him.

[byebyelloyd]

You people are judging a kid based on how he played as a true freshman without the lions share of the reps last Summer - WOW

As bad as he was in your eyes - who was the freshman of the year in the Big Ten ? So Michigan will be better this year in your eyes why - because they know the system better ? Well what do you think TP is doing - nothing.

He will know the whole game better. He will not lock onto one WR, he will have a better sense of time, he will not hold the ball and most importantly he will be confident. A QB who is confident will throw the ball - not try to place it. TP played careful last year and it showed on a lot of his throws. But if you actually watched the Buckeyes play - he did have some very nice tight throws as well. You folks want to rip him apart - go right ahead.

Just answer me one question. If TP could not throw as many of you think - then why was he so highly rated and why did RR try so very hard to recruit him. The same RR that many of you follow like he is Jesus wanted TP more then any recruit he ever went after. Why is that ?

The kid is a freak of nature and has leadership qualities beyond his years. Last year he stepped in and took over for a All Big Ten QB on a veteran team. Not all the kids bought into the change at it showed. This is now TP's team and he will play like it. If you think that all the players in college football get better year to year but TP won't - your going to be very unhappy. As much as it is going to kill you - TP is going to be a real witch this year and a major thorn in the side of Michigan for 3 more years - just like Troy Smith was.

answer me this you fucking dipshit pussy, if we all saw how terrible he was passing this year for ourselves already, how do you try to lie like a little cock sucking bitch and post otherwise. he blows, can not throw and will struggle badly this year. your fantasy doesn't now or ever change that.

[byebyelloyd]

or at least since RR's post game interview when Pittsburgh beat West Virgina with a BCS Title game on the line. :D

or possibly all the osu bitch fuck fans after said bcs game, yeah you fucking pussy, we all remember, again, we saw it for ourselves.

[rickyleach]

Michigan man , i agree and our little buddy 1osunut would have dogged the hell out of pryor if he had gone to michigan, i think a big part of why people are not sold on pryor as a pure qb is because rivals and scouts and herbstriet and his group made this kid out to be the best ever ,to me i think for all his hype and with all that talent osu had ,pryor was not that great ,and he really isnt very good at passing the ball. He is a special player ,but at what position, anyhow go blue...

[1OSUNUT]

Big Ten freshamn of the year and pre-season offensive MVP - I will take my chances with Pryor for the next 3 years. Enjoy your beatings.

[byebyelloyd]

Big Ten freshamn of the year and pre-season offensive MVP - I will take my chances with Pryor for the next 3 years. Enjoy your beatings.

with his passing game and terrible decision making, i'm not concerned in the least now that rodriguez has had a chance to make his transition. ohio state loses at least 4of the next 5, most likely the next 5, bet on it.

[1OSUNUT]

Looks like somebody started hitting the pipe a bit early this weekend. Lets see if you feel the same way after you lose the opener. :D

[NCBLUE]

So nut when do you predict Mich next wins in the series ? Obviously nothing goes on forever.

[1OSUNUT]

Honestly - the year after TP leaves is the best chance I see. I think this class is really special and the Buckeyes are young. The defense will be very good this year and off the hook next year. The offense will grow this year and be very good the following two. TP will only get better and will be a Vince Young type weapon (or much better) in his junior and senior season. That is how I really feel.

[amazinblue]

Honestly - the year after TP leaves is the best chance I see. I think this class is really special and the Buckeyes are young. The defense will be very good this year and off the hook next year. The offense will grow this year and be very good the following two. TP will only get better and will be a Vince Young type weapon (or much better) in his junior and senior season. That is how I really feel.

Nut,

You say this and accuse others of hitting the pipe? I think you need to look in the mirror...

How much better is this year's Buckeye squad than last year's? Why? Based on what you've said, Tressel was holding out on all this tremendous talent - just keeping it under wraps last year - because he was waiting for THIS year. Yeah, sure - I'm buying THAT...

[Wolvrin704]

Honestly - the year after TP leaves is the best chance I see. I think this class is really special and the Buckeyes are young. The defense will be very good this year and off the hook next year. The offense will grow this year and be very good the following two. TP will only get better and will be a Vince Young type weapon (or much better) in his junior and senior season. That is how I really feel.

So what if they are special. Should we just award them the MNC for 2010 through 2012? I've seen many other very talented teams who should have won it all fall to the wayside and so it could possibly be with the Buckeyes. If you do not believe that then you are fooling yourelf and have never watched much CF.

[1OSUNUT]

704,

That was not the question. The question was when do I think Michigan will win a game again against Ohio State.

[Wolvrin704]

704,

That was not the question. The question was when do I think Michigan will win a game again against Ohio State.

So because you have a QB with speed and somewhat of an arm we have no chance? PULEASE.

[rickyleach]

same o same o crap from nut, this town of c/bus is holding their breath about pryor, all of that teams success is based on one player, ohio states offensive line still has many question marks , ohio states defensive backs still is their weakest link, how you can post on this board about how much better they are then last season is a joke , REMEMBER NUT YOU AND YOUR GIRLFREINDS SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS ON HOW YOU WERE GOING TO RUN THE TABLE AND HOW GREAT YOUR TEAM WAS, get over yourself and admit you were only good and couldnt keep up with the big boys, you dont have one player at running back even close to beenie , i will admit over the next couple of years ,if all your key people stay healthy ohio state will be a nc contender, but along with this other teams including michigan are getting stronger and with no doubt challenge osu and penn/state for the top spot in the b/10, i have read where you say whats michigan going to do if tate goes down , im happy to tell you we have more then one qb ,the real question is what the hell you going to do if pryor goes down , i can see ohio state going 7 and 5 if this happens maybe 6 and 6 , michigan will improve far more then ohio state will in 2009 ,and i dont just mean by winning games ..

[1OSUNUT]

Just remember that while your bragging about all the talent RR has coming into AA - one team in the conference has out recruited you every year. OHIO STATE. The Buckeyes are young just like Michigan and has better players - that is why I feel so good about the future.

[amazinblue]

Just remember that while your bragging about all the talent RR has coming into AA - one team in the conference has out recruited you every year. OHIO STATE. The Buckeyes are young just like Michigan and has better players - that is why I feel so good about the future.

Nut,

Do you believe development is critical for on field performance? The one thing that many of us have said is that under Carr, Michigan didn't develop players to their maximum potential. I think that under RR - development will be vastly improved - just look at what some of the strength numbers are.

I'll grant you that OSU has had recruiting classes than are "higher ranked" than Michigan's recently. But, it's not as if OSU classes are number 1 - and Michigan's are 119. There is a difference - but, the difference has not been "massive".

What you better get ready for is the attitude and development of Michigan's squad - and you'll get the first glimpse of that in a couple of weeks. I think we'll see a difference from the start. And, though our depth chart isn't as deep as we'd like - I'm confident that we'll get there quickly - and, we'll continue to get better and better.

[Wolvrin704]

Just remember that while your bragging about all the talent RR has coming into AA - one team in the conference has out recruited you every year. OHIO STATE. The Buckeyes are young just like Michigan and has better players - that is why I feel so good about the future.

Again its been discussed time after time that the rankings of players are an arbitrary system. All the system is for is bragging rights. Just because you recruit big, slow lineman who have high rankings doesn't mean a team is going to be better than another. And its not who has the most talent, its who utilizes that talent. I'll take my chances with RR.

Is your football team just as young as you claimed your basketball team is? If we bragged about being young wouldn't you disclaim that by saying they would make mistakes? I do believe that is what you said last year as you were bragging about your great veteran team. Again they beat us but they dodn't exactly crush anyone else.

Lets turn this around....you have TP for at least another season. Who do you have after that? We have Tate and Robinson for 3 more years garaunteed and Gardner will be here through 2012 at least. You have 1 talented QB, we have 3. I know you'll just starting pointing out all the other guys you have and we can do the same but the QB position is the one you keep referring back too.

[1OSUNUT]

If Pryor wants to be a NFL QB he is in Columbus for 3 more years - just like Troy Smith was. He is also very close with his classmates that were brought in with him. I don't see him leaving early.

I think it will be hard to get an elite level QB in Columbus for a few years - decent but not elite. I will be shocked if Gardner actually signs - a lot can happen between now and signing day. I do think that after next season the Buckeyes will be in position to grab damn near who ever they want. Many elite teams will have replacement QB's in place for a few more years (Fla,TX,OK,LSU,etc) and Ohio State will be looking for the TP replacement. Just remember that kids like Berry, Sabino, Bell and many others picked Ohio State over many of the ekite teams in the nation. The players are in place and Ohio State is in the process of changing the way they do things. I think you will see step one in a few weeks.

[The Michigan Man]

If Pryor wants to be a NFL QB he is in Columbus for 3 more years - just like Troy Smith was. He is also very close with his classmates that were brought in with him. I don't see him leaving early.


So Pryor wants to be buried in the depth chart on some NFL team and earning a paycheck while keeping his uniform clean like Troy Smith. Dream big, young man, haha, that is great!

[rickyleach]

Nut is dreaming big alright , and it isnt about football...

[bighousemike84]

Pryor will bolt for the NFL after his Junior season. The only way he doesnt is if he is just terrible and projects as a 4th or 5th round player. The kid is good so I dont see that happening. Bookmark this shit or whatever you gotta do nut cause in 2 years time I gaurantee that Pryor will be on an NFL roster.

[Wolvrin704]

This is where NUT kills me, he talks about how great TP is but keeps saying he needs to stay 4 years to develop into an NFL QB.

1. If he's so talented why wouldn't he leave after 3 years like so many others have done?

2. Exactly how many starting NFL caliber QB's has JT developed?


I do think that after next season the Buckeyes will be in position to grab damn near who ever they want. Many elite teams will have replacement QB's in place for a few more years (Fla,TX,OK,LSU,etc) and Ohio State will be looking for the TP replacement

1. If TP leaves early you'll be competing with some of those schools.

2. Most of those schools like to stockpile QB's (like UM is doing) so I don't see all of the QB's knockng down OSU's door, especially if TP does not turn into a GREAT QB. LSU for instance will be looking for someone to replace Shepard by that time as well and there are many other schools that are always in need of QB's. Unless a guy is an OSU homer I see most of them looking elsewhere.


will be shocked if Gardner actually signs - a lot can happen between now and signing day.

What? You think he might go back to the Buckeyes? I really doubt he signs elsewhere, I know anything can happen, but the same thing could happen to OSU.

[1OSUNUT]

Bradford, McCoy and Tebow all stayed for their senior year - they must not be NFL QB's. Pryor has to switch from a running QB to a pocket passer if he wants to go to the next level - that will take time. I don't see teams lining up for spread type QB's. If he wants to play WR or return kicks - he will leave early.

[rickyleach]

to be honest , i dont think pryor really knows what he wants, we all remember pryor saying he would be going to the university of ohio state because of the senior leadership and because he wanted the best chance of becoming a nfl qb , both of these reasons were bullshhit , first why would you go to a school who has turned out almost nothing at that position in the nfl, the coaching staff at osu is not one of the top for making nfl qbz, second tressel promised this young man the world , and it was pretty clear ,when he benched boekman after the second game , we went from learning from senior leadership, to i want to do whatever i want, do i think the boy wants to be a nfl qb , yes ,but to say this is why he went to osu is nothing more then bullssshit , the boy new all along wher he was headed ,but because his ego controls him played the game until the very end, their are many schools better suited for this kid on making him a qb then osu , they are not even in the top 20, and why nut would you think gardner will go somewhere else , BECAUSE YOU SAID SO RIGHT.he wont be leaving for another school , he has been working real hard at getting other recruits to commit to michigan , oh and by the way scouts around the country already say he is farther along at throwing the ball then t pryor was at this stage , he might not run a 4.3 in the 40 but ill take 4.4 or 4.5 anyday , plus the kid can pass..

[bighousemike84]

Bradford, McCoy and Tebow all stayed for their senior year - they must not be NFL QB's. Pryor has to switch from a running QB to a pocket passer if he wants to go to the next level - that will take time. I don't see teams lining up for spread type QB's. If he wants to play WR or return kicks - he will leave early.

WRONG!

Pryor doesnt have to switch to a pocket passer just to make it into the NFL. I mean just take a look at the NFL from the last 10 years. Donovan Mcnabb came into Phili as a scrambling quarterback and over time learned how to not run the ball all the time. Michael Vick was a pure athlete yet he played QB in the NFL. Vince Young didnt change anything about himself and yet he got drafted as a QB. Daunte Caulpepper was drafted as a scrambling QB, Jamarcus Russel was drafted as a running QB by the Raiders! So why would Pryor not be drafted as a QB? As long as he is athletic enough and has the right body size for the NFL it wont matter how he plays cause a team will take him and worry about all the rest later. Also Bradford, Mccoy and Tebow arent headcases. Pryor is a punk and a headcase like Vince Young. You are stupid if you dont think that the money will lure him away. If he has a good Junior year and projects at the top of the draft then he is gone cause their is no way that the kid can turn down that money

[1OSUNUT]

How much sucess has any of those guys had in the NFL. One can argue that McNabb has had a fine career - but the others ? Vince Young was suposed to be the guy that breaks the mold - he has been a flop. Teams will look at other QB's before they look at a guy like Pryor. Tebow is an outstanding college QB - but nobody in the NFL wants him as a QB. I really feel that if they did he would of jumped this year. The teams are looking for the next Matt Ryan or Joe Flaco - not the next Vince Young. Bradford and McCoy will be drafted light years ahead of Tebow. If Pryor comes out as a QB - no matter how good he is (Heisman or not) - he is a third rounder or later I feel. The only way he becomes a first rounder is if he becomes a Ryan type passer and he won't ever be that. He is a scamble, run around and throw QB - not a typical pocket passer. The pocket passer that can run a bit is still what NFL teams want.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

How much sucess has any of those guys had in the NFL. One can argue that McNabb has had a fine career - but the others ? Vince Young was suposed to be the guy that breaks the mold - he has been a flop. Teams will look at other QB's before they look at a guy like Pryor. Tebow is an outstanding college QB - but nobody in the NFL wants him as a QB. I really feel that if they did he would of jumped this year. The teams are looking for the next Matt Ryan or Joe Flaco - not the next Vince Young. Bradford and McCoy will be drafted light years ahead of Tebow. If Pryor comes out as a QB - no matter how good he is (Heisman or not) - he is a third rounder or later I feel. The only way he becomes a first rounder is if he becomes a Ryan type passer and he won't ever be that. He is a scamble, run around and throw QB - not a typical pocket passer. The pocket passer that can run a bit is still what NFL teams want.

Not just trying to talk trash but Tebow is a MUCH better passer than pryor is. I also think he will play QB in the NFL, he has so much more upside in the NFL than Pat White does and he got drafted in the second round.

[Wolvrin704]

How much sucess has any of those guys had in the NFL. One can argue that McNabb has had a fine career - but the others ? Vince Young was suposed to be the guy that breaks the mold - he has been a flop. Teams will look at other QB's before they look at a guy like Pryor. Tebow is an outstanding college QB - but nobody in the NFL wants him as a QB. I really feel that if they did he would of jumped this year. The teams are looking for the next Matt Ryan or Joe Flaco - not the next Vince Young. Bradford and McCoy will be drafted light years ahead of Tebow. If Pryor comes out as a QB - no matter how good he is (Heisman or not) - he is a third rounder or later I feel. The only way he becomes a first rounder is if he becomes a Ryan type passer and he won't ever be that. He is a scamble, run around and throw QB - not a typical pocket passer. The pocket passer that can run a bit is still what NFL teams want.

Well its about time you admit to what TP actually is. Any other time you're trying to proclaim to the world how great of an arm he has.

With all that said how can you guys forget Steve Young, Randall Cunningham and Warren Moon? All guys who could be pocket passers but who scrambled effectively as well. All 3 guys had great careers as well.

As far as the guys who stayed another year....they weren't proclaimed the next greatest thing ever....in high school by the media and moronic fans. He now has to live up to the rep that was created for him and perpetuated by him.

[amazinblue]

Bradford, McCoy and Tebow all stayed for their senior year - they must not be NFL QB's. Pryor has to switch from a running QB to a pocket passer if he wants to go to the next level - that will take time. I don't see teams lining up for spread type QB's. If he wants to play WR or return kicks - he will leave early.

Nut,

Answering the question of "What Pryor needs to play QB at the next level?" - it's pretty simple - an accurate arm. Pryor's running ability is nice - but, if he doesn't improve his throwing by a significant margin - no NFL team will consider him as a QB. Sure, teams may look at him for other positions because of his athletic ability, but - that arm of his, especially his touch and accuracy - need to improve a LOT if he ever expects to be drafted as a QB.