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1OSUNUT
08-22-2009, 05:28 PM
Here is an article from the Saturday Cleveland Plain Dealer. This is directed at the clowns that think Pryor has the inability to improve.


Terrelle Pryor's development amazes Jim Tressel:

Ohio State Football
by Doug Lesmerises, The Plain Dealer Friday August 21, 2009, 9:55 PM


COLUMBUS -- When he takes the field at Ohio Stadium this morning for the Buckeyes' jersey scrimmage, two weeks before the season opener against Navy, Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor will do it in nearly unrecognizable form compared to a year ago, at least the way OSU coach Jim Tressel tells it.
"It's like he's two different people right now," Tressel told Columbus radio station WBNS FM/97.1 on Friday, the coach's first interview since the Buckeyes started hitting in practice this week. "He's the same athlete he was, maybe then some, but he's 10 times the quarterback he was."

The scrimmage should include about 160 plays and give Pryor his greatest test before he opens a season as a starter for the first time. He took the job in the fourth game a year ago, but during the preseason was getting about 15 percent of the practice repetitions while Todd Boeckman served as the No. 1 quarterback. And a year ago, the jersey scrimmage was closed, leaving it to teammates to tell stories about the new quarterback on the block.

"He showed great comfort, he showed poise," OSU linebacker James Laurinaitis said a year ago. "I think he knows when he has the ball in his hands he can make something special happen on every play."

That "something special" was part of Pryor's repertoire last season. The expected improvement now comes in the mundane -- reading defenses, repeating his throwing motion, running a team. An attribute like his arm strength always was there, but as Pryor said earlier in camp when talking about last season, "I didn't know where I was going with it sometimes."

"I didn't know too much," Pryor said, explaining his journey from a freshman hitting campus last June to a preseason backup to a starter by the end of September. "I just jumped in and I came here in the summer and had no time with the coaches, no one-on-one to learn the defenses and stuff like that.

"Now I know the defenses like that," Pryor continued, snapping his fingers.

Though closed to the public, reporters will be allowed to watch today's scrimmage, so an unvarnished assessment of where Pryor stands will be available to an anxious fan base. Pryor was OK in the spring jersey scrimmage, throwing an interception in the end zone, but then impressed the Ohio Stadium crowd in the spring game, following a good final week of spring practice by completing 13 of 18 passes for 191 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions.
"You saw today, and the world saw, that I can throw the ball," Pryor said then.

Four months later, the world wants more of it. The athlete is known, but they want more of the quarterback who says the position is becoming second nature.

"In high school, you just go out and ball. You have fun, you score as many touchdowns as you can, you throw the ball as high and far as you can and let the other athletes go get it," Pryor said. "But in college you have great coaches all around and different techniques to learn. It's a lot different in college."

He's had the full college experience now -- spring ball, a full summer on campus to work out, a preseason where he's the guy. His high school game should have vanished, all this college knowledge taking its place.

"We'll find out against Navy," Pryor said. "I don't want to put myself above what I think, or below. We'll find out our first, second game. I feel confident."

With that confidence, Pryor talked about watching freshman Kenny Guiton, the third-string quarterback who has looked better than advertised, earning praise from Tressel. Pryor, enjoying the new role of mentor, looks at Guiton and sees the past.

"His mechanics are exactly as mine were last year," Pryor said. "He takes too much of a stride, his release. It's amazing how he looks just like me."

The old me, he means.

michAGAIN
08-22-2009, 05:31 PM
YAWN

Hey, for those who went to Wolverine Fan Day, how was the experience?

The Michigan Man
08-22-2009, 05:51 PM
Here is an article from the Saturday Cleveland Plain Dealer. This is directed at the clowns that think Pryor has the inability to improve.


Terrelle Pryor's development amazes Jim Tressel:


Turn to the word "insecure" in the dictionary, this post is listed as an example. Geez, at least try to act like you really believe in the guy

The Michigan Man
08-22-2009, 05:55 PM
"He showed great comfort, he showed poise," OSU linebacker James Laurinaitis said a year ago. "I think he knows when he has the ball in his hands he can make something special happen on every play."


OK, I hate to pull a double-post, but holy shit, Laurinaitis said he looked comfortable and poised last year? Haha...of course his own teammates / coach are going to say he looks amazing in the preseason, they said it last year, they said it this year, and will say it next year!

You're acting like some sort of objective analysis is going on, if it is coming out of Columbus, its going to be biased - ddddddduuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh

rickyleach
08-22-2009, 06:51 PM
Ha ha ha ha , 6/10 radio the fan with hooley and spielman say nothing of the same , and i think they know more then you dipshhit , i live in c/bus and have heard not one thing of what you have heard, this entire city is praying that pryor is atleast better then last season and many of your buckeye faithful arent so sure , nut your a fuckin moron , you just post sshit to post it ,

Wolvrin704
08-23-2009, 12:20 AM
The really funny thing is they write this article BEFORE the actual scrimmage where they can see the development with their own eyes and instead rely on 2nd hand testimonies.

rickyleach
08-23-2009, 08:55 AM
this is nothing more then horse tressel , pryor couldnt even run against his own d and his passing was oka during the saturday scrimage, this kid is in it for himself and he doesnt have a clue what team means , as long as he is the man the kid will be happy,

rickyleach
08-23-2009, 01:41 PM
this just in ,from the columbus disbatch and ohio state football team , their has been an amaizing development in t,pryor , just in one nite he has put on 50 pounds and grew 4 inches he now is 6/10 and weighs 285 and runs a 4,2 40 , tressel is still out on the field in total shock , more news to come later on...

Wolvrin704
08-23-2009, 03:06 PM
So how did Pryor do Saturday?

rickyleach
08-23-2009, 04:20 PM
the dispatch reports the buckeye scrimmage was less then stellar, they also said that if ohio state qb pryor gets hurt , they have no one to replace him, bauserman is far from quality and guiton is far from even being bauserman , ohio state has nothing in depth at qb , the season will live or die with pryor, AS THE DISPATCH SAYS IF PRYOR GOES DOWN AND HIS TEAMMATES ENCIRCLE HIM WITH THEIR HELMETS OFF , THEY MIGHT BE PRAYING FOR THEIR SEASON..

byebyelloyd
08-23-2009, 07:00 PM
Here is an article from the Saturday Cleveland Plain Dealer. This is directed at the clowns that think Pryor has the inability to improve.


Terrelle Pryor's development amazes Jim Tressel:

Ohio State Football
by Doug Lesmerises, The Plain Dealer Friday August 21, 2009, 9:55 PM


COLUMBUS -- When he takes the field at Ohio Stadium this morning for the Buckeyes' jersey scrimmage, two weeks before the season opener against Navy, Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor will do it in nearly unrecognizable form compared to a year ago, at least the way OSU coach Jim Tressel tells it.
"It's like he's two different people right now," Tressel told Columbus radio station WBNS FM/97.1 on Friday, the coach's first interview since the Buckeyes started hitting in practice this week. "He's the same athlete he was, maybe then some, but he's 10 times the quarterback he was."

The scrimmage should include about 160 plays and give Pryor his greatest test before he opens a season as a starter for the first time. He took the job in the fourth game a year ago, but during the preseason was getting about 15 percent of the practice repetitions while Todd Boeckman served as the No. 1 quarterback. And a year ago, the jersey scrimmage was closed, leaving it to teammates to tell stories about the new quarterback on the block.

"He showed great comfort, he showed poise," OSU linebacker James Laurinaitis said a year ago. "I think he knows when he has the ball in his hands he can make something special happen on every play."

That "something special" was part of Pryor's repertoire last season. The expected improvement now comes in the mundane -- reading defenses, repeating his throwing motion, running a team. An attribute like his arm strength always was there, but as Pryor said earlier in camp when talking about last season, "I didn't know where I was going with it sometimes."

"I didn't know too much," Pryor said, explaining his journey from a freshman hitting campus last June to a preseason backup to a starter by the end of September. "I just jumped in and I came here in the summer and had no time with the coaches, no one-on-one to learn the defenses and stuff like that.

"Now I know the defenses like that," Pryor continued, snapping his fingers.

Though closed to the public, reporters will be allowed to watch today's scrimmage, so an unvarnished assessment of where Pryor stands will be available to an anxious fan base. Pryor was OK in the spring jersey scrimmage, throwing an interception in the end zone, but then impressed the Ohio Stadium crowd in the spring game, following a good final week of spring practice by completing 13 of 18 passes for 191 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions.
"You saw today, and the world saw, that I can throw the ball," Pryor said then.

Four months later, the world wants more of it. The athlete is known, but they want more of the quarterback who says the position is becoming second nature.

"In high school, you just go out and ball. You have fun, you score as many touchdowns as you can, you throw the ball as high and far as you can and let the other athletes go get it," Pryor said. "But in college you have great coaches all around and different techniques to learn. It's a lot different in college."

He's had the full college experience now -- spring ball, a full summer on campus to work out, a preseason where he's the guy. His high school game should have vanished, all this college knowledge taking its place.

"We'll find out against Navy," Pryor said. "I don't want to put myself above what I think, or below. We'll find out our first, second game. I feel confident."

With that confidence, Pryor talked about watching freshman Kenny Guiton, the third-string quarterback who has looked better than advertised, earning praise from Tressel. Pryor, enjoying the new role of mentor, looks at Guiton and sees the past.

"His mechanics are exactly as mine were last year," Pryor said. "He takes too much of a stride, his release. It's amazing how he looks just like me."

The old me, he means.

again, i talked to REAL ohio state fans who actually followed the team before 2002 unlike nutsack, putz 1, don dipshit, etc., and they are way more than concerned over pryors lack of progress as a QB. they watch practices when they can, unlike nutsack, and see that the improvement is not really existent. its great to talk to knowledgable fans who understand that ohio state is not moving forward like they would hope for but trying to run an unfamiliar offense with an inadequate QB.

michAGAIN
08-23-2009, 07:16 PM
Byebyelloyd makes a good point. 1OSUNUT - I'm sorry to break this news but Tressel is playing the last card of a desperate man. Read between the lines. Tressel announces he is very pleased to see TP's progress. As a coach, when you have done everything in your power to improve a player and he doesn't show the results the only thing left is to build up his self-esteem to make him believe in himself. Therefore, maybe, just maybe it will be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Tressel's fingers are crossed because he knows he has nothing else. It is one of the oldest tricks in the book. Remember Notre Dame's hype about Ron Powlus? 1OSUNUT -Just keep telling yourself that TP is great. You'll feel better too.

1OSUNUT
08-23-2009, 10:42 PM
Big Deal - TP could not run or be hit. Is that really a shocker two weeks before the opener ? Do you think Bradford, McCoy or Tebow is being hit right now. How many hits do you think Robinson and Tate are taking ? My guess is none.

Pryor was not allowed to run and if you touched him he was down. How Dicky gets that he is in it for himself out of that - who knows. I guess drugs are a powerful thing. I did not hear much about the second string QB but I heard the third stringer is starting to impress people (Guiton). It's well known that ALL teams protect the QB's in the weeks leading up to the opener.

I'm sure he will not have a black jersey on in the opener against Navy - and he will display all his skills.

amazinblue
08-23-2009, 11:25 PM
.[B] "He's the same athlete he was, maybe then some, but he's 10 times the quarterback he was." .

Nut,

Here's are a few math questions for you. What is one times zero? What is ten times zero? What is a hundred times zero? What is infinity times zero?

So - regardless of what TP's progress is - mutliplying it times what his arm was able to do - the results are still the same. Anything times zero is.... zero..

1OSUNUT
08-23-2009, 11:54 PM
60% completion rate, 12td's to 4 int's, two losses, a win over Michigan and Freshman of the Year - I don't see that as being zero. Zero is the QB play Michigan got last year.

Plus 1
08-24-2009, 12:06 AM
Pryor has been very confident since spring camp:

QUOTE: He's smarter. Watching himself on film from a year ago, he can only shake his head.

"It just disgusts me," Pryor said. "I can't believe I didn't know that, but now I know it.

{A freshman QB with a 10 win season, a Big Ten Title, and 16 seconds from a BCS Bowl win over a Texas team that SHOULD have been in the NC game, AND he's disgusted with what he did'nt know last year, BUT he knows it now.}



http://www.cleveland.com/buckeyeblog/index.ssf/2009/04/ohio_state_football_pryor_disg.html


And TP more confident now {getting the nod for Offensive PS Player of the Year over players like Daryll Clark, Evan Royster & Juice Williams etc :



http://lebrownstown.com/?tag=terrelle-pryor



http://www.bucyrustelegraphforum.com/article/20090815/SPORTS/908150315

amazinblue
08-24-2009, 03:51 AM
Nut,

Hmmm... forgive me for what may have seemed like derisive comments regarding TP - and equating his play to "zero" last year. I really should share your insight and perspective - since you obviously know far more about football, hell - you've probably forgotten more about football than I'll ever know. Well... to get to the point - I guess TP's performance last year - with all of his accolades and all, well - it must have been the mathematical equivalent of infinity. So.. let's try this again.. What is one times infinity? What's ten times infinity? What's infinity times infinity? Yep - infinity. So, my guess is - you'll see similar play from TP this year to what you saw last year.

I'm sure you'll be thrilled with what he does against Navy. I think I'll be pretty happy with what he does against USC...

RADRACING
08-24-2009, 09:28 AM
Propaganda BS, looks like people are making up fantasies in Columbus.

JimBo Schembechler
08-24-2009, 12:45 PM
Buckeye Propaganda that some of the world class kool-aid chuggers are slurping up.

Pryor will make plays with his feet, but I see the offense struggling quite a bit seeing as how they lost both starting WRs, starting RB, and starting LT from last year. Plus they now have a fat cowardly tub of goo where a LG should be.

I predict TP will either turn into an even bigger headcase than he already is when things start not to go his way and melt down on the field, or he'll end up in handcuffs or get caught taking handouts from the boosters.

Take your pick.

michAGAIN
08-24-2009, 01:01 PM
JimBo let me add just one more detail:

....a fat cowardly tub of goo (WITH A BAD KNEE) where a LG should be.

Dick Hertzer
08-24-2009, 04:49 PM
1OSUNUT, I haven't had a chance to get your take on the upcomming OSU season. What are your thoughts? I think you guys are going to struggle and I'm not impressed with your running game. I say you guys lose 3 or 4. Thought's? Predicitions? Tressel in trouble?

1OSUNUT
08-24-2009, 05:23 PM
I think the Buckeyes have two real tests - USC and Penn State. I really like this team and I expect them to be real good. I think that they win the Big Ten and beat Michigan again this year. Next year is the year I really expect this team to be something special. The defense will be stout this year like always and the offense will go as TP goes. I expect him to improve over last year - a lot. The USC game will tell a lot. They always seem to be a different team away from home so Ohio State has to win or have a great showing. I feel the PSU game should tell us who the Big Ten champ will be. The Buckeyes had to fill some holes but i really like the guys that they have filling them. If we get past USC I expect us to go unbeaten - then we have another tough BCS bowl waiting for us.

Is Tressel in trouble - not at all. The fans and the school are very happy with him. I do think that the heads of the OC and DC are on the line this year. You do not bring in this kind of talent and have the kind of resources and facilities Ohio State does and under achieve. I would love to see a shake up in that area - not with the head coach.

I happen to like the running game. Herron will be tough, Saine will be good in situations out of the backfield and Pryor will do his fair share of damage. The guy to look out for is Berry. If he continues to impress he will get a lot of playing time.

Wolvrin704
08-24-2009, 05:32 PM
I think the Buckeyes have two real tests - USC and Penn State. I really like this team and I expect them to be real good. I think that they win the Big Ten and beat Michigan again this year. Next year is the year I really expect this team to be something special. The defense will be stout this year like always and the offense will go as TP goes. I expect him to improve over last year - a lot. The USC game will tell a lot. They always seem to be a different team away from home so Ohio State has to win or have a great showing. I feel the PSU game should tell us who the Big Ten champ will be. The Buckeyes had to fill some holes but i really like the guys that they have filling them. If we get past USC I expect us to go unbeaten - then we have another tough BCS bowl waiting for us.

Is Tressel in trouble - not at all. The fans and the school are very happy with him. I do think that the heads of the OC and DC are on the line this year. You do not bring in this kind of talent and have the kind of resources and facilities Ohio State does and under achieve. I would love to see a shake up in that area - not with the head coach.

I happen to like the running game. Herron will be tough, Saine will be good in situations out of the backfield and Pryor will do his fair share of damage. The guy to look out for is Berry. If he continues to impress he will get a lot of playing time.

For Dick, did you really think NUT would answer any different.

For NUT, I remember you saying exactly the same thing in 2007 that the next year would be special because of all the seniors.

NorCal Buckeye
08-24-2009, 09:14 PM
The real question ought to be will the phenom be impressed with the innovative coaching, and wide open playbook he will have to aid his growth as a top rate quarterback NFL star to be someday?

If Tressel doesn't turn this kid and supporting cast into the Greatest Show On Earth, then I don't know about Coach.

This team ought to run and gun like we have never seen before in Cbus.

The question is will they be coached to do so, and will they be let to do so?:cool:

The Michigan Man
08-24-2009, 09:50 PM
When the title of you post has five exclamation points, you may be a little bit desperate...

amazinblue
08-25-2009, 09:25 AM
The real question ought to be will the phenom be impressed with the innovative coaching, and wide open playbook he will have to aid his growth as a top rate quarterback NFL star to be someday?

If Tressel doesn't turn this kid and supporting cast into the Greatest Show On Earth, then I don't know about Coach.

This team ought to run and gun like we have never seen before in Cbus.

The question is will they be coached to do so, and will they be let to do so?:cool:

NorCal,

I think your assessment of the offense is fair, direct, and objective. What do you think of the Buckeye's D?

1OSUNUT
08-25-2009, 09:44 AM
The one thing that is always consistant is the Buckeye defense. They will be very good this year and great next year.

Wolvrin704
08-25-2009, 10:13 AM
The one thing that is always consistant is the Buckeye defense. They will be very good this year and great next year.

You owe me $5 everytime you say that. :rolleyes:

By next season I should be able to retire comfortably. :D

amazinblue
08-25-2009, 11:22 AM
The one thing that is always consistant is the Buckeye defense. They will be very good this year and great next year.

Nut - I wasn't asking you. I was asking someone who seems to be objective about the Buckeyes - NorCal.

And, if you do give 704 five dollars every time you say what you did - I think he'll be able to retire by Christmas...

NorCal Buckeye
08-25-2009, 11:49 AM
Buckeye D should be solid as usual this year...

Rumors are the D line might be exceptional, and the secondary looks good again too. The only question mark is the linebacking corps, especially with the one kid being lost for the season in a bar fight. But I would expect the newbies to be able to step in and do at least a workmanlike job. When was the last time O-State was weak at linebacker? Never.

If I'm coaching these kids, I turn the lions loose on the D-line...run blitz, pass blitz, and more blitz. With the excess talent I rotate bodies in and out to keep my guys fresh, and their guys exhausted and confused.

We shall see. I don't know how much more I can take of Coach trying to win games with prevent defense, and field position offense...:cool:

Silver Bullet
08-25-2009, 12:38 PM
I'm going to have to side with the Um fans on this one. I don't think we should put much stock into what his actual head coach says. However, if you would like some rock-solid analysis on some of the Um QB's, I would ask you to head over to the Um threads. Case in point, one poster said that Um's Robinson handled himself very professionally during the autograph session and therefore will be a good quarterback. Game, set, match fellas. This explains why Tressel cancelled the autograph session after the open practice. Pryor isn't ready to lead from the autograph table.

Wolvrin704
08-25-2009, 08:11 PM
We shall see. I don't know how much more I can take of Coach trying to win games with prevent defense, and field position offense...:cool:

Yet another way he is similar to Carr.

I agree your D should be solid, it always is. But they will have to be a little better than that until your offense can gel.