McGuffie Gone :(

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

per rivals:
http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=888262

also we had TWO yes, TWO players on the Rivals All-Big 10 first + second teams:
First Team:
P Zoltan Mesko
Second Team:
DE Brandon Graham

hey, i guess it could be worse, we could be Indiana. (zing)

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

so, now that this is official, what is the effect of this transfer on THE TEAM? (as opposed to people's mindless, droning thoughts about the effect of McGuff leaving on the PROGRAM)

i think with shaw, minor and brown we will be set for next year; and i hope that by the time MINOR RAGE and Carlos leave; shaw and possibly Touissant will be set to take the reigns. any thoughts?

[tpilews]

As much as it sucks to lose a guy with as much talent as McGuffie, I've been keeping the mindset that he's already been gone for a few weeks. So, this isn't a big shocker. Honestly, and many have agreed with this, his future was at a slot position. And at UM, that position is filled with tons of great athletes. Not saying he would or wouldn't have played, but there is a good amount of depth there.

I think you are right Stevie; Minor, Brown and Shaw will all see action. I am hoping Shaw will show some progress and be ready to take over in 2010 as the featured back. I can't comment on the new freshmen until I see them play some games. However, with Sam's departure, this does open the door for the possibility of picking up a major recruit at RB in the 2010 class.

[GoDeepHammer]

I wish him well and I hope that he succeeds wherever he lands.

I think that our RB depth is good. We also have Cox that red-shirted this year.

[Hawks]

per rivals:
http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=888262

also we had TWO yes, TWO players on the Rivals All-Big 10 first + second teams:
First Team:
P Zoltan Mesko
Second Team:
DE Brandon Graham

hey, i guess it could be worse, we could be Indiana. (zing)

Sad to hear that, unless he goes to Iowa:D

[Hawks]

Sad to hear that, unless he goes to Iowa:D

Where is he going? Closer to home?

[GoDeepHammer]

Where is he going? Closer to home?

Yes, back to Texas. He is saying that Texas A&M is his leader at this time.

[Todd]

McGuffie will likely transfer somewhere closer to home that is a better fit for his skill set. His injury history and family issues are reported to be the reasons for his departure from Michigan.

[amazinblue]

I'm sorry to hear that. I wish the young man well - nothing but the best in both football and life.

He was a highlight reel waiting to happen, and the combination of injuries and personal issues probably drove him to this decision.

Good Luck Sam...

[Sten Carlson]

Well the Aggies could certainly use a talent like Sam!

I thought he looked great early on, but it seemed to me that we was a bit too small to have a huge impact on the game as a RB. Usually little guys that make great RBs are little bowling balls that are really hard to see and knock down.

I think that hit in the OSU game was the kicker -- man that was one of the hardest hits I've ever seen in college football.

At least I'll be able to watch him play as he is exciting!

I wish Sam well, and hope that he brings the Aggies some luck -- Gig Em!

For those of you that haven't been to Kyle Field in Aggieland, it is quite and experience. I went for the first time this year to see the Aggies v. Miami. If there is ever a fanbase that deserves a great team it is the Aggies. With all their cheers/yells, traditions, and passion it is a shame to see them play so poorly.

The word is that they have a very hard time recruiting against UT, OU, and now TT and OSU. It seems that most of the guys that go to A&M are either guys that didn't get the call from the others, or guys that are already Aggies, and have been dreaming about playing for A&M since they were kids. Anyway, as I said, good luck Sammy!

[tpilews]

However, with Sam's departure, this does open the door for the possibility of picking up a major recruit at RB in the 2010 class.

2010 RB prospects:

OH RB Eric Howard - tuos leader. Grew up rooting for teams like tuos, michigan, and Miami (FL)
PA RB Corey Brown (Official Offer) - Torn MCL. Offers from everyone. UM not in top 8 right now.
FL RB Devon Wright - Interested in: Florida, Miami, FSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, LSU, and USF
CA RB Brennan Clay (Official Offer) Teammate of '09 commit Tate Forcier.
PA RB Chad Hagan - Basketball prospect.
MI RB Austin White (Official Offer) likely MSU commit.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

Where is he going? Closer to home?

rivals article listed Texas A&M, Tech, TCU and Oklahoma State; if i'm not mistaken.

on a related note i read that Darryl Clark's backup at Penn State is going to be transferring as well, leaving them with one scholarship QB. (it's some token italian guy, Cicarelli or some-such mobster type name). I guess he's looking FCS. my guess is he's wishing he would've went to michigan, where he'd be fighting for a starting spot.

finally:
what's the good word on Shonne Green and Beanie? is either going pro?

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

The word is that they have a very hard time recruiting against UT, OU, and now TT and OSU. It seems that most of the guys that go to A&M are either guys that didn't get the call from the others, or guys that are already Aggies, and have been dreaming about playing for A&M since they were kids. Anyway, as I said, good luck Sammy!

sounds alot like MSU...

[Silver Bullet]

2010 RB prospects:

OH RB Eric Howard - tuos leader. Grew up rooting for teams like tuos, michigan, and Miami (FL)
PA RB Corey Brown (Official Offer) - Torn MCL. Offers from everyone. UM not in top 8 right now.
FL RB Devon Wright - Interested in: Florida, Miami, FSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, LSU, and USF
CA RB Brennan Clay (Official Offer) Teammate of '09 commit Tate Forcier.
PA RB Chad Hagan - Basketball prospect.
MI RB Austin White (Official Offer) likely MSU commit.

I think if OSU offers, than Erick would commit, but as of now he doesn't have the grades. He was just named Mr. Football in Ohio, so he's definitely talented but not getting it done in the classroom.

I don't know if McGuffie was leaving before the OSU game, but that hit, I'm sure, made his decision easier.

[Silver Bullet]

what's the good word on Shonne Green and Beanie? is either going pro?

Beanie's gone. Tressel basically said that he'd be nuts to stick around another year when he's a top pick in this year's draft.

[tpilews]

Beanie's gone. Tressel basically said that he'd be nuts to stick around another year when he's a top pick in this year's draft.

Hmmm.... I guess you can't blame the guy for pursuing an NFL career. I know if I were in his shoes I'd be doing the same thing.

What's the backfield look like for tuos next year? (and I don't want to hear the biased 1osunut assessment, be fair)

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

Hmmm.... I guess you can't blame the guy for pursuing an NFL career. I know if I were in his shoes I'd be doing the same thing.

What's the backfield look like for tuos next year? (and I don't want to hear the biased 1osunut assessment, be fair)

prob the same as it did against USC, so nothing special.

[tpilews]

prob the same as it did against USC, so nothing special.

Okay, let's try this again:

Silver Bullet,

What's the backfield look like for tuos next year?

[Silver Bullet]

Hmmm.... I guess you can't blame the guy for pursuing an NFL career. I know if I were in his shoes I'd be doing the same thing.

What's the backfield look like for tuos next year? (and I don't want to hear the biased 1osunut assessment, be fair)

I'm not excited. Herron looks serviceable and there are a few, highly regarded freshmen coming in next year. One is a speed guy and the other is a bulldozer, but I don't really put much stock into anything until I see a freshman actually take the field. You never know how their game translates coming out of high school.

The wildcard is Brandon Saine.
Ohio’s 2006 Mr. Football after rushing for 1,895 yards and 27 touchdowns on 259 carries and totaling 412 yards on 30 pass receptions as a senior … Parade All-American … runs a 4.35 40-yard dash … rated as the No. 2 overall prospect in Ohio … garnered all-state, all-conference and conference player of the year honors as a junior and a senior … ranked as high as the No. 11 running back prospect in the nation … rushed for 240 yards on 30 carries and scored three touchdowns to lead Piqua to the 2006 Division II state championship … OSU coaches like his combination of break-away speed and power … is the reigning 100- and 400-meter Div. I state track champion … competed in the first-annual Offense-Defense All-American Bowl, helping lead the East squad to a 24-18 victory … owns a 3.3 GPA … committed to Ohio State in May 2006 … Personal: Born Dec. 14, 1988 … son of Wendi Croft … has two siblings.
http://www.the-ozone.net/football/2007/signinglist.htm

He was supposed to be the complete package coming out of high school. But he's been battling injuries his whole career and seemed to regress as the season went along last year. Looks like he's a track guy, masquerading as a football player

[tpilews]

I'm not excited. Herron looks serviceable and there are a few, highly regarded freshmen coming in next year. One is a speed guy and the other is a bulldozer, but I don't really put much stock into anything until I see a freshman actually take the field. You never know how their game translates coming out of high school.

The wildcard is Brandon Saine.
Ohio’s 2006 Mr. Football after rushing for 1,895 yards and 27 touchdowns on 259 carries and totaling 412 yards on 30 pass receptions as a senior … Parade All-American … runs a 4.35 40-yard dash … rated as the No. 2 overall prospect in Ohio … garnered all-state, all-conference and conference player of the year honors as a junior and a senior … ranked as high as the No. 11 running back prospect in the nation … rushed for 240 yards on 30 carries and scored three touchdowns to lead Piqua to the 2006 Division II state championship … OSU coaches like his combination of break-away speed and power … is the reigning 100- and 400-meter Div. I state track champion … competed in the first-annual Offense-Defense All-American Bowl, helping lead the East squad to a 24-18 victory … owns a 3.3 GPA … committed to Ohio State in May 2006 … Personal: Born Dec. 14, 1988 … son of Wendi Croft … has two siblings.
http://www.the-ozone.net/football/2007/signinglist.htm

He was supposed to be the complete package coming out of high school. But he's been battling injuries his whole career and seemed to regress as the season went along last year. Looks like he's a track guy, masquerading as a football player

So, could be really good, or could be okay. The one good thing tuos has going for them is TP should be able to draw attention, thus creating more room for the RBs. That Saine kid looks like he could be a beast, so any season could be a breakout for him. It could be a weird year for tuos offensively it seems like. A lot of unknowns. It's been some time for you since that has happened.

[rickyleach]

ohio state will miss beenie wells, he was a big part of why pryor had some success this season , saine and boom are not like beenie , but ohio state has jamal berry as a recruit for 2009 and he is good, word has it he is a soft verbal even though he had a great time at the osu michigan game, fla and miami were trying to get him..

[Silver Bullet]

So, could be really good, or could be okay. The one good thing tuos has going for them is TP should be able to draw attention, thus creating more room for the RBs. That Saine kid looks like he could be a beast, so any season could be a breakout for him. It could be a weird year for tuos offensively it seems like. A lot of unknowns. It's been some time for you since that has happened.

Having Pryor will definitely lessen the burden of whoever is lining up behind/beside him. And I think that is a good thing. The last time OSU didn't have an undisputed stud at HB was after Clarett left and everybody thought Ross and Hall would be adequate fill-ins. Boy were we wrong. It wasn't until Pittman's sophomore year that OSU's running game got back on track. Until then however, that was some sh!tty OSU offense. I think Herron is the #1, but I don't know who else will be ready and I'm not sure it's going to be anybody that suited up this year and that scares me.

[Silver Bullet]

ohio state will miss beenie wells, he was a big part of why pryor had some success this season , saine and boom are not like beenie , but ohio state has jamal berry as a recruit for 2009 and he is good, word has it he is a soft verbal even though he had a great time at the osu michigan game, fla and miami were trying to get him..

Yeah, that stuff about Berry has been floating around alot on the OSU boards. Apparently he reaffirmed during his visit in November, but who knows. I would think that Beanie leaving would only solidify his commitment but who knows. Honestly, unless Pryor is able to complete passes down the field it won't matter if Barry Sanders was back there with him.

[Rockie]

They are one play away from having a walk on in as their qb, and quite frankly, I hope it happens in game one.

[Silver Bullet]

They are one play away from having a walk on in as their qb, and quite frankly, I hope it happens in game one.

Technically he's a walk-on, but he was once a top-ranked QB prospect that committed to OSU. He just chose baseball and the money over college football a few years ago. Be careful what you wish for....he's still a very good QB. He should have been starting over Boeckman and would have been if Boeckman wasn't a 6-year senior. He's got a terrific arm and can move in the pocket. He's not Pryor, but I think he fits better into OSU's system better than Pryor.

[1OSUNUT]

If Pryor was to go down in week one - we would still be very competitive and sure would not win only 3 games. The backup we have for next year has maybe the strongest arm since Art was a Buckeye. Unlike that team up North we don't put all our eggs in one basket then make excuses.

[tpilews]

And we were having such a great conversation until nut dropped by. Your "eggs in one basket" doesn't hold any weight:


One of the most common complaints among Michigan fans early in this year was that Rich Rodriguez put all of his eggs in one basket in terms of recruiting quarterbacks. Once Terrelle Pryor chose Ohio State instead of Michigan, a rough first year was sealed for the Rodriguez era. With the two teams squaring off this week, it's a good time to talk about the player who caused one of the most heated recruiting battles between the two schools in recent memory.

However, did Rodriguez really put all of his recruiting effort into one player, ignoring other possibilities at the position?

Terrelle Pryor
Pryor was the #1 overall recruit in the class of 2008, and given his production as a true freshman, it's easy to see why. Analysts said Pryor chose Ohio State over Michigan because being able to redshirt as a freshman (er... or not) and playing in a pro-style offense (er... or not) would be most beneficial to his eventual pro prospects. However, the more likely factor in his picking the Buckeyes was the relationship he developed with DeVier Posey and other OU commits.

Marqueis Gray
Gray was also a top prospect to the recruiting services, and an Army All-American. Gray came from a state (Indiana) that shares a border with Michigan, meaning he wouldn't have to travel too far to school if he did pick the Wolverines. However, Gray went with Minnesota, and Wolverine fans cried foul about Rodriguez's lack of effort in recruiting him. Fast forward a couple months, and Gray was unable to get through the NCAA clearinghouse, and was an academic casualty of Minnesota's highly-ranked class. Of course, Gray will play for the Gophers next year, but next year doesn't really help the 2008 Michigan team.

BJ Daniels
Daniels hails from Florida, one of Rodriguez's main recruiting pools. The Wolverines were on him heavily in January of 2008, but suddenly their pursuit of him cooled, though he continued to mention Michigan. Daniels ended up at UCF, and it is rumore that everything may not have been 100% compliant in his recruitment, particularly in regards to his demands. If that was indeed the case, you can't blame Rodriguez for not doing whatever it took to land him.

Already-committed Recruits
Though there were few available prospects out there by the time Rodriguez was established in Ann Arbor, there were certainly top-flight quarterbacks committed to other schools who might be good fits for the Michigan offense, no? It certainly stands to reason, especially considering the cases of Michael Shaw, Roy Roundtree, and Ricky Barnum, that Rodriguez did at least due diligence in giving a phone call to guys like Darrin Thomas (Oregon) and even Boo Williams (of "I almost beat Ohio State this year" fame).

Justin Feagin
That brings us to the prospect that Rodriguez did land, Justin Feagin. Of course, asking a true freshman to step in at quarterback any time is a difficult situation to put a player in, particularly one so highly thought of as a thrower that the recruiting services ranked him only as a defensive back. However, Feagin was the best Rich could land, and he certainly has worked hard and done everything he could to help Michigan - and you can't blame the kid for that effort not being enough to save his team.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

And we were having such a great conversation until nut dropped by. Your "eggs in one basket" doesn't hold any weight:

nut, how does it feel to be completely outclassed by a fellow OSU fan (Silver Bullet) who, in this particular thread, has been as respectful and classy as possible? Bullet was making conversation about both schools without trolling and causing a ruckus just to try and anger UM fans.

post after post you continue to foul the name and reputation of your buckeyes by making wolverines fans think that all OSU fans are as ignorant and biased as yourself. its no shock to me that you don't spend all your time on an OSU forum because you would be laughed at for your idiotic notions (such as that OSU's backup quarterback has the best arm on campus in years) and for constantly slobbing the figurative knob of jim tressel no matter what he does.

try to be unbiased and engaging for once; maybe add something new and factual to the board instead of just bitching and SHOWING EVERYONE HOW MUCH OF AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX YOU HAVE

just a thought...

although i am little curious how a thread about sam mcguffie could turn into a thread about how good OSU's backup QB (who will never see the field) hypothetically is. My guess is that he's not Matt Cassel...

or even no Matt Guitierrez... HA! go blue.

[MoellerLover69(LloydCarr)]

Mcguffie was my favorite guy on the team. I would kill to play for Michigan and don't understand why he's leaving. I've read things here and there on this site like he has to take care of his brother. If that's true then all the best to him. However, I think that most of us really don't know why he's leaving so I'm hesitant to simply wish him the best as he might have just spit a big fat loogy on all of us landing in Rich Rod's eye.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

If Pryor was to go down in week one - we would still be very competitive and sure would not win only 3 games. The backup we have for next year has maybe the strongest arm since Art was a Buckeye. Unlike that team up North we don't put all our eggs in one basket then make excuses.

Just curious what the excuse will be after the texas massacre. im sure you already have something in mind

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

Okay, let's try this again:

Silver Bullet,

What's the backfield look like for tuos next year?

like he said the same that played in the USC game...tool

[Sten Carlson]

If Pryor was to go down in week one - we would still be very competitive and sure would not win only 3 games. The backup we have for next year has maybe the strongest arm since Art was a Buckeye. Unlike that team up North we don't put all our eggs in one basket then make excuses.

Once again, you've proven your status as "Chief Moron"!

Michigan was only even on the TP's radar AFTER RR was announced as the new coach. I think RR knew that the chances were very slim that TP was going to become a Wolverine, but he made the calls and tried his best. The real issue is the fact that TP was an attention whore that wanted to be a topic of conversation/debate as long as possible -- I suspect he knew all along that he was going to choose OSU. Had he just come out and said so, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

Acutally, RR didn't have a much of a basket to put his eggs in. More to the point, Carr put all his eggs in the Henne/Mallett basket, and got burned, which in turn burned the entire 2008 TEAM!

As I have said before, where is the stable of OBs, no matter the style, that could at least throw the ball father than 11 yards? Henne was the four-year starter, but why weren't Carr and his boys recruiting others? I know, Mallett, but after him?

Look at USC, I mean it seems like they could go down to their 3rd string and still beat the crap out of pretty much everyone!

Again, in my opinion, the bottom line is (especially considering the news coming out that Carr didn't like former players coming back and his lack of public support for RR) that Carr, although a good man, has some ego issues and intentionally or negligently sabotaged Michigan Football.

Don't heap this on RR, and if you insist upon doing so, realize that he's done pretty well to make up for his mistake by getting Forcier and Beaver to not only commit, but enroll early! His basket is now whole, and we'll see how he does from here on out -- to judge him on last year alone is moronic! Although, I would expect nothing less from you Nut!

Go Blue!

[1OSUNUT]

I happen to think OSU is going to beat Texas - call me crazy.

Just like the USC game, there will be no excuse if we happen to lose. The Buckeyes continue to play upper tier teams in an effort to get to the top. There is not many teams (if any) that would of beat the 06 Gators, 07 Tigers, 08 Trojans amd maybe the 08 Longhorns. There is not one bad team listed there. The Buckeyes cannot be as bad as many of you think if they keep getting to play against teams of that caliber.

How you can say anything about the Buckeyes when they are going to a BCS bowl (again) is beyond me. The gap between OSU and Michigan has never been larger. I totally expect OSU to roll into AA and win again next year.

[The Michigan Man]

per rivals:
http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=888262

also we had TWO yes, TWO players on the Rivals All-Big 10 first + second teams:
First Team:
P Zoltan Mesko
Second Team:
DE Brandon Graham

hey, i guess it could be worse, we could be Indiana. (zing)

I wish Sam well, and hope that he finds success without any more concussions.

On the bright side, RR now has another scholarship to give out for 2009!

[tpilews]

like he said the same that played in the USC game...tool

The reason I asked a tuos fan specifically, was because I didnt' want to get a "nobody important, they all suck" comment from a UM fan. I wanted to get a real answer from someone that follows the team and not some bullsh*it response.

[LAMfan]

Good to Sam, I hope all goes well for him. I hope he avoids getting hammered, but he appears to play with the toughness of a 230lb back in a 180lb body, not good for longevity.

[tpilews]

I totally expect OSU to roll into AA and win again next year.

Well, of course you do because you are a buckeye fan. Why would anyone expect you to think otherwise?

[bigboyBlue]

Good to Sam, I hope all goes well for him. I hope he avoids getting hammered, but he appears to play with the toughness of a 230lb back in a 180lb body, not good for longevity.

Well, if he ends up playing in the Big 'what defense' 12, at least getting hammered by the D won't be a problem anymore!

[1OSUNUT]

I wish him well. Im sure he will thrive playing for an established team - not a rebuild. It's always good when you see your rivals big recruit leave after one year. If he is truely gone it will put an end to the McGuffie this McGuffie that chatter that took over this board during the Summer. It is sweet that his last memory of Michigan football was getting blasted by a Buckeye in Columbus. I just hope he can remember the hit.

[byebyelloyd]

nut, how does it feel to be completely outclassed by a fellow OSU fan (Silver Bullet) who, in this particular thread, has been as respectful and classy as possible? Bullet was making conversation about both schools without trolling and causing a ruckus just to try and anger UM fans.

post after post you continue to foul the name and reputation of your buckeyes by making wolverines fans think that all OSU fans are as ignorant and biased as yourself. its no shock to me that you don't spend all your time on an OSU forum because you would be laughed at for your idiotic notions (such as that OSU's backup quarterback has the best arm on campus in years) and for constantly slobbing the figurative knob of jim tressel no matter what he does.

try to be unbiased and engaging for once; maybe add something new and factual to the board instead of just bitching and SHOWING EVERYONE HOW MUCH OF AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX YOU HAVE

just a thought...

although i am little curious how a thread about sam mcguffie could turn into a thread about how good OSU's backup QB (who will never see the field) hypothetically is. My guess is that he's not Matt Cassel...

or even no Matt Guitierrez... HA! go blue.

yep, the 1osuPUSSY train is back on schedule, what a fucking putz.

[byebyelloyd]

I happen to think OSU is going to beat Texas - call me crazy.

Just like the USC game, there will be no excuse if we happen to lose. The Buckeyes continue to play upper tier teams in an effort to get to the top. There is not many teams (if any) that would of beat the 06 Gators, 07 Tigers, 08 Trojans amd maybe the 08 Longhorns. There is not one bad team listed there. The Buckeyes cannot be as bad as many of you think if they keep getting to play against teams of that caliber.

How you can say anything about the Buckeyes when they are going to a BCS bowl (again) is beyond me. The gap between OSU and Michigan has never been larger. I totally expect OSU to roll into AA and win again next year.

expect in one hand and shit in the other, theres no way in hell ohio state wins another against michigan as long as pryor CAN NOT pass. as far as texas, well pussy bitch, you said the same thing about usc, penn state, lsu, florida, texas before, what a pussy putz.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

The reason I asked a tuos fan specifically, was because I didnt' want to get a "nobody important, they all suck" comment from a UM fan. I wanted to get a real answer from someone that follows the team and not some bullsh*it response.

And it wasnt a bullshit response it was the truth, the same rb's that played against USC (herron, saine) are what they got next year, and they arent anything special. sorry next time you ask a question open for responses ill know thats not what your looking for.

[BlueSpread]

I'm gonna miss Sam. He played with reckless abandon, a fine quality to have if you weigh about 30 lbs. more than he does. Division 1 may be too much for his body to handle.

[bigboyBlue]

For those still looking for closure...

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081213/SPORTS0201/812130431/1435/SPORTS07

Good luck kid. You'll always be a Wolverine, because you wanted to be here.

[rickyleach]

1osunut , on your views of ohio state ,on if pryor would go down, you wouldnt be as bad as what michigan was in 2008 , your correct because michigan didnt have enough talent for the type of system rr is running , but i would say osu might go 6 and 6 and that would be funny as hell.

[Inflames]

I wish Sam the best. I enjoyed watching him play as the one bright spot on a very dark year for UM.

If i had to bet I would say he will go to A&M.

[RealwomenwearMaizeNBlue]

Good luck to Sam. I'm so bummed about him leaving. He will do well where ever he goes. Things must be really bad at home for him to have to leave. I wish him well on & off the field.

[chad]

i always thought Sam (great white hype) was overrated as a RB. if he was willing to move to slot WR he possibly couldve excelled as a Wes Welker/Tim Dwight type of player

[bigboyBlue]

i always thought Sam (great white hype) was overrated as a RB. if he was willing to move to slot WR he possibly couldve excelled as a Wes Welker/Tim Dwight type of player

Welker looks way bulkier than The Guff. Sam needs some serious weight to go alongwith a change of position.

[chad]

Welker looks way bulkier than The Guff. Sam needs some serious weight to go alongwith a change of position.

he does huh???

Wes Welker 5'9" 185 lbs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wes_Welker

he doesn't look any bulkier to me

[chad]

Welker looks way bulkier than The Guff. Sam needs some serious weight to go alongwith a change of position.

also i'm not saying he's an all-american slot WR as a freshman i'm saying his potential is better as a WR (good hands, better in open field) as opposed to RB (can't break tackles, doesn't push pile, doesn't let holes develop)

[bigboyBlue]

he does huh???

Wes Welker 5'9" 185 lbs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wes_Welker

he doesn't look any bulkier to me

And the Guff is 6', 185 lbs. I guess I know why he looks bulkier now, my bad. Those silver pants ain't exactly flattering either.

[chad]

And the Guff is 6', 185 lbs. I guess I know why he looks bulkier now, my bad. Those silver pants ain't exactly flattering either.


he might be listed at 6' but ain't no way he's 6'.

[Don Unverferth]

For those still looking for closure...

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081213/SPORTS0201/812130431/1435/SPORTS07

Good luck kid. You'll always be a Wolverine, because you wanted to be here.

Poor Sam. He didn't even have a chance to hurdle Big Ten players.

Honestly, I believe Austin Spitler is at fault for this decision...:D

[rickyleach]

on 1osunuts saying he hopes maguffie remembers his last hit, how sad is this ,the kid is leaving ,not because he doesnt love michigan ,but for family reasons , and now you have a looooser like like 1OSUNUT CUM DRINKING IDIOT SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT HIM, NUT WHY DONT YOU DO ALL OF US A FAVOR AND LEAVE THIS SITE, YOUR NEW NAME SHOULD BE 1TRESSELSLEFTNUT

[1OSUNUT]

on 1osunuts saying he hopes maguffie remembers his last hit, how sad is this ,the kid is leaving ,not because he doesnt love michigan ,but for family reasons , and now you have a looooser like like 1OSUNUT CUM DRINKING IDIOT SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT HIM, NUT WHY DONT YOU DO ALL OF US A FAVOR AND LEAVE THIS SITE, YOUR NEW NAME SHOULD BE 1TRESSELSLEFTNUT

This coming from a guy who was praying Beanie was out for the year ? I never said I wished him harm or bad luck. Unlike a few Michigan fans who said during the game this year "Since we can't beat the Buckeyes, maybe we can hurt a few of them". I'm actually glad he is leaving. When I said he was to small to play in the Big Ten - nobody agreed. He proved that he cannot handle the hits that the Big Ten dishes out - thats OK. I wish him well in D2 or D3 and in life. I do however like the fact that his only memory of the Buckeye game was that of - getting knocked out.

[The Michigan Man]

I do however like the fact that his only memory of the Buckeye game was that of - getting knocked out.

That is one of the most low class, unsportsmanlike statements I've read in here in a long time. You like seeing 18 year olds getting knocked unconscious? That is pathetic, even for you.

[GoDeepHammer]

That is one of the most low class, unsportsmanlike statements I've read in here in a long time. You like seeing 18 year olds getting knocked unconscious? That is pathetic, even for you.

This from the same guy that was calling others classless when they talked about Beanie Wells getting hurt and being out. Nice, really classy nut.

[BBA1994]

This from the same guy that was calling others classless when they talked about Beanie Wells getting hurt and being out. Nice, really classy nut.

No one has ever accused nut of being classy. However he has been accused of walking around with tressy's wanker in his mouth.

[The Michigan Man]

No one has ever accused nut of being classy. However he has been accused of walking around with tressy's wanker in his mouth.

Honestly - you've probably dropped that line, in one variation or another, 100s of times, and it never gets old! Lol...

[byebyelloyd]

on 1osunuts saying he hopes maguffie remembers his last hit, how sad is this ,the kid is leaving ,not because he doesnt love michigan ,but for family reasons , and now you have a looooser like like 1OSUNUT CUM DRINKING IDIOT SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT HIM, NUT WHY DONT YOU DO ALL OF US A FAVOR AND LEAVE THIS SITE, YOUR NEW NAME SHOULD BE 1TRESSELSLEFTNUT

yeah he was crying like a bitch when well's yeast infection flared up, he's a fucking pussy who can run his mouth and not take anything in return.

[bluefan]

No one has ever accused nut of being classy. However he has been accused of walking around with tressy's wanker in his mouth.

Yessss! I admire your tenacity in all things anti NUT.

[bluefan]

Honestly - you've probably dropped that line, in one variation or another, 100s of times, and it never gets old! Lol...

Glad someone else appreciates his commitment to excellence.

[tpilews]

I love BBA's tenacity as well. I seriously laugh my *ass off everytime I read it. I love seeing his different variations of the same thing. Just priceless.