Please no hijack.......Discussion about UM football...

[patient77]

I'd like to actually have ONE thread on this board that isn't hijacked by an OSU troll. This thread is about UM football, not a chance for the trolls to illustrate their obsession with UM football by discussing OSU.

Please keep gems like, "Your team defense sucks, you are exposed, we are gonna destroy you, UM is on borrowed time, TP is unstoppable" to whichever thread has already been hijacked. Please keep responses like "4-0" out to any hijacks as if I have to read another back and forth penis waving contest on this message board, I am officially through. Lastly, I understand everyone has opinions, but please refrain from posting opinion as undeniable fact just because you believe it to be true.

So here goes and more knowledgable fans than myself hopefully can shed some light....

I've always had the impression that Rich Rodriguez's teams never had dominant defenses. Most of the times, he would field an average defense and just try to outscore his opponent. His losses would always come from a QB being banged up or the offense being out of sync. I don't remember West Virginia ever winning a game 13-10 with a dominant defensive struggle. Does this concern anyone else? I am excited to see so many points on the board, especially after the Carr era. However, I think it will be near impossible to reach our goal of a National Championship without a better than average defense.

I understand that this defense is young and Rich hasn't had the opportunity to recruit the defensive personnel needed. BUT, are there any indications that he has them in the pipeline with future recruits? Can we really expect him to focus on a 5 star LB over a 5 star WR if all else is the same?

Has Will Campbell shown signs of dominance in practice or on the limited snaps he's had? How did Craig Roh impress the coaches so much to get a starting job as a true freshman?

The main reason I am thrilled by the Carr to Rodriguez coaching change is that I feel it makes us nationally competitive. Let's say the BCS gets changed to a playoff system. I would have had ZERO, I repeat, ZERO confidence in Carr leading us to multiple wins in a playoff system. The teams in 2006 (?), 1997 would not have beaten multiple top ranked teams in a playoff system. I do, however, feel that Rich is the only big 10 coach that will be able to hang with Texas/Florida/USC in back to back weekends now. That is the biggest reason I like the coaching change, simply that Carr may be able to pull out a big win once in a while, but expecting him to gameplan against top teams back to back weekends, no chance.

I'd love to hear you share your thoughts, whether you agree or disagree. I would like to discuss other aspects of our team, but am afraid to get too many thoughts out there all at once.

Thanks.

patient77

[Vested_Interest]

Patient77,

My opinion regarding the Wolverines: well, the Buckeyes have certainly played some stellar defense so far this season; and it's nice to be able to lean on that ...while we're waiting for a clear 'offensive identity' to emerge.

Hope this helps. :D

[GoBlue21]

I'd like to actually have ONE thread on this board that isn't hijacked by an OSU troll. This thread is about UM football, not a chance for the trolls to illustrate their obsession with UM football by discussing OSU.

Please keep gems like, "Your team defense sucks, you are exposed, we are gonna destroy you, UM is on borrowed time, TP is unstoppable" to whichever thread has already been hijacked. Please keep responses like "4-0" out to any hijacks as if I have to read another back and forth penis waving contest on this message board, I am officially through. Lastly, I understand everyone has opinions, but please refrain from posting opinion as undeniable fact just because you believe it to be true.

So here goes and more knowledgable fans than myself hopefully can shed some light....

I've always had the impression that Rich Rodriguez's teams never had dominant defenses. Most of the times, he would field an average defense and just try to outscore his opponent. His losses would always come from a QB being banged up or the offense being out of sync. I don't remember West Virginia ever winning a game 13-10 with a dominant defensive struggle. Does this concern anyone else? I am excited to see so many points on the board, especially after the Carr era. However, I think it will be near impossible to reach our goal of a National Championship without a better than average defense.

I understand that this defense is young and Rich hasn't had the opportunity to recruit the defensive personnel needed. BUT, are there any indications that he has them in the pipeline with future recruits? Can we really expect him to focus on a 5 star LB over a 5 star WR if all else is the same?

Has Will Campbell shown signs of dominance in practice or on the limited snaps he's had? How did Craig Roh impress the coaches so much to get a starting job as a true freshman?

The main reason I am thrilled by the Carr to Rodriguez coaching change is that I feel it makes us nationally competitive. Let's say the BCS gets changed to a playoff system. I would have had ZERO, I repeat, ZERO confidence in Carr leading us to multiple wins in a playoff system. The teams in 2006 (?), 1997 would not have beaten multiple top ranked teams in a playoff system. I do, however, feel that Rich is the only big 10 coach that will be able to hang with Texas/Florida/USC in back to back weekends now. That is the biggest reason I like the coaching change, simply that Carr may be able to pull out a big win once in a while, but expecting him to gameplan against top teams back to back weekends, no chance.

I'd love to hear you share your thoughts, whether you agree or disagree. I would like to discuss other aspects of our team, but am afraid to get too many thoughts out there all at once.

Thanks.

patient77

Nice post patient77 and welcome aboard!

I'm pretty sure RichRod knows that the defense isn't very strong this year. They lack depth at crucial positions, a little undersized 'right now' and had 3 different coordinators in 3 years. I personally believe that all three of those problems can be fixed. I think Greg Robinson is the best coordinator of the 3 and will start bringing in top recruits with his resume. I mean, the guy has 2 super bowl rings as a NFL DC, why wouldn't kids wanna come and learn from that? RichRod is a offensive minded coach, but now he has GR to be the defensive guy. You have to remember, 2 of our biggest recruits last year (JT Turner and Will Campbell) are defensive guys that haven't seen the field yet. Brandon Smith, Vlad Emilien, and a few other haven't played defense either. The must have a plan for these kids because there is no way these kids can be that bad not to be playing right now...

These kids will get bigger and stronger as they continue in Barwis' S&C program. I believe Michigan won't have your typical Alan Branch, Terrance Taylor, Gabe Watson size defensive lineman. They are going after guys with size but most importantly quickness! Maybe GR changes that and does recruit the 'big boys'. We all knew the defense, mainly defensive line, would be the hiccup. They've shown some good signs and they've shown some bad signs. It's a 'bend-don't-break' defense and yesterday was a prime example. Michigan's defense looked bad until they got into the redzone, then they SHUTDOWN Indiana and held them to 4 field goal and 1 missed field goal. People don't realize that, but that was HUGE for the outcome of the game.

Michigan is still young! This is only RichRod's 2nd year and Greg Robinson's 1st. The biggest thing I took from the game was, even though Michigan is young, they STILL fought through a hard victory. Tate was banged up but this kid just has ice in his veins and definitely doesn't like to lose. The defense stepped up when they needed to even though they were on the field A LOT. Some of that i blame on the defense, but some of it I blame on the offense as well. That was the problem with the defense last year, they were on the field the entire game because Michigan led the NATION in 3 and outs. You have to give the defense a breather, Indiana has a pretty good offense and they were throwing EVERYTHING at Michigan.

I think Michigan is going to be just fine. They've already won more games than last year, 4-0. People say they are 'OVER-RATED' when they didn't have a one single vote in the pre-season top 25. Be different if Michigan was ranked in the top 10 or something, but that's not the case. You have to be RATED to be OVER-RATED. They are ranked now because they are undefeated in 4 contests. As people would say 'a win is a win'. Keep on truckin' Maize and Blue...

Go Blue!!!

[Vested_Interest]

P77,

I forgot to mention in my previous post that the Buckeyes have apparently reloaded nicely in the kicking game as well.

[amazinblue]

Patient,

I believe that RR is the right guy to drive the offensive philosophy and motivate this team to excel. RR has looked to others to lead the defensive efforts of the teams he's been a part of - WVU as you noted. RR's smart enough to realize what he has and what needs work. The O is developing smoothly - and one of the strengths of this team is the youth in its roster. The cultural change that's happened over the last 20 or so months in Ann Arbor has been huge - absolutely huge. I believe the press reports and overall "pessimistic" outlook by various media outlets as well as the reporting by Rosenberg really brought the team together. That was demonstrated on the field the first two games - the last two - hmmm... they do create a concern. Can RR maintain this tight cohesive unit when adversity doesn't surround them.

Though we're young on O - and relatively inexperienced, we have some solid potential. We can move the ball on the ground and through the air - but, we're still seeing too many three and outs and putting our D in awkward and difficult positions. This O will continue to develop and mature - with time. There's a lot in the playbook that we haven't seen yet - and when we struggle, as we did against Indiana - it can be painful to watch. However, I do prefer watching this offense when compared to run, run, pass, and punt - which was far too evident in prior years.

The D needs attention. The aggressiveness and solid tackling which was displayed the first two weeks seems to have gone on a bit of a vacation. I believe that GR is the right guy to help improve the D. But, we are also relatiely inexperienced with GR's scheme - and there are numerous plays where it's showing up. Many have said that the size of the D line is what hurts us. I don't know if that is true - yes, we are giving up size - but, we need to counter that with agility- speed and strength - as well as with solid play from the LB's, and a more aggressive blitz package that puts pressure on the QB. I don't care where the blitz comes from, but three down lineman aren't going to apply the pressure that's needed to force opposing QB's out of their rhythm.

Recruiting. We have identified a lot of talent on the O side of the ball - and, the D does need attention. If I'm GR (and I'm not) - I go to RR and tell him these are the players we have to go after - and get - NOW. We can't afford another recruiting class that leans as solidly toward the offense as the last two have. And, I believe that RR is really only responsible for the incoming class of true freshmen - since the prior class was essentially recruited by Carr's staff.

What I like about this team is the aggressiveness, the passion, the intensity, and execution - when these traits are present. I do believe that's the foundation of Michigan football and RR / GR are bringing it back.

The team must maintain its focus - one play, one series, one quarter, and one game at a time. If we look ahead - we'll most likely falter. This week's a solid test - I'm sure that Sparty is looking to turn their season around and what coud be a better way of doing that than with a win against their arch rival.

And, prior teams and a playoff. I don't necessarily agree. Carr could get the team up - as was indicative of the '97 squad. However, it seemed as though teams under Carr rarely exceeded their expectations. I do believe that RR and future Michigan teams will - exceed expectations, that is. And, I do feel good about what Michigan will be able to do in a year or two's time against the upper echelon.

[byebyelloyd]

Patient77,

My opinion regarding the Wolverines: well, the Buckeyes have certainly played some stellar defense so far this season; and it's nice to be able to lean on that ...while we're waiting for a clear 'offensive identity' to emerge.

Hope this helps. :D

kind of like my take on the buckeyes. michigan's defense is going to give up some plays, but the offense will score several points on every team they play this year, bar none.

[Wolvrin704]

Patient,

I have to agree about RR not being known for defenses, but I'm willing to cut some slack for now because at WVU he had enough trouble just recruiting skill position talent. I believe the last few years he was getting some talent on that side of he ball though. I would like to believe that being at UM will afford him the ability to get the defensive talent now instead of later especially with a renowned DC like Robinson.

I am in total agreement about being confident in his ability to lead this team into contention either in the BCS format or in a playoff format were one to ever be conceived, with that said at present we have to outscore our opponents rather than just stop them. But the defense does still retain a lot of Carr/English recruits as well, not sure if that really has as much to do with it or not.

Lastly, I see your request lasted a whole 1 post as one of our long time missing trolls has reappeared and made his presence known in this thread of all places. I really do wish that when such a request is made that they would honor it but its beyond their capability to understand such things.

[Blue In Ohio]

P77,

I forgot to mention in my previous post that the Buckeyes have apparently reloaded nicely in the kicking game as well.

Kicker has the makings of another Nugent.

[patient77]

Basically, my concern is that we become the next Texas Tech or Hawaii, focusing squarely on outscoring our opponents to the detriment of our defense. It is an exciting brand of football, don't get me wrong, but once real competition shows up, the flaws on the defensive side are quickly exposed.

I understand that it is still early in Rodriguez years, but I'd love for us to focus recruiting in the secondary rather that our offensive skill positions. Hopefully Robinson is our guy and more of the top recruits see the opportunities our school presents. However, I haven't heard of any great recruits from the defensive side of the ball.

[Rockie]

Patient,

I believe that RR is the right guy to drive the offensive philosophy and motivate this team to excel. RR has looked to others to lead the defensive efforts of the teams he's been a part of - WVU as you noted. RR's smart enough to realize what he has and what needs work. The O is developing smoothly - and one of the strengths of this team is the youth in its roster. The cultural change that's happened over the last 20 or so months in Ann Arbor has been huge - absolutely huge. I believe the press reports and overall "pessimistic" outlook by various media outlets as well as the reporting by Rosenberg really brought the team together. That was demonstrated on the field the first two games - the last two - hmmm... they do create a concern. Can RR maintain this tight cohesive unit when adversity doesn't surround them.

Though we're young on O - and relatively inexperienced, we have some solid potential. We can move the ball on the ground and through the air - but, we're still seeing too many three and outs and putting our D in awkward and difficult positions. This O will continue to develop and mature - with time. There's a lot in the playbook that we haven't seen yet - and when we struggle, as we did against Indiana - it can be painful to watch. However, I do prefer watching this offense when compared to run, run, pass, and punt - which was far too evident in prior years.

The D needs attention. The aggressiveness and solid tackling which was displayed the first two weeks seems to have gone on a bit of a vacation. I believe that GR is the right guy to help improve the D. But, we are also relatiely inexperienced with GR's scheme - and there are numerous plays where it's showing up. Many have said that the size of the D line is what hurts us. I don't know if that is true - yes, we are giving up size - but, we need to counter that with agility- speed and strength - as well as with solid play from the LB's, and a more aggressive blitz package that puts pressure on the QB. I don't care where the blitz comes from, but three down lineman aren't going to apply the pressure that's needed to force opposing QB's out of their rhythm.

Recruiting. We have identified a lot of talent on the O side of the ball - and, the D does need attention. If I'm GR (and I'm not) - I go to RR and tell him these are the players we have to go after - and get - NOW. We can't afford another recruiting class that leans as solidly toward the offense as the last two have. And, I believe that RR is really only responsible for the incoming class of true freshmen - since the prior class was essentially recruited by Carr's staff.

What I like about this team is the aggressiveness, the passion, the intensity, and execution - when these traits are present. I do believe that's the foundation of Michigan football and RR / GR are bringing it back.

The team must maintain its focus - one play, one series, one quarter, and one game at a time. If we look ahead - we'll most likely falter. This week's a solid test - I'm sure that Sparty is looking to turn their season around and what coud be a better way of doing that than with a win against their arch rival.

And, prior teams and a playoff. I don't necessarily agree. Carr could get the team up - as was indicative of the '97 squad. However, it seemed as though teams under Carr rarely exceeded their expectations. I do believe that RR and future Michigan teams will - exceed expectations, that is. And, I do feel good about what Michigan will be able to do in a year or two's time against the upper echelon.

I could answer this by saying we are in on a lot of people and we are going to see a huge recruiting weekend when we play Ohio State, but my best answer is for you to buy a membership to Scout, because Sam and Tom do a great job and to go to wtka.com daily and pull up podcast and to than go to Michigan Insiders and pull up recruiting roundup. I would also go to Mgoblog.com and check out what Brain says on either Tuesday or Wednesdays on his recruiting trails.
Happy trails

[Vested_Interest]

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Brian Rolle for Heisman!

[Buzz]

RichRod is an offensive coach and has stated that he looks to his DC to get the defense ready while monitoring the progress periodically. Robinson is a great fit for this type of arrangement IMO because he has already been a head coach before. But looking at how RichRod and Robinson has the positions and packages broken down on defense; alot of diversity is needed.

There's speed rushing ends, nose tackles and defensive tackling positions along with the quick. So I believe that the big three hundred pound lineman will continue to be recruited by Michigan. Some of the defensive guys that RichRod talked into committing ended up going elsewhere...so that hurt the program's defensive progression.

It looks like some of the issues I see on defense is coaching...cause they're not accounting for all the players on the opposing offense, like the H back or the qb on the option plays. Maybe Robinson is telling them to do one thing and they end up doing something different (this is what probably happens more times than not), cause it's hard to believe that if it's 3 and 5 a coach would call for the corners to play seven yards off the receivers cause that's an automatic 1st down.

If Coach Robinson and his staff can turn this defense into something more than a speed bump they're going to be able to dominate teams if recruiting continues to go well and if the players can successfully progress through the system. I wonder though if RichRod wants to reshirt some of the defensive rookies on the team.

[UM_Addict]

I think that the offense is a good bit ahead of where many of us thought it would be this year. It wouldn't be fair to expect that the defense would follow suit just because it would be convenient. The thing that has impressed me up to this point are the adjustments that the defensive coaching staff has made. Both during the game and at the half. In years past if the coaching staff seemed incapable of making successful adjustments. I want to give Greg Robinson a year or so to get some more recruits in to the fold and let the strength program build some size on the guys we have now. Right now it's build more for speed and that's not necessarily going to be the best IMO come November especially after dealing with the grind of the rest of the season. Overall, I have been VERY pleased with what I've seen... do I now have an unrealistic expectation of Michigan winning all of their games sure but deep down I'm really just thrilled to see amount of growth from year 1 to this point in year 2.

GO BLUE

[rickyleach]

michigans d is a work in progress, rr isnt going to sit on scoring 35 per game and giving up 35, that group will get better, once rr gets the players he needs on d , its lites out for the rest of the big10

[patient77]

I think that the offense is a good bit ahead of where many of us thought it would be this year. It wouldn't be fair to expect that the defense would follow suit just because it would be convenient. The thing that has impressed me up to this point are the adjustments that the defensive coaching staff has made. Both during the game and at the half. In years past if the coaching staff seemed incapable of making successful adjustments. I want to give Greg Robinson a year or so to get some more recruits in to the fold and let the strength program build some size on the guys we have now. Right now it's build more for speed and that's not necessarily going to be the best IMO come November especially after dealing with the grind of the rest of the season. Overall, I have been VERY pleased with what I've seen... do I now have an unrealistic expectation of Michigan winning all of their games sure but deep down I'm really just thrilled to see amount of growth from year 1 to this point in year 2.

GO BLUE

Very good points UM Addict. I guess since the offense has made such dramatic improvements over last year, part of me is disappointed that the defensive side of the ball hasn't done the same. It is unrealistic as Greg Robinson really hasn't had any time to develop his players, nor recruit the ones for his defensive schemes. It's been such a long time that we've had a defense worth admiring that I guess I've grown somewhat impatient.

How about receivers? Do you guys see impact wideouts the likes of Manningham, Terrell, Toomer, Streets coming to our spread offense? I always liked the size and hands of the UM receivers of the past. None had blazing speed, but with a strong running game, the play action pass set up the deep balls and these guys were great at catching the long ball. I am concerned that only speed is being recruited at the slot and receiver position as opposed to route running and hands. I am skeptical about the receivers on our squad such as Odoms and Grady. They may be fast and can run after the catch, but they need to have the hands to catch the ball first.

Thoughts?

[Vested_Interest]

How about receivers?

Well, apart from Sanzenbacher, Posey, and Small, Chris Carter's kid has shown some promise for the future. All in all, I'd say the Buckeyes are pretty solid at that position.

[GoBlue21]

Very good points UM Addict. I guess since the offense has made such dramatic improvements over last year, part of me is disappointed that the defensive side of the ball hasn't done the same. It is unrealistic as Greg Robinson really hasn't had any time to develop his players, nor recruit the ones for his defensive schemes. It's been such a long time that we've had a defense worth admiring that I guess I've grown somewhat impatient.

How about receivers? Do you guys see impact wideouts the likes of Manningham, Terrell, Toomer, Streets coming to our spread offense? I always liked the size and hands of the UM receivers of the past. None had blazing speed, but with a strong running game, the play action pass set up the deep balls and these guys were great at catching the long ball. I am concerned that only speed is being recruited at the slot and receiver position as opposed to route running and hands. I am skeptical about the receivers on our squad such as Odoms and Grady. They may be fast and can run after the catch, but they need to have the hands to catch the ball first.

Thoughts?

Ricardo Miller and Jeremy Jackson are good size WR's coming in next year with speed. Add them with Stokes, Odoms, Grady, T Robinson, Stonum, Roundtree and Michigan will be just fine in the speed category.

[1OSUNUT]

RR came from a conference where there was not much put into good defense. Many of the games looked like a video game in the Big East. The thought was to just out score the other team in a shootout. That is not going to work in the Big Ten. many of the teams are set up to stop the run - which is RR's bread and butter. Michigan is not going to score 30+ points every week - so he is going to have to address the defense.

[patient77]

RR came from a conference where there was not much put into good defense. Many of the games looked like a video game in the Big East. The thought was to just out score the other team in a shootout. That is not going to work in the Big Ten. many of the teams are set up to stop the run - which is RR's bread and butter. Michigan is not going to score 30+ points every week - so he is going to have to address the defense.

There you go again hijacking another thread with your useless ejaculations. Thank you for your great insight that shootouts won't work in the Big Ten. Also, thank you for your great knowledge that Big Ten teams are set up to stop the run. Most of all, thank you so much for pointing out that we won't score 30 plus points a game.
Those are some great insights you have there. Rich will have to address the defense... Hmm. No shit sherlock. Has anyone said anything in this thread to the contrary? Please, I get dumber every time I read anything you post. Please keep your repetitous garbage to one of the other 15 threads you pathetically hijack. Do you actually think typing your biased opinion over and over in as many threads as possible make them true? Cuz your track record of statements and predictions ever since your arrival are abysmal. Out of respect for actual members of this forum with any credibility, please refrain from repeating the exact same garbage in this thread that you do in all the others.

[1OSUNUT]

Please tell me how that is hijacking a thread ?

[byebyelloyd]

RR came from a conference where there was not much put into good defense. Many of the games looked like a video game in the Big East. The thought was to just out score the other team in a shootout. That is not going to work in the Big Ten. many of the teams are set up to stop the run - which is RR's bread and butter. Michigan is not going to score 30+ points every week - so he is going to have to address the defense.

any proof whatsoever about michigans scoring offense? no pussy, i didn't think so. all you have is pussy wishes and false dreams.

[patient77]

Well, apart from Sanzenbacher, Posey, and Small, Chris Carter's kid has shown some promise for the future. All in all, I'd say the Buckeyes are pretty solid at that position.
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[RADRACING]

The D line is not only shallow as far as depth, but seems to get pushed around like no D line ever at UM. UM D line has never been this thin, not sure it is being addressed, Should there be concern? I'm not sure there should be as long as RR can outscore the opponents.

[patient77]

Please tell me how that is hijacking a thread ?

Let's see, where to begin:

1. Nobody in this thread predicted Michigan would score 30+ points, so your claim that we expect to, holds no water... Sure we're happy that our offense puts up a ton more points than last year, but not one post refers to our defense being dominant. Fail....

2. "I've always had the impression that Rich Rodriguez's teams never had dominant defenses. Most of the times, he would field an average defense and just try to outscore his opponent. His losses would always come from a QB being banged up or the offense being out of sync. I don't remember West Virginia ever winning a game 13-10 with a dominant defensive struggle. Does this concern anyone else? I am excited to see so many points on the board, especially after the Carr era. However, I think it will be near impossible to reach our goal of a National Championship without a better than average defense." From my original post.

So are you basically rewording exactly what I wrote, except with your own original insight that this is not going to work in the Big Ten? As you can tell, this lack of defense and just trying to put up points is a concern of most of us. Your opinion that, "That is not going to work in the Big Ten. many of the teams are set up to stop the run - which is RR's bread and butter." may not be a hijack, but any details to support your argument other than your predictions being correct perhaps 10% of the time? In a debate, one could argue that so far with a workable QB in his system, Rich Rod is 1-0 outscoring Big Ten opponents. We won't know if he can simply outscore Big Ten opponents each week, but let's wait till he loses one before we simply dismiss that possibility.

3. Perhaps your post wasn't a total hijack, and for that I stand corrected. I guess I just lump most trolls into the same category and should have addressed the Vested Sweater first. However,

"Not as much as I was laughing at your defense getting punked by lowly Indiana."
"My bad. How about team defense."
"All you guys worry about is offense this and offense that. Why don't you talk about what kind of defense you should run. When the offense gets stopped - which will happen in the next few weeks, then... "
"When will he focus of Defense,Defense, Defense ? "
"You know Michigan is living on borrowed time. The schedule will be getting tougher and the horrible defense and offense of blunders will have to go on the road. This will be the the last... "
" Your going to lose every game because the defense will not be able to stop or cover anybody."
"You need a defense and a defensive line - really bad. Just remember you have yet to play a good team. "
"Whatever. How is that defense ? Nuff said. "
"What planet are you from. How can you watch that Michigan defense play today... "
"Sure stop the run. That is something that tiny ass defensive line will not be able to do all year. Arm tackles will not work in the upcoming weeks. What do you guys work on in the off season ? "
"Not as tired as Illinois's did. The Buckeyes played outstanding defense today. Something you guys would know nothing about. "
"Back to back shutouts - is Michigan able to shutout anybody with that defense - NO.
"Teams sure will not be afraid to play that big bad Michigan defense. Tate also looks marginal at best under... "
"The Bucks are deep on the defensive line - just like I said. The defense should carry the Buckeyes for the next five weeks as the offense finds itself. Michigan on the other hand has to score a ton... "
"Yeah,Yeah - we heard the same thing last year and the year before under English. RR is not a defensive coach - he only cares about offense. How will Michigan stop the bigger more powerful teams that... "

These are your posts regarding the UM defense since 7:00 PM yesterday. We get it, you don't think our defense is very good. How many times do you have to repeat that? We get it..... I guess we should praise jesus that you actually posted this into a thread that had to do with UM defense, unlike the many other's that you hijacked with your brilliant revelation that our defense needs work.

Understand, or should I post in shorter sentences so you can comprehend?

Cliff notes:

The same thing doesn't have to be repeated over and over 15 times in a 24 hour period. We got the message the first time, "1osunut doesn't think our defense is very good"

patient77

[RADRACING]

So basically you are saying UM D sucks and OSU offense sucks, both are probably true statments.

[The Michigan Man]

In the second half, Michigan corrected most of its defensive issue. Aside from the big run play allowed, the defense was solid and only allowed a FG.

And really, if the trolls are looking at this game and trying to speculate how Michigan will play against tUOS - Chappell is twice the QB TP is, his coach actually trusts him to throw the ball, not putting up ZERO passing yards for an entire half. How many teams in FBS have failed to pass a single yard up in a half, rain or no rain? JT is scared to death of TPs chicken wing and decision making. I'm sure your WRs are just thrilled to play on a team that will not pass...

[GoBlue21]

Please tell me how that is hijacking a thread ?

From patient77 opening statement from this very thread...


I'd like to actually have ONE thread on this board that isn't hijacked by an OSU troll. This thread is about UM football, not a chance for the trolls to illustrate their obsession with UM football by discussing OSU.

[patient77]

Let's keep this thread focusing on UM football. Unlike the trolls here, I don't obsess about the players from our rival teams. I like to focus on what our team is doing and working to improve on. I could care less about obsessing about OSU, MSU, and ND until we are about to play them.