Tressel beats Rodriguez again...

[NorCal Buckeye]

I was just checking the 2010 recruiting commitment list. Tressel has almost all 4 star players coming in. Rodriguez has almost all 3 star players coming. What can you infer from that? JT better recruiter than RR? Or OSU more attractive school than UM? Or both?;)

[rickyleach]

Norcal , i think you need to look alittle closer , ,osu doesnt come close to having all 4 star recruits , if that were the case michigan wouldnt be ranked higher then them , and where do you get your imfo , from the school paper , post shhit thats atleast half true would ya..

[NorCal Buckeye]

Norcal , i think you need to look alittle closer , ,osu doesnt come close to having all 4 star recruits , if that were the case michigan wouldnt be ranked higher then them , and where do you get your imfo , from the school paper , post shhit thats atleast half true would ya..

I got it off Rivals.com. And check it out, quantity does not trump quality. That's all you guys need, RR 3 stars trying to beat JT 4 stars. It ain't gonna happen.:rolleyes:

[Don Unverferth]

The Bucks are most likely going to finish strong this year. We have 4 prospects who are rated 1st or 2nd at their respective position that we have excellent chances of getting.

OT 1 Seantrel Henderson
(Cretin Derham Hall)
Saint Paul, MN 6-8/301

MLB 1 Jeff Luc
(Treasure Coast HS)
Port Saint Lucie, FL 6-1/240

OLB 2 Jordan Hicks
(Lakota West HS)
West Chester, OH 6-2/200

CB 2 Lamarcus Joyner
(St. Thomas Aquinas HS)
Fort Lauderdale, FL 5-9.5/165/4.40

[byebyelloyd]

The Bucks are most likely going to finish strong this year. We have 4 prospects who are rated 1st or 2nd at their respective position that we have excellent chances of getting.

OT 1 Seantrel Henderson
(Cretin Derham Hall)
Saint Paul, MN 6-8/301

MLB 1 Jeff Luc
(Treasure Coast HS)
Port Saint Lucie, FL 6-1/240

OLB 2 Jordan Hicks
(Lakota West HS)
West Chester, OH 6-2/200

CB 2 Lamarcus Joyner
(St. Thomas Aquinas HS)
Fort Lauderdale, FL 5-9.5/165/4.40

may get the ohio boy, no shot in hell at the rest, but keep wishing in one hand.

[RADRACING]

I got it off Rivals.com. And check it out, quantity does not trump quality. That's all you guys need, RR 3 stars trying to beat JT 4 stars. It ain't gonna happen.:rolleyes:

How did your 5 star guy Pryor work out? :p

hahahahahahaha

[cartyboi]

What do stars mean anyway? Wasn't Mike Hart and Pat White 3 stars? Aren't TP and Jimmy Clausen 5 stars?

[1OSUNUT]

Joyner is actually good friends with Duron Carter and he is 70/30 to the good. He was said to like Ohio State and the Buckeyes do a pretty damn good job of sending DB's to the NFL - the leauge is full of them.

[rickyleach]

you buckeyes are a joke , if we get this guy or that guy , hello , from what i see on donnys christmas list not one of those players has said yes to ohio state, YOU CANT EVEN RECRUIT A QUALITY QB , BECAUSE YOUR BOY TRESSEL FUUCKED OVER TODD BEOKMAN AND BY DOING SO TOLD EVERY RECRUIT IN THE COUNTRY PRYOR IS MY GUY SO YOU WILL SIT ATLEAST 2 OR 3 YEARS. AND NORCAL RIVALS DOESNT HAVE YOUR BUCKEYES EVEN IN THE TOP 12 OF RECRUITING AND SCOUTS HAS THEM EVEN FURTHER DOWN THE LIST , YOU KNOW WHATS EVEN FUNNIER, YOUR O LINE IS LOADED WITH 5 STAR FLUNKIES , AS HERBIE SAID ON 97.1 ,OSU HAS THE WORST O LINE IN THE BIG10 AND MAYBE C/FOOTBALL , ALL 5 STAR NOTHINGS , ARGUE THAT ONE SHITTHEADS.

[RADRACING]

What do stars mean anyway? Wasn't Mike Hart and Pat White 3 stars? Aren't TP and Jimmy Clausen 5 stars?

I think Hart was more a product of having good blocking, he didn't make it in the NFL, he's on the Indy practice squad, he might head to Canada, just a speculation nothing ive heard. As far as college production he had a productive career, his lack of speed and size kept him from being a 4 or 5 star player in HS.

FYI Jimmy leads the nation in passing efficiency with a 67.6%, an upset of USC this week and he will be one of the favorites for the Heishman

http://www.philsteele.com/fbsinfo/Top_performers.html

Not so sure those were the best examples.

[1OSUNUT]

Dicky -

Just remember that the early rankings are based mostly on how many verbals you have. Ohio State only has 13 so far - but they have a bunch of offeres out there still. They have 8 4 star recruits and 5 3star recruits. Michigan has 4 4 star recruits and 15 3 star recruits - which one would you take. The Buckeyes are also players on a few 5 star recruits as well. The Buckeyes have one major thing over Michigan right now - NFL placement. Ask Mel Kiper - the Buckeyes send guys to the NFL. Even a boner like you cannot argue that. We might not send QB's - but we send everything else.

The Buckeyes will field a Top 5 class this year when the smoke clears. Let RR build his team with 3 star players like he did at WVU. All you have to do is look at your current defense to see what 3 star players will do for you - enjoy.

[RADRACING]

Depending on needs you got to keep in mind on average only 3 to 5 guys will ever work out in a class, and less become great players. The services rate the whole class, but it is quality not quantity that determines how good a class will be.

[1OSUNUT]

It's hard to judge anybody this early because 80% of the 5 stars have not made their choice yet. The Buckeyes could land 2 or 3 5 star recruits and jump to #5 when matched with the 8 4's they already have. The picks of the Top 50 will ultimatly decide who ends up where in the rankings. RR does have an awful lot of 3 star recruits though. Don't you find that a bit strange ?

[RADRACING]

To tell you the Truth OSU has their running back out of Indiana, if no one else works out they probably would be happy with that missing piece.

[1OSUNUT]

I want Hicks and Joyner as well. Those two kids would fit real nice into our defense. We are going to need a corner and a linebacker. We also get Tyler Moeller back next year because of his medical redshirt. That will be like getting a 5 star recruit because he would of been our best linebacker this year and he has experience.

[NorCal Buckeye]

I want Hicks and Joyner as well. Those two kids would fit real nice into our defense. We are going to need a corner and a linebacker. We also get Tyler Moeller back next year because of his medical redshirt. That will be like getting a 5 star recruit because he would of been our best linebacker this year and he has experience.

Does anybody know much about the QB they are bringing in? I think he is from the Cleveland area. Is he really a good one?

[NorCal Buckeye]

It's hard to judge anybody this early because 80% of the 5 stars have not made their choice yet. The Buckeyes could land 2 or 3 5 star recruits and jump to #5 when matched with the 8 4's they already have. The picks of the Top 50 will ultimatly decide who ends up where in the rankings. RR does have an awful lot of 3 star recruits though. Don't you find that a bit strange ?

I would bet there have to be over 1,000 posts on this site from the UM people yapping about how RR was going to get all these 4 and 5 star recruits, then kick ass starting with Tressel.

Doesn't look like that is happening. I wonder why? He doesn't know how to recruit, or no one with real talent wants to have anything to do with him?:eek:

[Wolvrin704]

UM used to outrecruit OSU early on in JT's career at OSU. We all see how that turned out. Recruiting rankings are nothing more than bragging rights.

For every 5 or 4 star players that turns into an actual CFB contributor there are probably 3-4 that are busts.

[rickyleach]

i know mel kiper knows his shhit too , he said t pryor would be the best qb in years comming out of high school , and hell i guess if you feel 5 for 13 ,for 27 total yards and rushing for 37 yards is good ,then hell he is as great as kiper said, what was pryor anyhow , the only 6 star kid ever , he also said your 5 star wonders shuggarts and adoms were two of the best ever , and your boy herbie called your o line out tues on 97.1 and said they were the worst in the big10 , but hey THEY ARE 5 STAR NOTHINGS......

[tpilews]

I would bet there have to be over 1,000 posts on this site from the UM people yapping about how RR was going to get all these 4 and 5 star recruits, then kick ass starting with Tressel.

Doesn't look like that is happening. I wonder why? He doesn't know how to recruit, or no one with real talent wants to have anything to do with him?:eek:

Michigan's got quite a few highly ranked guys still on the board. A lot can happen if UM has a successful season. It's tough to recruit when you're coming off a 3-9 year. Just as the team has shown progress this year, and will in the future, so shall the recruiting.

Also, the recruiting rankings are based on whether or not they see a recruit being an NFL player someday. When you run a system that isn't implemented in the NFL, you are taking a larger number of players that automatically have a star docked. Also, you've got a defense that uses a lot of hybrid positions, where guys are undersized, and hopefully quicker, than your standard player. The recruits will come, you just have to give RR and Co. some time. Not that you're really wanting to see that day come, but ya know...

[tpilews]

UM used to outrecruit OSU early on in JT's career at OSU. We all see how that turned out. Recruiting rankings are nothing more than bragging rights.

For every 5 or 4 star players that turns into an actual CFB contributor there are probably 3-4 that are busts.

Also, not to rain on your parade and all, but in 2 recruiting classes, RR has signed 30 4+ star players. He has another 4 in the 2010 class, with an additional 4 that are 0.1, in the Rivals Ranking, from being a 4 star. Also, it would be beneficial if a guy like Jeremy Jackson would actually be assessed at the position he'll play in college, or that he is currently playing in HS.

[1OSUNUT]

The bottom line is that it's way to early to see who has the better current (2010) class. The Buckeyes and Wolverines both have feelers out and offers to more 4 and 5 star kids - but many of the top prospects have not commited yet or even have taken a visit. I know Hicks and Joyner both were in Columbus for the USC game and loved the experience. Hicks still wants to visit Texas and Florida as well.

I think we will know a lot more in the next two months once high school football is over.

[Wolvrin704]

NUT actually has a great point. Why are we even talking about it yet? Its way too early to say which class is better as there are a lot of top players out there yet to sign.

[NCBLUE]

Only true way to evaluate a recruiting class in in retrospect. Plus nobody said Tressel was not a good recruiter. I thought after Cooper 9who was also a good recruiter) Tressel may be a drop off but that has not been the case.

RR never really had highly touted classes at WV but he did the most with what he had. It will be interesting to see what he is able to do with top shelf talent at Michigan once he gets 3-4 classes under his belt.