Rush Limbaugh?

[NorCal Buckeye]

Anybody got anything to say about the Rush Limbaugh thing?

I personally have never had any use for him. I always thought he was a big wind bag of right wing hot air. But has it come to this in America where you are ostracized as a racist if you are simply against reverse discrimination? And then that makes you a public target for libel, slander, and deprivation of your basic right to pursue business opportunities?

Is this what it has come to? Women, minorities, and illegals rule? And god help any person who says anything counter to the party line? The country is not going to hell in a hand basket. It's there already. I apologize to my kids for the mess we are leaving them.:eek:

[michAGAIN]

I find it interesting that our country has evolved to the point of telling who can and cannot own things. Do we stop an Arab from being a co-owner of one of our airlines? Do we stop an Irish-American from owning a Mexican restaurant? Do we stop some hospitals from being owned by the Seventh-Day Adventists because we may find something to disagree with their religion?
Do we stop a Jewish person from owning an apartment building because it may rent to Muslims? I don't think we should be headed down this road but we are headed down it full-speed ahead. We are not one nation anymore. Day by day, we are dividing each and every citizen deeper and deeper into a myriad of categories and each and every category isn't allowed to interact and connect with any other category. It is insanity and this is just the tip of the iceberg.

[zilla]

"Day by day, we are dividing each and every citizen deeper and deeper into a myriad of categories"


Sounds like you and the way you put everyone into the same bucket that have different views than you. You know how it goes, liberal this and liberal that.
Liberal, liberal, liberal.

[wolverine]

Anybody got anything to say about the Rush Limbaugh thing?

I personally have never had any use for him. I always thought he was a big wind bag of right wing hot air. But has it come to this in America where you are ostracized as a racist if you are simply against reverse discrimination? And then that makes you a public target for libel, slander, and deprivation of your basic right to pursue business opportunities?

Is this what it has come to? Women, minorities, and illegals rule? And god help any person who says anything counter to the party line? The country is not going to hell in a hand basket. It's there already. I apologize to my kids for the mess we are leaving them.:eek:

Norcal at least we agree on something this counrty has changed and NOT for the better we have been on the downward slope for at least 20 years and I think were at or near the bottom

[gator]

"Day by day, we are dividing each and every citizen deeper and deeper into a myriad of categories"


Sounds like you and the way you put everyone into the same bucket that have different views than you. You know how it goes, liberal this and liberal that.
Liberal, liberal, liberal.

Funny, I wanted to respond to the exact same sentence posted by michAGAIN. IMO, we are dividing down a fundamental line (which is generally represented by the line between liberals and conservatives) because the original American dream is no longer the American dream. For half of the country, it is no longer enough to simply have EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, there has to be EQUAL RESULTS. Hence, you basically have two groups of people: 1) people that work their a$$e$ off and want to hold on to what they have earned and 2) people that don't do crap (or at least don't apply themselves beyond a minimum wage job) but want what the people in group 1 have. It isn't much more complicated than that. Unfortuntely, promising to take from a select group in group 1 (the "rich") to give to everyone in group 2 makes for great rhetoric and politics.

I admit, it's natural to just want shit handed to you; unfortunately, some very short-sighted people can see how that scenario ends - the productive portion of society eventually just says, "F' it! Let the government take care of me too." The only problem is the government isn't a business (otherwise, they would have went bankrupt decades ago). They don't produce anything; hence, they don't generate income. All government programs require productive people out their doing business and paying taxes - and that is why I HATE liberal-minded people! They just can't make that connection. The productive people are what make the world go round, and IMO they should be entitled to at least 80% of what they make, not the other way around. When the productive people just give up due to the overwhelming oppression by the government, the whole system will just go F'ing kaputt!!! Isn't it interesting how some of the socialist European countries are now voting in landslide numbers to employ capitialistic principles and reduce taxes on the rich. Just look at Germany.

The whole Rush thing is just a side-effect of this basic division. The left hates that he constantly and accurately points out the flaws in their logic. Because they can't defeat him in the arena of ideas, it is just easier to discredit him as a racist and extremist. That is what I find the most amusing about liberals: though they claim to be the most open-minded people, they are the quickest to denegrate a person's image or reputation to avoid a debate of ideas. I imagine that is why every left-wing talk show is an absolute BOMB in the free-market arena. Check out Air America.

[cartyboi]

If Barack Obama can win a Nobel Peace Prize for the anticipation of things he was going to do, Rush Limbaugh can buy a football team. What has happened to America?

[wolverine]

guys there is hope for the future My youngest son is starting an conservative group amoung his friends ages 21 to 30 and he started an web site goes out to the booth at the fair has run 2 tea parties he is going out there and getting into the mx and not just sitting on the sidelines

[zilla]

"Because they can't defeat him in the arena of ideas"


Really? Who holds the WH and both houses? Sounds like his ideas were rejected soundly last year.

[zilla]

guys there is hope for the future My youngest son is starting an conservative group amoung his friends ages 21 to 30 and he started an web site goes out to the booth at the fair has run 2 tea parties he is going out there and getting into the mx and not just sitting on the sidelines

Do they pay federal taxes? Most 21-30 don't, so I think it would funny they are protesting taxes yet not paying them.

[gator]

"Because they can't defeat him in the arena of ideas"


Really? Who holds the WH and both houses? Sounds like his ideas were rejected soundly last year.

You must not have comprehended the rest of the post. Like I said, taking from a select portion of Group 1 (the productive) to give to Group 2 (the numberless worthless), makes for great politics. I don't know how to tell you this, zilla, but doing the right thing is usually difficult. It's like working out; your body is better off for it, but it's tough making yourself go to the gym every day. Putting yourself through school and making something of yourself is hard...that's right you just make fun of me for that. Hmmm...what do you think of medical doctors? Just a waste of time and tax dollars?

OK, zilla, just repeat after me, "I think like the dumbest and poorest members of society. I can't really do anything useful, so I will just complain about my lot in life and expect others to provide for me."

Yes, your lousey excuse for a president is in the Oval Office, but it's not exactly difficult to buy the vote of the underperforming and uniformed, is it? Must suck to be one of them.

[zilla]

Wow, you have lost your way so much your refer to Obama as "your president". That is very un-american of you.

Also do we really need to go over what I make and what you do for income in a year? I contribute you do not. I bet you have not paid federal taxes in your life but you are in a long line of tea bag losers bitching about "your tax dollars".

Man up loser and get a job.

[gator]

Wow, you have lost your way so much your refer to Obama as "your president". That is very un-american of you.

Also do we really need to go over what I make and what you do for income in a year? I contribute you do not. I bet you have not paid federal taxes in your life but you are in a long line of tea bag losers bitching about "your tax dollars".

Man up loser and get a job.

As soon as that SOB says one thing that sounds like he represents my interest, he will be "my" president. I've paid taxes every year since I was in 10th grade MF. See, that's how us productive people do it. We have to work our a$$e$ off to put ourselves through school (paying taxes the whole time), only to get out and have Uncle Sam come in for at least 50% of the action. And you still can't understand why productive people hate taxes....surprising!:rolleyes: I have two theories about you: 1) you don't make as much money as you claim or 2) you were born with a silver spoon up your ass, and it is very fashionable to "care" for the poor. I was born poor MF, and I don't want anything to do with that lifestyle anymore. I've seen how those people constantly take advantage of the system, and I don't have a lick of sympathy for them. If I can pull myself out of that situation, anyone can.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime. How many times do we have to give you a F'ing fish?

[zilla]

Glad you read my PM, spot on I thought.

"I was born poor MF, and I don't want anything to do with that lifestyle anymore."

Yet you continue to feed of the state as the Florida tax payers fund your education. I have an MBA and understand the importance of education. But make one thing clear, I did not pretend to be some upset tax payer and complain all the time when I was making very little during my school years.

That is what is funny about you and your tea bag friends. All a bunch of low wage earning slobs that think they are taken advantage of by the federal government for the taxes they pay. Got news for you losers, most of you pay next to nothing in federal taxes, quit the comedy of pretending you are some high roller paying high taxes. Your Target bought clothes tell the truth. :D

[gator]

Glad you read my PM, spot on I thought.

"I was born poor MF, and I don't want anything to do with that lifestyle anymore."

Yet you continue to feed of the state as the Florida tax payers fund your education. I have an MBA and understand the importance of education. But make one thing clear, I did not pretend to be some upset tax payer and complain all the time when I was making very little during my school years.

That is what is funny about you and your tea bag friends. All a bunch of low wage earning slobs that think they are taken advantage of by the federal government for the taxes they pay. Got news for you losers, most of you pay next to nothing in federal taxes, quit the comedy of pretending you are some high roller paying high taxes. Your Target bought clothes tell the truth. :D

First, your PM either wasn't there when I posted, or I didn't see it. How many times do whe have to go through how I get paid....I'm beginning to think your reading comprehension isn't that great. I pay taxes, granted they aren't that much now, but they will be shortly. As far as "teabagers," it does not matter how much taxes each of them pay. That has never been the point. It is the principle that you can succeed here in this country but are penalized for half your earnings. Teaparties aren't just about the individuals that attend them, they are about the principle of success and the right to keep what you earn. To hell with lazy people.

To your point in the PM, you have every right to believe how you want in this country. I know plenty of people that think like you do at my university, but they usually fall into three categories 1) they grew up on govenment benefits, 2) born with silverspoon up their ass and it's simply fashionable to "care" about the poor, or 3) they were brainwashed at the university (seeing how 80% or more of the faculty is liberal). Like I said, you can have any view you want....it's your right as an American. Like I have also said, you still think like the dumbest and poorest in America (I guarantee you that 9 our of 10 people on welfare vote democrat)...take that for what it is worth, but I think that says all I need to know about you.

[NorCal Buckeye]

Who would agree with me in saying that if you are a self-made, successful white male in America nowadays, you have to apologize for it in order to be politically correct?

Has anyone noticed the ridiculing and bashing of white males in TV ads? If minority groups or women were portrayed as stupid cave people or lazy, out of shape nerds there would be a firestorm of protests and boycotting of ad sponsors. But white men? They are the cause of everything that is wrong with the world. Unapologetic and cruel stereotyping. And it is OK in today's America group think.

What a crock. Most every advancement that has helped us achieve the standard of living possible is from the mind of a white male.

I'm not racist. I'm really color blind. That is why I'm against reverse discrimination. And why in this one rare instance I can sympathize with Rush. Although I usually dislike him, in this case he is being victimized. And if he can, we all can.

OK, I'm off this soap box.:(

[gator]

Who would agree with me in saying that if you are a self-made, successful white male in America nowadays, you have to apologize for it in order to be politically correct?

Has anyone noticed the ridiculing and bashing of white males in TV ads? If minority groups or women were portrayed as stupid cave people or lazy, out of shape nerds there would be a firestorm of protests and boycotting of ad sponsors. But white men? They are the cause of everything that is wrong with the world. Unapologetic and cruel stereotyping. And it is OK in today's America group think.

What a crock. Most every advancement that has helped us achieve the standard of living possible is from the mind of a white male.

I'm not racist. I'm really color blind. That is why I'm against reverse discrimination. And why in this one rare instance I can sympathize with Rush. Although I usually dislike him, in this case he is being victimized. And if he can, we all can.

OK, I'm off this soap box.:(

Nor Cal, that's the most spot-on post you have ever made. I don't agree with Rush all of the time. Heck, I hardly ever listen to him. Most of the right-wing talk shows are too overboard for my taste, and they just depress me anyway (when they start talking about Obama). I will say this though, Nor Cal, it's almost a sin to succeed in this country anymore if you are a white male. You're also right about the portrayal of white males in sitcoms these days -always aloof, boring, nerdy, lazy, and being bossed around by a woman if they are married. I don't believe that you have to be white or male to have great ideas or provide significant contribution to this society, but it does seem like the white male is public enemy #1 in this country (politically) these days.

[zilla]

"Has anyone noticed the ridiculing and bashing of white males in TV ads?"


No doubt about it. According to drunk driving ads only white males drink and drive, pure horseshit.

And now the facts.... the f-ing Mexicans where I live can't go a day without getting drunk and going behind the wheel.

[wolverine]

This race thing with Limbaugh is an modern day witch hunt the rhetoric is meant to destroy a persons career life and reputation , While I don’t agree with everything Limbaugh says ,I feel if he wants to buy into an NFL team he has the right to do so.

BUT the NFL is SO PC that any criticism is acted upon and by the NFL giving into the PC only emboldens the ones like al sharp ton Jesse Jackson George soros and others that traffic in this crap these persons don’t do anything worthwhile or positive they have only done things by there deeds to bring down anybody they disagree with ,

What have we come to in this country when you don’t like what someone says you go out and try to hurt them by your rhetoric ,,,what happened by what one of our founding fathers said “I may not agree with what you say BUT ill defend with my life your right to say it

We are on the verge of socialism and maybe even communism and we need as Americans to rethink what way this country is going the silent majority cannot afford to be silent anymore

[The Michigan Man]

Who would agree with me in saying that if you are a self-made, successful white male in America nowadays, you have to apologize for it in order to be politically correct?

Has anyone noticed the ridiculing and bashing of white males in TV ads? If minority groups or women were portrayed as stupid cave people or lazy, out of shape nerds there would be a firestorm of protests and boycotting of ad sponsors. But white men? They are the cause of everything that is wrong with the world. Unapologetic and cruel stereotyping. And it is OK in today's America group think.

What a crock. Most every advancement that has helped us achieve the standard of living possible is from the mind of a white male.

I'm not racist. I'm really color blind. That is why I'm against reverse discrimination. And why in this one rare instance I can sympathize with Rush. Although I usually dislike him, in this case he is being victimized. And if he can, we all can.

OK, I'm off this soap box.:(

Here's the lesson kids. IF you want to own an NFL franchise some day:

1) Don't be openly conservative
2) Don't be rich and influential
2) Don't have the audacity to criticize a black QB like McNabb in public

Maybe the NFL should initiate a full investigation into the political ideology of all NFL owners and strip them of their ownership interest if they are conservative. Does Joseph McCarthy have a grandson that can lead such an investigation?

[GoDeepHammer]

"Day by day, we are dividing each and every citizen deeper and deeper into a myriad of categories"


Sounds like you and the way you put everyone into the same bucket that have different views than you. You know how it goes, liberal this and liberal that.
Liberal, liberal, liberal.

Divide and conquer, it's the perfect plan. Easier to take over when there is fighting between the masses.

[amazinblue]

Some interesting comments. My feeling is that whether you work hard for your income or inherited it - it shouldn't matter if you're interested in owning part of (or an entire) football team. This, of course, assumes that you acquired your income in a legal manner (i.e. not through the trafficing of narcotics, etc.).

One's political views shouldn't matter - at all - period.

And, I also wish the federal government would do something else. Why doesn't the government eliminate the tax break that companies / individuals get when they acquire skyboxes and "entertain" clients at sporting events? Since, with companies being able to write off taking clients to these sporting events - essentially every person who pays taxes funds these activities. Other taxpayers don't "fund" my job - and I don't want to fund others jobs - especially athletes.

If they did, I really wonder how many people would be going to these games.




And Zilla, though this may be off topic a bit - I'm wondering. Did you pay for your college yourself - or did someone fund your education? And, since you've stated that you've got an MBA as well - did you pay for that too, or did the company you work for or a benefactor pay for it? My guess, you may have worked "a bit" during the summers of your college days - but, mostly - your parents or grandparents paid for your college - and, during your college years, you didn't earn enough money to actually have to file and pay federal taxes. I'm also willing to bet that your company (or your parents / grandparents) paid for your MBA as well.

[JohnD4980]

So I suppose the rest of the owners in the NFL are Saints, LO> I don't care for the guy, but blocking him from buying seems odd...

[blueisbetterthanred]

I think he should have been allowed an owners vote. He needed 24 out of 32 to pass and never would have gotten in, but he has the right to go through the same process everyone else goes through.

[zilla]

Here's the lesson kids. IF you want to own an NFL franchise some day:

1) Don't be openly conservative
2) Don't be rich and influential
2) Don't have the audacity to criticize a black QB like McNabb in public

Maybe the NFL should initiate a full investigation into the political ideology of all NFL owners and strip them of their ownership interest if they are conservative. Does Joseph McCarthy have a grandson that can lead such an investigation?

Interesting what I heard yesterday, 70% of the NFL owners are Republicans and gave money to Republicans in the last election. This was business pure and simple. Also another point I liked was what is the upside of having him as an owner? The NFL doesn't need the money, doesn't need the publicity and the bad far outweighs the good by allowing him in. The current owners have a brand they need to protect and a loud mouth self serving d-bag like Rush is bad for business.

From the WSJ:

"In all, NFL team owners gave $636,417 to GOP candidates for federal office, PACs, and federally focused "527" tax-exempt organizations during the 2008 election cycle. That amount is almost double the amount owners gave to Democrats."

[gator]

Interesting what I heard yesterday, 70% of the NFL owners are Republicans and gave money to Republicans in the last election. This was business pure and simple. Also another point I liked was what is the upside of having him as an owner? The NFL doesn't need the money, doesn't need the publicity and the bad far outweighs the good by allowing him in. The current owners have a brand they need to protect and a loud mouth self serving d-bag like Rush is bad for business.

From the WSJ:

"In all, NFL team owners gave $636,417 to GOP candidates for federal office, PACs, and federally focused "527" tax-exempt organizations during the 2008 election cycle. That amount is almost double the amount owners gave to Democrats."

Since when has being a d-bag (at least in your opinion) excluded you from ownership in this country? The EXCLUSIVITY of your thought processes never really bothers you does it? Of course not, because, as I've pointed out time and again, you think like the dumbest and poorest this country has to offer.

[zilla]

"Since when has being a d-bag (at least in your opinion) excluded you from ownership in this country?"


When you have a daily radio show that half the country hates beyond belief. Why would any current owner want this type of publicity into the league and mess up what they have.

Try to think like a business man gator as opposed to some aging student.