LLoyd Carr should be fired! English to EMU!

[chad]

Lloyd Carr is advising another D1 program to hire a former coach who was fired by Rod to be head coach of their program?! Not only that but Michigan plays EMU next year!

Lloyd is a paid member of Michigan's athletic dept and should be canned!

Think about it.
You are an executive for GM and one of your peers fires an employee that worked for you. Then you go to Toyota and advise them to hire this terminated employee of GM w/ inside information. That person would be fired before he even blinked an eye!

This is totally backstabbing Rodriguez! No matter how you feel about Rich Rod!

[LAMfan]

Lloyd Carr is advising another D1 program to hire a former coach who was fired by Rod to be head coach of their program?! Not only that but Michigan plays EMU next year!

Lloyd is a paid member of Michigan's athletic dept and should be canned!

Think about it.
You are an executive for GM and one of your peers fires an employee that worked for you. Then you go to Toyota and advise them to hire this terminated employee of GM w/ inside information. That person would be fired before he even blinked an eye!

This is totally backstabbing Rodriguez! No matter how you feel about Rich Rod!

I don't see it the same way as you. There can be loyalty to both an institution and a respected colleague. Advising a potential employer about the merits of a former work colleague is totally appropriate and happens all the time in the work world.

This speaks to the strong character of Carr as he is standing behind the people that worked on his behalf, and for the U of M. I don't see this as having anything to do with RR. He has his own job to do to build strong relationships and a solid foundation for winning and no need to be concerned with EMU. At least I hope not.

[joeismyname]

Lloyd Carr is advising another D1 program to hire a former coach who was fired by Rod to be head coach of their program?! Not only that but Michigan plays EMU next year!

Lloyd is a paid member of Michigan's athletic dept and should be canned!

Think about it.
You are an executive for GM and one of your peers fires an employee that worked for you. Then you go to Toyota and advise them to hire this terminated employee of GM w/ inside information. That person would be fired before he even blinked an eye!

This is totally backstabbing Rodriguez! No matter how you feel about Rich Rod!

Your an idiot. Carr is not a conspirator against the University of Michigan. He is just a good friend and man with character. English has no insider information because in case you haven't noticed, Michigan is a completely differently run team than when English and Carr were coaching, and I really don't think Lloyd is going to be leaking info to English before the big EMU-Michigan game. Michigan shouldn't be worried about Lloyd Carr sending scandalous info leaking text messages to Ron English, they should worry about not getting shown up by EMU like they were against Appy State and Toledo. Please just stop feeding us your bullcrap. Lloyd Carr is a good man, and he is not all that is wrong with Michigan right now like some of you think he is. He is probably helping to keep good character and morale in the program if anything....(don't forget that RR did recruit Pac Man Jones and Travis Henry). So just shut the hell up. Let RR coach, and let Lloyd help his buddy out and hook him up with a decent head coaching job to get his career as a head coach moving. I commend Lloyd for staying loyal to his friends. We could use more Lloyd Carr's in this world.

[Bossgobbler23]

English is a good man and a good coach. RR chose to bring in a new regime. I think if you asked RR, he would not have trouble with Carr endorsing a good coach. As for the competition aspect, it will be decided on the field man against man, not coach against coach.

[coolone08]

Lloyd Carr is advising another D1 program to hire a former coach who was fired by Rod to be head coach of their program?! Not only that but Michigan plays EMU next year!

Lloyd is a paid member of Michigan's athletic dept and should be canned!

Think about it.
You are an executive for GM and one of your peers fires an employee that worked for you. Then you go to Toyota and advise them to hire this terminated employee of GM w/ inside information. That person would be fired before he even blinked an eye!

This is totally backstabbing Rodriguez! No matter how you feel about Rich Rod!

The Cool One (me) already started a thread about this weeks ago when I first heard about this stab in the back. I'm also a little tired of all the name calling and attitudes some of you dewsh bags anytime someone is giving a little constructive criticism to this program, especially if its directed at Lloyd Carr.

[coolone08]

English is a good man and a good coach. RR chose to bring in a new regime. I think if you asked RR, he would not have trouble with Carr endorsing a good coach. As for the competition aspect, it will be decided on the field man against man, not coach against coach.

How in the hell do you know if he's a "good" man? He might beat his kids and cheat on his wife for all you know. Are you privy to his family life? As far as him being a good coach just watch the Oregon and appy st games from last year. Or his Louisville D at Rutgers. Come on.:eek:

[Bossgobbler23]

How in the hell do you know if he's a "good" man? He might beat his kids and cheat on his wife for all you know. Are you privy to his family life? As far as him being a good coach just watch the Oregon and appy st games from last year. Or his Louisville D at Rutgers. Come on.:eek:

That's your opinion and I don't share it. I was not a fan of Lloyd's playbook in his later years but I always respected his integrity and those associated with him. You would NEVER hear of him or his staff getting caught for wrong doing. I am a firm supporter of the Michigan program and RR. As for English, I stand by my words and am not willing to judge him on a couple bad outings a team had. If that were the case all DC's and head coaches would be gone. Les Miles would be fired this year under your examples. If you want to come on this forum, be taken seriously and have good discussions, you must be mature and open minded enough to engage in respectful conversation, more so with those who have opposing viewpoints. The lack thereof would suggest one of little character. I will bite my tongue this time and give you the opportunity to show what type of intelligence you posses by discussing your views respectfully. I wish coach English good luck!

[Run The Ball]

Lloyd Carr is advising another D1 program to hire a former coach who was fired by Rod to be head coach of their program?! Not only that but Michigan plays EMU next year!

Lloyd is a paid member of Michigan's athletic dept and should be canned!

Think about it.
You are an executive for GM and one of your peers fires an employee that worked for you. Then you go to Toyota and advise them to hire this terminated employee of GM w/ inside information. That person would be fired before he even blinked an eye!

This is totally backstabbing Rodriguez! No matter how you feel about Rich Rod!


What a fukktard you are, dude. Don't get mad at EMU because they have a better head coach now than we do, and certainy don't harbor resentment at Carr for bringing him there. In fact, what would now be nice is if we could just move the entire fukking complex at Michigan over to EMU....the Big House, the athletic buildings, the historical records, etc., and just leave Martian and DikRod in Ann Arbor.

[The Michigan Man]

Lloyd Carr is advising another D1 program to hire a former coach who was fired by Rod to be head coach of their program?! Not only that but Michigan plays EMU next year!

Lloyd is a paid member of Michigan's athletic dept and should be canned!

Think about it.
You are an executive for GM and one of your peers fires an employee that worked for you. Then you go to Toyota and advise them to hire this terminated employee of GM w/ inside information. That person would be fired before he even blinked an eye!

This is totally backstabbing Rodriguez! No matter how you feel about Rich Rod!

I don't see where EMU and Michigan's interests are at odds. Its not like they are in the same conference.

And for the record, English was not fired. He was hired by Carr, and when Carr retired, all of his hires were subject to a review by the new HC in order to maintain their positions. RR chose not to retain him - there is a world of difference between that and getting fired.

[Buzz]

How in the hell do you know if he's a "good" man? He might beat his kids and cheat on his wife for all you know. Are you privy to his family life? As far as him being a good coach just watch the Oregon and appy st games from last year. Or his Louisville D at Rutgers. Come on.:eek:

English is a pretty good coach, not great but pretty good.

As far as questoning him as a person, you have made some erroneous, foolish, and overall idiotic remarks about English......my man.

The next time you post, think first....then make a post.

[rickyleach]

runtheball, what we need is for you to swallow a bottle of assprin and say goodnite for ever,,,

[Revelli]

Think about it.
You are an executive for GM and one of your peers fires an employee that worked for you. Then you go to Toyota and advise them to hire this terminated employee of GM w/ inside information. That person would be fired before he even blinked an eye!


Actually, that happens all the time. It's called a referance. Why is it such a big deal to you that he's helping EMU? It's not like we ever get beat by MAC teams anyway,..... oh,.... $hit... sorry, forgot about toledo.;)
Seriously, though, you are waaaaay over reacting. Lighten up!

[blueisbetterthanred]

I don't see any problem with Carr "giving references." I don't like the way the guy coached but he does have a strong character. I'm sure if he didn't say anything someone would have complained about that too.

Attack his coaching style if you want, but not his character. :)

[cartyboi]

What a fukktard you are, dude. Don't get mad at EMU because they have a better head coach now than we do, and certainy don't harbor resentment at Carr for bringing him there. In fact, what would now be nice is if we could just move the entire fukking complex at Michigan over to EMU....the Big House, the athletic buildings, the historical records, etc., and just leave Martian and DikRod in Ann Arbor.

Why don't you become an EMU fan? I'm sure everyone here would be glad to see you go. I would be glad to see you go or choke on Christmas dinner. Whatever would come sooner. :/

[coolone08]

English is a pretty good coach, not great but pretty good.

As far as questoning him as a person, you have made some erroneous, foolish, and overall idiotic remarks about English......my man.

The next time you post, think first....then make a post.

If come at me you better learn how to spell, moron. It's questioning, not questoning! Are you related to 1OSUondeezNuts?
Furthermore I'd appreciate if you would not take me out of context. I bet your a liberal who watches MSNBC. I was responding to "someone else" on here who apparently knows that Ron English is a good coach and great human being. MY POINT is unless you KNOW him how can you make that statement! Nobody really knows anybody. Never put your faith in another man. Only trust in the Lord.

[Bossgobbler23]

If come at me you better learn how to spell, moron. It's questioning, not questoning! Are you related to 1OSUondeezNuts?
Furthermore I'd appreciate if you would not take me out of context. I bet your a liberal who watches MSNBC. I was responding to "someone else" on here who apparently knows that Ron English is a good coach and great human being. MY POINT is unless you KNOW him how can you make that statement! Nobody really knows anybody. Never put your faith in another man. Only trust in the Lord.

Coach English was a good coach IMO. He was well liked among the players. Who would know him better, you? It's called GOOD REPUTATION. Did you ever hear anything bad about his personality ANYWHERE? If so, list the facts. Enough time wasted on a newby. Time to talk football with those "who know".

[Buzz]

If come at me you better learn how to spell, moron.

You put a sentence together like that, and you want to correct me? You continue to post like a complete idiot, coolone08.

"I bet your a liberal who watches MSNBC", please....I'll tell you what I am.....an absolute warrior! Enough said.

You've responded with your point of view when it's apparent by the comments you've already received that your point makes no sense what so ever....you should probably stop posting here because it's obvious that you do know what you're doing.

[coolone08]

[QUOTE=Buzz;2543]You put a sentence together like that, and you want to correct me? You continue to post like a complete idiot, coolone08.

"I bet your a liberal who watches MSNBC", please....I'll tell you what I am.....an absolute warrior! Enough said.

You've responded with your point of view when it's apparent by the comments you've already received that your point makes no sense what so ever....you should probably stop posting here because it's obvious that you do know what you're doing.[/QUOTE

How old are you anyway, Absolute Warrior? I refuse to let you insult me with out a response. You don't own these forums and I will continue to peruse them if I desire to do so.

[coolone08]

Coach English was a good coach IMO. He was well liked among the players. Who would know him better, you? It's called GOOD REPUTATION. Did you ever hear anything bad about his personality ANYWHERE? If so, list the facts. Enough time wasted on a newby. Time to talk football with those "who know".

LIKE YOU SAID in your IMO!!!!!!!!!! He was well liked among the players??? WTF are you talking about? When has being liked by your players been the measuring stick by which a good coach is determined??? By the way, YOU DO NOT "KNOW" him either!!! You claimed he was a good person. So why don't you come with facts. As far as those "who know" I've been a Michigan fan since the seventies, when you were a tadpole in your daddies sack.

[RADRACING]

Ha HA you want to bring back the old site to get rid of carr or something - That makes you a moron!

Anyway have a happy New Year - I seemed to have lost interest in posting about UM football since there is no bowl, I'm sure I will be back in the spring.
Commenting on last season or recruiting is pure boredom to me, I can't stand people talking about HS players, I don't get it at all, can't see how people care about that at all.

[Bossgobbler23]

As far as those "who know" I've been a Michigan fan since the seventies, when you were a tadpole in your daddies sack.

Evidently you killed all of your brain cells smoking dope in the Seventies too! I wish you were right about the age thing though. I'm done discussing the "non-topic" with you. EVERYBODY here "sees the light" except you. Read the posts junior. As I said, Ron English is a good man and a good coach and I wish him well. If this offends you then go lodge a complaint at www.Idontgiveashit.com :eek:

[elno lewis]

I think English to EMU is a great move. English will be able to do a lot of local recruiting and national recruiting. He'll get the talent, instill the discipline and forge a desire to win. He's young. He can still taste that UM HC job.

[BBA1994]

Unfortunately for English, EMU is a dead end job. If he can somehow get them to a bowl in the next 2 or 3 years then he can make the jump to a better HC position.

[GoDeepHammer]

Unfortunately for English, EMU is a dead end job. If he can somehow get them to a bowl in the next 2 or 3 years then he can make the jump to a better HC position.

I hope for him that he can get them going, they have lost enough.

[Bossgobbler23]

Unfortunately for English, EMU is a dead end job. If he can somehow get them to a bowl in the next 2 or 3 years then he can make the jump to a better HC position.

I think all of the MAC jobs are stepping stones for BCS conference schools. There are some darn good coaches that come out of the MAC. Way back was Bo, more recent Bryan Kelly. I think (Turner Gill) is it? at Buffalo and coaches at CMU and Ball State are all getting mentioned (not hired yet) for current job openings.

[GoDeepHammer]

I think all of the MAC jobs are stepping stones for BSC conference schools. There are some darn good coaches that come out of the MAC. Way back was Bo, more recent Bryan Kelly. I think (Turner Gill) is it? at Buffalo and coaches at CMU and Ball State are all getting mentioned (not hired yet) for current job openings.

I agree, I think that Southern Illinois will be kicking themselves for not taking English last year.

[Buzz]

How old are you anyway, Absolute Warrior? I refuse to let you insult me with out a response. You don't own these forums and I will continue to peruse them if I desire to do so.

That's exactly what I'm getting at coolone08, you punk....another clueless response.

You're fumbling and bumbling around with quote button, and can't even get that right. You kidding me?

and incidently coolone08, the last thing I'm worried about when posting a comment is insulting or offending your delicate sensibility.

[elno lewis]

Unfortunately for English, EMU is a dead end job. If he can somehow get them to a bowl in the next 2 or 3 years then he can make the jump to a better HC position.

Tell that to Charley Batch.

Not a dead end job. Just some undeveloped but fertile land. Seriously, English could flourish there in a couple years.