Completely Random Happy Thought

[Columbusisawhore]

I've been a Michigan fan my whole life, and I've also suffered through being a Detroit sports fan my whole life as well... yeah there's the occasional good year (1984 tigers, 1987 tigers (sort of, but i still find it hard to label a season where they traded away john smoltz for doyle alexander and didn't win a series good), 1989 pistons, 1990 pistons, 1997 wings, 1998 wings, 2002 wings, 2008 wings, even 2006 tigers (it was a great story)), BUT the one constant has always been the LIONS ARE HORRIBLE. It looks like there will be another house cleaning at the end of this season (as there should be). In light of that who here would be opposed to just letting Ford have Dikrod? I mean seriously, we can sacrifice the Lions for the greater good can't we? Its not like anything would change... the Lions will STILL be horrible and Michigan might get a shot at landing a decent coach this time around. Just a thought...

[tpilews]

I've been a Michigan fan my whole life, and I've also suffered through being a Detroit sports fan my whole life as well... yeah there's the occasional good year (1984 tigers, 1987 tigers (sort of, but i still find it hard to label a season where they traded away john smoltz for doyle alexander and didn't win a series good), 1989 pistons, 1990 pistons, 1997 wings, 1998 wings, 2002 wings, 2008 wings, even 2006 tigers (it was a great story)), BUT the one constant has always been the LIONS ARE HORRIBLE. It looks like there will be another house cleaning at the end of this season (as there should be). In light of that who here would be opposed to just letting Ford have Dikrod? I mean seriously, we can sacrifice the Lions for the greater good can't we? Its not like anything would change... the Lions will STILL be horrible and Michigan might get a shot at landing a decent coach this time around. Just a thought...

Your happy thoughts = retarded

[Columbusisawhore]

hey man... i'll gladly be called a retard if it gets RR the hell out of A2

[BBA1994]

RR isn't going anywhere....and that won't change the fact that you're a retard.

[tpilews]

hey man... i'll gladly be called a retard if it gets RR the hell out of A2

What's your deal with RR? I mean, I know UM had a horrible year, but that would have, arguably, happened with even God as coach.

Who was your pick for the job?

[Columbusisawhore]

It wouldn't have happened if a more traditional coach would have been brought in. RR's style of football turned off key players (see Manningham, Arrington, and Mallett) who would have helped us quite a bit on offense this year. At least we'd have had a QB who can trow the ball and receivers who could make plays. It's hard to field a good defense when the offense goes 3 and out nearly every drive and puts the opponent's offense in good field position on a consistent basis. Bottom line, you need to move the ball in order to give your defense a breather and give your team a chance to win. Key players that could have helped us do that weren't there this year. Maybe they will get better next year and Forcier will be the QB Messiah ascending on us from San Diego and turn things around, but my money says he'll be a FRESHMAN QB with no college experience. I'm predicting another lack-luster year for Michigan next year (6-6 if they're lucky... probably more like 4-8 with wins over western, emu, indiana, and purdue). I hope i'm wrong, but I haven't been overly impressed with anything he's done since coming on staff. Think about it... we'd probably be in a bowl this year with Mallett at QB, the young receivers would get another year in the system, and they'd be in position for a decent season in '09. they went from that to being 3-9 this season, out of a bowl game, and looking like they might not make a bowl next year either. For that, I want RR's nutz on a silver platter. We've found out Earl Bruce, his name is Rich Rodriguez. And I'm done for now... go ahead and leave the blindfold on and tell me I'm a f-tard, it's what I expect from most.

[Columbusisawhore]

As for my pick for the job... I wanted to take a serious look at a defensive minded coach. Until this year I honestly thought that Wins and Losses depended more on the players than the coaches, and while i still believe that's true I don't believe it was wise to bring in a guy who would foster so much attrition on his team (they had to know that a guy willing to give a big F-You to his alma mater, and a guy who has a completely different coaching strategy from what was in place would be DIVISIVE before they hired him and it blew up in Martin's face). Michigan was scoring plenty of points to put teams away before RR and would have still had the ability to do so this year if key offensive players (a COMPETENT QB and the only experienced O-Lineman we had) had not left the program. I'm not questioning his ability to coach, he showed he can do that with WVU. I am questioning his CHARACTER, his LEADERSHIP, and his FIT in the Michigan program.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

[QUOTE=Columbusisawhore;2534]It wouldn't have happened if a more traditional coach would have been brought in. RR's style of football turned off key players (see Manningham, Arrington, and Mallett) who would have helped us quite a bit on offense this year. At least we'd have had a QB who can trow the ball and receivers who could make plays. QUOTE]

oh yea? ryan mallet told you that if it was a different coach he would have stayed? same with mario and arrington you say? what, are you on the team?

no, you're just an idiot who thinks if only we had a different coach we could have kept going 7-5, and everything would be happy fairy world. you realize that M's reputation under the last 5 or so years of Carr was about on par with Florida State as a team that wins creampuff games to keep their precious bowl streak alive, and every now and then competes for a conference championship.

yea i suppose you're entitled to your own opinion, but if its a stupid opinion, no one will care what you have to say. and pining over players who are now in the pros makes your opinion stupid.

[tpilews]

You can't use the "Mallett would have stayed" argument. It's pure speculation. You don't know what he would have done. He was widely rumored to be homesick and looking for an excuse to go back home. RR was the perfect excuse. In the end, he went back home. It's not like he went to a great pro-style offense, he went to Arkansas because it was near his home.

The other playmakers just followed suit knowing there was going to be very little passing execution because of who was left at QB.

Western Mich is going to be better than 75% of the teams UM will play in the Big10. So, if UM is able to beat them, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to win 5-6 games in the Big10. No blindfolds needed, thanks anyway.

[tpilews]

As for my pick for the job... I wanted to take a serious look at a defensive minded coach.

Like who???

[Mich97c]

[QUOTE=Columbusisawhore;2534tell me I'm a f-tard, [/QUOTE]

You're a fuc kin tard.

And your wife is fat.

[Inflames]

Everyone has a right to their point of view but this hatred for RR from some U of M fans is to the point of being silly. I have this same conversation with my Father-in-Law who is another U of M fan that is upset with RR and blames everything on him. This season cannot be 100% blamed on RR. It was a multitude of things that lead to this season turning out the way that it did. With the team he had what did you honestly expect? As far as the guys that left the team and you are assuming its due to RR...who cares? When Bo took over almost half the team quit. My God RR has only been here one year, give the guy a chance. I know this is new for us as fans of Michigan Football but ride it out it will get better.


Those who stay will be Champions....

[BLEEDINGBLUE]

You're a fuc kin tard.

And your wife is fat.

Holy shit that is funny, I just almost spit out my beer here during our Company Christmas party when I read that. Very funny Mich!

[Mich97c]

Holy shit that is funny, I just almost spit out my beer here during our Company Christmas party when I read that. Very funny Mich!

As long as you didn't spit out the beer. In these tough economic times please don't waste beer.

[number2]

What's your deal with RR? I mean, I know UM had a horrible year, but that would have, arguably, happened with even God as coach.



I agree RR had everything stacked against him...I believe he misled people by saying he could adapt to his talent (players) but I also believe that he had to push his system on them now and not later...Next year will be better... though I think he could go 9-4 and still be on some people's/fans hot seats. He could lose to ND, MSU, tuos and the bowl and still have people after his balls.
Expectations are always high with Michigan, especially with the fans...but we all realistically know that year 3 is "it"...thats the year Michigan should rise back to the top...if it doesnt happen in season 3 of this new regime then we really should start calling for balls on a platter.

[Bleed Blue]

It wouldn't have happened if a more traditional coach would have been brought in. RR's style of football turned off key players (see Manningham, Arrington, and Mallett) who would have helped us quite a bit on offense this year. At least we'd have had a QB who can throw the ball and receivers who could make plays. It's hard to field a good defense when the offense goes 3 and out nearly every drive and puts the opponent's offense in good field position on a consistent basis. Bottom line, you need to move the ball in order to give your defense a breather and give your team a chance to win. Key players that could have helped us do that weren't there this year. Maybe they will get better next year and Forcier will be the QB Messiah ascending on us from San Diego and turn things around, but my money says he'll be a FRESHMAN QB with no college experience. I'm predicting another lack-luster year for Michigan next year (6-6 if they're lucky... probably more like 4-8 with wins over western, emu, indiana, and purdue). I hope i'm wrong, but I haven't been overly impressed with anything he's done since coming on staff. Think about it... we'd probably be in a bowl this year with Mallett at QB, the young receivers would get another year in the system, and they'd be in position for a decent season in '09. they went from that to being 3-9 this season, out of a bowl game, and looking like they might not make a bowl next year either. For that, I want RR's nutz on a silver platter. We've found out Earl Bruce, his name is Rich Rodriguez. And I'm done for now... go ahead and leave the blindfold on and tell me I'm a f-tard, it's what I expect from most.

I beleive this to be an extremely weak arguement to qualify your ignorant opinion on RR.

First off about the players that left. Mallett as we all know was a pre-madonna...if you couldn't see that last year you obviously didn't watch him play. He wasn't very impressive either with the talent he had last year to target either...go back to the SACK CARR forums to see the threads about how everyone felt about him when he did play...specualtion doesn't hold water. As for Manningham and Arrington, they were going regaurdless of RR coming. Their Stock had peaked...that had nothing to do with RRod's arrival and Carr's Departure. Again weak ass arguement.

Next season we will be fine. This season's W's & L's don't really project the team we had. Again I question you as a fan, if you even watched games, or attended games. More than likely you watched the Sportcenter Highlights and went based on what they showed you. We left games on the table...lack of talent rather than lack of coaching was our issue...again, not seeing that shows your ignorance to the situation.

Fan's like you give Michigan a bad wrap.

[bigboyBlue]

Mallett as we all know was a pre-madonna...


prima donna dude :D...this is what happens when you listen to too much Eminem.

[Bleed Blue]

prima donna dude :D...this is what happens when you listen to too much Eminem.

hahaha for sure...working on a few hours sleep didn't feel like working the brain...Maxwell house can only help so much today. :D

[rickyleach]

Columbusisawhore, why because maybe your not a michigan fan, and yes you are a retard, posting crap like that after one season tells me you are a ohio state poser.. Joke

[Revelli]

I've been a Michigan fan my whole life, and I've also suffered through being a Detroit sports fan my whole life as well... yeah there's the occasional good year (1984 tigers, 1987 tigers (sort of, but i still find it hard to label a season where they traded away john smoltz for doyle alexander and didn't win a series good), 1989 pistons, 1990 pistons, 1997 wings, 1998 wings, 2002 wings, 2008 wings, even 2006 tigers (it was a great story)), BUT the one constant has always been the LIONS ARE HORRIBLE. It looks like there will be another house cleaning at the end of this season (as there should be). In light of that who here would be opposed to just letting Ford have Dikrod? I mean seriously, we can sacrifice the Lions for the greater good can't we? Its not like anything would change... the Lions will STILL be horrible and Michigan might get a shot at landing a decent coach this time around. Just a thought...

I believe Carlos Mencia would say, "Dee-de-Dee!!!!":eek:

[bigboyBlue]

I've been a Michigan fan my whole life, and I've also suffered through being a Detroit sports fan my whole life as well...

True suffering is what happens in Africa and parts of Asia. Its just a game. Give the guy some space and the benefit of a year to show us improvement, and chill.

[Bossgobbler23]

True suffering is what happens in Africa and parts of Asia. Its just a game. Give the guy some space and the benefit of a year to show us improvement, and chill.

Amen to that BBB! I'll even throw in an extra year for luck! LOL

[gator]

It wouldn't have happened if a more traditional coach would have been brought in. RR's style of football turned off key players (see Manningham, Arrington, and Mallett) who would have helped us quite a bit on offense this year. At least we'd have had a QB who can trow the ball and receivers who could make plays. It's hard to field a good defense when the offense goes 3 and out nearly every drive and puts the opponent's offense in good field position on a consistent basis. Bottom line, you need to move the ball in order to give your defense a breather and give your team a chance to win. Key players that could have helped us do that weren't there this year. Maybe they will get better next year and Forcier will be the QB Messiah ascending on us from San Diego and turn things around, but my money says he'll be a FRESHMAN QB with no college experience. I'm predicting another lack-luster year for Michigan next year (6-6 if they're lucky... probably more like 4-8 with wins over western, emu, indiana, and purdue). I hope i'm wrong, but I haven't been overly impressed with anything he's done since coming on staff. Think about it... we'd probably be in a bowl this year with Mallett at QB, the young receivers would get another year in the system, and they'd be in position for a decent season in '09. they went from that to being 3-9 this season, out of a bowl game, and looking like they might not make a bowl next year either. For that, I want RR's nutz on a silver platter. We've found out Earl Bruce, his name is Rich Rodriguez. And I'm done for now... go ahead and leave the blindfold on and tell me I'm a f-tard, it's what I expect from most.

Yeah, I don't see your point either. I mean give the guy a chance. You may have had a point if those guys you mentioned had stayed. At least then you could say he misused some talent. Mallett was not even a strong argument though because he wasn't a proven veteran or anything. The talent wasn't there this year, regarless of why they left. As someone pointed out previosly, having a lot of players leave isn't always bad sign. I can think of another scenario which was Bear Bryant's first year with Texas A&M. I know it's kind of apples to oranges here because RR didn't achieve attrition through physical stress, but it may work out all the same. He's opening up scholarships to get his kind of players in there. I'm fairly confident that he'll get your program turned around; so don't fret too much. From the threads I've been following, it doesn't sound like the offense will be very deep this year, particularly at QB, but I think UM will be pleasantly suprised by the progress next year. By his 3rd year, I honestly believe you could be favored to win the Big10, the way it suppossed to be. At least that's how this outside observer sees it.

[GoDeepHammer]

True suffering is what happens in Africa and parts of Asia. Its just a game. Give the guy some space and the benefit of a year to show us improvement, and chill.

Someone gets it. If this is as bad as we ever suffer, we are way ahead of most.

[GoDeepHammer]

Yeah, I don't see your point either. I mean give the guy a chance. You may have had a point if those guys you mentioned had stayed. At least then you could say he misused some talent. Mallett was not even a strong argument though because he wasn't a proven veteran or anything. The talent wasn't there this year, regarless of why they left. As someone pointed out previosly, having a lot of players leave isn't always bad sign. I can think of another scenario which was Bear Bryant's first year with Texas A&M. I know it's kind of apples to oranges here because RR didn't achieve attrition through physical stress, but it may work out all the same. He's opening up scholarships to get his kind of players in there. I'm fairly confident that he'll get your program turned around; so don't fret too much. From the threads I've been following, it doesn't sound like the offense will be very deep this year, particularly at QB, but I think UM will be pleasantly suprised by the progress next year. By his 3rd year, I honestly believe you could be favored to win the Big10, the way it suppossed to be. At least that's how this outside observer sees it.


What about Bo, he had a ton of kids leave his first year. It happens with any new coach and new scheme.

[Columbusisawhore]

What about Bo, he had a ton of kids leave his first year. It happens with any new coach and new scheme.

The Bo years:

69: 8-3 (not 3-9)
70: 9-1
71: 11-1
72: 10-1
73: 10-0-1
74: 10-1
75: 8-2-2
76: 10-2
77: 10-2
78: 10-2
79: 8-4
80: 10-2
81: 9-3
82: 8-4
83: 9-3
84: 6-6 (STILL not 3-9)
85: 10-1-1
86: 11-2
87: 8-4
88: 9-2-1
89: 10-1

Don't see any 3-9 seasons there. in factit is going to take RR until his third season at Michigan to match Bo's WORST season, so please spare me the "Bo had people leave too" horse-shit... RR isn't in the same league as Bo. Prepare to be just like Nebraska after Osbourne left. 4-8 next year and I'll be the first to say "i told you so dumbass" when it happens and you are all screaming for his head. pull your head out of your ass and open your eyes.

[BBA1994]

The Bo years:

69: 8-3 (not 3-9)
70: 9-1
71: 11-1
72: 10-1
73: 10-0-1
74: 10-1
75: 8-2-2
76: 10-2
77: 10-2
78: 10-2
79: 8-4
80: 10-2
81: 9-3
82: 8-4
83: 9-3
84: 6-6 (STILL not 3-9)
85: 10-1-1
86: 11-2
87: 8-4
88: 9-2-1
89: 10-1

Don't see any 3-9 seasons there. in factit is going to take RR until his third season at Michigan to match Bo's WORST season, so please spare me the "Bo had people leave too" horse-shit... RR isn't in the same league as Bo. Prepare to be just like Nebraska after Osbourne left. 4-8 next year and I'll be the first to say "i told you so dumbass" when it happens and you are all screaming for his head. pull your head out of your ass and open your eyes.


You're a twat. If you don't like the program's direction then just go root for MSU. They're always looking for more twat fans.

[tpilews]

1969

1969 - on that team he took over, there turned out to be 28 all-Big Ten players, nine All-Americans and, oh yeah, three players that went into the College Football Hall of Fame.


How about this year? 2 all-Big Ten players. B. Graham, and Z. Mesko.

You can throw all the stats that you want at it. But, you can't hide the fact that there was little to no talent or experience on this 2008 team.

[blueisbetterthanred]

College football for Bo didn't have the parity it has today. Powerhouses stayed that way. Not taking anything at all away from Bo, just saying you can't use his lack of 3-9 to show that RR is a bad coach. It was a totally, completely different league.

[amazinblue]

The Bo years:

Don't see any 3-9 seasons there. in factit is going to take RR until his third season at Michigan to match Bo's WORST season, so please spare me the "Bo had people leave too" horse-shit... RR isn't in the same league as Bo. Prepare to be just like Nebraska after Osbourne left. 4-8 next year and I'll be the first to say "i told you so dumbass" when it happens and you are all screaming for his head. pull your head out of your ass and open your eyes.

Columbus,

If Michigan has the "trouble" you predict, and is 4-8 next year - I'll wear an OSU Nike sweater vest every weekend in December. However, if Michigan is better than .500 next season, will you do me a favor and stick your head back up your a$$?

Also, if Michigan gets to that 6 or more win season NEXT year and competes for the Big 10 title in 2010, will you show a sign at a Michigan game that says something like "RR - I was wrong, I didn't think you could do it. I'm sorry I doubted you - please forgive me. I guess that I'm a Dumba$$ after all."

Please let me know if you're interested in this wager.

Also (Columbusisawhore) - I don't know if you can actually read - but, if you can - why don't you head down to your local bookstore or library and pick up a book or two that Bo wrote that described his concerns about college football. Bo expressed concerns about scholarship limits, freshman playing (rather than redshirting), and the media attention on the game. So, the parity that exists in the game was predictable, and the reduced scholarship limits effect all programs, but most notably the premiere programs that don't have the depth they once did. I'm confident Michigan will return to the upper echelon of college football programs - and we'll return there sooner than many like you think. RR has the ability to get us there - it does require a bit of faith during trying times, but - to quote a line from The Shawshank Redemption - "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things." I'm hoping Michigan does it next season - but even if we struggle, we'll be there in 2010...

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

yea, we should FIRE RR NOW!
if our new coach doesn't go undefeated, WE SHOULD FIRE HIM TOO!!!
and SO FORTH UNTIL WE WIN A NC!!!
all great programs are COACHING CAROUSELS!!! JUST ASK MSU!!!
COLUMBUS IS A WHORE IS A DOUCHE!!!
MY POST LOOKS LIKE A RICKYLEACH POST!!!