Motivation

[sbblue32]

Seems to me that today the team wasn't ready to play today. Maybe we had a bad week of practice but it seems that we were satisfied with losing this game the moment we stepped on the field. I think that responsibility falls on the head coach to get his players prepared and fired up to play the game. That includes discipline and execution which was absent from the game! What are all of your thoughts in regards to the effort, motivation, lack of discipline, and execution in the game today?

[rickyleach]

i couldnt agree more , watching yesterdays game was like watching a rerun of just about every 2008 game, there is no excuse for how that team played, does our d no who they are , because this defense looks lost most of the time, and on offense you wont beat a single team if you cant hold on to the football , what the hell happend to koger , mr sure hands turned into mr brickhands.

[number2]

Seems to me that today the team wasn't ready to play today. Maybe we had a bad week of practice but it seems that we were satisfied with losing this game the moment we stepped on the field. I think that responsibility falls on the head coach to get his players prepared and fired up to play the game. That includes discipline and execution which was absent from the game! What are all of your thoughts in regards to the effort, motivation, lack of discipline, and execution in the game today?

I dont think anyone was on the same page yesterday...Warren looked like he wasnt even trying during some key points of the game...I wonder if RR knows how to motivate instead of just yelling at everyone. I understand coaches yell at their players but it should be done to motivate as well. It almost appears as though he just yells and makes faces like a bully and makes everyone including his coaches very nervous and timid.

[1OSUNUT]

Number 2 -

I could not agree more. I was thinking the exact same thing and the word Bully came to mind. Early in the year RR was more upbeat and positive - but lately that has seemed to change. He seems a lot more violent on the sidelines and it seems to be effecting the players. Tate does seem timid around RR - and the players are playing tight. They honestly look afraid to make a mistake. The way RR was yelling at his assistant coaches yesterday really surprised me as well. This is an ugly side of RR that many did not know he had or a side that they have never seen before. If the coach is not calm and under control - how can the players be. It looks like the stress and pressure of a job like Michigan is starting to get to RR a bit. What is going to happen IF Ohio State comes in and does the same thing Penn State did - he is going to kill somebody.

[RealwomenwearMaizeNBlue]

I'm sooo surprised to keep hearing all the fuss about RR yelling at the players. It's football people. We were upset with Carr for his lack of emotion on the sideline & now that we have RR - you all want the stone statue back. Can't have it both ways folks. I like RR - I'm pretty sure that there is no doubt in the players minds were they stand with him. If they make a good play he's there to congratulate them when they come off the field - if they screw up...they are going to hear about it. He's holding everyone accountable - even the assistant coaches.

[GoDeepHammer]

I'm sooo surprised to keep hearing all the fuss about RR yelling at the players. It's football people. We were upset with Carr for his lack of emotion on the sideline & now that we have RR - you all want the stone statue back. Can't have it both ways folks. I like RR - I'm pretty sure that there is no doubt in the players minds were they stand with him. If they make a good play he's there to congratulate them when they come off the field - if they screw up...they are going to hear about it. He's holding everyone accountable - even the assistant coaches.

Exactly, I feel the same way. I can't believe that everyone has such a problem with these kids getting yelled at. This is football and RR has very high expectations for these kids. If they don't produce, they are going to hear about it.

[NorCal Buckeye]

I'm sooo surprised to keep hearing all the fuss about RR yelling at the players. It's football people. We were upset with Carr for his lack of emotion on the sideline & now that we have RR - you all want the stone statue back. Can't have it both ways folks. I like RR - I'm pretty sure that there is no doubt in the players minds were they stand with him. If they make a good play he's there to congratulate them when they come off the field - if they screw up...they are going to hear about it. He's holding everyone accountable - even the assistant coaches.

Somebody should get him a giant sized mirror for his giant sized ego so he can yell at himself for being the biggest screw up in the program. Who's holding him accountable for his mistakes?:rolleyes:

[eyesoftexas]

With the AD retiring, he may be feeling the heat in these days of "What have you done for me lately?" People were all over JT last week. He saved TOSU from the embarassment of losing to UM every year, and even he gets heat when they lose. Fans really do get "miserable." these days after a loss.

[OMAZENBLUE]

There is something clearly wrong with this team and I agree that the players might be to uptight because of RR's antic's, and I'm not just talking about the yelling on the sidelines. I understand that this is football and the coach is going to yell and at times for good reason, but but constant yelling after each bad play is not coaching! It's self frustration being taken out on the players.

The problem that seems to be the worst to me is the constant changing of players from QB to the running backs position and the receivers. Yes I understand RR method in keeping the players fresh but he is not letting this team get into the flow of the game. If somebody makes a bad play then somebody else takes their spot. I think that is causing the players to be uptight and constantly looking over their shoulders.

If a player is worried about making a mistake and has that mindset on the field, well then most likely he will make a mistake since that is what he is focused on.

When Michigan hits the field I believe every player is thinking ( I ) instead of ( Team ) I think in their heads they are saying man( I ) hope ( I ) don't make a mistake or ( I ) will get pulled! And that is the kinda of focus that leads to this shitty play.

I for one am tired of watching Tate being used like a dummy, yes he is a true freshman and is going to make plenty of mistakes, but this kid has shown to have the poise and the leadership it takes to run this team. I do not see the need for the constant change at QB everytime he makes a mistake, it is DESTROYING HIS CONFIDENCE. Michigan was doing great at the beginning of the season for one reason and that was Tate! It was Tate's improvision that was keeping defense's off balanced. And now I think Tate is to scared to improvise as he has to look over his shoulder all the time that Denard will take the next serious and fear the sideline speech from RR.

[OMAZENBLUE]

Exactly, I feel the same way. I can't believe that everyone has such a problem with these kids getting yelled at. This is football and RR has very high expectations for these kids. If they don't produce, they are going to hear about it.

You can keep saying that this is football and yelling is good for all you want, but the truth is, is that it is not 1960 no more and the times have changed from the Bo and Woody era!

Kids do not respond as well to the yelling as they did back then and I believe that has to do with the way kids are coddled now in sports as they grow up.

Look, I'm not saying to baby these kids! But to be a good coach these days, you have to understand your players and realize that they all have different buttons to push. Some respond to the yelling and some don't. Coaching is just not X'S AND O'S.

I have four kids and all four respond different adversary and I as a parent have to know what buttons to push to get that positive response. I can't just yell at them for everything they do wrong. What the hell does that do for them. If anything it just made them more timid of me.

I understand that you all think that it is football and it sounds tough to say yelling is good, but just watch the sidelines of the dominant programs in the country and tell me what you see.

[Vested_Interest]

...We were upset with Carr for his lack of emotion on the sideline & now that we have RR - you all want the stone statue back. Can't have it both ways folks.

I think there's a middle ground that's been sorely overshot by both, but as far as Rodriguez is concerned, that ground is well beyond the scope of his rear view mirror!

Sure, there's a fine line between a fiery guy and a complete douchebag; but RR crossed over that line ...long before he ever stepped foot in Ann Arbor.

[GoDeepHammer]

Somebody should get him a giant sized mirror for his giant sized ego so he can yell at himself for being the biggest screw up in the program. Who's holding him accountable for his mistakes?:rolleyes:

I believe that he holds himself accountable for his mistakes. I don't think that I have heard him pass the buck.

[GoDeepHammer]

You can keep saying that this is football and yelling is good for all you want, but the truth is, is that it is not 1960 no more and the times have changed from the Bo and Woody era!

Kids do not respond as well to the yelling as they did back then and I believe that has to do with the way kids are coddled now in sports as they grow up.

Look, I'm not saying to baby these kids! But to be a good coach these days, you have to understand your players and realize that they all have different buttons to push. Some respond to the yelling and some don't. Coaching is just not X'S AND O'S.

I have four kids and all four respond different adversary and I as a parent have to know what buttons to push to get that positive response. I can't just yell at them for everything they do wrong. What the hell does that do for them. If anything it just made them more timid of me.

I understand that you all think that it is football and it sounds tough to say yelling is good, but just watch the sidelines of the dominant programs in the country and tell me what you see.

Wow, let's give in and talk to the kids when they screw up. Kids need to be to be talked to as not to hurt their feelings. I see why things are the way they are now in the country. Don't be to mean to the kids, treat them like they are china and their huge ego will be bruised if you yell at them. I have a way to fix that, play better, make better decisions, then you don't get yelled at. Let's remember you only see what is on TV, you don't see what goes on behind the scenes. Give me a break. It seems that the problem with the kids is the absence of the discipline of Bo. I love the fact that RR is hard core on the sidelines. I think that RR has the Bo mentality and that can only make us better. If these kids are a little scared, and they know what is going to happen when they screw up on the sidelines, maybe they play a little harder.

As for the elite programs, they are established programs and have proven themselves year after year. RR is laying the ground work to building that type of program. He wants these kids to come in and fight for their jobs and give 110% on the field and everyday. It’s funny that these kids talk about the family atmosphere and how much they love the coaching staff.

As a parent too, I know the line that you have to dance between friend and parent, but let’s not put judgment on the tough part of RR football families life, without seeing the rest of their lives.

[RADRACING]

Like everybody didn't know this would happen when we put a bunch of undersized players with happy feet playing against Big Ten power teams, funny thing is Minor the power back is his best weapon. RR needs to take a step back and reevaluate what direction the team is headed. Start recruiting some prototypical size players, instead of 2 and 3 star undersized overachievers who are in over their head trying to overachieve to the degree required.

[GoDeepHammer]

Like everybody didn't know this would happen when we put a bunch of undersized players with happy feet playing against Big Ten power teams, funny thing is Minor the power back is his best weapon. RR needs to take a step back and reevaluate what direction the team is headed. Start recruiting some prototypical size players, instead of 2 and 3 star undersized overachievers who are in over their head trying to overachieve to the degree required.

Must be Iowa isn't that good, because our undersized overachievers did a great job against them. You people kill me. Yesterday was the only game that we were truely not in and now the panic is on.

[rickyleach]

Norcal , you must be talkin about your coach jimmy fast talkin tressel , he needs to look in the mirror to see if his nose is growing , it wont be long b4 you are supporting what i keep saying about tressy ..

[RADRACING]

Everyone is trying to over analysis everything, PSU was just a better team with better talent, that simple wasn't a motivation thing.

[GoDeepHammer]

Everyone is trying to over analysis everything, PSU was just a better team with better talent, that simple wasn't a motivation thing.

PSU played well and we didn't.

[Buzz]

To me, it looked like the players were intimidated, as they played like they were scared. I wouldn't think the Michigan players are afraid to play for RichRod...but I do think they felt alot of pressure during this game. Pressure is part of the game if you sign up to play for Michigan.

RichRod is holding them responsible. You don't put a week's worth in only to turn around and damn near do a better job of beating yourself than the opposing team. BooBoo has a scholly, but doesn't know how to play. Haven't really seen him get yelled for making consistent mistakes, but he mouthed off and ended up getting suspended. It turns out that coaches do care about the player's well being cause he played yesterday when I can't say he actually deserves to play.

Sometimes the coach is gonna yell and say things a player doesn't really want to hear, I think it's kinda done in an effort to get players comfortable with being uncomfortable; they gotta learn how to operate outside of their comfort zone; cause it's more about growth, improvement, and expression than anything else.

If you look at it...does all the scholarship Wolverines actually deserve that scholly? I don't know, but they're definitely in a helluva situation. Look at Kovacs a walk-on, think he cries about the fact that coaches don't even know what his name? Nope he's focused on proving his self on the field. Alot of the players can learn from him. Shouldn't worry about getting yelled at, the Wolverines just gotta focus on making plays.

[Buzz]

This what the Michigan football team need to happen...like yesterday; I wanna see camera views of the defense after a possesion change where the defense is sitting on the bench, and one guy (Graham, Warren, or whoever) is walking the bench, yelling and making exaggerated movements in an effort to inspire the unit for the upcoming series. I wanna see the same for the offense. And it doesn't have to be a player, it could be a UNIT coach.

RichRod is yelling and making constant on-the-spot corrections because of a need to, not so much as a have-to. That's the type of thing that needs to happen. Player accountability;leadership is key for any winning program, and until that starts to happen with my Wolverines, I don't care who signs up to play in Ann Arbor, they will continue to have games where people and fans perceive it as a let-down performance. People will continue to ask...what's wrong with Michigan?

[number2]

Must be Iowa isn't that good, because our undersized overachievers did a great job against them. You people kill me. Yesterday was the only game that we were truely not in and now the panic is on.

because one might say yesterdays game was the first real test, the first real team we've played so far this year...and they powered through us like we were Delaware St...and its was a home game for us as well. I do think PSU is the best team in the BigTen...if PSU played Iowa 10 times theyd win 9 of them...unfortunately for PSU Iowa got em in the first try. I just dont think Iowa is that good. Then again there really isnt any "Great" teams this year it seems so who knows

[NorCal Buckeye]

There is something clearly wrong with this team and I agree that the players might be to uptight because of RR's antic's, and I'm not just talking about the yelling on the sidelines. I understand that this is football and the coach is going to yell and at times for good reason, but but constant yelling after each bad play is not coaching! It's self frustration being taken out on the players.

The problem that seems to be the worst to me is the constant changing of players from QB to the running backs position and the receivers. Yes I understand RR method in keeping the players fresh but he is not letting this team get into the flow of the game. If somebody makes a bad play then somebody else takes their spot. I think that is causing the players to be uptight and constantly looking over their shoulders.

If a player is worried about making a mistake and has that mindset on the field, well then most likely he will make a mistake since that is what he is focused on.

When Michigan hits the field I believe every player is thinking ( I ) instead of ( Team ) I think in their heads they are saying man( I ) hope ( I ) don't make a mistake or ( I ) will get pulled! And that is the kinda of focus that leads to this shitty play.

I for one am tired of watching Tate being used like a dummy, yes he is a true freshman and is going to make plenty of mistakes, but this kid has shown to have the poise and the leadership it takes to run this team. I do not see the need for the constant change at QB everytime he makes a mistake, it is DESTROYING HIS CONFIDENCE. Michigan was doing great at the beginning of the season for one reason and that was Tate! It was Tate's improvision that was keeping defense's off balanced. And now I think Tate is to scared to improvise as he has to look over his shoulder all the time that Denard will take the next serious and fear the sideline speech from RR.

You're hitting the truth here 'Blue. Uptight, stressed out people don't perform at their best. Stress actually makes people do stupid things.

And how do we know whether it is the player's fault for the on field mistakes? Maybe, at least sometimes, they are doing what they are supposed to be doing and they end up getting burned because of poor schemes or coaching. Then they get the ass chewing for it. That's not fair, it creates resentment, and does not address the root problem. Coaching?:rolleyes:

[GoDeepHammer]

because one might say yesterdays game was the first real test, the first real team we've played so far this year...and they powered through us like we were Delaware St...and its was a home game for us as well. I do think PSU is the best team in the BigTen...if PSU played Iowa 10 times theyd win 9 of them...unfortunately for PSU Iowa got em in the first try. I just dont think Iowa is that good. Then again there really isnt any "Great" teams this year it seems so who knows

I guess Iowa wasn't a real team? The number one team in the Big Ten, the team that handed PSU their butts. To bad that PSU only gets to play Iowa once this year, because Iowa won the game.

[OMAZENBLUE]

Losing + constant yelling will create desension amongst this team! For those of you who do not think so then just imagine yourself at your job and everytime you make a mistake your boss is in your ear. Well human nature takes over and you start to complain to co-workers and word travels and people takes sides and then you have division. Ask your self if you would rather have your boss call you in the office and talk to you or would you rather have him himiliate you in front of all your co-workers? You know the answer! Are you prone to make your boss richer if he is an ass all of the time? Hell no your not!

I was in the Infantry airborne for 10 years and when you join the military you go through basic and that is where they test your limits and weed out the week and as you progress in basic the Drill sargents starts to take on a new role and starts to treat you like a human with respect and makes you feel apart of the team because they have already taken you to a limit. It is the same thing with football! You go through twoadays and practice and the buttons are pushed and should be, we all want players that can handle the pressure in the heat of the moment. But coaching has to take over at some point without embarrassing a player on the sidelines after every play. These kids work harder then probably all of us and when you put that much effort and sacrifice into something and you are losing and constantly belittle on the sidelines, well then it will only down spiral from there.

I guarantee for all of you that act like you a tough guy on here, that you would not be able to even handle what these kids go through on a daily bases.

Don't give me this football crap! Not buying it! Coach's like Chris Peterson from Boise State are a prime example of a coach that is under control and gets the most out of his team WITH VERY LIMITED TALENT! These kids respect and want to win for the guy!

Players want to play for somebody they respect and trust! And you cant get that respect and trust if you are only happy when you are winning! If you panic and act like an idiot on the sidelines when things are going tuff then your team will follow that example on the field!

I understand the pressure is on RR to win in AA and I for one support him, but he does need to get his emotions under control if he wants his teams respect!

Remember a team will take the idenity of it's coach! And Michigan is doing just that! Stressed, Panic, incosistant!

This team has not progressed since the Notre Dame game, yes they have been spotty and showing flashes in one area and then the next week it digresses and another area shows a spark and repeat process!

Two weeks ago everybody was on here saying that our defense played it';s best game against Iowa and they were improving, well two weeks later they look like shit again! Where is the improvement?

This team has played one complete game this year and that was against Western Michigan when they were trying to rally around RR. Clearly they were focused in that game! We all thought we just witnessed what we have all hoped for. Well since then it has looked like the lasts year team being put out on the field, Turnovers, penalties, Dropped passes, miss tackling, poor reads, vanilla play calling, And a stressed sideline!

[number2]

I guess Iowa wasn't a real team? The number one team in the Big Ten, the team that handed PSU their butts. To bad that PSU only gets to play Iowa once this year, because Iowa won the game.

If you wouldve read the rest of my post instead of stopping half way through to respond your question wouldve been answered and you wouldve known my position and opinion of Iowa.

[GoDeepHammer]

Losing + constant yelling will create desension amongst this team! For those of you who do not think so then just imagine yourself at your job and everytime you make a mistake your boss is in your ear. Well human nature takes over and you start to complain to co-workers and word travels and people takes sides and then you have division. Ask your self if you would rather have your boss call you in the office and talk to you or would you rather have him himiliate you in front of all your co-workers? You know the answer! Are you prone to make your boss richer if he is an ass all of the time? Hell no your not!

I was in the Infantry airborne for 10 years and when you join the military you go through basic and that is where they test your limits and weed out the week and as you progress in basic the Drill sargents starts to take on a new role and starts to treat you like a human with respect and makes you feel apart of the team because they have already taken you to a limit. It is the same thing with football! You go through twoadays and practice and the buttons are pushed and should be, we all want players that can handle the pressure in the heat of the moment. But coaching has to take over at some point without embarrassing a player on the sidelines after every play. These kids work harder then probably all of us and when you put that much effort and sacrifice into something and you are losing and constantly belittle on the sidelines, well then it will only down spiral from there.

I guarantee for all of you that act like you a tough guy on here, that you would not be able to even handle what these kids go through on a daily bases.

Don't give me this football crap! Not buying it! Coach's like Chris Peterson from Boise State are a prime example of a coach that is under control and gets the most out of his team WITH VERY LIMITED TALENT! These kids respect and want to win for the guy!

Players want to play for somebody they respect and trust! And you cant get that respect and trust if you are only happy when you are winning! If you panic and act like an idiot on the sidelines when things are going tuff then your team will follow that example on the field!

I understand the pressure is on RR to win in AA and I for one support him, but he does need to get his emotions under control if he wants his teams respect!

Remember a team will take the idenity of it's coach! And Michigan is doing just that! Stressed, Panic, incosistant!

This team has not progressed since the Notre Dame game, yes they have been spotty and showing flashes in one area and then the next week it digresses and another area shows a spark and repeat process!

Two weeks ago everybody was on here saying that our defense played it';s best game against Iowa and they were improving, well two weeks later they look like shit again! Where is the improvement?

This team has played one complete game this year and that was against Western Michigan when they were trying to rally around RR. Clearly they were focused in that game! We all thought we just witnessed what we have all hoped for. Well since then it has looked like the lasts year team being put out on the field, Turnovers, penalties, Dropped passes, miss tackling, poor reads, vanilla play calling, And a stressed sideline!

Young team is going to have ups and downs. That is the way it is.

RR yells, it's the way it is. If these kids want to be talked to like infants let them go to a kinder and gentler football program.

[GoDeepHammer]

If you wouldve read the rest of my post instead of stopping half way through to respond your question wouldve been answered and you wouldve known my position and opinion of Iowa.

Thanks, I read the entire post. Just could care less about these 9 out of 10 things. You only get one time to play and the better team is given the win of the only time that they play. Opinion doesn't really come into it.

[number2]

Thanks, I read the entire post. Just could care less about these 9 out of 10 things. You only get one time to play and the better team is given the win of the only time that they play. Opinion doesn't really come into it.

Im not here to split hairs...I simply stated that I dont think Iowa is what their record shows...they are powering through the mediocre BigTen beating teams by slim margins in the closing minutes of the game. Yes I know that good teams find a way to win and thats what Iowa appears to be doing...and Im no Mark May or Jesse Palmer but Id be willing to bet PSU will be seen as the best of the BigTen at seasons end...and that was my point...I thought yesterdays game was the first true test for Michigan...and they failed miserably

[sbblue32]

Rich needs to realize that being a complete ass to his players makes them despise him and perform worse. Also as you guys said about Tate being treated like a dummy ever since he got pulled or whatever happened at Iowa, he seems to be over-thinking on the field and is scared to make a mistake. Sure RR you can yell at your lineman like dogs and get them pissed of to go out and block but when you treat your finesse players like crap especially your QB you set them up for failure and put unnecessary pressure on them. Give Tate his confidence back which includes putting in Denard in whenever he makes a mistake or isn't playing amazing. I don't understand how a college coach can't relate to his players!

[RealwomenwearMaizeNBlue]

I'm so sick of the "Politically Correct" bullcrap now I could scream. That fact people want to drag it into how you freakin' coach a football team is nuts. My schools Jr High girls basketball coach yells from tip to buzzer and it's 10 & 11 year GIRLS...not 18-20 year old men. If you can't handle being told you've screwed up at this stage of the game - your playing the wrong sport.

[Vested_Interest]

I'm so sick of the "Politically Correct" bullcrap now I could scream.[...]

That makes two of us. :)

Now STFU, and go make me a sandwich.

[amazinblue]

That makes two of us. :)

Now STFU, and go make me a sandwich.

VI,

You exemplify the difference between OSU and Michigan fans. An avid OSU fan like you - says this "go make me a sandwich". When a Michgan Man speaks to a woman, he'll say - "honey, why don't we get into bed and just have some fun..."

[Buzz]

I'm so sick of the "Politically Correct" bullcrap now I could scream. That fact people want to drag it into how you freakin' coach a football team is nuts. My schools Jr High girls basketball coach yells from tip to buzzer and it's 10 & 11 year GIRLS...not 18-20 year old men. If you can't handle being told you've screwed up at this stage of the game - your playing the wrong sport.

That's what I'm talking about....totally agree with u.

[Vested_Interest]

VI,

You exemplify the difference between OSU and Michigan fans. An avid OSU fan like you - says this "go make me a sandwich". When a Michgan Man speaks to a woman, he'll say - "honey, why don't we get into bed and just have some fun..."

Point taken, AB. I stand admonished.

RealwomenwearMaizeNBlue,

Honey, why don't we get into bed and just have some fun. Then, afterward, you can go make me a sandwich.

[Buzz]

Point taken, AB. I stand admonished.

RealwomenwearMaizeNBlue,

Honey, why don't we get into bed and just have some fun. Then, afterward, you can go make me a sandwich.

Come on now....that's pretty weak, talkin' to a woman like that

[Vested_Interest]

Come on now....that's pretty weak, talkin' to a woman like that

What? She claimed to be "sick of the 'Politically Correct' bullcrap"! I was simply expressing my agreement.

[NorCal Buckeye]

Losing + constant yelling will create desension amongst this team! For those of you who do not think so then just imagine yourself at your job and everytime you make a mistake your boss is in your ear. Well human nature takes over and you start to complain to co-workers and word travels and people takes sides and then you have division. Ask your self if you would rather have your boss call you in the office and talk to you or would you rather have him himiliate you in front of all your co-workers? You know the answer! Are you prone to make your boss richer if he is an ass all of the time? Hell no your not!

I was in the Infantry airborne for 10 years and when you join the military you go through basic and that is where they test your limits and weed out the week and as you progress in basic the Drill sargents starts to take on a new role and starts to treat you like a human with respect and makes you feel apart of the team because they have already taken you to a limit. It is the same thing with football! You go through twoadays and practice and the buttons are pushed and should be, we all want players that can handle the pressure in the heat of the moment. But coaching has to take over at some point without embarrassing a player on the sidelines after every play. These kids work harder then probably all of us and when you put that much effort and sacrifice into something and you are losing and constantly belittle on the sidelines, well then it will only down spiral from there.

I guarantee for all of you that act like you a tough guy on here, that you would not be able to even handle what these kids go through on a daily bases.

Don't give me this football crap! Not buying it! Coach's like Chris Peterson from Boise State are a prime example of a coach that is under control and gets the most out of his team WITH VERY LIMITED TALENT! These kids respect and want to win for the guy!

Players want to play for somebody they respect and trust! And you cant get that respect and trust if you are only happy when you are winning! If you panic and act like an idiot on the sidelines when things are going tuff then your team will follow that example on the field!

I understand the pressure is on RR to win in AA and I for one support him, but he does need to get his emotions under control if he wants his teams respect!

Remember a team will take the idenity of it's coach! And Michigan is doing just that! Stressed, Panic, incosistant!

This team has not progressed since the Notre Dame game, yes they have been spotty and showing flashes in one area and then the next week it digresses and another area shows a spark and repeat process!

Two weeks ago everybody was on here saying that our defense played it';s best game against Iowa and they were improving, well two weeks later they look like shit again! Where is the improvement?

This team has played one complete game this year and that was against Western Michigan when they were trying to rally around RR. Clearly they were focused in that game! We all thought we just witnessed what we have all hoped for. Well since then it has looked like the lasts year team being put out on the field, Turnovers, penalties, Dropped passes, miss tackling, poor reads, vanilla play calling, And a stressed sideline!

Well said, once again. If you treat your players like idiots and d-bags that is what they will become. There is a right way and a wrong way to coach. The winners maintain their poise, composure, and encourage their players when they need encouragement the most. The losers panic, meltdown, and abandon their players. What does this say about RR?:rolleyes:

[amazinblue]

Well said, once again. If you treat your players like idiots and d-bags that is what they will become. There is a right way and a wrong way to coach. The winners maintain their poise, composure, and encourage their players when they need encouragement the most. The losers panic, meltdown, and abandon their players. What does this say about RR?:rolleyes:

NorCal,

Then - I assume you are saying that Bo and Woody were bad coaches...

[Don Unverferth]

Rich needs to realize that being a complete ass to his players makes them despise him and perform worse. Also as you guys said about Tate being treated like a dummy ever since he got pulled or whatever happened at Iowa, he seems to be over-thinking on the field and is scared to make a mistake. Sure RR you can yell at your lineman like dogs and get them pissed of to go out and block but when you treat your finesse players like crap especially your QB you set them up for failure and put unnecessary pressure on them. Give Tate his confidence back which includes putting in Denard in whenever he makes a mistake or isn't playing amazing. I don't understand how a college coach can't relate to his players!

Apparently RRod is an ass to his coaches as well. I don't think I've ever witnessed a assistant coach screaming at a head coach in D1 ball. Bo never would have had that happen in his program. Was that Fred Jackson screaming at RRod? Remember last years OSU game when the players were screaming at the coaches? Weird!

[amazinblue]

Apparently RRod is an ass to his coaches as well. I don't think I've ever witnessed a assistant coach screaming at a head coach in D1 ball. Bo never would have had that happen in his program. Was that Fred Jackson screaming at RRod? Remember last years OSU game when the players were screaming at the coaches? Weird!

Don,

There were twelve players on the field. If I'm not mistaken it was a fourth and four. If PSU snaps the ball - boom - twelve men on the field (though the refs didn't call it when PSU had 12 players) - Michigan burns a timeout. A timeout, that - by the way, might have come in handy at the end of the half when TF stopped the clock with 12 seconds left to play - and Michigan settled for a field goal instead of having one extra shot at the end zone.

Timeouts really aren't that important. Burning one because we put the wrong players on the field - or had too many on the field shouldn't be a big problem at all. And, RR shouldn't be "so disappointed" about it.

The implications of that timeout are - Michigan would have had one more shot at the end zone. We might have put four more points on the board. We might have generated momentum going into halftime - against a tough opponent.

Yeah - it really wasn't that important - or avoidable - at all....

By the way - which teams do you coach in your spare time...

And - both you and NorCal seem to know so much about Bo - and his mannerisms. Where did you gain such knowledge? Trust me - Bo would not have been very happy with that - and, had Bo been on the sidelines instead of RR - I'm willing to bet his headset would have been "casually dropped" to the ground... Bo didn't have a temper at all... things rarely disturbed him or got him upset... Neither did Woody.

[Don Unverferth]

Don,

There were twelve players on the field. If I'm not mistaken it was a fourth and four. If PSU snaps the ball - boom - twelve men on the field (though the refs didn't call it when PSU had 12 players) - Michigan burns a timeout. A timeout, that - by the way, might have come in handy at the end of the half when TF stopped the clock with 12 seconds left to play - and Michigan settled for a field goal instead of having one extra shot at the end zone.

Timeouts really aren't that important. Burning one because we put the wrong players on the field - or had too many on the field shouldn't be a big problem at all. And, RR shouldn't be "so disappointed" about it.

The implications of that timeout are - Michigan would have had one more shot at the end zone. We might have put four more points on the board. We might have generated momentum going into halftime - against a tough opponent.

Yeah - it really wasn't that important - or avoidable - at all....

By the way - which teams do you coach in your spare time...

And - both you and NorCal seem to know so much about Bo - and his mannerisms. Where did you gain such knowledge? Trust me - Bo would not have been very happy with that - and, had Bo been on the sidelines instead of RR - I'm willing to bet his headset would have been "casually dropped" to the ground... Bo didn't have a temper at all... things rarely disturbed him or got him upset... Neither did Woody.

Relax. I was questioning the exchange between Jackson and RRod. Since when does an assistant coach berate a head coach? The point is Bo would have received much more respect from his coaching staff.

[amazinblue]

Relax. I was questioning the exchange between Jackson and RRod. Since when does an assistant coach berate a head coach? The point is Bo would have received much more respect from his coaching staff.

Don,

What exactly did Jackson and RRod say to each other? And, perhaps RRod is more open to in-game discussions with his coaches than Bo was.

[Don Unverferth]

Don,

What exactly did Jackson and RRod say to each other? And, perhaps RRod is more open to in-game discussions with his coaches than Bo was.

In-Game discussion????

You didn't see it? It's been re-played many times. Jackson (I think it was jackson) got right back in RRod's face after RRod screamed at him about the 12 men time out.

[amazinblue]

In-Game discussion????

You didn't see it? It's been re-played many times. Jackson (I think it was jackson) got right back in RRod's face after RRod screamed at him about the 12 men time out.

I understand - you don't know what RR and Jackson said to each other. All you saw was a head coach who was upset that 12 men were on the field on a 4th and 4 field goal attempt? Was Jackson saying he put 12 men on the field and tried to pull a quick one over on the refs - since he thought it was an SEC crew? Was Jackson saying that he didn't know why we had 12 on the field? As I said before - that timeout that needed to burned was no big deal. It only meant that Michigan lost a shot at the end zone at the end of the half.

Perhaps RR doesn't accept poor performance. Perhaps RR feels that getting 11 (and not 12) men on the field for specific plays - like a field goal attempt - should be something this team has down COLD.

I'm guessing you, and several others out here, feel that RR should really just walk over slowly to Jackson, the other coaches and / or players - and gently whisper into their ear that they should know better. I'm sure there's a kinder, gentler side of RR or any head coach - that you all like to see.

If you've got to get in front of someone's grill - do it. I'm glad to see the passion. It's been gone for far too long...

[Vested_Interest]

It's funny how Rodriguez apologists tend to draw the comparisons to Bo and to other Coaches from bygone eras, almost universally failing to take into account the fact that those eras are bygones! Today's student athletes and young assistants aren't the Wallys and Beavers of yesteryear, and nobody nowadays wants to be denigrated by some stark raving hothead in the heat of battle!

Ask Bobby Knight how well the 'old school' antics were working as he neared the end of his illustrious career at Indiana. :rolleyes:

[sbblue32]

I'm so sick of the "Politically Correct" bullcrap now I could scream. That fact people want to drag it into how you freakin' coach a football team is nuts. My schools Jr High girls basketball coach yells from tip to buzzer and it's 10 & 11 year GIRLS...not 18-20 year old men. If you can't handle being told you've screwed up at this stage of the game - your playing the wrong sport.

Your arguement makes absolutely no sense. It is not a matter of being politically correct but rather showing some respect to your players and coaching them in a way that teaches them. Nobody responds to mindless yelling and screaming and it has shown in are play hasn't it? When you let your ego get in the way and berate a player for making a mistake RR is not doing anything but rather showing how much of an egotistical ass he is. Messing with Tate's confidence like he has just shows how big his ego his and how he truly doesn't care for his players. Just my observation..

[tpilews]

It's funny how Rodriguez apologists tend to draw the comparisons to Bo and to other Coaches from bygone eras, almost universally failing to take into account the fact that those eras are bygones! Today's student athletes and young assistants aren't the Wallys and Beavers of yesteryear, and nobody nowadays wants to be denigrated by some stark raving hothead in the heat of battle!

Ask Bobby Knight how well the 'old school' antics were working as he neared the end of his illustrious career at Indiana. :rolleyes:

Yeah, he never had a good team at Texas Tech. With as little talent that could be drawn to TTU, he had some good teams.

Also, Myles Brand is the biggest mistake Indiana ever made. You're talking to a once life-long IU basketball fan. Knight would have retired a few years earlier, but the only reason he stayed was because he thought that '01-'02 team had a great chance to win a National Championship.

[Sten Carlson]

Messing with Tate's confidence like he has just shows how big his ego his and how he truly doesn't care for his players. Just my observation..

So, you're claiming that it's RR's yelling at Tate that has caused his performance to slip of late You're saying it's NOT that he's a true freshman, NOR that he's been dinged up since the IU game, NOR that he's been throwing good balls to his receivers, who have started dropping them, and it has nothing to do with the starting center being injured and the O line lacking depth?

Do you have any proof to support your contention that Tate is upset by the way that RR is treating him, or are you just talking out of your ass?

When RR yells at his players, it reminds me of the wy Bo used to yell at his players. He doesn't yell when they fail to make a difficult play, or when they are simply beat out by the opponent, he ONLY yells when they do STUPID things, things that they've gone over 100's of time in practice and in film -- like the delay of game penalty Tate got vs. Iowa. He holds his players accountable for their actions, and he's not going to coddle them and tell them it's ok to make unforced errors in judgment and execution -- personally, I am glad he is holding them to such a high standard.

Right now, it's painful because frankly many of the players on this team would NEVER see the field if they had ANYONE else to take their place -- they're Carr's players and they're NOT VERY GOOD. As time goes on, and we get better players, the yelling will become less and less frequent as the idiotic mistakes will diminish.

[RealwomenwearMaizeNBlue]

Your arguement makes absolutely no sense. It is not a matter of being politically correct but rather showing some respect to your players and coaching them in a way that teaches them. Nobody responds to mindless yelling and screaming and it has shown in are play hasn't it? When you let your ego get in the way and berate a player for making a mistake RR is not doing anything but rather showing how much of an egotistical ass he is. Messing with Tate's confidence like he has just shows how big his ego his and how he truly doesn't care for his players. Just my observation..

My argument was that if 10 year old girls can handle the yelling - then a group of grown men should be fine.

You attack RR for messing w/ Tate's confidence...well Tate was making some poor decisions...is he just supposed to pat him on the ass & say, "oh shucks, you'll do better next time"? I think he hurt Tate's ego - he's said that he was born to be the QB at Michigan - that's pretty egotistical in itself. After the first couple of games I think Tate thought he had the season in the bag. Then the came the Michigan St & Iowa games - he got injured, made freshman mistakes, & now he's a little lost. There are more problems w/ ego than just RR.

[GoDeepHammer]

My argument was that if 10 year old girls can handle the yelling - then a group of grown men should be fine.

You attack RR for messing w/ Tate's confidence...well Tate was making some poor decisions...is he just supposed to pat him on the ass & say, "oh shucks, you'll do better next time"? I think he hurt Tate's ego - he's said that he was born to be the QB at Michigan - that's pretty egotistical in itself. After the first couple of games I think Tate thought he had the season in the bag. Then the came the Michigan St & Iowa games - he got injured, made freshman mistakes, & now he's a little lost. There are more problems w/ ego than just RR.

I have to agree with you. Plus we only see a portion of the time that RR is around the team. We see him on the sideline, where he is fighting for his life, he is an intense guy and holds the kids accountable for their actions. I am tired of everyone trying to shelter the kids from mean people, give it a rest people.