Would you fire fatty?

[RealSchool]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3735333


Not a single first down until the final drive in the 3rd qrt? I hope they keep Weis forever.

[primetime101]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3735333


Not a single first down until the final drive in the 3rd qrt? I hope they keep Weis forever.

+1, he does nothing even with all of his 5* recruits...i hope to god they don't get Brian Kelly from Cincinnati, whoever hires that guy is gonna get a great coach, he would bring ND back with all the talent they have

[whitey]

Brian Kelly is one helluva football coach. I was kinda rooting for him to get the UM job, but im happy with RichRod. He'll turn this thing around. Hopefully kelly gets the UW job. Word is he is interviewing this week (if he hasnt already). Id like to see him compete with USC.

[W0lv3r1n3]

I hope they keep Weis forever to, from a UM point of view. A lot of people think of Kelly as kind of a scumbag, and he's definitely burnt some bridges. A great football coach though, hopefully he doesn't end up at ND.

[Mich Fan in Cbus]

I hope they keep him forever.. he can not adapt and should be fun in the next few years.

[GoDeepHammer]

I hear that the money to get him out is huge, anyone hear an exact number?

[RealSchool]

I hear that the money to get him out is huge, anyone hear an exact number?

I have heard a range from 5 to 10 million.

[Sten Carlson]

They said last night that never before in ND history have they lost as many games in back to back seasons as they had this and last seasons.

I've heard some ND guys say that it has to do with the high academic standards that the administration isn't willing to ease up on -- so the guys coming in have to be great players, but also great students. Not sure if that's true or not, but Holtz sure seemed to have his way with guys coming in -- but then again, I've also heard that there were rampant steroid use and recruiting violations during his tenure at ND.

Who knows?

I don't see how in the world the ND boosters are still putting up with Weiss, but they are a bunch a weirdo catholic pederasses anyway, so what do they know!?!

LOL!

-- good to have the board back!

[tpilews]

I hear that the money to get him out is huge, anyone hear an exact number?

Yeah, it's a few million, like 16 or something around there. Chump change for the ND boosters. If they want him gone, no money in the world will keep him there. Money is no issue for them.

[GoDeepHammer]

I bet they want Willingham back at this point.

[Wolvrin704]

I would fire him but I hope the chumps keep him there for at least another season or two.

[justinsane]

I hope they keep his fat a**. The guys made millions off of riding the coat tails of Tom Brady. I'm a little nervous that Urban Meyer is being rumored to be the golden homos next coach. I've mentioned on a few other threads that I wanted him as the Wolverines coach. He has a clause in his contact for Michigan,tuos,nd he can leave had the same thing at Utah.

[Sten Carlson]

Why in the world would Urban Myer want to leave the University of Florida, and why wouldn't the school do everything they could do to keep him in Gainsville?

Just because he put those three schools in his contract, doesn't mean that he's going to be going to any of them anytime soon.

[nc wolverine]

I bet they want Willingham back at this point.

oh yeah..... im sure they want willingham..... that job he did in washington....simply amazing


ill be honest i was kinda curious where lane kiffin was going to go.... i woulda guessed nd before ut. but then again i dont think nd would have taken some one as un proven as kffin.

[justinsane]

Why in the world would Urban Myer want to leave the University of Florida, and why wouldn't the school do everything they could do to keep him in Gainsville?

Just because he put those three schools in his contract, doesn't mean that he's going to be going to any of them anytime soon.

I didn't say he would want to leave but that the rumors are out there and not on blogs ESPNU mentioned it more than once. Why would he leave Gainesville? Money talks and ND has boat loads.

What happened to your Beavis profile pic? It was much cooler.

[RichRodriguez]

yes fire him

[amazinblue]

Personally, I want Weis at ND. I want ND to honor his entire contract and see him be their coach for the next 7 or 8 years - ideally, longer. In fact, I think Weis is such an excellent coach, I'm willing to donate to ND's athletic budget on the condition that Weis remains their coach - but, I will not donate under any other circumstances - and my donation will be void if they either fire Weis or if Weis resigns.

I say this, of course, because I'm a huge Michigan football fan - and cannot stand the majority of ND fans.

My reasons for this are:
1. Weis has recruited strongly but failed to develop the talent he recruited. This may sound familiar.
2. Weis' offensive genius and schemes are anything but successful - I believe he succeeded at New England because of Brady and the talent on the team. Heck, my mother could be New England's offensive coordinator and have a couple of rings.
3. Weis hasn't been given enough time for his recruits to work through the system. I think he should receive at least one more season - ideally, the rest of his contract to prove he can do it at the college level.
4. I don't believe Weis has, or is willing, to put in the effort to work with his players, boosters, alumni, and university to build a coalition of support. Of course, Samardzija loves Weis - it's probably why he's playing baseball and not football.
5. His arrogance is befitting that venerable institution. ND and Weis are perfect for each other.
6. Scheduling. What team in the country could possibly face the level of competition ND does year in and year out and be successful. My goodness, just look at Syacuse and Navy - who could possibly expect winning against such powerhouses in college football.
7. The Irish are improving. Last year, they lost by 38 to USC at home, this year they only lost by 35 on the road - if we "allow" for a 3 point advantage for playing at home, they've improved by 6 points year over year.

So, Charlie - please stay, dont' even think about renegotiating your contract. There are so many teams dying for your services. ND is lucky to have you. Please make them aware of all of your gifts and keep ND on its road to greatness. Maybe a moral victory (which is a loss to a team with a winning record of less than 14 points) will be enough to help you and the ND faithful realize that you're on the right track. I'm sure that ND will be national champs again in this millenium...

[GoBlue21]

Personally, I want Weis at ND. I want ND to honor his entire contract and see him be their coach for the next 7 or 8 years - ideally, longer. In fact, I think Weis is such an excellent coach, I'm willing to donate to ND's athletic budget on the condition that Weis remains their coach - but, I will not donate under any other circumstances - and my donation will be void if they either fire Weis or if Weis resigns.

I say this, of course, because I'm a huge Michigan football fan - and cannot stand the majority of ND fans.

My reasons for this are:
1. Weis has recruited strongly but failed to develop the talent he recruited. This may sound familiar.
2. Weis' offensive genius and schemes are anything but successful - I believe he succeeded at New England because of Brady and the talent on the team. Heck, my mother could be New England's offensive coordinator and have a couple of rings.
3. Weis hasn't been given enough time for his recruits to work through the system. I think he should receive at least one more season - ideally, the rest of his contract to prove he can do it at the college level.
4. I don't believe Weis has, or is willing, to put in the effort to work with his players, boosters, alumni, and university to build a coalition of support. Of course, Samardzija loves Weis - it's probably why he's playing baseball and not football.
5. His arrogance is befitting that venerable institution. ND and Weis are perfect for each other.
6. Scheduling. What team in the country could possibly face the level of competition ND does year in and year out and be successful. My goodness, just look at Syacuse and Navy - who could possibly expect winning against such powerhouses in college football.
7. The Irish are improving. Last year, they lost by 38 to USC at home, this year they only lost by 35 on the road - if we "allow" for a 3 point advantage for playing at home, they've improved by 6 points year over year.

So, Charlie - please stay, dont' even think about renegotiating your contract. There are so many teams dying for your services. ND is lucky to have you. Please make them aware of all of your gifts and keep ND on its road to greatness. Maybe a moral victory (which is a loss to a team with a winning record of less than 14 points) will be enough to help you and the ND faithful realize that you're on the right track. I'm sure that ND will be national champs again in this millenium...

Hooray for the Golden Domers!!!

[Sten Carlson]

I didn't say he would want to leave but that the rumors are out there and not on blogs ESPNU mentioned it more than once. Why would he leave Gainesville? Money talks and ND has boat loads.

What happened to your Beavis profile pic? It was much cooler.

True, money does talk!

We'll see -- I for one, don't see Urban leaving to go to ND, but stranger things have happened!

I'll bring Beavis back, just for you Justin!

[Sten Carlson]

6. Scheduling. What team in the country could possibly face the level of competition ND does year in and year out and be successful. My goodness, just look at Syacuse and Navy - who could possibly expect winning against such powerhouses in college football.

Actually, there is an interesting story concerning Navy and ND that I heard on a broadcast a few years ago.

During the Great Depression, enrollment and applications were way down at ND -- nobody could afford the tuition. The Naval Academy proposed a deal with ND in which all students that were denied entry into Annapolis were offered automatic acceptance into ND, as long as ND kept on their football schedule in perpetuity (that means forever and ever Nut). ND accepted the offer, and so they've played every year since!

Nice gesture, I suppose...

[justinsane]

True, money does talk!

We'll see -- I for one, don't see Urban leaving to go to ND, but stranger things have happened!

I'll bring Beavis back, just for you Justin!

Awesome, you rule!!!

[blueisbetterthanred]

As a michigan fan, frontbutt forever.

As a football fan, goodbye charlie!

[Medic]

They may give him one more year. The AD can't save face on this one no matter what he does at this point after what he did to Willingham.

3-9 last year and 6-6 this year (which is about what I am expecting Michigan to do next year). You could argue he won with Ty's senior class and now the real rebuilding has begun (whatever that is supposed to be at this juncture).

I don't understand all the hate, the guy has said some stupid things but who hasn't. He does incredible charity work, he seems to be a great playcaller but a terrible motivator (except to opposing schools). Its not like the dude is Barry Switzer or running a Miami team. Is it really necessary for us Michigan fans to descend to the level of calling the guy a "fucking fat ass fatty" and that is somehow our one up on the guy? Really? Thats the best we can some up with?

[1OSUNUT]

Maybe they can get another highly overated recruiting class in there that is void of any playmakers. They cannot water down the schedule anymore then it already has. They played USC and a bunch of stiffs this year - and had a horrible season. MSU, Michigan and USC should win every game against the Irish - home or away, every year.

Untill Notre Dame gets off its high horse and realizes that they are not special anymore and that changes need to be made - they will NEVER be any good. Notre Dame has not had a good team since Holtz was there. Alot has changed in college football since then. Even the Quinn led teams got smoked in every bowl game - including back to back blow outs to OSU and LSU. Do you think a stud player from the inner city wants to go to Notre Dame (and work real hard in the classroom) or attend a winning football factory that could put him on the fast track to the NFL.

Notre Dame has to either lower its requirements to get into and stay in school or lower its expectations. I don't care if you put Urban Meyer at Notre Dame - coaches need players, period. There is a reason why Spurrier and Davis are not winning like they once did - players. Programs and Players make a coach look better then he really is. Charlie had a team of studs in New England - funny they have not missed a beat since he has left.

[MAIZEandBLUEsuedeshoes]

I HOPE NOTRE DAME GETS BETTER!! WITH WEIS OR A NEW COACH....

Nothing quite like the feeling as playing the irish(especially at their place) when Holtz was coach, for me anyway. I can't stand N.D.--I'm from northern Indiana, so the sickness is everywhere here!! LOL.....
I liked it when N.D. was a lot better. Especially when Lou Holtz was coach there--- it meant a lot more to me to beat a better N.D. team.

Until the Big Ten gets some more respect(especially the way the BCS works), I just don't see a one loss Big 10 team making the championship game unless things change----it would help if we knocked off a highly ranked N.D. football team...(not the only way to do it, but it would help)

Either way--- if they are good or not, I am happy..

[MAIZEandBLUEsuedeshoes]

I think he needs to be replaced(Weis). A lot of N.D. fans around here think the same thing. I would give him another year(2 years is pushing it) to try and win 8 or 9 games, and if he did that--- the year after that if he went 6-6 again he would be done.

He may not even last til next year, but who knows.

[amazinblue]

I think he needs to be replaced(Weis). A lot of N.D. fans around here think the same thing. I would give him another year(2 years is pushing it) to try and win 8 or 9 games, and if he did that--- the year after that if he went 6-6 again he would be done.

He may not even last til next year, but who knows.

The news from South Bend is interesting. A lot of different views on Charlie's buy out - from "chump change" to "substantial." My guess is that Charlie gets one more year - I believe next year will be his fifth - and, after next season it's going to be "make it or bust" - so, Charlie's going to have to show how fantastically he's developed his talent and that ND is going in the right direction. IMO, next year will be 8-4 at best for ND.

2009 Notre Dame Football Schedule
Sept. 5 NEVADA
Sept. 12 at Michigan
Sept. 19 MICHIGAN STATE
Sept. 26 at Purdue
Oct. 3 WASHINGTON
Oct. 10 Open Date
Oct. 17 USC
Oct. 24 BOSTON COLLEGE
Oct. 31 vs. Washington State (at San Antonio, Texas)
Nov. 7 NAVY
Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh
Nov. 21 CONNECTICUT
Nov. 28 at Stanford

I don't see many "gimme" games on their schedule. Washington, Washington State, Purdue, and Navy - wow, both Washington teams next year - what were they this year, a combined 2 - 22.

As I've posted before - I'd like to see Charlie stay. And, with a first year AD, that's probably going to happen. The only other possibility is that Florida wins the NC, before that game, ND starts talking to Urban Meyer's agent - behind closed doors, and if Meyer will come to ND, they'll announce a change in mid-January. I think Meyer can do a LOT more with the talent ND's recruited than Weis can.

[Medic]

People are smoking some serious crack if they think Meyer is going anywhere. He is never leaving Florida....ever

[MgoMatt]

The news from South Bend is interesting. A lot of different views on Charlie's buy out - from "chump change" to "substantial." My guess is that Charlie gets one more year - I believe next year will be his fifth - and, after next season it's going to be "make it or bust" - so, Charlie's going to have to show how fantastically he's developed his talent and that ND is going in the right direction. IMO, next year will be 8-4 at best for ND.

2009 Notre Dame Football Schedule
Sept. 5 NEVADA
Sept. 12 at Michigan
Sept. 19 MICHIGAN STATE
Sept. 26 at Purdue
Oct. 3 WASHINGTON
Oct. 10 Open Date
Oct. 17 USC
Oct. 24 BOSTON COLLEGE
Oct. 31 vs. Washington State (at San Antonio, Texas)
Nov. 7 NAVY
Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh
Nov. 21 CONNECTICUT
Nov. 28 at Stanford

I don't see many "gimme" games on their schedule. Washington, Washington State, Purdue, and Navy - wow, both Washington teams next year - what were they this year, a combined 2 - 22.

As I've posted before - I'd like to see Charlie stay. And, with a first year AD, that's probably going to happen. The only other possibility is that Florida wins the NC, before that game, ND starts talking to Urban Meyer's agent - behind closed doors, and if Meyer will come to ND, they'll announce a change in mid-January. I think Meyer can do a LOT more with the talent ND's recruited than Weis can.

Both Washingtons... and people this year were saying ND couldn't put together an easier schedule.

[tpilews]

People are smoking some serious crack if they think Meyer is going anywhere. He is never leaving Florida....ever

I agree, why would he leave. He obviously likes the sunny warm weather. He's got a pretty decent program going. He doesn't even really need to recruit.

[MAIZEandBLUEsuedeshoes]

I don't see many "gimme" games on their schedule. Washington, Washington State, Purdue, and Navy - wow, both Washington teams next year - what were they this year, a combined 2 - 22.

I think Meyer can do a LOT more with the talent ND's recruited than Weis can.

They should put Florida State on there.

I agree about Urban. I think the chances are very slim though--- and I also think that may be the only way they get rid of Weis this year- that is, if they decide to keep Weis(until a good replacement is found).

It wouldn't surprise me though if I woke up and read about Weis in the paper "FIRED" tomorrow.... LOL

[W0lv3r1n3]

According to ESPN and other sources he will be at Notre Dame next year.

Coincidence that Kelly announced to remain with Cincy about the same time? I don't think Weis lasts after next year.

[amazinblue]

... I don't think Weis lasts after next year.

I'll put money down now that Charlie Weis is not the ND coach on January 8th, 2010. He's got next year (2009) to prove himself, I don't think he will - and boom, after five years, he's outa there...

Although we've had a tough year, I am optimistic about the program and the direction we're going in. I don't think the same can be said about ND.

[GoBlue21]

I'll put money down now that Charlie Weis is not the ND coach on January 8th, 2010. He's got next year (2009) to prove himself, I don't think he will - and boom, after five years, he's outa there...

Although we've had a tough year, I am optimistic about the program and the direction we're going in. I don't think the same can be said about ND.

RichRod has only coached 1 year, it was a REALLY BAD year but I'm optimistic like you. Have to give him time to recruit and get his system installed....

As far as ND, if RichRod is in the same boat as Weis is now, I would be calling for RichRod's firing as well. 28-21 over 4 years, not impressive to say the least. He inherited an experienced football team with Brady Quinn at the helm (He can thank Tyrone Willingham for those successful seasons). They went to back to back BCS games in '05 & '06 and got handled pretty easily...I can understand why the ND fans are upset! ND has gotten progressive worse every year since Weis took over!

[amazinblue]

RichRod has only coached 1 year

As far as ND, if RichRod is in the same boat as Weis is now, I would be calling for RichRod's firing as well. 28-21 over 4 years, not impressive to say the least. He inherited an experienced football team with Brady Quinn at the helm (He can thank Tyrone Willingham for those successful seasons). They went to back to back BCS games in '05 & '06 and got handled pretty easily...I can understand why the ND fans are upset! ND has gotten progressive worse every year since Weis took over!

GoBlue21, I completely agree with you. Weis has been there for four years, and it does appear his early success was because of the talent that Willingham recruited and developed - at least developed while he was there.

What I'm expecting out of RR and the Wolverines is improvement - game to game, season to season. And, in year four, I hope that our record is somewhere between 9-3 and 12-0. And, for all the seasons after that going forward, my expectations will be more like 10-2 to 12-0. What I honestly find difficult to understand are those who are calling for RR's head right now - it just doesn't make any sense, RR hasn't even had one full year to recruit. This incoming class looks good, and I think we'll recruit well in the years to come. So, the real critical discussions about performance and expectations should be put on hold until years three and four. If the powers that be aren't pleased with the progress and performance on the field, then its time for some serious conversations. I know that some will say - "Why wait, let's have that conversation now," - but, again, I'd say - can we at least wait until he brings in a couple or three recruiting classes and give him a chance to show what he can do.

In looking at cumulative records, I'd throw this season "out" - and reset the "counter" for RR at 0-0. Of course, that does not mean forgetting this season, it does mean that significant improvement in the next couple of years is expected, and that in year four (if not before), the Wolverines will be a force to be reckoned with on both sides of the ball.

[GoBlue21]

GoBlue21, I completely agree with you. Weis has been there for four years, and it does appear his early success was because of the talent that Willingham recruited and developed - at least developed while he was there.

What I'm expecting out of RR and the Wolverines is improvement - game to game, season to season. And, in year four, I hope that our record is somewhere between 9-3 and 12-0. And, for all the seasons after that going forward, my expectations will be more like 10-2 to 12-0. What I honestly find difficult to understand are those who are calling for RR's head right now - it just doesn't make any sense, RR hasn't even had one full year to recruit. This incoming class looks good, and I think we'll recruit well in the years to come. So, the real critical discussions about performance and expectations should be put on hold until years three and four. If the powers that be aren't pleased with the progress and performance on the field, then its time for some serious conversations. I know that some will say - "Why wait, let's have that conversation now," - but, again, I'd say - can we at least wait until he brings in a couple or three recruiting classes and give him a chance to show what he can do.

In looking at cumulative records, I'd throw this season "out" - and reset the "counter" for RR at 0-0. Of course, that does not mean forgetting this season, it does mean that significant improvement in the next couple of years is expected, and that in year four (if not before), the Wolverines will be a force to be reckoned with on both sides of the ball.

A few members from the 2008 recruiting class that didn't see action due to injury or reshirting. It's been mentioned before that Michigan had 6 OL redshirting this year, that is very significant! Michigan's OL struggled throughout the year, but did see improvement toward the end of the season. 1 returning starter will do that. So the front 5 got some valuable playing time this season coupled with 6 redshirt freshman and maybe a few from the 2009 recruiting class. It all starts up front and I think we will see a much improved OL next year. The competition for each position is going to be raised up a level with the number of guys competing next season!

Also, players like Brandon Smith and Terrence Robinson that would have saw action this season if not for injuring. These guys should make an instant impact at their positions. Kenny Demens is another guy that had a lot of promise coming in, maybe he steps in and contributes...

The 2008 recruiting class did A LOT of good things this season. Mike Martin and B. Cissoko played legitimate roles on defense...

On the offensive side, the true freshman class skill position spots really stood out. Aside from Minor, freshman like Odoms, McGuffie, Shaw, Koger and Stonum played major roles in putting up offensive numbers. I know Michigan's offense struggled but when they were clicking, these guys were usually involved in some way...

2009 cannot come any sooner, with the new freshman coming in and a lot of redshirt freshman/sophomores contributing; Michigan should be force to be reckoned with for years to come. I know they are young and need game experience but these guys should be hungry from this year and the newbies have an opportunity to contribute right away. Competition at every position should be fun to watch during spring ball...

[amazinblue]

[QUOTE=GoBlue21;409]A few members from the 2008 recruiting class that didn't see action due to injury or reshirting. It's been mentioned before that Michigan had 6 OL redshirting this year, that is very significant! Michigan's OL struggled throughout the year, but did see improvement toward the end of the season. 1 returning starter will do that. So the front 5 got some valuable playing time this season coupled with 6 redshirt freshman and maybe a few from the 2009 recruiting class. It all starts up front and I think we will see a much improved OL next year. The competition for each position is going to be raised up a level with the number of guys competing next season!
[QUOTE]


GoBlue21,

I think the O line - with this season's starters and the redshirting of the 6 freshmen will be something extremely valuable in the years to come, and that can't be emphasized enough. We're going to have a core O line for four more years - what that means to the Offense is tremendous. I'm sure we'll struggle against "better" teams next season, but - after that, they'll be moving...

And, I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple (or more) O lineman in every class beginning in 2010.

We are a young team, and we're adding to the depth of talent with this year's class. My guess, it's just going to keep getting better and better - of course, there are those that could say it can't get any worse - and I do agree with that, but RR is filling the cupboard with his type of players, and we're going to be a real force in the not too distant future.

[Don Unverferth]

According to ESPN and other sources he will be at Notre Dame next year.

Coincidence that Kelly announced to remain with Cincy about the same time? I don't think Weis lasts after next year.


Can you imagine sitting across from a guy, having to fire him, knowing he could eat you in one bite?

Charlie isn't going anywhere folks. You try and fire him.

But seriously, this is an almost unimaginable situation for their program.

The fans are in open revolt. Recruits have to be second guessing if he will be there more than one year (never has a ten year contract meant so little). His team has regressed as the season has gone on and his players are being openly laughed at.

This decision to retain him could be revisited after the bowl. I would like to see the wording of any official announcement from the AD.

[elno lewis]

Keep fatty around at least until some other player can bash into his other knee making it impossible for him to be anything other than a food taster at Taco Bell.

Then bring in Urban Meyer. Would love to see UM chase that pin head out of college coaching.

I also heard that Mark the mirthless priack Dantonio is gonna be interviewed by Chris Hanson tonight.

Just have a seat right over there....Now, lets see here. You have a gallon of cheap vodka, a box of condoms and six crack rocks and a butane lighter, Mr. Dantonio, what is all that for?

Well, I found it on the porch just now.

Right.

No, really. I've never done anything like this before. Don't tell my wife. I'm here for educational reasons.

[amazinblue]

I would like to see the wording of any official announcement from the AD.

Don,

Here's the link to the AP article about the Weis "being around" statement.

http://http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3741387

Maybe this link will work better...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3741387

[Don Unverferth]

Don,

Here's the link to the AP article about the Weis "being around" statement.

http://http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3741387

Can't access the server. I've tried Firefox and Safari. Is the URL correct?

[Bossgobbler23]

It has been the ND tradition to keep a coach at least 5 years. ESPN also confirmed that Fatty will be back for the 2009 season. Thats ok with me.

[nc wolverine]

It has been the ND tradition to keep a coach at least 5 years. ESPN also confirmed that Fatty will be back for the 2009 season. Thats ok with me.

it has been their tradition? willingham didnt get 5 years.... uh oh time to play the race card

[BBA1994]

it has been their tradition? willingham didnt get 5 years.... uh oh time to play the race card

Willingham didn't get 5 years because he is baptist, not catholic. It had nothing to do with race.

[nc wolverine]

Willingham didn't get 5 years because he is baptist, not catholic. It had nothing to do with race.

well put... i learned soemthing today. thank you

[amazinblue]

Can't access the server. I've tried Firefox and Safari. Is the URL correct?

Don, I don't know what the problem was with the URL I originally posted. This one should take you to the article. If I were a Buckeye, the only problem I'd have with Charlie being around is that you don't have ND on the schedule. But, if ND somehow does make a BCS game, most likely OSU will be an at-large invite and can take them on them.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3741387

[GoGreen23]

I hope they keep him at least through next year. If he has another .500 year like this one, he is gone though. I want to see MSU winning streak in South Bend increase to 7 in-a-row! Haha, I think we can all agree that we like watching Notre Dame lose, and I can't wait for whatever bowl game they play in, so I can watch them lose again.

[Don Unverferth]

Don, I don't know what the problem was with the URL I originally posted. This one should take you to the article. If I were a Buckeye, the only problem I'd have with Charlie being around is that you don't have ND on the schedule. But, if ND somehow does make a BCS game, most likely OSU will be an at-large invite and can take them on them.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3741387

Somehow I don't think we need to worry about ND playing in the BCS, I mean look at the track record:

-15 straight years without a bowl win
-7-5 record average over last 15 years
-The last offensive skill position player to be drafted in the first round before Quinn was Jerome Bettis. That's right, Jerome Bettis!

Unfortunately we do still need to worry about getting to the buffet table first before Charlie gets there.

[UM4life]

wrong forum and I never would have hired him so yes, Id fire his front butt and him.

[W0lv3r1n3]

I'm ecstatic he's staying for another year. I would absolutely hate to be a Notre Dame fan.