Gone after OSU?

[OMAZENBLUE]

To all you RR supporters! I am not trolling with this but these are my thoughts! PLEASE no warnings MODS!



Is Michigan playing this just perfect!


There is a reason of the timing of the release of this information. Michigan is working on their out with RR if they loose to OSU. If RR looses then Michigan will release some more stuff and he will be gone and that will be their excuse as to why they only gave him 2 years.

Michigan knows that this is a bad fit right now amongst the Program, Players, Fans and Alumni right now, it's bringing to much unwanted negative press to the program and for that they know they have a free pass to unload without any reprecutions.

Does Martin want to leave his legacy in RR's hands?

RR might only have one final chance this Saturday to prove that he is worth the $$$$ and the wait! This game could be bitter sweet for Michigan fans that want RR gone! Win and he stays! Loose and he's gone!

I'm sensing Les Miles is watching very closely as he probably would come now if he had the chance too.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

To all you RR supporters! I am not trolling with this but these are my thoughts! PLEASE no warnings MODS!



Is Michigan playing this just perfect!


There is a reason of the timing of the release of this information. Michigan is working on their out with RR if they loose to OSU. If RR looses then Michigan will release some more stuff and he will be gone and that will be their excuse as to why they only gave him 2 years.

Michigan knows that this is a bad fit right now amongst the Program, Players, Fans and Alumni right now, it's bringing to much unwanted negative press to the program and for that they know they have a free pass to unload without any reprecutions.

Does Martin want to leave his legacy in RR's hands?

RR might only have one final chance this Saturday to prove that he is worth the $$$$ and the wait! This game could be bitter sweet for Michigan fans that want RR gone! Win and he stays! Loose and he's gone!

I'm sensing Les Miles is watching very closely as he probably would come now if he had the chance too.

first off, "Loose and he's gone!"
this cracked me up. Lose has one "o".
(see my post regarding the alleged
higher intellect of the "fire rod" camp)

but dude, really?
what about the Mary Sue Coleman comments?
or the Bill Martin comments?

the ONLY way RR gets fired after this season is
if the NCAA finds him guilty of committing major
infractions, which is unlikely.

IF he did indeed commit major infractions, I would
have no problem with them firing him; because all
the Rod haters are killing the program, and the
biggest reason the program would benefit from him
leaving would be to shut up all the chicken littles
and blue hairs.

But, if all this happens,
Then what would you all have to
whine about on the internet?!?

[MoellerLover69(LloydCarr)]

You're right! Why lament being last in the Big-10? Over a hundred years of tradition down the tubes. What's the big deal? Good call

[Buzz]

first off, "Loose and he's gone!"
this cracked me up. Lose has one "o".
(see my post regarding the alleged
higher intellect of the "fire rod" camp)

I'm not a fire Rod guy, but I am a "Rod needs to step his game up" guy. What...are you supposed to be smart? Cause I'd like to see an example. I don't know, (I've) been on this board for a minute, or three and have yet to read a well thought post from you.

[OMAZENBLUE]

first off, "Loose and he's gone!"
this cracked me up. Lose has one "o".
(see my post regarding the alleged
higher intellect of the "fire rod" camp)

but dude, really?
what about the Mary Sue Coleman comments?
or the Bill Martin comments?

the ONLY way RR gets fired after this season is
if the NCAA finds him guilty of committing major
infractions, which is unlikely.

IF he did indeed commit major infractions, I would
have no problem with them firing him; because all
the Rod haters are killing the program, and the
biggest reason the program would benefit from him
leaving would be to shut up all the chicken littles
and blue hairs.

But, if all this happens,
Then what would you all have to
whine about on the internet?!?


First of all thanks for correcting my Englich! Since I have my own Ticket Brokering Business I have lost the Englich skills I have once needed and possesed to make it in a "Work for somebody else job world" But I hear it goes far when you know how to spell lose, Loss, loose loooser, or loser at Mcdonalds, Right?


And second of all, I highly doubt it is the RR haters killing the program! I'm pretty sure it is he himself! I supportted and defended RR untill it was very clear that he is not who we thought he was. Hell I even have 3 " In RR we trust shirts"

You see, you people came on here and spewed some much crap that he was going to do this and do that and do it right away. And now look at all you trying to back pedal and make one excuse after another, Already reducing season 3 expectations to 7 or 8 wins, PLEASE!!!

Crying about the lack of talent and youth when RR said it himself that he would have no problem adapting these players into his system. Well it sure has not adapted well, has it?

Who in the hell can't see that there are coaching problems when a team starts 4-0 and blows every game after that? Isn't that a clear sign that there are internal problems other than youth and lack of talent?

And as far as the higher intellect goes, I don't think Stevie Brown will be getting the Heisman trophy! Also it is funny how you the HIGHER INTELLECT tries to convince people to actually support this garbage that is being played out? I bet you fall for alot of informercials, don't you? Last time I checked, most people don't support a coach that came in and totally fucked up their football program with signs of it getting even worse!

EXAMPLE,

Ok lets say your Manager at Mcdonalds come's in and tells you that they are retiring and that there will be a new Manager starting tomorrow. So you get the new Manager ( I know you're sad ) and that Manger hires some new employee's because he is trying to create better customer service. Well two years go by and you are losing customers because your service still sucks and has never even improved! What do you do Stevie? Do you continue with that Manager or do you look elsewhere? Your janitor job is on the line now! But if you were the owner, what would you do? You see Michigan is facing Creditbility that could tarnish this program for a long time if they continue on this Nightmare! It is a gamble and so far Michigan has lost alot in this gamble so it is time to cut your LOSSES and regroup!

This is why you will spend your time on HAILVICTORS correcting people on their ENGLICH and punching a time clock for McDonalds! College Football is a business and there is a lot more at stake then trying to make simple little Lovefest RR fans happy!

And as far as the whining goes, That will stop when RR does something to prove that he is worthy or when LES MILES comes here!

[tpilews]

I don't remember myself saying that he was gonna do this or do that at UM. Perhaps that was before my time here. However, since then, I have been an RR supporter because he is UMs coach. If there are major violations and the University decides to can him, then I support that decision. All of this discussion could be a moot point if UM wins this weekend.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

First of all thanks for correcting my Englich! Since I have my own Ticket Brokering Business I have lost the Englich skills I have once needed and possesed to make it in a "Work for somebody else job world" But I hear it goes far when you know how to spell lose, Loss, loose loooser, or loser at Mcdonalds, Right?


And second of all, I highly doubt it is the RR haters killing the program! I'm pretty sure it is he himself! I supportted and defended RR untill it was very clear that he is not who we thought he was. Hell I even have 3 " In RR we trust shirts"

You see, you people came on here and spewed some much crap that he was going to do this and do that and do it right away. And now look at all you trying to back pedal and make one excuse after another, Already reducing season 3 expectations to 7 or 8 wins, PLEASE!!!

Crying about the lack of talent and youth when RR said it himself that he would have no problem adapting these players into his system. Well it sure has not adapted well, has it?

Who in the hell can't see that there are coaching problems when a team starts 4-0 and blows every game after that? Isn't that a clear sign that there are internal problems other than youth and lack of talent?

And as far as the higher intellect goes, I don't think Stevie Brown will be getting the Heisman trophy! Also it is funny how you the HIGHER INTELLECT tries to convince people to actually support this garbage that is being played out? I bet you fall for alot of informercials, don't you? Last time I checked, most people don't support a coach that came in and totally fucked up their football program with signs of it getting even worse!

EXAMPLE,

Ok lets say your Manager at Mcdonalds come's in and tells you that they are retiring and that there will be a new Manager starting tomorrow. So you get the new Manager ( I know you're sad ) and that Manger hires some new employee's because he is trying to create better customer service. Well two years go by and you are losing customers because your service still sucks and has never even improved! What do you do Stevie? Do you continue with that Manager or do you look elsewhere? Your janitor job is on the line now! But if you were the owner, what would you do? You see Michigan is facing Creditbility that could tarnish this program for a long time if they continue on this Nightmare! It is a gamble and so far Michigan has lost alot in this gamble so it is time to cut your LOSSES and regroup!

This is why you will spend your time on HAILVICTORS correcting people on their ENGLICH and punching a time clock for McDonalds! College Football is a business and there is a lot more at stake then trying to make simple little Lovefest RR fans happy!

And as far as the whining goes, That will stop when RR does something to prove that he is worthy or when LES MILES comes here!

how much of your valuable Ticket Broker time did I successfully get you to waste by replying to my obvious troll post?

i hope it was at LEAST 15 minutes...

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

I'm not a fire Rod guy, but I am a "Rod needs to step his game up" guy. What...are you supposed to be smart? Cause I'd like to see an example. I don't know, (I've) been on this board for a minute, or three and have yet to read a well thought post from you.

I agree, he does need to step up his game.

I'm the first to say I'm VERY disappointed in the way the season has played out.

You're right though; I'm dumb and your opinion is worth much more than mine because, after all, you're you...

[Bleed Blue]

OMAZENBLUE

Your Mcdonalds anology to Michigan football is really piss poor, but quiet entertaining to read. Maybe a more in depth contrast between what I beleive is called the "front of the house" and "back of the house" in the resturant industry would better discribe the Offense and Defensive issues we have. I'd personally love to read more. You seem well informed of how the fast food indusrty unfolds.

As for the negative press - This has been happening since day 1 and will continue until the ship is headed once again in the right direction. RR isn't going anywhere for a few more years and he will again restore our program.

[mgoblue1]

I read this earlier today and didn't have the urge to post it, but since I came across this thread figured, I'd put it out there. And for the record I'm just flat out disappointed in this season, don't know if RR is right, wrong, or whatever at this point. You've got to wonder though, what if he goes, and we get Miles, Harbaugh, or anyone for that matter, and still don't get the results? and on top of that, have to make major changes to the system again, and then there is the recruiting debate, etc. If RR goes and we get one of these guys, is it better because they are more likable than RR or because they have stronger ties to the school, or they didn't come into the program with all the baggage that RR did. But I'd have to think that if UM went after Brian Kelley or any of the previously mentioned by buying them, that there would be baggage coming in with them also. Just because UM went and bought another coach who is at the height of success at another program. Here comes the article I saw earlier, sorry for the lack of cohesiveness with the post, trying to squeeze this in at work. see below

According to ESPN's Michael Wilbon, it might be too late.

Monday on Tony Kornheiser's radio show, Wilbon pronounced Rodriguez done at Michigan -- and Charlie Weis the same at Notre Dame.

"I had a solo conversation with someone who is affiliated with the current coach at Michigan, and he does not believe for a second that he'll be back," Wilbon said.

When Kornheiser said a coach with Rodriguez's résumé surely should get another year to right the program, Wilbon stuck by his source.

"I was stunned by this conversation, which was Saturday, an hour-and-a-half after that (Wisconsin) game," Wilbon said. "And he says that he would bet me right now -- took his wallet out and threw it down -- that this is not going to happen.

"I'll just tell you, this guy played for Rich Rod."

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

I read this earlier today and didn't have the urge to post it, but since I came across this thread figured, I'd put it out there. And for the record I'm just flat out disappointed in this season, don't know if RR is right, wrong, or whatever at this point. You've got to wonder though, what if he goes, and we get Miles, Harbaugh, or anyone for that matter, and still don't get the results? and on top of that, have to make major changes to the system again, and then there is the recruiting debate, etc. If RR goes and we get one of these guys, is it better because they are more likable than RR or because they have stronger ties to the school, or they didn't come into the program with all the baggage that RR did. But I'd have to think that if UM went after Brian Kelley or any of the previously mentioned by buying them, that there would be baggage coming in with them also. Just because UM went and bought another coach who is at the height of success at another program. Here comes the article I saw earlier, sorry for the lack of cohesiveness with the post, trying to squeeze this in at work. see below

According to ESPN's Michael Wilbon, it might be too late.

Monday on Tony Kornheiser's radio show, Wilbon pronounced Rodriguez done at Michigan -- and Charlie Weis the same at Notre Dame.

"I had a solo conversation with someone who is affiliated with the current coach at Michigan, and he does not believe for a second that he'll be back," Wilbon said.

When Kornheiser said a coach with Rodriguez's résumé surely should get another year to right the program, Wilbon stuck by his source.

"I was stunned by this conversation, which was Saturday, an hour-and-a-half after that (Wisconsin) game," Wilbon said. "And he says that he would bet me right now -- took his wallet out and threw it down -- that this is not going to happen.

"I'll just tell you, this guy played for Rich Rod."

Wilbon's source is a guy who played at West Virginia.

Pretty much less than credible, imhe.

If you're really concerned:
http://mgoblog.com/content/dont-take-michael-wilbon-rumor-seriously

[mgoblue1]

Wilbon's source is a guy who played at West Virginia.

Pretty much less than credible, imhe.

If you're really concerned:
http://mgoblog.com/content/dont-take-michael-wilbon-rumor-seriously

Well SBFH, hope you're right. I think RR should get a fair shake, which IMO is at least 2 or 3 more years. Doesn't seem rational to ditch him any sooner. I'll admit with my state of mind in regards to UM football, I was sucked into that.

[tpilews]

I read this earlier today and didn't have the urge to post it, but since I came across this thread figured, I'd put it out there. And for the record I'm just flat out disappointed in this season, don't know if RR is right, wrong, or whatever at this point. You've got to wonder though, what if he goes, and we get Miles, Harbaugh, or anyone for that matter, and still don't get the results? and on top of that, have to make major changes to the system again, and then there is the recruiting debate, etc. If RR goes and we get one of these guys, is it better because they are more likable than RR or because they have stronger ties to the school, or they didn't come into the program with all the baggage that RR did. But I'd have to think that if UM went after Brian Kelley or any of the previously mentioned by buying them, that there would be baggage coming in with them also. Just because UM went and bought another coach who is at the height of success at another program. Here comes the article I saw earlier, sorry for the lack of cohesiveness with the post, trying to squeeze this in at work. see below


Interesting topic you bring up about "what if" RR is replaced. Maybe that deserves another thread.

[OMAZENBLUE]

I read this earlier today and didn't have the urge to post it, but since I came across this thread figured, I'd put it out there. And for the record I'm just flat out disappointed in this season, don't know if RR is right, wrong, or whatever at this point. You've got to wonder though, what if he goes, and we get Miles, Harbaugh, or anyone for that matter, and still don't get the results? and on top of that, have to make major changes to the system again, and then there is the recruiting debate, etc. If RR goes and we get one of these guys, is it better because they are more likable than RR or because they have stronger ties to the school, or they didn't come into the program with all the baggage that RR did. But I'd have to think that if UM went after Brian Kelley or any of the previously mentioned by buying them, that there would be baggage coming in with them also. Just because UM went and bought another coach who is at the height of success at another program. Here comes the article I saw earlier, sorry for the lack of cohesiveness with the post, trying to squeeze this in at work. see below

According to ESPN's Michael Wilbon, it might be too late.

Monday on Tony Kornheiser's radio show, Wilbon pronounced Rodriguez done at Michigan -- and Charlie Weis the same at Notre Dame.

"I had a solo conversation with someone who is affiliated with the current coach at Michigan, and he does not believe for a second that he'll be back," Wilbon said.

When Kornheiser said a coach with Rodriguez's résumé surely should get another year to right the program, Wilbon stuck by his source.

"I was stunned by this conversation, which was Saturday, an hour-and-a-half after that (Wisconsin) game," Wilbon said. "And he says that he would bet me right now -- took his wallet out and threw it down -- that this is not going to happen.

"I'll just tell you, this guy played for Rich Rod."


Wilbon seems pretty convinced


I think he will be gone if they don't beat OSU. I think he gets another year if he beats OSU and as I said before I will support as that could be a turning point for that program. But I would not gamble on a year 3 with him and all the negatives that surround.

Here's the thing, If RR didn't have all the stink cloud around him ( some of it not his fault and out of his control ) and was still at this point, I would probably be more supportive of a year 3. But I think he will have to many distractions that will effect the process of bringing Michigan back to a National level. I will not sit on here nor have I ever bashed RR the man himself! And I am not rooting for him to fail this Saturday and to be fired. I am rooting for him and would love to see him have that unbelievable moment at Michigan. I simply see a square peg trying to fit in a round hole here at Michigan.

I truely think he would be successful in another program with a fresh start, the odds were just against him from day one and it is just getting worse for both sides.

Bring in an outsider? No! I think we would be better off with RR but yes I believe Michigan needs to bring in a Michigan Man like Miles or Harbaugh! I think it would stabalize the program and bring positives instead of negatives. There would be an instant calmness in AA. When these kids see all this negative going on around RR and the program it effects their focus and their respect level for the coaching staff and I think that is why we are seeing a mentally weak team week after week.

[rickyleach]

Relax the guy is not going to be fired..

[bighousemike84]

Who in the hell can't see that there are coaching problems when a team starts 4-0 and blows every game after that? Isn't that a clear sign that there are internal problems other than youth and lack of talent?

You can make a case for other internal problems but honestly the quick start and hard fall is a very obvious example of youth and lack of talent.

[tpilews]

Dave Wannstedt at Pitt

5-6 (2005)
6-6 (2006)
5-7 (2007)

9-4 (2008)
and is currently 9-1

[number2]

To all you RR supporters! I am not trolling with this but these are my thoughts! PLEASE no warnings MODS!



Is Michigan playing this just perfect!


There is a reason of the timing of the release of this information. Michigan is working on their out with RR if they loose to OSU. If RR looses then Michigan will release some more stuff and he will be gone and that will be their excuse as to why they only gave him 2 years.

Michigan knows that this is a bad fit right now amongst the Program, Players, Fans and Alumni right now, it's bringing to much unwanted negative press to the program and for that they know they have a free pass to unload without any reprecutions.

Does Martin want to leave his legacy in RR's hands?

RR might only have one final chance this Saturday to prove that he is worth the $$$$ and the wait! This game could be bitter sweet for Michigan fans that want RR gone! Win and he stays! Loose and he's gone!

I'm sensing Les Miles is watching very closely as he probably would come now if he had the chance too.

If they were winning (say 9-2 or so) we wouldnt be hearing all of this...at least it wouldnt be anywhere near as LOUD!! and the RR backers who have faded into the gray area would still be behind RR 100%

[1OSUNUT]

Dave Wannstedt at Pitt

5-6 (2005)
6-6 (2006)
5-7 (2007)

9-4 (2008)
and is currently 9-1

If Pitt was in the Big Ten this year they would have 4 losses. They struggled against ND. They would be a middle of the road Big Ten team.

[tpilews]

If Pitt was in the Big Ten this year they would have 4 losses. They struggled against ND. They would be a middle of the road Big Ten team.

You're missing the point guy. The point is, Pitt decided to stay with him even though they had a rough patch. So far, this season, it's paid off.

[RADRACING]

You will like this one better - 3-9 sound familiar? Remember when everyone was saying the game had passed Joe PA by?
One man they say saved Joe Pa's butt - Michael Robinson

2003 Joe Paterno 3–9 T–9th
2004 Joe Paterno 4–7 9th
2005 Joe Paterno 11–1 T–1st W 26–23 Orange
2006 Joe Paterno 9–4 T–4th W 20–10 Outback
2007 Joe Paterno 9–4 T–5th W 24–17 Alamo
2008 Joe Paterno 11–2 T–1st L 24–38 Rose

Dave Wannstedt, Please don't even think you would want mr no guts settle for field goal at UM.

[NorCal Buckeye]

Dave Wannstedt at Pitt

5-6 (2005)
6-6 (2006)
5-7 (2007)

9-4 (2008)
and is currently 9-1

When RR loses again this weekend he will be the first Michigan coach in history to lose his first two games to the Buckeyes.

The loss will also give him the distinction of the longest Big Ten losing streak in the history of the program.

Keep them milestones coming, Rich. We love you, even more than LLLLLLoyd!:D

[amazinblue]

The loss will also give him the distinction of the longest Big Ten losing streak in the history of the program.

Keep them milestones coming, Rich. We love you, even more than LLLLLLoyd!:D

NorCal,

Once again - what was RR's position under Carr? Was he the OC? Was he the assistant HC? Was he the DC? Please - please, have RR be accountable for all that Carr did - it seems quite appropriate... logical for you and your Buckeye brethren...

[The Michigan Man]

We are still persisting with this nonsense?

RR is coaching at Michigan next year, and all of the sniveling in the world isn't going to change that. He has the support of the important people in the program, the ones that are capable of seeing the big picture, and not knee-jerking it and holding a coach accountable for playing with the previous coach's inadequate players.
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[amazinblue]

Bring in an outsider? No! I think we would be better off with RR but yes I believe Michigan needs to bring in a Michigan Man like Miles or Harbaugh! I think it would stabalize the program and bring positives instead of negatives. There would be an instant calmness in AA. When these kids see all this negative going on around RR and the program it effects their focus and their respect level for the coaching staff and I think that is why we are seeing a mentally weak team week after week.

Omazen,

Are these your thoughts? If so, please seek either a logic teacher or some other form of professional help.

A coaching change would "stabilize the program"? How? Harbaugh, who ripped on Michigan's academic standards when he became Stanford's coach? You want him?

Again - how many upperclassmen are playing on this team?

What besides Michigan's record is "this negative going on around RR"?

Do you have any idea how hard these young men must work to be competitive on the field? Do you think the team doesn't "respect" RR and the coaching staff? It seems that of the few upperclass leaders tend to think differently - like Brandon Graham. And, the freshman / sophomore classes are understanding the dedication it takes to excel on the field - the dedication to develop to their potential. Trust me, the disappointment the team is feeling is real - I'm sure they are more frustrated than anyone who posts on this board.

I don't believe the team is "mentally weak" - I do believe they are playing much tighter than they did earlier this season - no doubt about it. The key is - they are young - and relatively inexperienced. The nicks and injuries they suffered were much more impactful than many would understand - and, I'm thinking of Molk and Tate's shoulder. And, yes - a center plays an important role on the team for those of you who don't know who Molk is.

I'm a supporter of this team. I'm a supporter of RR...

Go Blue... Beat Ohio...