Rose Bowl predictions?

[NorCal Buckeye]

Is anybody ready to start talking Rose Bowl yet?

I sure am. It's our first game of next year and will probably set the tone for the 2010 season.

We are probably going to be facing Oregon. I haven't scouted them yet. Does anybody know much about them?

[MgoMatt]

A close one yesterday vs Arizona, but now it comes down to the winner of Oregon vs Oregon St.

[1OSUNUT]

You have to score points and stop them a few times on defense. 17 points won't win the game. I think the game will be very winable. I fully expect us to show up and play well in The Rose Bowl.

[eyesoftexas]

I think that Oregon State will beat Oregon and then lose to OSU in a high scoring but close Rose Bowl. The Rogers brothers from Rosenburg will be tough to stop.

[goblue]

I'm just glad you guys aren't playing USC again. You all ready played them last year and this year. It will be interesting to see you guys matched up against another team. This is a perfect opportunity for you guys to win a bowl. You don't have to worry about a Texas or a Florida or a USC.

You guys should be taking advantage of this matchup and go all out to win a bowl game. If that means running Pryor more than so be it. Quit pretending he's something he's not such as a good pocket passer. And I hope Tressel does more than have Pryor manage the clock. Open up the playbook and have Pryor do what he does best - run the football more. Then that will probably open up the pass to posey more. Tressel has nothing to lose by changing it up for this one game. Michigan even had to change it up in order to beat Florida two years ago in the bowl.

[NorCal Buckeye]

Here is the low down on the Ducks...

Common opponent...Purdue...They beat the Boilermakers at home 38-36.

They run a spread offense, with a 4-3 defense.

There is only one senior on offense, and only two seniors on defense. They are a young and relatively inexperienced team.

They rank 9th in the country in total offense stats. We are 48th. They rank 70th in passing offense, we are 76th. They rank 8th in rushing offense, we are 14th.

On total defense they rank 44th, we are 5th. Their passing defense is 33rd, ours is 34th. Their run defense is 46th, ours is 8th.

Head Coach Chip Kelly versus Jim Tressel. Form you own opinion on this one.

Overall, I think it is a favorable match up. Their strength (running game) against our strength (run defense). I believe we have a slight edge with our running offense being able to trump their run defense. Outcome should be a typical Tressel-ball nail biter. 23-21 Buckeyes.;)

[RADRACING]

I predict OSU gets blown out as usual.

[buckeye7]

I predict OSU gets blown out as usual.

Careful radracing; I got a warning for saying not much worse than that.

[blueisbetterthanred]

non big 10 team: 38
tuos: 20

not as close as the score looks.

[buckeye7]

non big 10 team: 38
tuos: 20

not as close as the score looks.

I guess we should be happy with that. Michigan took a 39-7 defeat to Oregon at home a couple years ago.

[cartyboi]

Here is the low down on the Ducks...

Common opponent...Purdue...They beat the Boilermakers at home 38-36.

They run a spread offense, with a 4-3 defense.

There is only one senior on offense, and only two seniors on defense. They are a young and relatively inexperienced team.

They rank 9th in the country in total offense stats. We are 48th. They rank 70th in passing offense, we are 76th. They rank 8th in rushing offense, we are 14th.

On total defense they rank 44th, we are 5th. Their passing defense is 33rd, ours is 34th. Their run defense is 46th, ours is 8th.

Head Coach Chip Kelly versus Jim Tressel. Form you own opinion on this one.

Overall, I think it is a favorable match up. Their strength (running game) against our strength (run defense). I believe we have a slight edge with our running offense being able to trump their run defense. Outcome should be a typical Tressel-ball nail biter. 23-21 Buckeyes.;)
They have arguably the best QB in the PAC-10. Outcome should honestly be a nailbiter OR an actual "typical" Tressel bowl loss. I don't see OSU blowing out Oregon if that's who they play. If OSU gets to play Oregon State, I see OSU (Ohio State) winning that game.

[deltguy2]

prediction: you guys lose like usual and make the Big 10 look bad once again.

[buckeye7]

prediction: you guys lose like usual and make the Big 10 look bad once again.

prediction: you won't be able to watch michigan play until september '10.

[Swoosh]

Good luck guys, make the big ten proud:)

[shirc]

Do they play defense in the Pac Ten?

I think Ohio State will run all over the ducks or the beavers. Pryor will pass for 100-150 and run for 75 - 100 and the defense will dominate!

Only question is: Is it duck season or beaver season?

GO BUCKS

[NorCal Buckeye]

Do they play defense in the Pac Ten?

I think Ohio State will run all over the ducks or the beavers. Pryor will pass for 100-150 and run for 75 - 100 and the defense will dominate!

Only question is: Is it duck season or beaver season?

GO BUCKS

We could have it both ways...f__k a duck after licking the beavers. ?:D:D:p

[Frank Rizzo]

37-17 Ducks DESTROY the JOKE of the big ten.......lol

[rickyleach]

when i read you guys were in the rose bowl ,the first thing i thought of was whatever you do have a great time leading up to the game , AND YA KNOW WHY , CCCCCAUSE ITS WOODSHED TIME FOR TRESSY, HA HA HA HA HA HA ,ATLEAST SHOW UP THIS DECADE FOR ONCE HA HA HA HA .. SSSSSSSSSSHMOKIN 38 -23 AGAINST MAYBE THE 2ND WORST TEAM IN THE BCS , OH YOU GUYS ARE THE FIRST. HA HA HA

[Wolvrin704]

I predict a close game through the 1st quarter. Then a few mistakes will be made and Oregon will take a 2 score lead into halftime. tUOS will try to mount a comeback behind TP's arm but a couple of TO's later Oregon will have a commanding lead and the route is on with tUOS getting a late garbage score to make it look respectable.

But if the play Oregon State tUOS will win hands down.

Oregon 34
tUOS 19

Oregon State 17
tUOS 28

[shirc]

37-17 Ducks DESTROY the JOKE of the big ten.......lol

Ahem...the Ducks won't be playing Michigan in the Rose Bowl. Um, they wasted them (in the Shit House) a couple of years ago.

I keep thinking of the fiesta bowl (04' I think) in which K State and Darren Sproles were supposed to carve the Buckeye defense like a thanksgiving turkey. But the Buckeyes jumped out to a 21 point lead and held off a comeback attempt to win 35-28 I think.

I could see us shocking the ducks/beavers the same way, when they actually play against a defense of Ohio State's caliber, but make a run to make it look closer than it actually is....


THE Ohio State University - 38

Ducks/Beavers- 30

[NorCal Buckeye]

I predict a close game through the 1st quarter. Then a few mistakes will be made and Oregon will take a 2 score lead into halftime. tUOS will try to mount a comeback behind TP's arm but a couple of TO's later Oregon will have a commanding lead and the route is on with tUOS getting a late garbage score to make it look respectable.

But if the play Oregon State tUOS will win hands down.

Oregon 34
tUOS 19

Oregon State 17
tUOS 28

How the hell did you figure? Did you read my scouting report on the Ducks below? All they have is a good running game. Which goes against our great run defense. Who do you think is going to win that battle? The rest of their team is mediocre. Pass offense, defense, and special teams is all average. We will beat them in a typical Tressel-ball close game.:rolleyes:

[The Michigan Man]

Is anybody ready to start talking Rose Bowl yet?

I sure am. It's our first game of next year and will probably set the tone for the 2010 season.

We are probably going to be facing Oregon. I haven't scouted them yet. Does anybody know much about them?

I predict another spectacular flop in a BCS game by tUOS.

[Wolvrin704]

How the hell did you figure? Did you read my scouting report on the Ducks below? All they have is a good running game. Which goes against our great run defense. Who do you think is going to win that battle? The rest of their team is mediocre. Pass offense, defense, and special teams is all average. We will beat them in a typical Tressel-ball close game.:rolleyes:

Who died and made you dictator? Am I not allowed my own opinions? God only knows you sure like to spew yours and many of which have no logic. I'm just going by how OSU usually does in BCS bowl games or is that not allowed?

How did that logic work against USC and Purdue? Here's another one for ya, against common opponents Oregon is 2-0, OSU is 0-2 so tell me again how you figure OSU wins?

I still don't know why the admins here allow you to stay and spew your garbage. Good day ssssuuuuurrrrr!!!!

[NorCal Buckeye]

Who died and made you dictator? Am I not allowed my own opinions? God only knows you sure like to spew yours and many of which have no logic. I'm just going by how OSU usually does in BCS bowl games or is that not allowed?

How did that logic work against USC and Purdue? Here's another one for ya, against common opponents Oregon is 2-0, OSU is 0-2 so tell me again how you figure OSU wins?

I still don't know why the admins here allow you to stay and spew your garbage. Good day ssssuuuuurrrrr!!!!

Oh dear, another unhappy michigan fan...having a bad hair day to boot. Sorry, sir!:rolleyes:

[Wolvrin704]

Oh dear, another unhappy michigan fan...having a bad hair day to boot. Sorry, sir!:rolleyes:

Oh I'm happy enough as I have many other interests in my life outside of UM football.

As for hair, I've kept my hair military cut short for 2 decades now. Not much to worry about with a bad hair day, nice try at a joke, utter fail. One could say you wear your underwear too tight with how you act though. :eek:

[shirc]

I predict another spectacular flop in a BCS game by tUOS.

I'm sure this will be as wrong as most of your other predictions for THE Ohio State University have been this season.

[The Michigan Man]

I'm sure this will be as wrong as most of your other predictions for THE Ohio State University have been this season.

I've predicted bowl flops for THE University of Ohio State for the past 4 years, and I am starting to resemble Nostradamus with uncanny accuracy.

[buckeye7]

I've predicted bowl flops for THE University of Ohio State for the past 4 years, and I am starting to resemble Nostradamus with uncanny accuracy.

Nostradamus, how have your predictions for Michigan's bowl games been?

[The Michigan Man]

Nostradamus, how have your predictions for Michigan's bowl games been?

I predict another 30+ years of consecutive bowl appearances for Michigan starting following the 2010 season.

[shirc]

I've predicted bowl flops for THE University of Ohio State for the past 4 years, and I am starting to resemble Nostradamus with uncanny accuracy.

Um, didn't it say this season?

Pretty sure you picked the buckeyes to lose to PSU and Iowa. You probably pick them to lose to any ranked team so you got USC right.

Let's face it, the Buckeyes are where they belong- The Rose Bowl, and they are one drive against USC and just a poor game against Purdue away from being undefeated and (shudder....) a bcs title game. That's alright- they'll be there next year!

And maybe, if Michigan works really hard next year, they might get in the Pizza Pizza Bowl.

[buckeye7]

Um, didn't it say this season?

Pretty sure you picked the buckeyes to lose to PSU and Iowa. You probably pick them to lose to any ranked team so you got USC right.

Let's face it, the Buckeyes are where they belong- The Rose Bowl, and they are one drive against USC and just a poor game against Purdue away from being undefeated and (shudder....) a bcs title game. That's alright- they'll be there next year!

And maybe, if Michigan works really hard next year, they might get in the Pizza Pizza Bowl.

hahah!!!!

I do think they have a good shot at running the table next year. A lot of talent coming back...

[NorCal Buckeye]

Um, didn't it say this season?

Pretty sure you picked the buckeyes to lose to PSU and Iowa. You probably pick them to lose to any ranked team so you got USC right.

Let's face it, the Buckeyes are where they belong- The Rose Bowl, and they are one drive against USC and just a poor game against Purdue away from being undefeated and (shudder....) a bcs title game. That's alright- they'll be there next year!

And maybe, if Michigan works really hard next year, they might get in the Pizza Pizza Bowl.

They will need more than hard work...let's add help from the refs, and a lot of luck. That is how bad they are.:rolleyes:

[shirc]

They will need more than hard work...let's add help from the refs, and a lot of luck. That is how bad they are.:rolleyes:

Yeah well, I was trying to be nice. lol

[rickyleach]

Oregon and ohio state , ha ha ha ayha ha ah ah ah aha ha ah ahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahhaha ahahhhhahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahaahaahaha hahahahahahahahhand you guys were praying for oregon state.........

[1OSUNUT]

Michigan's bowl prediction :D

[rickyleach]

Michigan's bowl prediction :D

hey nut , look on the bright side of things michigan go to any bowl they want...

[Bossgobbler23]

I'm not sure how to call this game yet. My first instinct told me OSU will finally end the shame it has brought the Big Ten, but now after what was shown on one of the college football shows I'm not sure. They pointed out that Oregon played two common opponents of OSU's, Purdue and USC. Oregon beat them both while OSU lost to both. If OSU's running game works I think they have a fair chance. If Oregon stuffs the box and OSU relies on a passing game or has to play from behind, they lose by a lot.

[shirc]

I'm not sure how to call this game yet. My first instinct told me OSU will finally end the shame it has brought the Big Ten, but now after what was shown on one of the college football shows I'm not sure. They pointed out that Oregon played two common opponents of OSU's, Purdue and USC. Oregon beat them both while OSU lost to both. If OSU's running game works I think they have a fair chance. If Oregon stuffs the box and OSU relies on a passing game or has to play from behind, they lose by a lot.

When has common opponents ever meant anything?

[rickyleach]

When has common opponents ever meant anything?

this is dumb , how about this one osu beat oregon in 1958 so i guess that means osu shoould be the favorite.

[buckeye7]

When has common opponents ever meant anything?

in math class: if a>b and b>c then a>c

Applying it to college football last year

Mississippi > NC Florida
Vanderbilt > Mississippi
Duke > Vanderbilt
Northwestern > Duke

Therefore Northwestern could beat Florida for the NC...

In all seriousness though the two games Oregon won against mutual opponents were at home. The two games they lost were on the road. I could be wrong but I don't think the rose bowl is at Eugene, Or.

[shirc]

in math class: if a>b and b>c then a>c

Applying it to college football last year

Mississippi > NC Florida
Vanderbilt > Mississippi
Duke > Vanderbilt
Northwestern > Duke

Therefore Northwestern could beat Florida for the NC...

In all seriousness though the two games Oregon won against mutual opponents were at home. The two games they lost were on the road. I could be wrong but I don't think the rose bowl is at Eugene, Or.

Thank you. I was looking for an example but was too lazy to research it.

[Bossgobbler23]

When has common opponents ever meant anything?

When betting or SERIOUSLY trying to figure out who is going to win, it is wise to consider all info and let the emotions go. You two are talking emiotion right now. I'm not saying that the Bucks won't win, but how can you NOT look at TWO common opponents in one year for a comparison, it would be foolish not to. The info Buck 7 gave is useless. It is not comparing two common opponents in one year, it is nothing more than cheerleading.

[buckeye7]

When betting or SERIOUSLY trying to figure out who is going to win, it is wise to consider all info and let the emotions go. You two are talking emiotion right now. I'm not saying that the Bucks won't win, but how can you NOT look at TWO common opponents in one year for a comparison, it would be foolish not to. The info Buck 7 gave is useless. It is not comparing two common opponents in one year, it is nothing more than cheerleading.

I didn't even say who I thought was going to win bg23. I just thought comparing teams like that was stupid.

OSU played USC the second game of the year. Do you not think a lot has changed since that game? OSU lost to Purdue because they had 5 turnovers. If they have 5 turnovers against Oregon they will lose that game as well.

[amazinblue]

In all seriousness though the two games Oregon won against mutual opponents were at home. The two games they lost were on the road. I could be wrong but I don't think the rose bowl is at Eugene, Or.

Well.. OSU lost both at home and on the road - so, the Buckeyes have proven that they can win or lose anywhere.

With Oregon - they've proved they can lose on the road.

The Rose Bowl will be considered an away game for both teams. Home and away records probably don't mean that much.

I like Oregon in this game. I think their offense is showing what it can do. And, it will probably be the toughtest test the Buckeyes will face this season.

[Bossgobbler23]

Well.. OSU lost both at home and on the road - so, the Buckeyes have proven that they can win or lose anywhere.

With Oregon - they've proved they can lose on the road.

The Rose Bowl will be considered an away game for both teams. Home and away records probably don't mean that much.

I like Oregon in this game. I think their offense is showing what it can do. And, it will probably be the toughtest test the Buckeyes will face this season.

I agree, I think the Bucks will have their hands full with the Oregon offense but at the same time, Oregon's D though not bad can be scored on. I think ball control will be OSU's key to success. With many 3 and outs however, they will get bombed IMO. I still don't know which way to pick this one.

[rickyleach]

i think ohio state and minny ,and northwestern are the only big10 teams to win their bowl. 3 wins and 4 losses.

[shirc]

i think ohio state and minny ,and northwestern are the only big10 teams to win their bowl. 3 wins and 4 losses.

I hope you're wrong Ricky. I know Iowa has their hands full, but they generally show up to play in bowl games. I think Wisky has a decent chance against Miami.

[Bossgobbler23]

I hope you're wrong Ricky. I know Iowa has their hands full, but they generally show up to play in bowl games. I think Wisky has a decent chance against Miami.

I agree, I think Iowa shows up for its bowl games and will win this one. I think Penn State has a good chance as well. LSU is going by name only this year. Though they still have a very good D, their offense is LOUSY!

[Voleye]

I hope Im not right. But with the three and outs, and getting 3 when they should have 7. Im going to say Osu 19 Oregon 27

[Swoosh]

Being Tressel has put a muzzle on TP, I think OSU wins it this year.

24-17 tOSU

[cartyboi]

Being Tressel has put a muzzle on TP, I think OSU wins it this year.

24-17 tOSU

I think for that exact same reason, OSU loses. Tressel has to let TP go to win this game. Conservative play won't beat Oregon

[Bossgobbler23]

I really teetered on this pick in the Yahoo College Bowl Pick Em. I went for the Big Ten and the upset against what my head told me. All the experts picked Oregon but I saw on College Football Live that Tressel was going to "unleash Pryor". Like Cartyboi said, Tressel is going to have to let Pryor do his thing if tOSU is going stand a chance. I think Tressel is tired of the losing the big games and will let it all hang out for this game (that means 2 more passes) LOL. :D GO BUCKS! I'm tired of the Big Ten taking a beating from every announcer. Time to win! I do think however that the Oregon (RR) offense will be able to move the ball.

[The Michigan Man]

Regardless of the outcome, I predict Blount jacks a Buckeye in the mouth.

Actually, this is the best chance tUOS has had in years for a win in a bowl. Otherwise, I think this would be 4 consecutive bowl losses.

[shirc]

Regardless of the outcome, I predict Blount jacks a Buckeye in the mouth.

Actually, this is the best chance tUOS has had in years for a win in a bowl. Otherwise, I think this would be 4 consecutive bowl losses.

The girl in you won't allow you to make an actual prediction eh? 4 straight bowl games would suck, but tis better to have gone and lost, than not gone at all methinks.

[Wolvrin704]

The girl in you won't allow you to make an actual prediction eh? 4 straight bowl games would suck, but tis better to have gone and lost, than not gone at all methinks.

Very true it is better to have gone than not at all, but I recall catching a lot of flak on here about UM losing 4 straight to USC, Texas and Nebraska. See a common theme here Buckeye fans?

[shirc]

Very true it is better to have gone than not at all, but I recall catching a lot of flak on here about UM losing 4 straight to USC, Texas and Nebraska. See a common theme here Buckeye fans?

Yep, absolutely. Just havin' fun with the girl.

[wolverine]

lets see

I look into my crystal ball and it says

Ducks 31 bucks 14

[shirc]

lets see

I look into my crystal ball and it says

Ducks 31 bucks 14

Your crystal ball is defective. Hope you kept the receipt and get your money back. The Quackateers are goin' DOWN HARD!!!


GO BUCKS

[Bossgobbler23]

Your crystal ball is defective. Hope you kept the receipt and get your money back. The Quackateers are goin' DOWN HARD!!!


GO BUCKS

LMAO, though I went for the upset that Quack Attack is nothing to..."Quack at" They WILL score points in that game.

[rickyleach]

its no secret how i feel about ohio state but i really think this year they play well and win it all depends on how the osu O line plays and how they run the football if they cant run the ball and force pryor to do more then what tressel has planned which is play tight to the vest then osu could be in trouble.im thinking a 27- 24 game with osu winning

[shirc]

its no secret how i feel about ohio state but i really think this year they play well and win it all depends on how the osu O line plays and how they run the football if they cant run the ball and force pryor to do more then what tressel has planned which is play tight to the vest then osu could be in trouble.im thinking a 27- 24 game with osu winning

And that bodes well for the buckeyes as the line/running game was much improved over the last 5 weeks of the season. Along with my prediction of an Ohio State victory, I am predicting that this will be Terrell Pryor's best game as a buckeye to date. Add all that together and the donalds and daffys are in big trouble.

[rickyleach]

And that bodes well for the buckeyes as the line/running game was much improved over the last 5 weeks of the season. Along with my prediction of an Ohio State victory, I am predicting that this will be Terrell Pryor's best game as a buckeye to date. Add all that together and the donalds and daffys are in big trouble.

shirc it seems like less is better for pryor ,he still is probably having trouble reading D and keep it simple stupid might apply for him. you can tell where the osu coaching staff has reeled him in and know he still needs work to be that so called great player with pryor mistake free football is a thin playbook

[Bossgobbler23]

shirc it seems like less is better for pryor ,he still is probably having trouble reading D and keep it simple stupid might apply for him. you can tell where the osu coaching staff has reeled him in and know he still needs work to be that so called great player with pryor mistake free football is a thin playbook

I agree, they went with less passing and a more conservative approach to cut down on his turnovers.

[shirc]

I didn't necessarily mean that TP will break any passing records in the RB, but it will be his best to date and a sign of things to come.

[buckeye7]

Read on another blog that Mr. Ray Small hasn't been attending practices and will probably be out for the bowl game. Anyone else read that?

[shirc]

Read on another blog that Mr. Ray Small hasn't been attending practices and will probably be out for the bowl game. Anyone else read that?

I hadn't heard that one. If it's true, that's the story of his career- a very talented but underachieving screw up!

[ironhide]

Come on, the Michigan spread moved the ball on your great "defense". You did not dominate us up front. How could that be? We just suck mighty.
Oregon comes in with a line that is bigger than your defensive front 7 and big fast runners and Qb. You simply are not going to stop them. Remember, this was the team that mauled USC for 47 points.
Offensively, TP could not do much against our defense when he should have had a field day. You won the game running the ball. 22 points when Illinois scored 38?
OSU in the past 3 games has in my view gotten weaker. Since the Penn State game, it has been down hill. What happened? Injuries. The front 7 has taken some hits. Maybe that will get better.
But offensively you don't have the tools to score with Oregon and defensively, they are just as strong up front as your team.
This one could be even ugly.
Merry Christmas!

[1OSUNUT]

I happen to think that Ohio State played very flat against Michigan. You guys did not get their best effort. Maybe they just took you guys for granted based on your record and the way you played all year - I don't know. I did not see a fired up team except for the one drive after Michigan scored. The Bucks seemed to get serious a awhile and went right down the field to ice the game. They are also on record saying that the special uniforms they wore - were a distraction. Who knows.

I just know that the Buckeyes did not play Michigan with the same intensity that they played Iowa, USC or Penn State.

[The Michigan Man]

I happen to think that Ohio State played very flat against Michigan. You guys did not get their best effort. Maybe they just took you guys for granted based on your record and the way you played all year - I don't know. I did not see a fired up team except for the one drive after Michigan scored. The Bucks seemed to get serious a awhile and went right down the field to ice the game. They are also on record saying that the special uniforms they wore - were a distraction. Who knows.

I just know that the Buckeyes did not play Michigan with the same intensity that they played Iowa, USC or Penn State.

Those uniforms were absolutely awful - but not awful enough to affect a game, come on. Oregon seems to play just fine in their weekly version of ridiculous, outlandish uniforms.

[buckeye7]

Come on, the Michigan spread moved the ball on your great "defense". You did not dominate us up front. How could that be? We just suck mighty.
Oregon comes in with a line that is bigger than your defensive front 7 and big fast runners and Qb. You simply are not going to stop them. Remember, this was the team that mauled USC for 47 points.
Offensively, TP could not do much against our defense when he should have had a field day. You won the game running the ball. 22 points when Illinois scored 38?
OSU in the past 3 games has in my view gotten weaker. Since the Penn State game, it has been down hill. What happened? Injuries. The front 7 has taken some hits. Maybe that will get better.
But offensively you don't have the tools to score with Oregon and defensively, they are just as strong up front as your team.
This one could be even ugly.
Merry Christmas!

Looks like we both have the same game to look forward to but for different reasons.

Merry Christmas to you as well! and maybe, just maybe, 2010 will bring a bowl game for Michigan!!

[rickyleach]

I hadn't heard that one. If it's true, that's the story of his career- a very talented but underachieving screw up!

shiirc would i be right in saying tressel has delt with ray small with kid gloves because of the osu teddyginn glenville pipeline, tressel doesnt want to fracture that farm system and piss t ginn sr off . his boys are his boys..

[Wolvrin704]

shiirc would i be right in saying tressel has delt with ray small with kid gloves because of the osu teddyginn glenville pipeline, tressel doesnt want to fracture that farm system and piss t ginn sr off . his boys are his boys..

Yeah, God forbid he makes Ginn Sr mad after all we saw the result with Carr and UM for doing the same. Never should a college coach be subservient to the whims of a HS coach but apparently its happening.

[1OSUNUT]

Think what you want - but they have a strong friendship. You guys can think whatever you want - but they are pretty tight and talk more often then you think. The one thing about Ted Ginn, Sr that you don't understand is that he makes you responsible for your own actions - his son included. When Tressel came down of Smith - Ginn backed him. If Ray Small screws up - Ginn will stand by whatever Tressel decides to do. He knows that Tressel has given Ray more then enough chances to do good. It would take something absolutly devasating to fracture that Glenville pipeline.

[buckeye7]

Dispatch sources: Small, Rose, DeLande (backup RB) all out of Rose Bowl violation of team rules. Story in paper Monday. (per KgordonOSU twitter)

[cartyboi]

Heard about Rose.. What did Small do?

[rickyleach]

Think what you want - but they have a strong friendship. You guys can think whatever you want - but they are pretty tight and talk more often then you think. The one thing about Ted Ginn, Sr that you don't understand is that he makes you responsible for your own actions - his son included. When Tressel came down of Smith - Ginn backed him. If Ray Small screws up - Ginn will stand by whatever Tressel decides to do. He knows that Tressel has given Ray more then enough chances to do good. It would take something absolutly devasating to fracture that Glenville pipeline.

nut ok i can understand that but what did lloyd do to woods that was so devestating to the point of ginn hating michigan , and if ginn is who you say he is then why does he blackball michigan ,after all im assuming education is also important to ginn sr and what better place to play sports and get your degree then at a top 20 school in the country in education, look say what you will but osu cant hold a candle to U OF M in that department., it is a national fact and what happened to woods was years ago.

[1OSUNUT]

That is one of the great secrets of all time Ricky. My guess is that somebody lied or did something to screw over Woods at Michigan. Woods was one of Ginn's first star players and a person who started the Glenville turn around. I understand that was years ago - but Ginn and Tressel have become closer over the years. The Glenville community have become Buckeye crazed fans - and so have the players. They have a sense of pride and feel a connection to the sucess OSU has had - and they should.

With that love of OSU comes a dislike for Michigan. Why help the enemy ? That is how Michigan is viewed in Ohio - the dark side. Sure education is important to Ginn and Michigan is a fine school. But lets face it, most of these football players are not going to school to become doctors. Many of the classes or majors these kids select can be taught well almost anywhere. You can get just as good of an education at OSU or damn near anywhere - as you could at Michigan in many subjects. Sure many schools specialize in areas that make them world known or nationally ranked - but how many football players take those classes.

For every Craig Krenzel - there is 100 Andy Katzenmoyer's. That is a fact. So when you consider that many of these kids would of dropped out of high school or never attended college anyway - not going to Michigan is no big deal. Getting a degree from anywhere is a giant step forward from where they would of been without Ginn's help. So he sends them to OSU, Cincy, Iowa, MAC schools and elsewhere - without having to help the enemy.

[shirc]

shiirc would i be right in saying tressel has delt with ray small with kid gloves because of the osu teddyginn glenville pipeline, tressel doesnt want to fracture that farm system and piss t ginn sr off . his boys are his boys..

Well, Nut pretty much summed it up. Small is a "small time" (pardon the pun) kind of clown. He's not a Maurice Clarrett (yet). I believe in Tressel and that whatever issues Small has, they never warranted being kicked off the team (until now, as the Rose Bowl would have been his final game).

Those who foolishly question Tressel cannot deny this simple fact: Tressel just took a huge return threat out of the 2nd most important bowl game of Coach's OSU career to date.

[rickyleach]

That is one of the great secrets of all time Ricky. My guess is that somebody lied or did something to screw over Woods at Michigan. Woods was one of Ginn's first star players and a person who started the Glenville turn around. I understand that was years ago - but Ginn and Tressel have become closer over the years. The Glenville community have become Buckeye crazed fans - and so have the players. They have a sense of pride and feel a connection to the sucess OSU has had - and they should.

With that love of OSU comes a dislike for Michigan. Why help the enemy ? That is how Michigan is viewed in Ohio - the dark side. Sure education is important to Ginn and Michigan is a fine school. But lets face it, most of these football players are not going to school to become doctors. Many of the classes or majors these kids select can be taught well almost anywhere. You can get just as good of an education at OSU or damn near anywhere - as you could at Michigan in many subjects. Sure many schools specialize in areas that make them world known or nationally ranked - but how many football players take those classes.

For every Craig Krenzel - there is 100 Andy Katzenmoyer's. That is a fact. So when you consider that many of these kids would of dropped out of high school or never attended college anyway - not going to Michigan is no big deal. Getting a degree from anywhere is a giant step forward from where they would of been without Ginn's help. So he sends them to OSU, Cincy, Iowa, MAC schools and elsewhere - without having to help the enemy.

nut great post i appreciate your thought on this, that pipeline is one i wish michigan had.

[Bighouse]

One letter can describe OSU's game with Oregon....L

[amazinblue]

Those who foolishly question Tressel cannot deny this simple fact: Tressel just took a huge return threat out of the 2nd most important bowl game of Coach's OSU career to date.

Shirc,

So, what previous bowl game is more important than this one? I would think that the MNC beatdowns by LSU and Florida were more important than this one. And, of course, the MNC game against Miami - was that the one "more important" than this game?

LMAO - what kind of logic did you use to figure this one out?

[shirc]

Shirc,

So, what previous bowl game is more important than this one? I would think that the MNC beatdowns by LSU and Florida were more important than this one. And, of course, the MNC game against Miami - was that the one "more important" than this game?

LMAO - what kind of logic did you use to figure this one out?

Well, I'll admit that emotion may have trumped logic to a degree. However, looking in hindsight, this Rose Bowl is a critical step in getting The Ohio State University back into BCS Championship contention. That is the point of view that I'm coming from.

[Bighouse]

Do they play defense in the Pac Ten?

I think Ohio State will run all over the ducks or the beavers. Pryor will pass for 100-150 and run for 75 - 100 and the defense will dominate!

Only question is: Is it duck season or beaver season?

GO BUCKS
Shirc = idiot

[shirc]

Shirc = idiot


Bighouse = two thousand and LATE....yet AGAAAAAAAIN!

[Wolvrin704]

Well, I'll admit that emotion may have trumped logic to a degree. However, looking in hindsight, this Rose Bowl is a critical step in getting The Ohio State University back into BCS Championship contention. That is the point of view that I'm coming from.

So what happens to the program if they lose yet another one?

[1OSUNUT]

We were not even supposed to be in a BCS bowl - remember. We are in a slight rebuild mode this year. I'm excited that they had the season that they had already. Many of you had us wrote off this year. This was the year that we would not overcome the loss of talent - we would lose 4 or 5 games. I think the Bucks will play very well on NYD. I would like to see us win because it could be a huge stepping stone to a great 2010 season.

Side note: Ohio State plays Miami in week 2 next year and they lost Cooper (#1 RB) for the whole 2010 season.

[Wolvrin704]

We were not even supposed to be in a BCS bowl - remember. We are in a slight rebuild mode this year. I'm excited that they had the season that they had already. Many of you had us wrote off this year. This was the year that we would not overcome the loss of talent - we would lose 4 or 5 games. I think the Bucks will play very well on NYD. I would like to see us win because it could be a huge stepping stone to a great 2010 season.

Side note: Ohio State plays Miami in week 2 next year and they lost Cooper (#1 RB) for the whole 2010 season.

Says who? All the publications I read preseason had OSU in the top 10 and thus in BCS bowl. Heck in the preseason polls they were ranked #6 and higher than any other B10 team. You need to get off your rocker and quit walking around with a chip on your shoulder about your program lacking respect. The Big Ten even voted OSU as the favorite for the 2009 season.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/072709aaa.html

OSU holds all the cards for their future. They have been at or near the top for 7 years now, what will they do different to return to the very top?

[Bighouse]

Bighouse = two thousand and LATE....yet AGAAAAAAAIN!
Dont forget to post more photos of yourself playing guitar hero at halftime:D

[shirc]

So what happens to the program if they lose yet another one?

It obviously sets the Buckeyes back from getting back to the top. I really believe there's a lot riding on this game. The seniors can go out as the winningest class in Ohio State history and this can kick off a huge season in '10.

[shirc]

Dont forget to post more photos of yourself playing guitar hero at halftime:D

I would but I can't play that game fer shite. I'm sure you're on the expert level on the Culture Club edition though.:)

[rickyleach]

osu 31 oregon 23

[shirc]

We were not even supposed to be in a BCS bowl - remember. We are in a slight rebuild mode this year. I'm excited that they had the season that they had already. Many of you had us wrote off this year. This was the year that we would not overcome the loss of talent - we would lose 4 or 5 games. I think the Bucks will play very well on NYD. I would like to see us win because it could be a huge stepping stone to a great 2010 season.

Side note: Ohio State plays Miami in week 2 next year and they lost Cooper (#1 RB) for the whole 2010 season.

Most of the preseason mags DID have OSU in the top ten and winning the big ten thus making them bcs eligible. You are right that the Buckeyes are going to play well today and it will be a huge step for the '10 season.

[1OSUNUT]

I remember Penn State being the pick of many mambers on this site - as well as the experts on ESPN. The Buckeyes were picked by many of you on this site to finish behind PSU, Iowa and Wisconsin. I thought we would win the Big Ten this year - but you guys all laughed at me.

I think Ohio State will play very well on defense today and do just enough on offense to win the game. I think the key will be our defense and running game. If we can get a few turnovers it could put pressure on Oregon. We also need to run the ball with force. If we can run (200+ yards) then it will make Pryor more dangerous while keeping that Oregon offense (and our defense) off the field.


I like the Buckeyes chances.

[Wolvrin704]

I remember Penn State being the pick of many mambers on this site - as well as the experts on ESPN. The Buckeyes were picked by many of you on this site to finish behind PSU, Iowa and Wisconsin. I thought we would win the Big Ten this year - but you guys all laughed at me.

I think Ohio State will play very well on defense today and do just enough on offense to win the game. I think the key will be our defense and running game. If we can get a few turnovers it could put pressure on Oregon. We also need to run the ball with force. If we can run (200+ yards) then it will make Pryor more dangerous while keeping that Oregon offense (and our defense) off the field.


I like the Buckeyes chances.

Of course most guys on here are not going to pick OSU, we're UM fans. I'll garauntee you most guys on here won't pick them next year again. But the fact is the B10 coaches picked them to win and the majority of preseason lists had OSU winning.

But even better NUT is your claim about OSU not being picked to win by ESPN. I found this gem where you post the B10 picks from ESPN....

http://www.hailvictors.com/showthread.php?t=1109&highlight=season+finishes

Now who is picked to finish first? That would be OSU. Quit trying to go around here with a chip on your shoulder claiming no one respects OSU. True, most members in here won't respect them because it is a UM fan site and we have a general distaste for OSU.

You get upset because you say most of us picked OSU to lose 4-5 games. I call BS because I checked the prediction thread and most picked between 2-4 losses for OSU. Meanwhile all of you OSU homers picked an undefeated season. So you guys are just as bad coming form the other direction.

Enjoy the game today.

[shirc]

I think Ohio State will play very well on defense today and do just enough on offense to win the game. I think the key will be our defense and running game. If we can get a few turnovers it could put pressure on Oregon. We also need to run the ball with force. If we can run (200+ yards) then it will make Pryor more dangerous while keeping that Oregon offense (and our defense) off the field.


I like the Buckeyes chances.

I agree with you but I've got this feeling that the Buckeye offense is gonna do more than enough. I have a feeling that Boom and Zoom are gonna go off.

[Bighouse]

osu 31 oregon 23
WTF is wrong with you? Wake up Ricky!!!!!

[shirc]

WTF is wrong with you? Wake up Ricky!!!!!

Judging by the halftime score, I'd say that Ricky's prediction has a chance. Why don't YOU wake up Outhouse?

[buckeye7]

Judging by the halftime score, I'd say that Ricky's prediction has a chance. Why don't YOU wake up Outhouse?

Hopefully the 2nd half we don't continue to field goal them to death...I'll take the lead at the half though!

[shirc]

I predict another spectacular flop in a BCS game by tUOS.

Your predictions blow.

Here's one for ya: Pryor will beat Michigan next season, and if he's still around in '11.

[Bighouse]

Your predictions blow.

Here's one for ya: Pryor will beat Michigan next season, and if he's still around in '11.
Hey Guitar Hero boy, dont forget to turn off your xbox. Your prediction is wrong.

[Swoosh]

Being Tressel has put a muzzle on TP, I think OSU wins it this year.

24-17 tOSU


Damn I was close, LOL

[shirc]

Hey Guitar Hero boy, dont forget to turn off your xbox. Your prediction is wrong.

First, I'm a PS3 guy.

Second, predictions are never wrong until the time comes. And I'll be here to tell you about it when my prediction is proven to be correct.

[shirc]

I predict another spectacular flop in a BCS game by tUOS.

How's that crow tasting girl? mmm...mmm...mmm! yummy yummy in my tummy.

Here's a prediction honey: THE Ohio State University will be ranked 4th in the preseason and ranked 1st after the bcs championship game.

MMM...MMM...MMM. How's it taste girly?

[The Michigan Man]

How's that crow tasting girl? mmm...mmm...mmm! yummy yummy in my tummy.

Here's a prediction honey: THE Ohio State University will be ranked 4th in the preseason and ranked 1st after the bcs championship game.

MMM...MMM...MMM. How's it taste girly?

(The fact that you are calling me "honey" combined with that new profile pic is probably the creepiest thing I've ever seen on this website. Are you wasted at 4:25pm or something?)

Having said that, congrats on beating Oregon during a very down year in the PAC 10. Oregon played Oregon St for the conference championship - wow, clash of the titans.

USC is the class of the conference - you are 0-2 against them. Beat USC and then come in here and start bragging.

[shirc]

(The fact that you are calling me "honey" combined with that new profile pic is probably the creepiest thing I've ever seen on this website. Are you wasted at 4:25pm or something?)

Having said that, congrats on beating Oregon during a very down year in the PAC 10. Oregon played Oregon St for the conference championship - wow, clash of the titans.

USC is the class of the conference - you are 0-2 against them. Beat USC and then come in here and start bragging.

I didn't think you'd have the class to do it. Down year Pac ten, blah blah blah. We beat the pac ten champs honey. That's better than beating USC this year.

[Wolvrin704]

I didn't think you'd have the class to do it. Down year Pac ten, blah blah blah. We beat the pac ten champs honey. That's better than beating USC this year.

How ironic. You beat the PAC 10 champs who beat USC but couldn't actually beat USC.

[shirc]

How ironic. You beat the PAC 10 champs who beat USC but couldn't actually beat USC.

That's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. The Buckeyes came a long way from that errant USC game. Even Michigirl knows that.