Ofer Tressel

[Bo23]

Couldn't happen to a bigger punk. Also, 1douchenut....F-U! Plus, Colt's mom is hotter than Pryor's!!!!!!! Is Tress still choking on the big dong again?:D

[RealwomenwearMaizeNBlue]

Holy Crap! Great game - with even a greater outcome! Hooohaaa!

[BLEEDINGBLUE]

Couldn't happen to a bigger punk. Also, 1douchenut....F-U! Plus, Colt's mom is hotter than Pryor's!!!!!!! Is Tress still choking on the big dong again?:D

Maybe if Ol' sweatervest kept Boeckman in they might have had a chance. When do the Alum say thay have had enough of not being able to win the big games?

[Inflames]

Good game. I wish Michigan was playing but another bowl let down for osu is still fun to watch!

I am feeling some strong schadenfreude tonight.....=)



Schadenfreude: is pleasure taken from observing the misery of another.

[Sten Carlson]

Maybe if Ol' sweatervest kept Boeckman in they might have had a chance. When do the Alum say thay have had enough of not being able to win the big games?

At least they showed up this time! I think that Texas was seriously suffering from the post season rustiness that is almost inevitable with almost a month between games.

It was great game! I had not doubt that Colt was going to lead his Horns to a victory -- I don't know why, but I just had a feeling after they got the spot for the 1st down that they were going to win!

TP needs to learn to throw, but man can that kid run. He makes everyone else look like they're standing still! Scary prospect to think that we have to play him possibly three more times! He just glides, and makes people miss like no body I've ever seen!

[bigboyBlue]

I would almost chalk this game up to a tie, no one gave the Bucks a chance, and they played alright. But holy smokes, Texas has some serious athletes!! And you're right, that game really wasn't as close as the score indicated.

A question though: Does Pryor seriously look like QB material? Kid looks......sensitive...on the field.

[RealwomenwearMaizeNBlue]

Very classy - Colt McCoy just thanked his Lord & Savior Jesus Christ first. Not something you hear out of your average College player. Good for win for him & the rest of the Texans!

[bighousemike84]

hey real good to see you again.

I enjoyed that game thoroughly. There is something so immensely satisfying in watching UOS lose another big game. B10 or not I cant root for that team. I hate them too much to be able to root for them

[Inflames]

I would almost chalk this game up to a tie, no one gave the Bucks a chance, and they played alright. But holy smokes, Texas has some serious athletes!! And you're right, that game really wasn't as close as the score indicated.

A question though: Does Pryor seriously look like QB material? Kid looks......sensitive...on the field.

I know he is a young kid, I'm not kicking him while hes down, but man TP needs to work on his throwing. I only caught the game after the half but his throwing does not look good at all. He can run like the wind but not a good passer in my book. Not even a decent one for that matter.

Am I off on this??

[Sten Carlson]

Barry Switzer said it, OSU's inability to throw the ball, i.e., TP's horrible arm, cost them the football game!

As I said before, I would rather have a QB, like Colt McCoy that came in with a great arm, and has developed into a great runner, and a great runner that needs to develop into a great passer.

[bighousemike84]

Why didnt Tressel use Wells more in the second half?

I think Pryors inability to pass hurt them but if you look at the first half compared to the second half UOS ran the ball so well in the first but for whatever reason they got away from pounding it in the second.

Another example of the breakdown of coaching by Jim the sweatervested ninny

[Inflames]

I have to say uos wins with Boeckman playing the whole game. That kid looked like he was way more of a threat than TP. I am not a coach but how does JT not keep that arm in the game???

[Mike Furley]

Does Pryor seriously look like QB material? Kid looks......sensitive...on the field.

After seeing him catch the fade for a touchdown, maybe he should move to receiver full time. Plaxico Burress (excusing his legal problems) has proven that a tall athletic receiver can have a very productive NFL career.

The simple truth is that no NFL owner really wants his multi-million dollar investment at QB running around taking hits. All of these college QB's operating the spread option are being done a disservice to their professional aspirations and they will wind up being NFL projects like Vince Young who are abandoned for a 40 year old alcoholic the first chance the team has at a real playoff opportunity.

As for OSU and their national reputation...the game acquitted them a little bit. I'm sure though that they'll continue to have their detractors until they beat USC or an SEC team in a bowl/big game.

As for Tressel, I think he cost the team the game with poor timeout management.

One timeout should have been called in the first half when they were rushing the FG unit out there. Pettrey would have nailed that 50 yarder like he did on his previous one had the team been organized. 3 points wass the margin of defeat.

The second timeout should have been used when the defense was sucking wind in the 3rd quarter and back on their heels leading to Texas touchdown. The defense looked clearly disorganized and exhausted. Good college basketball coaches use timeouts to stem momentum all the time but football coaches treat them like they are domestic oil - never to be used. Perhaps if the defense could have regrouped, maybe they might have held Texas to a field goal on that drive.

As for the players like Laurinaitis, Freeman, Boone, Robiskie, Hartline, Russle, Wells, etc... they've been entirely too inconsistent. None of them will be remembered as all-time greats at OSU. Wierd considering they leave school with two outrght conference titles, two shared titles, 4 BCS games (two of which were National Title games) and 4 wins over Michigan. I guess that would be a great achievement at 100 other D-1 schools.

[gator]

I have to say uos wins with Boeckman playing the whole game. That kid looked like he was way more of a threat than TP. I am not a coach but how does JT not keep that arm in the game???

I have to disagree. Boeckman was in on every crucial play that didn't go OSU's way. I'm not sure he had 3 completions in the first half, but he did hit his groove in the 2nd half. Regardless, he can't take a sack with 7 seconds left on the clock. I also seem to remember a pass play early in the game that was closer to 3 Longhorns than any OSU receiver. I thought he made some poor decisions tonight that offset just as much as he did good. Further, I thought he disrupted Pryor's momentum when they put Boeckman in early. Pryor is certainly a playmaker. Didn't he pick up a 3rd and 13 with his legs. All in all, it was a commendable performance for the Buckeyes. I thought they had it locked up after their last TD, but they just fell down on D after that 4th down play (which I happened to agree with on the spot).

[TNTWolverine]

Very classy - Colt McCoy just thanked his Lord & Savior Jesus Christ first. Not something you hear out of your average College player. Good for win for him & the rest of the Texans!

Are you joking? You see players in every sport say that before they answer questions after a win...

EDIT: And yeah, Boekman was better today, but if he had a line in front he would have done much better. Don't blame him for dropping back and getting hit so quick.

[Mike Furley]

I have to say uos wins with Boeckman playing the whole game. That kid looked like he was way more of a threat than TP. I am not a coach but how does JT not keep that arm in the game???

I think the answer to that question can be found in reviewing the 2nd to last play of the game - he holds the ball too damn long. You simply cannot take a sack on that play. Where they took over, a dump off with a run after catch could have given them the ball right at mid field. Then they'd only need another 10 yards to give Pettry a shot at a long field goal attempt.

[Inflames]

I have to disagree. Boeckman was in on every crucial play that didn't go OSU's way. I'm not sure he had 3 completions in the first half, but he did hit his groove in the 2nd half. Regardless, he can't take a sack with 7 seconds left on the clock. I also seem to remember a pass play early in the game that was closer to 3 Longhorns than any OSU receiver. I thought he made some poor decisions tonight that offset just as much as he did good. Further, I thought he disrupted Pryor's momentum when they put Boeckman in early. Pryor is certainly a playmaker. Didn't he pick up a 3rd and 13 with his legs. All in all, it was a commendable performance for the Buckeyes. I thought they had it locked up after their last TD, but they just fell down on D after that 4th down play (which I happened to agree with on the spot).


You may be right. I came in just after halftime tonight and going from what I saw I thought Boeckman looked very good when he was in. Pryor running imo was not nearly as big a threat as a well thrown deep ball. Pryor looked to be more of a threat to Texas catching the ball than throwing it.

I do agree that it was a great performance.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

Im not gonna rip on OSU because it really was a close game, closer than I thought it would be....BUT Pryor's arm is terrible, like pathetic I dont know how he was so highly rated with an arm like that, truly Sheridanesque. That being said if he can learn how to become even an above average college passer he will be extremely dangerous, fortunately for us I dont really see that happening.

[MoellerLover69(LloydCarr)]

OSU had to lose this one to keep the tradition alive!

[bluestimestwo]

Does anybody find it kind of ironic that the only time that Pryor had ANY success was when he was running plays out of RR's offense?

He is dangerous with his legs, but his passing is beyond pathetic. I realize that his speed is deceptive, but Texas should have had about a half-dozen more sacks if they took decent angles. Hopefully as Michigan's QBs get more athletic our D will learn how to defend such players.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

Does anybody find it kind of ironic that the only time that Pryor had ANY success was when he was running plays out of RR's offense?

I actually thought something similar to this while watching the game. But the I remembered how much they signed him for, and those thoughts quickly disappeared. Oh and by the way, kudos to tressel for pulling boekman out from under that bus he threw him under after the usc game. (not really)

[Bo23]

Does anyone actually think the Lord Jesus Christ gives a damn about who wins a football game? Give me a break!!!

[rickyleach]

Im proud of ole tressy , ofer 4 in big games , and im proud of t,pryor too, someday he will learn how to play qb , texas ,even though they needed a great comeback to win , had 488 total yards on that great osu d ,the same one where everyone came back for their final season to win what nothin....congrats buckeyes, and good luck with crazy legs pryor at qb /athlete

[Rockie]

Very classy - Colt McCoy just thanked his Lord & Savior Jesus Christ first. Not something you hear out of your average College player. Good for win for him & the rest of the Texans!

I seriously don't think God cares if Texas won or not, I think God is more concern with what is going on in Isreal. Seriously, that could of been Pryor up there "Thanking the Good Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ first" too.

[Blue In Ohio]

Inspite of constantly hearing all year how great Ohio State is and how bad Michigan and RR is I actually wanted the Bucks to win this one not for their fans but for the big ten. It hurt especially for the fact that Texas stole the game like they did on the last play of that Rose bowl a few years ago and the way a late hit out of bounds stole the osu michigan game back in 06 which by the way I think was a very questionable call. For all those who think Pryor can't throw they need to think back to this last Michigan/OSU game when Pryor had some nice long touchdown throws. I wouldn't get your hopes up that he can't play. He's just a freshmen quarterback and happened to play like one thats all.

[Columbusisawhore]

I actually wanted the Bucks to win this one not for their fans but for the big ten.

F the Big 10... "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." - Sun Tzu. I am for any team that plays OSU... except Notre Dame... then i root for the Meteor.

[bighousemike84]

I do think that Pryor can throw, in fact I think Pryor can throw pretty well but right now when he throws the ball its all arm. His throwing mechanics are terrible. You could see it against PSU when he bombed it at the end of the game. It was all arm and of course the ball was about 2 yards short of its target.
If he can learn how to step into his throws and how to put zip on the ball then he will be a truly dangerous player. While I think Pryor has the talent to be a Heisman candidate I think if he doesn't learn to throw better than the Heisman voters wont ever vote him in

[Buckeye Sweetie]

Pryor is reminding me of Jackson. He has time though to develop into hopefully a good passer. Honestly though, the problem in the beginning was good passes to Robiskie.........towards the end he was catching the crappy passes! I think we've found a way to throw to our receivers! Holy Hell could they have dropped more???? No wonder Pryor stopped throwing! Everything was being dropped!

[bigboyBlue]

For all those who think Pryor can't throw they need to think back to this last Michigan/OSU game when Pryor had some nice long touchdown throws. I wouldn't get your hopes up that he can't play. He's just a freshmen quarterback and happened to play like one thats all.

Pryor's long throws in the UM game were pretty bad too, high arc and wobbly. Hell we gave up a career passing day to a third string Purdue RB, so its hard to use us as a benchmark. Not getting my hopes up, but with a half decent secondary, he is not a passing threat....yet.

[Blue In Ohio]

The way we got blown out by OSU a few months ago now only looks worse now that they have lost to Texas. If Ohio State went and won big it would have not only made Michigan look better but the whole conference. Jim Tressel is starting to remind me of somebody, hmmm could it be Lloyd Carr maybe???? I'll be at the Michigan/OSU game next year and stay sober so I can yell at the top of my lungs every time OSU is on offense. If by some miracle we could win next year who knows maybe tressel could soon join the company of John Cooper.

[Buckeye Sweetie]

Pryor's long throws in the UM game were pretty bad too, high arc and wobbly. Hell we gave up a career passing day to a third string Purdue RB, so its hard to use us as a benchmark. Not getting my hopes up, but with a half decent secondary, he is not a passing threat....yet.

Very well said. He has potential. I think it comes down to wether or not he wants it bad enough. It's going to be up to him to develop his talent that is buried. Hopefully he will, would be a shame to see a talent go to waste.


If by some miracle we could win next year who knows maybe tressel could soon join the company of John Cooper

Tress is far from being a Cooper. I can see Carr in this, but to me, that's a pretty big compliment. Carr WAS a great coach.

[blueisbetterthanred]

I give credit where it's due, osu played a much tougher game than I thought they would. They actually kept a game competitive until the end. It was a fun game to watch.

Too bad pryor throws like my mom....

;)

[michAGAIN]

Too bad pryor throws like my mom....

;)

I've seen your mom throw. Believe me, Pryor's not even that good.

[1OSUNUT]

You guys can say what you want about Pryor, but his throwing will be much better next year. I'm sure the reason why you talk so much about him is because you know Michigan will never beat him while he is in Columbus.

[blueisbetterthanred]

you know Michigan will never beat him while he is in Columbus.

I didn't hear TP was transferring. He got sad again? :p

I'm sure his throwing WILL be better next year. It HAS to be if he just practices.

[Todd]

You guys can say what you want about Pryor, but his throwing will be much better next year. I'm sure the reason why you talk so much about him is because you know Michigan will never beat him while he is in Columbus.

Alas, we agree! His throwing will definitely be better next year...cause it CAN'T get any worse!

Am I the only one here that thinks that Pryor would make a much better wide-out? In fact, there's no doubt he would have a better opportunity in the NFL at WR than at QB.

In addition, I know I'm putting the cart before the horse...but, I'm thinking Michigan may have dodged a bullet by losing Pryor. There's no doubt to me that Forcier will be a better passer. He won't have the size and some of the athleticism...but, with his accuracy, he's a better dual threat than TP.

I see defenses loading up against the TP's run next season, forcing him to throw the ball. Once Tate gets acclimated, I don't see defenses doing the same to him.

[Mich97c]

Alas, we agree! His throwing will definitely be better next year...cause it CAN'T get any worse!

Am I the only one here that thinks that Pryor would make a much better wide-out? In fact, there's no doubt he would have a better opportunity in the NFL at WR than at QB.

In addition, I know I'm putting the cart before the horse...but, I'm thinking Michigan may have dodged a bullet by losing Pryor. There's no doubt to me that Forcier will be a better passer. He won't have the size and some of the athleticism...but, with his accuracy, he's a better dual threat than TP.

I see defenses loading up against the TP's run next season, forcing him to throw the ball. Once Tate gets acclimated, I don't see defenses doing the same to him.

I think he would of been better off in the NBA. No way a NFL team takes a chance at QB after the busts of Young and Vick. If he goes to the NFL it would be at WR.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

the fact that he is at the end of his freshman season and still has such poor mechanics, leads me to believe he wont improve greatly. he will never be the talent troy smith was thats for sure. great runner+shitty passer= WR
enjoy him while tate is throwing bombs down the field, no legit WR is going to go to OSU til he proves himself as a passer

[rickyleach]

Blueinohio. You said it first and i second it, tressel is in fact starting to look like lloyd, earlier this season he said he made the switch in qbees because he wanted to put the best guy in that would give us a chance to win, well he guessed wrong , beockmen should have been the guy getting the most snaps last nite and pryor should have been the trump card ,i think this would have been better for osu, lets be real here t,pryor does not throw the football very well againsy quality teams and he does not read defences very good, did he throw to anyone but robiski , enough said ,he is a alot of work in progress as a true qb, shhit henne was better then him as a qb his freshmen year, the kid has along way to go..

[amazinblue]

You guys can say what you want about Pryor, but his throwing will be much better next year. I'm sure the reason why you talk so much about him is because you know Michigan will never beat him while he is in Columbus.

Nut,

I'll take that bet. You name the stakes. And, just in case you're wondering what the exact wager is - it's this - Michigan will beat OSU one of the next two (or three) seasons - assuming Pryor is there for his senior year.

Why don't you name the stake of the wager...

[ironhide]

No doubt about it. Tressel has been exposed. He is so stuck to his fundamentals that he cannot rise above them. Jimmy boy, if the run isn't working, PASS! If the QB can't get time, move the pocket! And for the love of gorgeous boobs DON'T ask a freshman QB who is in over his head to do more when he CAN'T do what you JUST asked him to!
And what about these great OSU athletes? OSU is not faster than any other team on the field and their backups are not better than any other teams. Michigan can beat them now. OSU is plain beat down!
Next year, OSU is positively going to suck. No returning talent and next to no returning stars except a cornerback and a defensive end, a running back and Pryor. Who is going to block? Who is going to catch passes? Who is the runner? WHO IS THE DEFENSE?
I like our chances to whip these guys next year. OSU will get clocked by USC even uglier than this year, and it is all down hill from there to the UM game. We will be waiting. UM in a romp next November. These buckeyes are clowns, and never again will I even capitalize tressel's name. Why show a chump respect?

[rickyleach]

When will the fire tressel website start up , i dont think tressy is the king of the hill anymore. Their are many grumblings going on in c/bus about the now famous cant win the big game tressel.. Theirs a great photo in the c/bus paper with tressel walking off the field with his head down and mrs tressy holding on to him for comfort , also another photo of james looserniteis crying about looosing the game , what a couple of cornballs those two are..

[The Michigan Man]

Some observations:

1) The tUOS NC of 2002 was a carryover from Cooper. The decline of Carr was just setting in - if Cooper would have hung around a few years longer, he possibly would have had success against Michigan

2) Tressel is not an elite coach. His timing coincided with a drastic decline in the quality of the Big-10. Yes, Michigan was a big part of that decline. Also JoePa started having losing seasons in the early 2000s, MSU was going through the revolving door of coaches, Iowa and Wisconsin were a bit above average and not much more. The Big-10 was 1-6 in bowl games this year - it may be at an all time low. Ruling the Big-10 isn't as difficult as it once was.

Tressel thrives in the Big-10 because Columbus happens to be in a decent football talent pool and he recruits mostly by 1-tank trips, not by plane. Swap Tressel out with Coach X, and Coach X, with the talent that falls in his lap every year, will win a lot of Big-10 games.

3) Enough about tUOS' fearsome defense. Looking at the last 3 bowl games, no one is afraid of tUOS. Florida, LSU, and Texas were 1st down machines, regularly torched the secondary, and rarely got sacked.

4) Tressel is not a big game coach. There has been an absolute failure to adjust. Reminds me of a guy named Carr...

5) Pryor sure as hell better figure out how to fix his throwing mechanics, or he is going to be a major bust. He doesn't look like a kid who has developed a lot, despite starting what, 9-10 games. His only score in the big 3 games against USC, PSU, and Texas was as a WR. If that doesn't disturb the tUOS fanbase then they are in denial, big time. Any defense with above average speed is going to harass him and force him to throw.

Cleveland talk radio was lambasting tUOS today. They were calling for Heacocks firing, criticizing Pryor's decision making and his tendency to run out of bounds instead of getting a few more yards and the first down, and especially criticizing the defense. No one is calling him Senator Tressel anymore, the luster is wearing off of his sweatervest. 3 bowl games in a row? How many more can he afford to lose? Is just winning against Michigan and the Big-10 enough when he has top 5 talent every year? Hmm....

[ironhide]

Face it, Michigan man. The talent gap is rapidly closing. OSU is losing all their talent and what is coming up ain't so great.

[Mike Furley]

You guys can say what you want about Pryor, but his throwing will be much better next year.


Nut, don't be a fool. Pryor had seven week to improve his passing and it looked worse.

As for those people thinking OSU is falling to mediocre status, think again.
OSU will continue to be the class of the Big Ten for at least another 3 years.

[Inflames]

Some observations:

1) The tUOS NC of 2002 was a carryover from Cooper. The decline of Carr was just setting in - if Cooper would have hung around a few years longer, he possibly would have had success against Michigan

2) Tressel is not an elite coach. His timing coincided with a drastic decline in the quality of the Big-10. Yes, Michigan was a big part of that decline. Also JoePa started having losing seasons in the early 2000s, MSU was going through the revolving door of coaches, Iowa and Wisconsin were a bit above average and not much more. The Big-10 was 1-6 in bowl games this year - it may be at an all time low. Ruling the Big-10 isn't as difficult as it once was.

Tressel thrives in the Big-10 because Columbus happens to be in a decent football talent pool and he recruits mostly by 1-tank trips, not by plane. Swap Tressel out with Coach X, and Coach X, with the talent that falls in his lap every year, will win a lot of Big-10 games.

3) Enough about tUOS' fearsome defense. Looking at the last 3 bowl games, no one is afraid of tUOS. Florida, LSU, and Texas were 1st down machines, regularly torched the secondary, and rarely got sacked.

4) Tressel is not a big game coach. There has been an absolute failure to adjust. Reminds me of a guy named Carr...

5) Pryor sure as hell better figure out how to fix his throwing mechanics, or he is going to be a major bust. He doesn't look like a kid who has developed a lot, despite starting what, 9-10 games. His only score in the big 3 games against USC, PSU, and Texas was as a WR. If that doesn't disturb the tUOS fanbase then they are in denial, big time. Any defense with above average speed is going to harass him and force him to throw.

Cleveland talk radio was lambasting tUOS today. They were calling for Heacocks firing, criticizing Pryor's decision making and his tendency to run out of bounds instead of getting a few more yards and the first down, and especially criticizing the defense. No one is calling him Senator Tressel anymore, the luster is wearing off of his sweatervest. 3 bowl games in a row? How many more can he afford to lose? Is just winning against Michigan and the Big-10 enough when he has top 5 talent every year? Hmm....

Well stated and spot on MM!

[rickyleach]

i dont know if anyone watched this, but bob griese, jimmy johnson, and barry switzer all commented on how great of an athlete pryor is ,but said needs a alot of work on learning the proper qb techniques on footwork and throwing , not one said he was a great qb, lets face it ,in high school ,he was so much better then everyone else he never learned how to play the position like he should have , im not saying this kid wont be special. but he is a work in progress, you can tell by watching him ,he has a difficult time reading defenses especially against quality teams, he is only going to get better ,but in which way , athelete or qb

[NCBLUE]

oSU will continue to have success they just will not be able to compete against the elite of the elite. Tressel is very good recruiter and his teams are usually discplined, however the man makes 0.0 adjustments during the game. After they played USC, all the Trojans said it was simple, because the Buckeyes lined up and were predictable and did exactly what they were expected to do. Also after brief initail success Tressel's teams and wet the bed, curled up in the fetal position too many times on the National stage against top teams.

Still a very good coach but not an elite one.