Close but no cigar

[1OSUNUT]

The Buckeyes played their hearts out and took a team that many think (not me) was the best in the nation right down to the wire - but came up short again. Even though it was a heartbreaking loss I do see some positives that came out of the loss. For one - they showed up to play. Two - many underclassmen played a lot and made big contributions. Three - they held the powerful Texas offense to half the points they normally score.

They came within 20 seconds of beating the so called mighty Longhorns in what will become an instant classic. People who look for the Buckeyes to start a downward spiral will not be happy with what they saw last night. TP is going to become a real problem next year when he is passing better. The young guys on defense and offense when combined with the recruits of last year and this year - make for a very strong foundation. I'm sad for the team because they deserved better. Now the attention will turn to using the momentum gained by this games performance, improving on it and prepare for USC in The Shoe. Just like Michigan fans expect a much different squad next year - so do we. The new look Buckeyes will be bigger, faster and more talented then in years past. Im expecting big things in the next 2 or 3 years.

[BBA1994]

The Buckeyes played their hearts out and took a team that many think (not me) was the best in the nation right down to the wire - but came up short again. Even though it was a heartbreaking loss I do see some positives that came out of the loss. For one - they showed up to play. Two - many underclassmen played a lot and made big contributions. Three - they held the powerful Texas offense to half the points they normally score.

They came within 20 seconds of beating the so called mighty Longhorns in what will become an instant classic. People who look for the Buckeyes to start a downward spiral will not be happy with what they saw last night. TP is going to become a real problem next year when he is passing better. The young guys on defense and offense when combined with the recruits of last year and this year - make for a very strong foundation. I'm sad for the team because they deserved better. Now the attention will turn to using the momentum gained by this games performance, improving on it and prepare for USC in The Shoe. Just like Michigan fans expect a much different squad next year - so do we. The new look Buckeyes will be bigger, faster and more talented then in years past. Im expecting big things in the next 2 or 3 years.

You're such a d-bag. Tuos played the best game of their lives and Texas played like crap until the second half and tuos still couldn't win. Tressy is the worst big-game coach in the nation. Enjoy tressy's wanker in your mouth as it might not be available for too much longer. Discontent is rumbling through tuos nation.

[Buckeye Sweetie]

I'm not sure if OSU played their hearts out entirely. 4th quater I would agree but the dropped passes and the missed tackles were enough to give me a head ache. I'm excited to see TP develop more and hopefully he will. We need more reliable receivers and if Beanie stays Lord help that boy to stop stubbing his toes! Love the talent of this kid but he reminds me an awful lot of Tony Dorsett & the way he would be down from injuries. I don't think it was all Texas played like crap, I think our defense was pretty much all over McCoy. And please.........don't even get me started on the officiating. Final words. Close but no Salsa!! :D

[MaizenBlue]

Beanie should have left after last year, TP really does throw like a girl, and Texas is not an was not considered the best team in the country...except by Colt's hot girlfriend. Tressel blows it again....

[1OSUNUT]

Texas did beat Oklahoma on a neutral field - and they are playing for the NC. With that said I think Florida run the Sooners right out of the stadium. IMO - the best two teams right now are USC and Florida. I told people that Ohio State would match up better with Texas then any other top 5 team - and they did. They held Texas to 3 points at halftime - not bad. The hurry up did bother them and that led to mental breakdowns in coverage. I like the play of our youg guys and I'm sure working on TP's footwork and throwing will be priority #1 all off season.

[Blue In Ohio]

My hats off to the bucks for going toe to toe with a nonconference power like Texas. Atleast they showed up and played. In Lloyds last few seasons during the bowl loss drought michigan came painfully close to winning many games they could have won. It was a terrible feeling. Atleast this holiday season I was not made miserable by another woulda, coulda, shoulda bowl game loss. Not that 3-9 felt much better but it's been long enough now I feel better.

Not sure how you expect the Buckeyes to be better next year. You will have alot of new starters in many key positions including the loss of your best running back and many offensive lineman and best linebacker. If you win 9 it won't be because you are good but because the big ten stinks. USC in columbus next year posting a possible 50 point loss to the bucks at the horseshoe next year. Wonder if then they will come up with a sack tressel website we michigan fans can frequent.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

What game were you watching??? If i was a buckeye fan TP would really be worrying me right now. Everyone already knew he is a great runner, now everyone knows he cant pass for beans! give me a break if he wasnt mobile he wouldnt have DIII offers. He is at the end of his freshman season and cant throw anything but short passes, thats really bad! As a michigan fan I loved TP's performance last night, if beokman or whatever his name is started the entire game OSU wins imo.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

My hats off to the bucks for going toe to toe with a nonconference power like Texas. Atleast they showed up and played. In Lloyds last few seasons during the bowl loss drought michigan came painfully close to winning many games they could have won. It was a terrible feeling. Atleast this holiday season I was not made miserable by another woulda, coulda, shoulda bowl game loss. Not that 3-9 felt much better but it's been long enough now I feel better.

Not sure how you expect the Buckeyes to be better next year. You will have alot of new starters in many key positions including the loss of your best running back and many offensive lineman and best linebacker. If you win 9 it won't be because you are good but because the big ten stinks. USC in columbus next year posting a possible 50 point loss to the bucks at the horseshoe next year. Wonder if then they will come up with a sack tressel website we michigan fans can frequent.

come on, no michigan fan on here is that much of a loser... (staring at you Nut)

[blueisbetterthanred]

come on, no michigan fan on here is that much of a loser...

*points to RTB*

[rickyleach]

Bottom line ohio state fans have now come to the fact ,they are not high and mighty and have gone from were gonna win this and were gonna do that and no one can beat us because we have 20 returning starters back to i hope we dont get beat by much ,or atleast we didnt get blown out . How funny and pathetic they are.. Get used to it because next year wont be this good , ha ha ha ....

[1OSUNUT]

Actually next year will be very good. The Buckeyes will be bigger and stronger in many positions. The offensive line will be better,the defensive line will be better, linebackers will be even to this year, WR will be improved and TP will have a whole off season to work on his throwing. If you look at the teams Ohio State has lost to in the past three years - there is not one slug.
Florida, Illinois, LSU,USC,Penn State and Texas. Sure it would of been nice to win a few of those games but the Buckeyes have been to 7 BCS bowls and sit at 4-3. What you don't see Ohio State doing is losing to 1AA, MAC or lower level Big Ten teams.

Are the Buckeyes perfect - no. Would I like to see some imagination on offense and defense - Yes. But to think for a second Ohio State is going to be bad all of a sudden or start slipping just shows your lack of knowledge. Look at the roster and then look at the recruits last year and this year. Then tell me with a stright face that the Buckeyes are slipping. In fact Michigan is going to have a hard time catching Ohio State if the Buckeyes keep out recruiting them.

[BLEEDINGBLUE]

In fact Michigan is going to have a hard time catching Ohio State if the Buckeyes keep out recruiting them.

Very True, after all, I'm sick of watching ND win the National Championship with there #1 recruiting class year after year!

[1OSUNUT]

Much different caliber of player going to Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Texas and others then that of ND.

[BLEEDINGBLUE]

Much different caliber of player going to Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Texas and others then that of ND.

Honestly nut, we have BS'ed a bit back and forth but do you think it is safe to say that ND is now getting the caliber player that go to the Utah's Hawaii's and Boises of CFB and not the Powerhouses in the Big 10, Pac 10 Sec, etc.?

[amazinblue]

Actually next year will be very good. The Buckeyes will be bigger and stronger in many positions. The offensive line will be better,the defensive line will be better, linebackers will be even to this year, WR will be improved and TP will have a whole off season to work on his throwing. If you look at the teams Ohio State has lost to in the past three years - there is not one slug.
Florida, Illinois, LSU,USC,Penn State and Texas. Sure it would of been nice to win a few of those games but the Buckeyes have been to 7 BCS bowls and sit at 4-3. What you don't see Ohio State doing is losing to 1AA, MAC or lower level Big Ten teams.

Are the Buckeyes perfect - no. Would I like to see some imagination on offense and defense - Yes. But to think for a second Ohio State is going to be bad all of a sudden or start slipping just shows your lack of knowledge. Look at the roster and then look at the recruits last year and this year. Then tell me with a stright face that the Buckeyes are slipping. In fact Michigan is going to have a hard time catching Ohio State if the Buckeyes keep out recruiting them.

Nut,

In your first paragraph, you seem to infer that OSU's D is "fine" and that the focus needs to be on the O. My question is this - you had 20 seniors returning on this year's team - where do you see such great improvement next year. No doubt, OSU's got a solid team - but, exceptional? I don't think so. OSU played their hearts out last night, and (unfortunately - since I'm a Big 10 homer) came up short.

I think that OSU needs to focus on the D - and be able to execute schemes that will stop very powerful and diverse offenses. I believe that unless a new DC steps in, the case will be the same. OSU will put up similar points next season, perhaps a few more against lesser quality opponents, but the Buckeyes will struggle against USC and upper echelon teams (which I hope Michigan returns to) next season.

[byebyelloyd]

The Buckeyes played their hearts out and took a team that many think (not me) was the best in the nation right down to the wire - but came up short again. Even though it was a heartbreaking loss I do see some positives that came out of the loss. For one - they showed up to play. Two - many underclassmen played a lot and made big contributions. Three - they held the powerful Texas offense to half the points they normally score.

They came within 20 seconds of beating the so called mighty Longhorns in what will become an instant classic. People who look for the Buckeyes to start a downward spiral will not be happy with what they saw last night. TP is going to become a real problem next year when he is passing better. The young guys on defense and offense when combined with the recruits of last year and this year - make for a very strong foundation. I'm sad for the team because they deserved better. Now the attention will turn to using the momentum gained by this games performance, improving on it and prepare for USC in The Shoe. Just like Michigan fans expect a much different squad next year - so do we. The new look Buckeyes will be bigger, faster and more talented then in years past. Im expecting big things in the next 2 or 3 years.

the buckeyes sucked serious donkey nuts and got beat by a team whose QB was playing horrible. face up and come back to reality pussy.

[byebyelloyd]

Actually next year will be very good. The Buckeyes will be bigger and stronger in many positions. The offensive line will be better,the defensive line will be better, linebackers will be even to this year, WR will be improved and TP will have a whole off season to work on his throwing. If you look at the teams Ohio State has lost to in the past three years - there is not one slug.
Florida, Illinois, LSU,USC,Penn State and Texas. Sure it would of been nice to win a few of those games but the Buckeyes have been to 7 BCS bowls and sit at 4-3. What you don't see Ohio State doing is losing to 1AA, MAC or lower level Big Ten teams.

Are the Buckeyes perfect - no. Would I like to see some imagination on offense and defense - Yes. But to think for a second Ohio State is going to be bad all of a sudden or start slipping just shows your lack of knowledge. Look at the roster and then look at the recruits last year and this year. Then tell me with a stright face that the Buckeyes are slipping. In fact Michigan is going to have a hard time catching Ohio State if the Buckeyes keep out recruiting them.

ohio state is not out recruiting anyone and with their complete inability to stop spread offenses, they're headed down, recruits are taking notice of their ineffectiveness. lloyd tressel is costing their program now, dearly.

[1OSUNUT]

They landed Sabino last year as well. He was the #1 LB in the nation. When you combine that with Rose, Gibson, Homan, Rolle, Chekwa,Coleman,Hines, Larimore,Moeller,Oliver,Russell,Spitler,Washington , Worthington and Wilson on the defensive side of the ball - thats a good foundation. That does not even include this years recruit Dorian Bell (PA) who many think is the #1 LB this year. They also have Simon and Fellows coming in for defensive line depth this year.

The offensive side of the ball starts with a group of highly rated offensive linemen from last years class. Many of the kids in last years offensive line class were rated #1 nationally at their position. The plan is to add Hall to that mix as well. You already know about Pryor. He may need help passing (which he will get) but he is special and will only get better. Beanie is still hinting at coming back. Boom Herron has been coming out of his shell of late and could be a very good back. They also landed Berry (Fla) in this years class for insurance. The WR's are going to be very much like what you see in the PAC 10 and Big 12 - big and fast. Posey and Thomas got valuable playing time this year as did Sazenbacher. They also have 6'5 230 Jake Stoneburner ready for next year. Brian Hartline is leaning toward coming back as well. We also have Carter (Fla) coming in this year and if he is anything like his Dad - watch out. Ray Small also will be back next year returning kick and punts.

I would say the glass is half full and not half empty like many of you wish to believe. The Buckeyes are getting bigger and stronger - you guys just don't know it or have not been paying close attention to the last few recruiting classes.

[The Michigan Man]

I would say the glass is half full and not half empty like many of you wish to believe. The Buckeyes are getting bigger and stronger - you guys just don't know it or have not been paying close attention to the last few recruiting classes.

Bigger and stronger doesn't cut it anymore - after the last 3 bowl games and the USC game, you should be more worried about speed, especially on defense. There is no reason that Cosby should be lighting up your secondary like he did yesterday.

Also, NCs are won by QBs like Tebow, Leinert, etc. Vince Young was an aberration, and if you think that Pryor is going to lead you to the promised land with his feet alone your are kidding yourself. I'll take Colt McCoy any day over the 1-dimensional Pryor...

[ironhide]

This guy is actually cool because he posts wasted on great pot. Were you get that from?
What the f- you callin' a great foundation of players for OSU? You rattle off a number of recruits from the OVER RANKED state of Ohio who have NO experience and expect us to believe they are going to be great?
You are not going to replace the whole team next year and expect good results. Just as you said we would suck this year because of too many question marks, so does the same apply to OSU.
We no longer fear your team. No longer. Why should we? OSU is proven vulnerable, proven now to be on the decline. Why should we be impressed anymore?
OSU next loss is to USC. This is going to be very ugly next year, in front of the home town crowd. Sanchez will come back, just to torture you!
Oh, it sucks to be a buck, right now!

[cartyboi]

Didn't Gibson get 3 flags on himself alone... 2 of them 15 yarders?

Great foundation..

[1OSUNUT]

Ironhide,

After the ass kicking you got this year - you should fear us. We had to replace 80% of our offense last year - and we ended up in the NC game. We lost Hawk and a bunch of other seniors the year before - we ended up in the NC game. If you think for one moment that TP is not going to improve or become a better passer - your crazy. The kid is a true F'in freshman. Lets see how well your freshman QB plays next year and how many mistakes he makes. As for the talent not being in Columbus - wishful thinking. Not many coaches get underclassmen ready to play football right away better then Tressel. The Buckeyes will not miss a beat next year and WILL waltz into AA and kick your ass - AGAIN.

[Buckeye Sweetie]

Didn't Gibson get 3 flags on himself alone... 2 of them 15 yarders?

Great foundation..

I only remember 2 & 1 of those shouldn't have been called. The ref didn't get a clear view of that hit since he was on the other side of McCoy and didn't see that his arms wrapped around the shoulders & not the head/neck area. Officiating was shitty in this game. That 15 yards cost the Bucks that game imo, it would have been 4th & long.

[BLEEDINGBLUE]

The Buckeyes will not miss a beat next year

Funny Nut, I have been hearing that for a few years now and it seems like you guys keep missing that NC Beat.

[Mich Fan in Cbus]

Funny Nut, I have been hearing that for a few years now and it seems like you guys keep missing that NC Beat.

Or any kind of big win beat..

the beat goes on for tOSU
USC
Flordia
SEC for that matter
Texas
more to come I am sure.. what do you think that score will be when USC comes to the flipflop next year.. the boo birds will be out in force.. i assure you..

[1OSUNUT]

I did not predict NC - but they will contend for the Big Ten title next year and whip up on Michigan - again. This time they will beat RR in his own backyard.

[Inflames]

I hope U of M was watching what the no huddle was doing to uos's defense. They (uos) could barely get their players back on the right side of the ball.

Going back to what someone said earlier I would be very concerned about Pryor. If I were Boeckman I would be pretty damn bitter being benched for that guy. I said it on another thread and still believe if Boeckman starts I think uso wins this game....JMO.

[cartyboi]

I only remember 2 & 1 of those shouldn't have been called. The ref didn't get a clear view of that hit since he was on the other side of McCoy and didn't see that his arms wrapped around the shoulders & not the head/neck area. Officiating was shitty in this game. That 15 yards cost the Bucks that game imo, it would have been 4th & long.

I agree with the 2nd roughing penalty being bad. But he also got called on an offsides when he couldn't get lined up in time and colt got the play off and threw a touchdown pass. That was his third.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

Nut maybe you should spend time at some OSU boards like your supposed to, i dropped by one after the game and very few were as biased and blind as you are. I guess denial is the first sign of a problem.

[Todd]

I only remember 2 & 1 of those shouldn't have been called. The ref didn't get a clear view of that hit since he was on the other side of McCoy and didn't see that his arms wrapped around the shoulders & not the head/neck area. Officiating was shitty in this game. That 15 yards cost the Bucks that game imo, it would have been 4th & long.

Ah yes...I remember that play. The irony is...that's the same thing Michigan fans were saying after the ohio state game 2 years ago with the Crable hit on Troy Smith going out of bounds. Michigan lost by 3. Sound familiar???

[rickyleach]

1osunut ,what the hell are you talkin about, havent you learned by now that it is more than winning the big10 title, the big picture is winning bowl games ,beating top quality teams ,being able to compete against teams from the big12 or sec, ,outside of winning the big10 which by all accounts on a national level is nothing great , your coach ,school and idiot fans havent done sshit, your great coach has lost the last 3 bcs games , your coach has also lost the last 5 games to top 10 teams and last but not least your coach and team have gotten beat in the last 4 big games they have played, and remember ,because you said it before the 2008 season , we are loaded and should go 12 -0 or 11-1 and have a shot at the title, i guess you ment the big10 title ,which by the way you backed into that, so i wouldnt get your panties all wet over your 2009 team, and yes pryor is going to get better , but ,the rest of the team is good but shaky, and i wouldnt put my apples on your young o line either, shugert and adams have had shoulder surgery and w/those type of injurys at their position ,,those guys might not pan out.. and boom heron is a product of the ohio state hype machine because he is a average back , i guess pryors gonna have to do it all by himself isnt he...

[The Michigan Man]

Ironhide,

After the ass kicking you got this year - you should fear us. We had to replace 80% of our offense last year - and we ended up in the NC game. We lost Hawk and a bunch of other seniors the year before - we ended up in the NC game. If you think for one moment that TP is not going to improve or become a better passer - your crazy. The kid is a true F'in freshman. Lets see how well your freshman QB plays next year and how many mistakes he makes. As for the talent not being in Columbus - wishful thinking. Not many coaches get underclassmen ready to play football right away better then Tressel. The Buckeyes will not miss a beat next year and WILL waltz into AA and kick your ass - AGAIN.

If every answer to your "reloaded" "stacked" "elite" program losing 3 bowl games in a row inexexplicably includes bragging about beating the 3-9 Michigan team this year, that is called "denial" and "sublimation". If you can't coherently look at your program, which recruits in the top 5 but cannot beat a top 10 team, you'll continue to be the most deluded fans in college sports...

As far as JT getting underclassmen ready to play football, what the f*ck does that matter when that readiness does not include winning?

tUOS will reflect on these years in a similar manner that the Buffalo Bills reflect on the early 90's. WTF? This era will pass, and you'll go back to being Michigan's whipping boys again, with only a Cooper constructed 2002 NC and a bunch of beatings of a historically low Michigan program to show for it. So sad...

[1OSUNUT]

Michigan Man:

We don't always see eye to eye - but it's GREAT to have you back. Has Ohio State won the BIG games the last 3 years (other then the 06 Michigan game) - No. But to say Ohio State is not a good program os flat out not true - and I think you know that. Look around the college landscape and show me a team that wins all the games they are supposed to. USC loses to a weak ass team every year. LSU had a horrible year after winning the NC. Florida lost to Ole Miss. Texas lost to Texas Tech. Alabama lost to Utah. Oklahoma has crapped the bed in how many stright bowl games. The Buckeyes may have had their trouble the last three years with the elite of the elite - but they are not by any means weak or slipping. Ohio State will field a solid team under Tressel every year. We lose as many or more players to the NFL as anybody and never seem to miss a beat.

Do we lose to 1AA schools - NO. Do we lose to MAC schools - No. Do we lose to lower level Big 10 schools - NO. We win the games that we are supposed to and then we face either the top team or one of the top teams in the nation in our bowl game. To be the best you have to play against the best. I just hope the Bucks are learning something from these games. They at least showed up Monday which I consider a step in the right direction. Look at our losses since 06. Florida (NC), Illinois (Rose Bowl), LSU (NC), USC (Rose Bowl), Penn State (Rose Bowl), Texas. I don't know many teams that would beat all of those teams.

Are the Buckeyes perfect - God No. Would I like to see a new DC and OC - YES. But the Buckeyes are flat out loaded with very good and talented young players. I know you follow the recruiting - look at the class we had last year and what we have coming in this year. We will be bigger, stronger and most importantly faster then ever before. Will the Bucks contend for a NC next year - MAYBE (if Beanie returns). Will they contend for the Big Ten title - ABSOLUTLY. If Woody and Bo taught you anything that is goal #1. Win your conference and beat your rival. In doing that Tressel is very very good.

[byebyelloyd]

I did not predict NC - but they will contend for the Big Ten title next year and whip up on Michigan - again. This time they will beat RR in his own backyard.

it'll be about 3-4 years before tressel comes close to beating rich again, the playbook is learned, players experienced. the spread is like the SEC to ohio state. just do everyone a favor pussy, don't run away like the little bitch ass you are when it happens.

[byebyelloyd]

Michigan Man:

We don't always see eye to eye - but it's GREAT to have you back. Has Ohio State won the BIG games the last 3 years (other then the 06 Michigan game) - No. But to say Ohio State is not a good program os flat out not true - and I think you know that. Look around the college landscape and show me a team that wins all the games they are supposed to. USC loses to a weak ass team every year. LSU had a horrible year after winning the NC. Florida lost to Ole Miss. Texas lost to Texas Tech. Alabama lost to Utah. Oklahoma has crapped the bed in how many stright bowl games. The Buckeyes may have had their trouble the last three years with the elite of the elite - but they are not by any means weak or slipping. Ohio State will field a solid team under Tressel every year. We lose as many or more players to the NFL as anybody and never seem to miss a beat.

Do we lose to 1AA schools - NO. Do we lose to MAC schools - No. Do we lose to lower level Big 10 schools - NO. We win the games that we are supposed to and then we face either the top team or one of the top teams in the nation in our bowl game. To be the best you have to play against the best. I just hope the Bucks are learning something from these games. They at least showed up Monday which I consider a step in the right direction. Look at our losses since 06. Florida (NC), Illinois (Rose Bowl), LSU (NC), USC (Rose Bowl), Penn State (Rose Bowl), Texas. I don't know many teams that would beat all of those teams.

Are the Buckeyes perfect - God No. Would I like to see a new DC and OC - YES. But the Buckeyes are flat out loaded with very good and talented young players. I know you follow the recruiting - look at the class we had last year and what we have coming in this year. We will be bigger, stronger and most importantly faster then ever before. Will the Bucks contend for a NC next year - MAYBE (if Beanie returns). Will they contend for the Big Ten title - ABSOLUTLY. If Woody and Bo taught you anything that is goal #1. Win your conference and beat your rival. In doing that Tressel is very very good.
what the fuck could they possibly be learning. they blow goat testicles. the same game plan that fails is the same plan he brings to every game. he's a fucking joke like his fans. carr had the recruits, the record, the championship, now he's gone, tressel is on the SAME PATH, jackass. but then you'll see why michigan hired rodriguez in ann arbor this year. i told you year 2 was the year you didn't want to see and now you get to watch your "superior recruits" get hoe handled by superior coaching and plays. until then we can both agree that you're a whiny pussy bitch and still have nice conversations like we do.

[byebyelloyd]

If every answer to your "reloaded" "stacked" "elite" program losing 3 bowl games in a row inexexplicably includes bragging about beating the 3-9 Michigan team this year, that is called "denial" and "sublimation". If you can't coherently look at your program, which recruits in the top 5 but cannot beat a top 10 team, you'll continue to be the most deluded fans in college sports...

As far as JT getting underclassmen ready to play football, what the f*ck does that matter when that readiness does not include winning?

tUOS will reflect on these years in a similar manner that the Buffalo Bills reflect on the early 90's. WTF? This era will pass, and you'll go back to being Michigan's whipping boys again, with only a Cooper constructed 2002 NC and a bunch of beatings of a historically low Michigan program to show for it. So sad...

unfortunately with tressel exposed and his playbook useless, ohio state in decline and michigan back at the top will still make for a boring big ten.

[ironhide]

But he is delusional and full of crap anyways. He thinks Tressel can just reload the whole team based on his "great recruits." He will soon learn.....

[1OSUNUT]

No you guys are going to turn everything around in one year with a freshman QB and a lousy defense. You guys make it sound like everybody is going to stay put and only Michigan is going to improve. The truth is that Michigan has a lot of holes and will have less experience then Ohio State at many positions. Like always you guys talk big in the off season and then crap the bed. Two years ago it was English this, Henne,Hart and Long that - nothing. Last year it was - how you going to stop RR, McGUffie this, defense will get us by till offense improves that - you had the worst season in Michigan history. Next year Michigan will be a 5 win or less team. Start working on your excuses.

[blueisbetterthanred]

Next year Michigan will be a 5 win or less team. Start working on your excuses.

I'll take that bet. The winner gets to pick the signature the loser has to use for one month. Sound good?

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

No you guys are going to turn everything around in one year with a freshman QB and a lousy defense. You guys make it sound like everybody is going to stay put and only Michigan is going to improve. The truth is that Michigan has a lot of holes and will have less experience then Ohio State at many positions. Like always you guys talk big in the off season and then crap the bed. Two years ago it was English this, Henne,Hart and Long that - nothing. Last year it was - how you going to stop RR, McGUffie this, defense will get us by till offense improves that - you had the worst season in Michigan history. Next year Michigan will be a 5 win or less team. Start working on your excuses.

Atleast we are coming up with an innovative coach that has won everywhere he has been, you on the other hand are on the decline with a coach everyone has figured out. you may be better than us the next two years but after that tressel will be gone and your gonna be starting all over again wait and see. and for the love of god come up with a new arguement your such a broken record.

[1OSUNUT]

Atleast we are coming up with an innovative coach that has won everywhere he has been, you on the other hand are on the decline with a coach everyone has figured out. you may be better than us the next two years but after that tressel will be gone and your gonna be starting all over again wait and see. and for the love of god come up with a new arguement your such a broken record.

That is where you guys are wrong - what has RR won ? How many NC does he have ? What is his record against his rival ? It's funny how RR's record in the Big East got better when Virgina Tech and Miami left. RR is still greatly unproven. He had a few good years because of Slayton and White. He has yet to prove he can win without a superstar at QB. Last year was a perfect example.

[blueisbetterthanred]

RR has PROVEN he can take good talent and make them play above their level, the exact opposite of carr, who consistently had people playing below their level.

So with a top 10 recruiting class, it's hard to see why we wouldn't be excited about what he brings to the table.

[gator]

I must have missed something; I thought this thread was "Close but no cigar" not "Rape a 1OSUNUT.":D I've laughed my a$$ off through half of this thread. 1OSUNUT, I think tressel will continue to field a decent team, but I also find it hard to believe you will replace that many seniors and have a better season than this year. If you do, I think it reflects terribly on the Big10, unless you beat USC.

[eyesoftexas]

I must have missed something; I thought this thread was "Close but no cigar" not "Rape a 1OSUNUT.":D I've laughed my a$$ off through half of this thread. 1OSUNUT, I think tressel will continue to field a decent team, but I also find it hard to believe you will replace that many seniors and have a better season than this year. If you do, I think it reflects terribly on the Big10, unless you beat USC.

Who cares about the Big 10 anymore? At least TOSU is playing USC next year and not the Citadel. Is Florida going to replace Tebow? No. He's a monster back that cannot be replaced, either next year or anytime. Pryor will get better, so will Michigan. I remember when FSU/Miami looked like they would be a lock forever. Florida will have some more lean years like it had in 2007. Maybe it will start tonight. Then YOU can feel like the Buffalo Bills for a change.

[rickyleach]

did someone say that 1osunut got raped, oh thats right ,my mistake it has been thee university of ohio state that continues to get raped, in fact on a national stage they keep getting rearended, and now that beenie is gone , let the fun begin, one thing wont change though tressel will still have his head up his aasssss

[NCBLUE]

I think oSU continues to recruit well and will reload but losing that many seniors will have to mean a step down for them next season. I agree that as Pryor gets better he will be tough. IF he ever develops to be a decent passer he should be in the heisman talk.

Even though oSU played better than I expected against Texas they still lost and continue to get beaten by the top teams on a national stage...that has to bother the buckeye nation.

The program may or may not be in decline but if they are not moving forward & improving then they will get passed by...passed by the elite teams of college football each year.

[wolverine]

The Buckeyes played their hearts out and took a team that many think (not me) was the best in the nation right down to the wire - but came up short again. Even though it was a heartbreaking loss I do see some positives that came out of the loss. For one - they showed up to play. Two - many underclassmen played a lot and made big contributions. Three - they held the powerful Texas offense to half the points they normally score.

They came within 20 seconds of beating the so called mighty Longhorns in what will become an instant classic. People who look for the Buckeyes to start a downward spiral will not be happy with what they saw last night. TP is going to become a real problem next year when he is passing better. The young guys on defense and offense when combined with the recruits of last year and this year - make for a very strong foundation. I'm sad for the team because they deserved better. Now the attention will turn to using the momentum gained by this games performance, improving on it and prepare for USC in The Shoe. Just like Michigan fans expect a much different squad next year - so do we. The new look Buckeyes will be bigger, faster and more talented then in years past. Im expecting big things in the next 2 or 3 years.


funny how OUS fans take a loss and turn it into a good thang

while Michigan loses to texas in the rose on the last play...and Osu fans say its just another loss for UM....yea yea yea....the loss to teaxas for Osu is just another

[NCBLUE]

I guess when the buckeyes keep losing on the big boy stage and losing in horrible fashion makes buckeye nation start looking for "moral" victories.

They did play better than I expected but in the end it still goes down as an "L".

By the way Michigan's game with Texas was the definition of a classic, the last Fiesta bowl was an exciting game but I would not quite put it in the classic category. (close though)