NorCal BANNED?!?!?!

[GoBlue21]

Am I reading this correctly?

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/bwoods21/Banned1.jpg

[rickyleach]

Am I reading this correctly?

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/bwoods21/Banned1.jpg

and he should be, i hope its true and this is way overdue

[tpilews]

He's built up enough infractions to warrant a week long ban. Plus, his recent posts have been awful. He was asking for it.

[rickyleach]

He's built up enough infractions to warrant a week long ban. Plus, his recent posts have been awful. He was asking for it.

thank you thats a start..

[GoBlue21]

He's built up enough infractions to warrant a week long ban. Plus, his recent posts have been awful. He was asking for it.

Only a week long ban? DAMN IT!

He provides NOTHING to this forum, honestly! I just need to be logged on at all times, I find myself slipping when I just browse because he's not on the 'ignore list' if I'm not logged on.

[tpilews]

Only a week long ban? DAMN IT!

He provides NOTHING to this forum, honestly! I just need to be logged on at all times, I find myself slipping when I just browse because he's not on the 'ignore list' if I'm not logged on.

He's certainly earned longer than that. If he doesn't learn his lesson, he'll be on another week long break when he gets back.

[Wolvrin704]

I applaud you guys on banning him but honestly he earned it a long time ago and has since earned a perma-ban. But its a start.

[NorCal Buckeye]

He's certainly earned longer than that. If he doesn't learn his lesson, he'll be on another week long break when he gets back.

Oh, boo hoo.

Like I said before, you guys like to dish it out but it's Kleenex time when you get it back. I've been astonished that Michigan fans of all people can't take a little bit of smack talk and banter from the few Bucknuts that post on here. Hell, you've even put muzzles on your own people. They can't even call it the way they see it? Everyone has to be politically correct? If the conversation gets any more dainty you would think you were dropping in on a ladies tea party, not a CFB forum.

The censors and crybabies have gutted and castrated this forum. It has become a shell of it's former self. Too bad. It was alot more fun when people were free to let it fly.

Oh well, it's not going to change the fact that Ohio State is going to blow your asses off the field in Columbus this year. Go Buckeyes!:D

[1OSUNUT]

Hello and Goodbye.

Welcome back - see you in five days.

[tpilews]

Oh, boo hoo.

Like I said before, you guys like to dish it out but it's Kleenex time when you get it back. I've been astonished that Michigan fans of all people can't take a little bit of smack talk and banter from the few Bucknuts that post on here. Hell, you've even put muzzles on your own people. They can't even call it the way they see it? Everyone has to be politically correct? If the conversation gets any more dainty you would think you were dropping in on a ladies tea party, not a CFB forum.

The censors and crybabies have gutted and castrated this forum. It has become a shell of it's former self. Too bad. It was alot more fun when people were free to let it fly.

Oh well, it's not going to change the fact that Ohio State is going to blow your asses off the field in Columbus this year. Go Buckeyes!:D

Welcome back, I see you've learned your lesson. Seems to me that the only people that were happy before were the ones doing the trolling. There was outcry for it to be stopped. Who, of my people, have I muzzled? The only person that is currently banned is...... wait for it.................... an osu troll, Shirc. He'll be back in 62 days, maybe.

The point of giving you a week off was because you have over 25 infraction built up; this was long time coming. And, that particular day, you were being more trolly mctrollerson than your usual self. Others have found a way to be a productive member of the board without resulting to blatant trolling, I suggest you take a page out of their books.

[1OSUNUT]

is there any way to get infractions removed for good behavior ? :)

[rickyleach]

if norcal is asking to be banned for life , then why not award him with his pink slip , why continue to play games , he needs a permanent vacation, he will probably come back as someone else anyway ,maybe use his husbands email addresss and get back on.

[tpilews]

is there any way to get infractions removed for good behavior ? :)

Infractions expire over time. I've asked the editor repeatedly if we could display the amount of infractions so that everyone is aware that they are happening.

[Gobluerebirth]

Infractions expire over time. I've asked the editor repeatedly if we could display the amount of infractions so that everyone is aware that they are happening.
Do I have infractions?

[rickyleach]

Infractions expire over time. I've asked the editor repeatedly if we could display the amount of infractions so that everyone is aware that they are happening.

i think you should post them , i mean what is there to hide , i have a few myself and probably should have a few more, see if the editor will let you post them..

[tpilews]

i think you should post them , i mean what is there to hide , i have a few myself and probably should have a few more, see if the editor will let you post them..

I can't. The editor needs to enable them. I don't have access to any of that.

[tpilews]

Do I have infractions?

Nope, 0 active/ 0 total

[Gobluerebirth]

Nope, 0 active/ 0 total
I'm a nice guy.

[RADRACING]

It's not like it isn't easy as pie to change the settings and login, depending how the admin set up the ban. I always get a chuckle when people think they can ban people from a public forum.

[tpilews]

It's not like it isn't easy as pie to change the settings and login, depending how the admin set up the ban. I always get a chuckle when people think they can ban people from a public forum.

Did you want to test out your theory?

[bluefan]

It's not like it isn't easy as pie to change the settings and login, depending how the admin set up the ban. I always get a chuckle when people think they can ban people from a public forum.

Public forum? Since when is this a public forum?

[NorCal Buckeye]

What the heck is a "tpilews" ....??? How long has he been on this site ....a week ???:cool:[/SIZE]?????

TPILEWS loosely translated equals "TP I lose", a slam on our stud QB who has only lost four games in his first two (freshman and sophmore) years, with three of those losses of course being tight games against three of the best programs in the country and the other a monumental upset when our O line was banged up at Purdue.

As for TPILEWS being a "he", I'm wouldn't swear to that. He might actually be a lady wolverine.

[rickyleach]

Like we dont know it you moron... And who cares.

[rickyleach]

Stud qb who cant pass and has only lost 4 games because tressel has put his training wheels on because he doesnt trust him and knows he will fucc things up , is that the guy you are talkin about dip shhit...

[1OSUNUT]

Yeah - the guy who was FOTY, won two BT titles and has been to two BCS games. Oh, and by the way he has beat you both years.

I guess you rather have RR who let's his QB go out there and Fucc things up.

[Wolvrin704]

I guess you rather have RR who let's his QB go out there and Fucc things up.

Yeah because you know RR has all-pro caliber QB's sitting on the bench and decided to screw things up by putting in freshmen.

[1OSUNUT]

Yeah because you know RR has all-pro caliber QB's sitting on the bench and decided to screw things up by putting in freshmen.

There is nothing wrong with making the playbook smaller and having the QB run plays that he can execute without mistakes. Remember it was RR that said he could adapt his system to the players he had - not us. He failed to put the QB's he had the last two years in the best position to suceed. The system that RR runs does not feature a power running game or anything else that would take pressure away from the QB. In his system the QB is forced to make play after play and good read after good read. I give Tressel credit for bringing Pryor along slowly - because we won a lot of games and a few championships in the process. Now his confidence is not shaken and he is 100% ready to break out and spread his wings.

[Wolvrin704]

There is nothing wrong with making the playbook smaller and having the QB run plays that he can execute without mistakes. Remember it was RR that said he could adapt his system to the players he had - not us. He failed to put the QB's he had the last two years in the best position to suceed. The system that RR runs does not feature a power running game or anything else that would take pressure away from the QB. In his system the QB is forced to make play after play and good read after good read. I give Tressel credit for bringing Pryor along slowly - because we won a lot of games and a few championships in the process. Now his confidence is not shaken and he is 100% ready to break out and spread his wings.

Ok, I can agree that making the playbook smaller may have helped but to be honest I already thought was failry simpliefied especially the first year. With so much inexperience I don't see how incorporating the old system would have helped as they would have had to learn anyways. I still and always say that most of UM's trouble the last 2 years had to do with OL play as much if not more than anything else. There was an inability to get any type of running game to take pressure off the QB due to an inability to block. Again I say that was the biggest disservice Coach Carr performed in not leaving a stocked OL.

JT was allowed to bring TP along slowly because he has a very experienced team and his frshman year an all B10 QB sitting on the bench. It helps to have options like that. Comparing what happened with TP to what has happened with UM's QB is definetly a case of comparing apples and ranges.

[rickyleach]

Yeah - the guy who was FOTY, won two BT titles and has been to two BCS games. Oh, and by the way he has beat you both years.

I guess you rather have RR who let's his QB go out there and Fucc things up.

nut , you mean the guy who beat the worst michgan teams in the last 50 years, is that the guy you think is so great . get a grip tiger that is nothing to toot your horn about, you people from c/bus hope and pray your fucc up project is what scouts and rivals said he would be 3 years ago, we both nop its a crap shoot with him , we will soon find out .

[amazinblue]

I still and always say that most of UM's trouble the last 2 years had to do with OL play as much if not more than anything else. There was an inability to get any type of running game to take pressure off the QB due to an inability to block. Again I say that was the biggest disservice Coach Carr performed in not leaving a stocked OL.

704,

I agree the OL gets a lot of attention - and, candidly, the injury that hurt the most last year on the entire team - IMO - was Molk. I believe the OL gave it their best - we just didn't have the depth and experience there - which does seem to be changing. If the entire OL stays healthy this year - I believe most of the fans will be pleased with what they see - and the record will reflect that.

[1OSUNUT]

Ricky -

Whatever. He is still better and more proven then any QB on your roster. I said it before and I will say it again - if RR had gotten his wish and landed TP the other bums you have would never sniff the field. With the exception of winning a NC there is not much more TP could of done in his first two years. I happen to think he has been very sucessful while learning on the job. The guys you have are working hard in an effort just to accomplish what TP has already done.

[rickyleach]

nut , why whatever , t pryor has played with a team that is so much better then what tate and d rob have been on you really cant compare, from all the hype this young man recieved in and during his recruiting process i would say he isnt even close to where he should be, again he has played on some pretty darn good teams ,and our guys havent, t pryor gets his 3 rd chance this season ,so we will see, say what you want and i know you will ,the kid doesnt throw the ball that great and still has question mark footwork and still has a problem taking a snap from center ,rolling back standing in the pocket and reading defenses to make good quarterback dicisions, you cant say im wrong in this , i live in c/bus and hear it every single day from ,yes believe it or not my very good buckeye friends who live and breath ohio state and they say the very same thing, your season comes down to your boy , 10 and 2 is failure for that team ,anything less then playing in the game is failure for that team, and you people including my friends all say this is the year for pryor to prove himself and most of them are not sold yet on him.

[1OSUNUT]

How is two BT championships, two wins over Michigan, a FOTY award and a 1 and 1 record in BCS bowls - not living up to the hype. Jimmy Clausen and Matt Barkley both came into college with more hype then TP - what have they done. Did Jimmy Clausen do any of the things TP has done in his 3 years at ND ? How was Matt Barkleys freshman season compared tp TP's. He has done all of this while learning how tp lay QB. His footwork is getting better and so is his ability to read defenses and his throwing motion. He will be a monster this year - and I think that scares you. He played the whole second half of the season with a knee that needed surgery - yet you guys make excuses for Tate saying he was hurt. I have not heard a thing about Tate's shoulder since the season ended - frankly I think he was just playing poorly and not hurt. He is a bit of a drama queen anyway. Let's see if Tate can lead you to a BCS bowl or conference championship in his 4 years - let alone multiple.

[rickyleach]

How is two BT championships, two wins over Michigan, a FOTY award and a 1 and 1 record in BCS bowls - not living up to the hype. Jimmy Clausen and Matt Barkley both came into college with more hype then TP - what have they done. Did Jimmy Clausen do any of the things TP has done in his 3 years at ND ? How was Matt Barkleys freshman season compared tp TP's. He has done all of this while learning how tp lay QB. His footwork is getting better and so is his ability to read defenses and his throwing motion. He will be a monster this year - and I think that scares you. He played the whole second half of the season with a knee that needed surgery - yet you guys make excuses for Tate saying he was hurt. I have not heard a thing about Tate's shoulder since the season ended - frankly I think he was just playing poorly and not hurt. He is a bit of a drama queen anyway. Let's see if Tate can lead you to a BCS bowl or conference championship in his 4 years - let alone multiple.

no one player has come into college football with more hype then t, pryor , jimmy and matt are not even close to the circus pryor caused because of the great possibilitys he would bring, i cant see how you think those guys were close , pryor has not lived up to the hype and you know it , i wouldnt say 6 for 15 with 102 yards passing and maybe 63 yards rushing is sensational stuff , that is a typical t pryor saturday, most of his throws are hangtime up for grab passes, or dink passes for high percentage , post his stats game for game and lets see, more is less with pryor, and when tressel reeled him in and kept it simple he played better.

[1OSUNUT]

Really Clausen was not hyped ? I did not see TP show up in a stretch limo to announce what college he was going to go to - like Clausen did. What I saw was a kid who led his high school football and basketball teams to a state championship and wanted to make some visits before he made his choice. I had nothing wrong with it - but it seems you still do because he did not pick Michigan. It looks like he made the smart choice if you ask me. Two championships, two BCS bowls and two wins over Michigan sure look a lot better then the two seasons RR has mustered. TP will be getting Hiesman talk this year - that would not happen if he was at Michigan. Why would he go to a school that would just be happy making it to any bowl - let alone a BCS one.

It's not all about the stats Ricky - it's the attention and respect that a defense has to give TP. Why don't you ask some DC's what they think of TP and how many sleepless nights they have in the week before they play him. He was a beast when he did not know what he was doing and was only using the abilty God gave him. Now he is in his third year, the game has slowed down, he has guys around him off the previous years team and his mechanics are getting better. That in my eyes is going to make it very tough on teams that play Ohio State the next two years - including Michigan. What in your eyes would of had to happen the last two years for TP to reach what was expected of him ? How many freshman or sophmore QB's start and do what TP has done ? Tebow played as a freshman but was not the starter - he did not win a NC till he was a Junior. TP is way ahead of what others have been able to accomplish in just two years. Tate would kill to have one season like TP has had - and I'm guessing he will not do it once. Just remember that if TP was a Wolverine you would be bragging about how great he is and how great he will become - but because he dogged Michigan - you hate him. That is the ultimate sign of respect.

[rickyleach]

really its not all about the stats , i dont agree with that , you atleast need to have some sort of stat, show me his stats from 2009, he happens to play on a good team and from what i have seen ,hasnt been the deciding factor in many of your victories, i will say this though he was in the oregon game , of course oregon helped ohio state out by making critical unforced turnovers to make it easier for osu, he wasnt the deciding factor in the michigan win ,tate was ...and of course your defense. chad henne was a far better qb then pryor his first 2 years , and like you said its not about stats ,which includes wins and loses, pryor wont even be able to hold hennes jock strap when it comes to playing qb. , i dont hate the kid nut i just dont agree with you on how good of a player at qb he is. look if he were on michigans team and michigan was 7 and 5 or 8 and 4 those first 2 years and had all kinds of stats you would be the first one to post , yah but what has he won ,no big10 titles no bcs game and on and on, you guys have been tooting his horn for now going on 3 years and its time

[bighousemike84]

I have not heard a thing about Tate's shoulder since the season ended - frankly I think he was just playing poorly and not hurt.

For the record
http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/michigan-quarterback-tate-forcier-rehabbing-shoulder-injury-battling-staph-infection/


The shoulder injury Michigan quarterback Tate Forcier played through last season was a slightly torn right labrum, a person familiar with the injury said Friday.

Forcier was diagnosed with the injury when he underwent an MRI while home for Christmas break. He’s rehabbing the shoulder now and doesn’t need surgery, and he’s also recovering from a staph infection in his right knee, the person said.

[1OSUNUT]

Ricky -

I can give two shits about how good a QB or any player is in the pros - I'm a Buckeye fan. How does Henne or Long being a great pro help you Wolverine fans. Do you want to know how he is measured - how many times did you beat Ohio State. That is the legacy he will leave at Michigan - 0-4. Troy Smith may hold a clipboard his whole NFL career - but he was a great Buckeye QB that owned you guys. I much rather have a QB that wins games then one that hangs big numbers. The only thing that matters is that you get a W - and TP does that. He is a highly gifted QB that is just now getting the hang of college play - and that is scary. I have no doubt that TP will go 4-0 in his carreer against Michigan and may go to 4 BCS bowls - if that is failure, I will take a whole bunch of failures just like him. If you want to talk about failure - how about 3 and 5 wins the last two seasons. How you can sit back and rip a kid that does nothing but win is beyond me.

[Sten Carlson]

Ricky -

I can give two shits about how good a QB or any player is in the pros - I'm a Buckeye fan. How does Henne or Long being a great pro help you Wolverine fans. Do you want to know how he is measured - how many times did you beat Ohio State. That is the legacy he will leave at Michigan - 0-4. Troy Smith may hold a clipboard his whole NFL career - but he was a great Buckeye QB that owned you guys. I much rather have a QB that wins games then one that hangs big numbers. The only thing that matters is that you get a W - and TP does that. He is a highly gifted QB that is just now getting the hang of college play - and that is scary. I have no doubt that TP will go 4-0 in his carreer against Michigan and may go to 4 BCS bowls - if that is failure, I will take a whole bunch of failures just like him. If you want to talk about failure - how about 3 and 5 wins the last two seasons. How you can sit back and rip a kid that does nothing but win is beyond me.

Guys,

You all know that I am not going agree very often with Nut. But, on this point, I think it a bad idea for Michigan fans to be ripping on TP. Yes, he was very hyped, and yes he has/had some throwing issues, but he is entering his junior season, and Nut is correct, he's won, and beat Michigan twice. I hope you all know that I a dislike the Buckeyes as much as anyone, but I think we need to show our respect to TP, and the way that JT is handling him.

The Buckeyes are very fortunate to have had the surrounding cast to allow JT to build TP's skills slowly. There is no doubt that TP is amazingly gifted, the only doubt that remains, in my mind, is will he ever become as good a passer as he is a runner. If he does, that is a truly a scary proposition. I for one am glad that we only have to face him for two more seasons, and I hope that he wins the Heisman this year and leaves for the NFL!

Again, I am NOT turning in to a Buckeye fan, but I think we should show some class and give respect where it is due, and IMO, TP is due some respect for his on-field ability.

*puke*

[NorCal Buckeye]

Guys,

You all know that I am not going agree very often with Nut. But, on this point, I think it a bad idea for Michigan fans to be ripping on TP. Yes, he was very hyped, and yes he has/had some throwing issues, but he is entering his junior season, and Nut is correct, he's won, and beat Michigan twice. I hope you all know that I a dislike the Buckeyes as much as anyone, but I think we need to show our respect to TP, and the way that JT is handling him.

The Buckeyes are very fortunate to have had the surrounding cast to allow JT to build TP's skills slowly. There is no doubt that TP is amazingly gifted, the only doubt that remains, in my mind, is will he ever become as good a passer as he is a runner. If he does, that is a truly a scary proposition. I for one am glad that we only have to face him for two more seasons, and I hope that he wins the Heisman this year and leaves for the NFL!

Again, I am NOT turning in to a Buckeye fan, but I think we should show some class and give respect where it is due, and IMO, TP is due some respect for his on-field ability.

*puke*

LOL, the kid is not far off from being unbeaten as a starter in two seasons...three nip and tuck games against PSU, TX, and USC we should have won, and the OL being injury riddled allowing PD to swarm black jerseys on him the whole day. He has done well, very well, playing up to only about 50-65% of his potential, so far. When it all comes together between his ears this year you are going to see a beast.

[rickyleach]

nut why are you getting so pissed off at me , im telling you how i feel and yes sten is correct in saying pryor deserves some respecto, but we shall see , if your boy becomes all world this year ,then i was wrong , anyhow enough of this shit , im moving on , thankyou sten.

[1OSUNUT]

Sten -

Well put. Do I think he is the end all be all - not at all. I do however think he is a very good colllege QB that causes problems for defenses. He has had some throwing issues - but he has also made some big plays in his two years. he does however have the IT factor going for him. I jumped on Ricky because he was calling him a failure as well as saying he has not come close to meeting the hype - I took offense to that. Do any of you think Tate will lead Michigan to a BCS bowl or a conference championship in the next three years ? TP has done it twice already - that is what I was trying to explaine. I give respect where respect is do - and always have, and I hate Michigan. I just think Ricky has issues with TP because he picked OSU over Michigan. I'm a Buckeye fan more then I'm a fan of anything else. Sure I watch the NFL (season ticket holder) and I want to see all the former Bucks do well - but I rather see them do well in college. TP very well might not make it as a NFL QB - he will be drafted as a athlete. I can see him as a WR or something at the next level - but I don't care. Just be the best college player you can be and he will have a solid legacy with Buckeye fans forever. Troy Smith will forever be worshiped in Columbus - so will TP.

[amazinblue]

Do any of you think Tate will lead Michigan to a BCS bowl or a conference championship in the next three years ?

Nut,

No doubt that TP is talented - and both his frame and running ability are very strong. However, the only game that he's been close to impressive with his arm is the game against Oregon.

IF TP wins four against Michigan as a starter - he'll go down in the history books at OSU. And, like you - though it's nice to see alums do well at the next level - I just want to see players play well and win at Michigan - and wish them success in their lives - regardless of what career they pursue.

I do think that TP still has work to do - and, though he's been running an offense designed to reduce his errors (run first - short passes) - the next two seasons will determine whether he lives up to the hype and becomes an "Archie Griffin" type figure at OSU. Personally, I think he'll make "some of a mark" - but won't compare to Archie in either the near or long term. And, I know that Archie's the top of the mountain - but, Archie was (and still is) solid - on and OFF the field. We'll see what TP does on the field these next two years - and, if he becomes a legend after that.

Regarding Tate - I do believe if he stays healthy that Michigan will make a BCS game during his four years. And, whether it's TF, DR, or DG - I do believe that Michigan makes a BCS game before they (specifically, TF or DG) graduate.

[tpilews]

Sten -

Well put. Do I think he is the end all be all - not at all. I do however think he is a very good colllege QB that causes problems for defenses. He has had some throwing issues - but he has also made some big plays in his two years. he does however have the IT factor going for him. I jumped on Ricky because he was calling him a failure as well as saying he has not come close to meeting the hype - I took offense to that. Do any of you think Tate will lead Michigan to a BCS bowl or a conference championship in the next three years ? TP has done it twice already - that is what I was trying to explaine. I give respect where respect is do - and always have, and I hate Michigan. I just think Ricky has issues with TP because he picked OSU over Michigan. I'm a Buckeye fan more then I'm a fan of anything else. Sure I watch the NFL (season ticket holder) and I want to see all the former Bucks do well - but I rather see them do well in college. TP very well might not make it as a NFL QB - he will be drafted as a athlete. I can see him as a WR or something at the next level - but I don't care. Just be the best college player you can be and he will have a solid legacy with Buckeye fans forever. Troy Smith will forever be worshiped in Columbus - so will TP.

I agree in that we have to give TP some credit; he certainly has made some plays. But, I think you're giving him a little too much credit. Without that great defense, osu wouldn't have won as many games as they did. Even more so the year before. Up to this point, osu has won games despite TP. However, in the future, they may win some games, as they did in the Rose Bowl, because of him.

[Plus 1]

TPILEWS loosely translated equals "TP I lose", a slam on our stud QB who has only lost four games in his first two (freshman and sophmore) years, with three of those losses of course being tight games against three of the best programs in the country and the other a monumental upset when our O line was banged up at Purdue.

As for TPILEWS being a "he", I'm wouldn't swear to that. He might actually be a lady wolverine.

I see.

Well it took a while but we finally Broke em' Down. They could'nt take it anymore, and the Trolls made them CRY UNCLE...and cry to the Editor.
I guess it took Michigan Football being relegated to Bottom Feeders in the Big Ten to help break em.... but Broke they are.

"There was an "OUTCRY".
They must really hate me... I've only posted twice this week and the "WOLVERINE GESTAPO" deleted both of my posts.

Oh well that fits in with the current administration of this country...at least here on Hail Victors.:cool:
The 1st Ammendment to the constitution of the U.S. of America does'nt carry any weight on this Socialist site.:rolleyes:

[Sten Carlson]

The 1st Ammendment to the constitution of the U.S. of America does'nt carry any weight on this Socialist site.:rolleyes:

Well Plus 1, your statement shows how pathetic your knowledge of the Constitution is. The first amendment, like ALL the provisions and Amendments apply to the Government, and until the passage of the 14th Amendment in 1868, only to the Federal Government.

The 1st Amendment to the Constitution states in relevant part:

" Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech; or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble..." [emphasis added]

Editor, and his moderators, are NOT Congress, and as such, they're free to impose any restrictions upon free speech that they see fit on their website. In fact, it is a VERY common aspect of internet culture these days to have subject specific forums, such as this one, that are moderated (i.e., censored) to keep the content along the lines of the site's original intent.

If you find it difficult to participate in the forum discussion by posting material deemed appropriate by the moderators, then you have two choice: a) alter your posts to better conform with the wishes of the moderators; or b) stop trying to participate on the site and find another more "open" site within which to post your opinions.

But, don't come in here claiming a violation of your Constitutional rights, and painting the Editors and the moderators as socialists -- not only because neither is true, but because you don't have the foggiest idea what the 1st Amendment says (as evidenced by you assertion), nor what a Socialist is!

[tpilews]

TPILEWS loosely translated equals "TP I lose"

tpilews is loosely translated as the first initial of my first name and then the first six digits of my last name.

[Don Unverferth]

tpilews is loosely translated as the first initial of my first name and then the first six digits of my last name.

Digits? You mean letters?

[tpilews]

Digits? You mean letters?

Haha, yeah.

[Plus 1]

Well Plus 1, your statement shows how pathetic your knowledge of the Constitution is. The first amendment, like ]ALL the provisions and Amendments apply to the Government , and until the passage of the 14th Amendment in 1868, only to the Federal Government.

The 1st Amendment to the Constitution states in relevant part:

" Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech; or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble..." [emphasis added]

Editor, and his moderators, are NOT Congress, and as such, they're free to impose any restrictions upon free speech that they see fit on their website. In fact, it is a VERY common aspect of internet culture these days to have subject specific forums, such as this one, that are moderated (i.e., censored) to keep the content along the lines of the site's original intent.

If you find it difficult to participate in the forum discussion by posting material deemed appropriate by the moderators, then you have two choice: a) alter your posts to better conform with the wishes of the moderators; or b) stop trying to participate on the site and find another more "open" site within which to post your opinions.

But, don't come in here claiming a violation of your Constitutional rights, and painting the Editors and the moderators as socialists -- not only because neither is true, but because you don't have the foggiest idea what the 1st Amendment says (as evidenced by you assertion), nor what a Socialist is!

Feel Better ??? Convinced yourself yet ???:cool:

{ All dictators had to get their start SOMEPLACE.....}


Socialism: a political theory advocating state ownership of industry, schools, media {Newspapers, internet, television, radio etc}
... an economic system based on state ownership of capital [syn:
socialist economy] [ant: capitalism]

Oh.... just in case:
Dictator: someone who rules unconstrained by law ...in opposition to democracy..[syn: potentate]
.... behaves like a tyrant [syn: authoritarian]

.. One who dictates; one who prescribes rules and maxims
authoritatively for the direction of others.

.... One invested with absolute authority; especially, a
magistrate created in times of exigence and distress, and
invested with unlimited power.

Invested with the authority of a dictator, nay, of a
pope, over our language.

You're no Einstein yourself PAL. :D

BTW: Dipwad....this Government is supposed to be.... of the people....by the people ...and for the people....?????

[rickyleach]

i guess plus1s pussy is hurting again , gee i hope he is alright.

[Plus 1]

i guess plus1s pussy is hurting again , gee i hope he is alright.

I'm fine...how's your Wolverine football team doin' lately.. ricky?:cool:

[Sten Carlson]

Feel Better ??? Convinced yourself yet ???:cool:

{ All dictators had to get their start SOMEPLACE.....}


Socialism: a political theory advocating state ownership of industry, schools, media {Newspapers, internet, television, radio etc}
... an economic system based on state ownership of capital [syn:
socialist economy] [ant: capitalism]

Oh.... just in case:
Dictator: someone who rules unconstrained by law ...in opposition to democracy..[syn: potentate]
.... behaves like a tyrant [syn: authoritarian]

.. One who dictates; one who prescribes rules and maxims
authoritatively for the direction of others.

.... One invested with absolute authority; especially, a
magistrate created in times of exigence and distress, and
invested with unlimited power.

Invested with the authority of a dictator, nay, of a
pope, over our language.

You're no Einstein yourself PAL. :D

Plus 1,

I never claimed that you were incapable of looking up the definition of Socialism, only that you didn't know its appropriate application as evidenced by your attempt to apply it to HailVictors. There is no way that a internet forum can be "Socialistic" because, as you aptly pointed out, Socialism involves STATE ownership of industry, media, etc. Here, HailVictors is NOT a governmental entity, and it has no industry, media, eduction, etc. to control. It is an privately owned internet forum, and as such, the owners are under no obligation to anyone but themselves.

Now, your second definition, although no mentioned in your first post, nor my response, is in fact a bit more appropriate -- but only by analogy, not reality. I see your point about one individual (Editor) being the dictator of the site, issuing edicts and violations (or delegating the authority to do so to his minions). However, you're still missing the most important point, and a point that you wrote several times in your definitions: words like "law" "democracy" "maxim" and "magistrate". All those words have a "governmental" implication to them.

Again, slowly so you can understand, THIS SITE IS NOT A GOVERNMENT, and the people that run it DO NOT OWE YOU, nor anyone, ANYTHING! Do you call the guy that owns his own plumbing business a dictator because he won't let his workers to have exposed tattoos when they make house calls? No. He is the sole proprietor of a small business, and can run it as he sees fit. He didn't hire people and claim that they were entering into a democratic situation, and neither does this site advertise itself as a democratic website in which everyone's thoughts and opinions are going to be heard and taken into account. This site is a sole proprietorship as well, and Editor and his delegates can run it as they see fit.

You're right, I am no Einstein, he was a physicist -- a subject that I find very interesting, but equally as baffling. Any idiot can look up the definition of a word, but to be truly intelligent, one has to know how to APPLY that definition -- a skill which you obviously have yet to master!

[Sten Carlson]

I'm fine...how's your Wolverine football team doin' lately ricky?:cool:


Silence, or the lack of denial, is acquiesence...as such, you just admitted that you do in fact HAVE A PUSSY!

LOL! Well said Plus 1, well said!

[Plus 1]

Silence, or the lack of denial, is acquiesence...as such, you just admitted that you do in fact HAVE A PUSSY!

LOL! Well said Plus 1, well said!

Wow ...we are BITTER about the football situation are'nt we Sten-girl????

[Sten Carlson]

Wow ...we are BITTER about the football situation are'nt we Sten-girl????

I am not bitter in the least. Read my posts -- I am ENJOYING the struggles, and I feel like it is something that Michigan needed to go through, and that will make Michigan stronger in the long run.

What in my most recent post would make you think that I am bitter? You're the one that admitted to the presence of vaginal tissues between your legs, not me -- I was just pointing that fact out. I don't see how the presence of your labia has anything to do with my feelings about Michigan football!?! Please explain...

[Plus 1]

[QUOTE=Sten Carlson;46587]Plus 1,

I never claimed that you were incapable of looking up the definition of Socialism, only that you didn't know its appropriate application as evidenced by your attempt to apply it to HailVictors. There is no way that a internet forum can be "Socialistic" because, as you aptly pointed out, Socialism involves STATE ownership of industry, media, etc. Here, HailVictors is NOT a governmental entity, and it has no industry, media, eduction, etc. to control. It is an privately owned internet forum, and as such, the owners are under no obligation to anyone but themselves.

Now, your second definition, although no mentioned in your first post, nor my response, is in fact a bit more appropriate -- but only by analogy, not reality. I see your point about one individual (Editor) being the dictator of the site, issuing edicts and violations (or delegating the authority to do so to his minions). However, you're still missing the most important point, and a point that you wrote several times in your definitions: words like "law" "democracy" "maxim" and "magistrate". All those words have a "governmental" implication to them.

Again, slowly so you can understand, THIS SITE IS NOT A GOVERNMENT, and the people that run it DO NOT OWE YOU, nor anyone, ANYTHING! Do you call the guy that owns his own plumbing business a dictator because he won't let his workers to have exposed tattoos when they make house calls? No. He is the sole proprietor of a small business, and can run it as he sees fit. He didn't hire people and claim that they were entering into a democratic situation, and neither does this site advertise itself as a democratic website in which everyone's thoughts and opinions are going to be heard and taken into account. This site is a sole proprietorship as well, and Editor and his delegates can run it as they see fit.

You're right, I am no Einstein, he was a physicist -- a subject that I find very interesting, but equally as baffling. Any idiot can look up the definition of a word, but to be truly intelligent, one has to know how to APPLY that definition -- a skill which you obviously have yet to master![/Q

Well like Hitler.... this site had to start somewhere !!!:cool:

[Don Unverferth]

Silence, or the lack of denial, is acquiesence...as such, you just admitted that you do in fact HAVE A PUSSY!


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[Plus 1]

I am not bitter in the least. Read my posts -- I am ENJOYING the struggles, and I feel like it is something that Michigan needed to go through, and that will make Michigan stronger in the long run.

What in my most recent post would make you think that I am bitter? You're the one that admitted to the presence of vaginal tissues between your legs, not me -- I was just pointing that fact out. I don't see how the presence of your labia has anything to do with my feelings about Michigan football!?! Please explain...


Explain ? OK...Much like this post of yours..Michigan football is ...Low down... and lousy ????:cool:

[Sten Carlson]

Explain ? OK...Much like this post of yours..Michigan football is ...Low down... and lousy ????:cool:

But what does that have to do with your the dangling labia that you admitted to Ricky (and the entire internet) that are between your legs?

You're making HUGE logical and linguistic leaps Plus 1, and for the sake of clarity, you might want to summarize your arguement. Here, let me start.

You claimed this site was violating your 1st Amendment right to free speech, and is Socialist. I then rebutted with a quotation of the 1st Amend., and a counter argument that HailVictors is perfectly within its right to censor you, or whomever they please, because they are not a goverment entity. Further, and in that same vein, I pointed out that HailVictors could not possibly be "Socialist" because, taking language from your own definition, it is not a State, and has no industry, media, etc. to control. You then claimed that I, or the site, was acting as a dictator, to which I agreed in part, but expressed that I thought the governmental issue reared up again. To which, you called me Hitler.

No on to the issue of you pussy.

Ricky said that after my rebuttal of you less than compelling "1st Amend. violation" argument, your pussy must be hurting. To which you replied, "I am fine..."

To which I replied that you didn't deny the presence of a pussy between your legs. To which you said that I must be bitter about the state of Michigan football currently. To which I replied, I am pleased with the struggles (as is evidenced by many previous posts) and I am not sure what my feelings about Michigan football has to do with your labia (minor and majora).

Please explain yourself further...

[NorCal Buckeye]

I see.

Well it took a while but we finally Broke em' Down. They could'nt take it anymore, and the Trolls made them CRY UNCLE...and cry to the Editor.
I guess it took Michigan Football being relegated to Bottom Feeders in the Big Ten to help break em.... but Broke they are.

"There was an "OUTCRY".
They must really hate me... I've only posted twice this week and the "WOLVERINE GESTAPO" deleted both of my posts.

Oh well that fits in with the current administration of this country...at least here on Hail Victors.:cool:
The 1st Ammendment to the constitution of the U.S. of America does'nt carry any weight on this Socialist site.:rolleyes:

Yeah, I've been honored as well...posts deleted, banned for a week over some ticky tacky infraction calls, and now they've selected my avatar and tag line as well. I like 'em though, they make me laugh, a lot.

[bighousemike84]

Ok thats it,

rather than delete a bunch of posts and waste my time I am going to delete this entire thread if it continues this way. You want to argue like that then private message each other to your hearts content but I am not going to have a bitch fest splashed all over the pages of this thread.

[Wolvrin704]

You may as well give up Sten. Plus 0 has no ability to comprehend what you are saying or the faculties to think or argue logically (much like all trolls and Buckeye fans).