Denard!!!!

[Sten Carlson]

19-22 for 187 1 TD passing
29 for 199 1 TD rushing
386 yrds total offense

School record QB rushing...no turnovers!

Not too shabby! Hope UCONN wins out!

Bring on ND!

Great start!

Go Blue!!!

[Mike Furley]

19-22 for 187 1 TD passing
29 for 199 1 TD rushing
386 yrds total offense

School record QB rushing...no turnovers!


Not too shabby! Hope UCONN wins out!

Bring on ND!

Great start!

Go Blue!!!


Great start indeed. Which do you think is more likely now, Forcier sees the field b/c DR gets injured, or Forcier transfers? With Gardner second in off the bench and Tater pouting on the sidelines, I'm thinking his transfer papers may be submitted as early as this week.

[Motown74]

Great start indeed. Which do you think is more likely now, Forcier sees the field b/c DR gets injured, or Forcier transfers? With Gardner second in off the bench and Tater pouting on the sidelines, I'm thinking his transfer papers may be submitted as early as this week.

Furley,

I think he transfers by week four. He was pathetic. I am pissed at what he did, but I am even more pissed that people here didn't call out Denard for doing the same thing the ENTIRE 2009 season.

[blueisbetterthanred]

Furley,

I think he transfers by week four. He was pathetic. I am pissed at what he did, but I am even more pissed that people here didn't call out Denard for doing the same thing the ENTIRE 2009 season.

Show me some video of him pouting off by himself last season while the rest of the team was winning and celebrating? I'm not saying it didn't happen but I don't remember it like that. There were some times he looked upset on the sidelines after throwing some picks and getting yelled at by RR, but not pouting for not playing.

I could be having a memory lapse but I don't remember him acting like that.

[Motown74]

Show me some video of him pouting off by himself last season while the rest of the team was winning and celebrating? I'm not saying it didn't happen but I don't remember it like that. There were some times he looked upset on the sidelines after throwing some picks and getting yelled at by RR, but not pouting for not playing.

I could be having a memory lapse but I don't remember him acting like that.

From about the fourth game on he stood off by himself. There was even talk of him wanting to transfer but his cousin talked him out of it. He wasn't sitting on the bench with a towel over his head like Tate but he stood off by himself and a few times was the last one to walk in at halftime. His body language was similar to Tate's.

[bighousemike84]

From about the fourth game on he stood off by himself. There was even talk of him wanting to transfer but his cousin talked him out of it. He wasn't sitting on the bench with a towel over his head like Tate but he stood off by himself and a few times was the last one to walk in at halftime. His body language was similar to Tate's.

I dont believe you, I want some kind of article or evidence that shows that Robinson had a poor attitude last season. Hell, the only times I have ever seen the kid he is wearing a smile from ear to ear.

[Motown74]

I dont believe you, I want some kind of article or evidence that shows that Robinson had a poor attitude last season. Hell, the only times I have ever seen the kid he is wearing a smile from ear to ear.

I don't really care if you believe me. I know what I saw and what the commentators said. Especially during the Illinois game. I will look for evidence though, just to show ya. :)

[blue in pennsylvania]

Furley,

I think he transfers by week four. He was pathetic. I am pissed at what he did, but I am even more pissed that people here didn't call out Denard for doing the same thing the ENTIRE 2009 season.

If you say the entire 2009 season, then you should provide information of DR doing the same thing the entire 2009 season or adjust your statement.

[Blue In Ohio]

I think the offseason proved alot about which qb was willing to go out and put the work in to get the job. Denard got the job because he earned it. Alot of respect to him for coming from behind and learning the offense and taking the job. Some of the ball fakes were so good not only did the whole Uconn defense go the wrong way the camera man and I did too. Tate lost the job because Tate didn't think he had to make the commitment in the offseason. I like Tate and was dissapointed he did not play but there is something going on here that RR must realize and that is why we saw Gardner in there. Gardner is a strong runner much better than Tate. This offense depends on a qb with speed who can break a tackle or two. If Denard was a running back he would be the best running back on our roster.

[rickyleach]

motown ,what you just posted never happened......

[bighousemike84]

If you say the entire 2009 season, then you should provide information of DR doing the same thing the entire 2009 season or adjust your statement.

Well? Im still waiting. I would think that if your statement was true then you would have found evidence to back it up by now. So that makes me think that you were not telling the truth and that you cant prove your statement true. In that case I cant help but wonder why, then, would you have made the statement to begin with?

[Wolvrin704]

DR did not melt down last season like TF did yesterday last season. He came in knowing last season he could compete but that he was way behind the 8 ball. Yes he probably got upset about not playing as much as he wanted but he used that to better himself in the offseason which we have heard about since the spring game. Many doubted that he was good as he looked in the spring and it looks like he is as good as we saw.

The main difference is not only did DR not go sit off by himself and pout but he also did not tell the media that he was "outta here". I like how his dad called him out and basically said over his dead body. Maybe he can talk some sense into the boy.

[amazinblue]

You know what I think is impressive - is how DR has developed over the last 9 or 10 months. I believe it's a combination of a few things - 1) natural ability, 2) hard work by DR, and 3) effective coaching by the staff. I believe DR was a "raw" talent last season - he had speed, yes - but, he really didn't have that much of an arm (if any, arguably).

I'm wondering - if RR and the staff can do this much in 13 months (from the day DR arrived on campus) - don't you think it's going to be interesting what they are able to do when they've got a QB with even great natural ability and more time to work with him?

[Motown74]

Well? Im still waiting. I would think that if your statement was true then you would have found evidence to back it up by now. So that makes me think that you were not telling the truth and that you cant prove your statement true. In that case I cant help but wonder why, then, would you have made the statement to begin with?

BigHouseMike,

Here is what I posted on 10/31/09:

Cause for Concern
My dad was at the game today and he noticed that Denard Robinson was standing all alone on the sideline. That he was standing away from everyone and not speaking to anyone. At the half, he ran out on the field to Greg Mathews and they both "walked" into the locker room. Was anyone else there that noticed this?

Here are a couple of concerns: With RRODs behavior on the sidelines, how many are going to leave the team after the season? How is that going to impact recruiting and incoming players? Why haven't we seen DROB in another position? Couldn't we design a play where he is a split and runs a reverse pass? Use him or lose him.
Here is what RickyLeach posted on the same date:

Motown .i saw the same thing and d/robs body language was like he wasnt part of the team, things dont look good right now and rr looked abit worried over on the sidelines

And here is what Don Unverferth posted:

The undercurrent is that Rodriguez is at the end of his rope. Reliable sources say they are anticipating losing 4 or 5 more members of the team following the season that are neither disciplinary, or academic issues.

What my dad saw and what I witnessed were similar behaviors. Obviously there wasn't such a controversy and fifteen cameras pointed at the kid. Remember, I don't like what TF did at all, but DR did his share of pouting last year as well.

[UM_Addict]

Not to change the subject... but I will.

How long do you think Notre Lame will have the grass this weekend to slow down D Rob. I have to believe that Brian Kelly himself started fertilizing the field after watching tape of his performance yesterday.

[blueisbetterthanred]

Maybe Tate can earn back some good graces if he sneaks in friday night and mows the field down to 1/4inch. :)

[bighousemike84]

BigHouseMike,

Here is what I posted on 10/31/09:

Cause for Concern
My dad was at the game today and he noticed that Denard Robinson was standing all alone on the sideline. That he was standing away from everyone and not speaking to anyone. At the half, he ran out on the field to Greg Mathews and they both "walked" into the locker room. Was anyone else there that noticed this?

Here are a couple of concerns: With RRODs behavior on the sidelines, how many are going to leave the team after the season? How is that going to impact recruiting and incoming players? Why haven't we seen DROB in another position? Couldn't we design a play where he is a split and runs a reverse pass? Use him or lose him.
Here is what RickyLeach posted on the same date:

Motown .i saw the same thing and d/robs body language was like he wasnt part of the team, things dont look good right now and rr looked abit worried over on the sidelines

And here is what Don Unverferth posted:

The undercurrent is that Rodriguez is at the end of his rope. Reliable sources say they are anticipating losing 4 or 5 more members of the team following the season that are neither disciplinary, or academic issues.

What my dad saw and what I witnessed were similar behaviors. Obviously there wasn't such a controversy and fifteen cameras pointed at the kid. Remember, I don't like what TF did at all, but DR did his share of pouting last year as well.

So DR looked like he might be pouting and possibly unhappy and you want to compare that to Forcier hiding under a towel and making a comment like "im out"?! There is no comparison between the two actions. I dont know what your dad percieved that day but I dont see any hint of a problem with DR and the team so to assume that his behavior was due to being upset at not starting is ridiculous. This is college you know, kids have more then football on the brain and his behavior could have been associated with a number of different things.

Its kinda interesting to go back and look at those comments you made at that time. You wondered who was going to leave the program and a year later there hasnt been any attrition. You were concerned that RR was not utilizing Denards abilities in a different position but now we can see why Rodriguez wanted him to remain at QB and learn QB before throwing him into another position. So your concerns were completely wrong and Michigan is doing fine with DR at QB, he is a team player that the team feels confident with, Tate is not and for that I will call him out. If anyone else on the team wants to act like that I will call his ass out too but Denard is not one of them and has never been.

[rickyleach]

Maybe Tate can earn back some good graces if he sneaks in friday night and mows the field down to 1/4inch. :)

great post and for that matter he can pick up the dogshit left by purdue ..

[tpilews]

http://www.bigtennetwork.com/videos/index.asp?bcpid=22268552001&bctid=605283538001

[blueisbetterthanred]

Nice interview, does Shoelace EVER stop smiling? :)

[GoBlue21]

Nice interview, does Shoelace EVER stop smiling? :)

I think its great, i like when these guys are all smiles. They will hit some rough spots this season but as long as they are enjoying their college experience, it will make it easier to get through those times.

Watching the Countdown to Kickoff videos, there are a few athletes that come across with good personalities and Denard is definitely one of them!

[amazinblue]

... i like when these guys are all smiles. They will hit some rough spots this season but as long as they are enjoying their college experience, it will make it easier to get through those times...

GoBlue21,

I think there is something very important about "having fun" while they are playing. I could say "it's a game" - but, in addition to that, having fun makes it a lot easier to play loose and relax - and that, IMO, can help execution - since I do believe that one thing we struggled with the past couple of years was being too tight - too highly strung - and laughing / smiling can help reduce that tension.

[Columbusisawhore]

I want Denard to open the OSU game with a big TD run into the end zone that says OHIO STATE... run over to the "I", take off his helmet and bow to the crowd... I think it would be classic.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

so, your "evidence" is something you made up...

[bighousemike84]

The obvious thing to point out is that Michigan cannot rely to heavily on Denard to win them games because they will wear him out and it will cost them games. But he is an absolute monster and his numbers are sick http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/6579/michigans-robinson-in-exclusive-neighborhood


Ninth QB in NCAA history to rush (258) and pass (244) for 200+ yards in a game, and the first since West Virginia's Pat White in 2006.


Longest rush TD in Notre Dame Stadium history (87 yards).


Robinson now has 455 rushing yards this season. Last year, Michigan's leading rusher was Brandon Minor with 502 yards.

[MAIZEandBLUEsuedeshoes]

The obvious thing to point out is that Michigan cannot rely to heavily on Denard to win them games because they will wear him out and it will cost them games. But he is an absolute monster and his numbers are sick http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/6579/michigans-robinson-in-exclusive-neighborhood

Those are some crazy stats. I almost can't believe I'm reading it. Almost....

[bighousemike84]

I cant express just how much I love that the most exciting player in college football is Michigans own Denard Robinson. Michigan winning is a great thing and gives Rodriguez a lot of breathing room but Denards crazy numbers and jaw dropping performances have made Rodriguez start to look like the offensive guru he was pegged as. I agree with that sentiment too, I mean from last year to this year, Robinson has made an amazing improvement. A lot of that is on Robinson putting in the work in the off season but I credit Rodriguez and his coaching staff for teaching the offense to Denard and preparing him to make the proper reads. And I think that Rodriguez has shown that he is not afraid to mix things up when he has to, hes not afraid to go downfield a little bit and he is not about to let Michigan get to full of themselves just yet.

Again, I really dont want to get to crazy optimistic about this season only two games in but Michigan looks to be almost a complete team. As a fan that has believed in what Rodriguez has been doing, and as someone who has seen that this potential existed for Michigan, it feels really good to have that belief validated. Rodriguez is a good coach and a good recruiter. Michigan is a team that can win more than 5 games in a season and Rodriguez has built a program that will last for a long time. I am not saying this because I want to rub it in anyones face, I am just to excited to sleep and cant help but feel proud of the team that I love. Its time for all fans to believe in this team and its coach. If things go the way I think they will then I believe Rich Rodriguez will retire from Michigan a Michigan football legend. He will be regarded a true Michigan Man and he will always be regarded warmly in the hearts of Michiganders everywhere. There is still lots of time to prove my prediction wrong but my track record is pretty good so far.

[BlueBallers]

Everyone is talking abut how he cant keep this up and it wont last in the Big 10, i say why not?? DR is just as big as most TB and he is an athlete. I don't like him running 30 times a game but if your best player happens to be your QB, a guy who is 6'0 and close to 200 pounds, run him!! If any other team had him at TB, they would be begging for him to tote the rock 30+ times. I think he is a special player and i hope they keep the petal to the metal and ride him. Im not worried one bit, the kid is special. I'm not worried about OSU, Iowa,MSU, Wisc or PSU. He is the best player on the field at any given time, ride the kid. GO BLUE

[1OSUNUT]

I agree DR is a special player. He is playing very good ball right now - but you have to protect him. I hope you do realize that if something was to happen to him your offensive production and flow of your offense would be much different. None of the guys you have behind him are even in the same ballpark as a runner. In the next few weeks if Michigan can get a big enough lead - he need to be pulled from the games. Not only to get Gardner some reps - but just to keep DR fresh and injury free. Michigan is going to need him at his absolute best when the Big Ten season starts - period. If he is hampered in any way it will effect your team incredibly.

[blueisbetterthanred]

He also set a Big 10 record for total yards by a QB. I thought Shoelace was good, but I didn't know he had talent like THAT.

[RealwomenwearMaizeNBlue]

This is my absolute favorite video as of lately.... this song was meant for Denard....just listen to the lyrics..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im6GYTecVmU

[Bighouse]

Heisman?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recap?gid=201009110104

[Panzer]

Gee Nut thanks for once again pointing out the obvious. How would your team pan out if they lost Pryor. Oh and I'm sure that all this Heisman talk about Robinson is just giving you the red ass. How funny would that be for your boy who WAS the odds on favorite to win it this year lose it to a first year starter from Michigan.

[FLex500]

I agree DR is a special player. He is playing very good ball right now - but you have to protect him. I hope you do realize that if something was to happen to him your offensive production and flow of your offense would be much different. None of the guys you have behind him are even in the same ballpark as a runner. In the next few weeks if Michigan can get a big enough lead - he need to be pulled from the games. Not only to get Gardner some reps - but just to keep DR fresh and injury free. Michigan is going to need him at his absolute best when the Big Ten season starts - period. If he is hampered in any way it will effect your team incredibly.


If you look at the last 25 or so national championship teams at a quick glance IMO, 11 of them wouldn't have a chance in hell of being #1 in the nation without their qb...I mean not a chance...another 12 or so would have a VERY tough time but with their defense I could see it...and around 2 or so teams I could really see being the top team in the nation if they lost their qb.

My point is most reams that have success rely very heavily on their QB and if they lost their QB they woudl be very affected.

[rickyleach]

From about the fourth game on he stood off by himself. There was even talk of him wanting to transfer but his cousin talked him out of it. He wasn't sitting on the bench with a towel over his head like Tate but he stood off by himself and a few times was the last one to walk in at halftime. His body language was similar to Tate's.

you are dead wrong , not one time or ever did drob act like the whiney baby tate is . my question to you would be are your eyes brown......

[1OSUNUT]

Gee Nut thanks for once again pointing out the obvious. How would your team pan out if they lost Pryor. Oh and I'm sure that all this Heisman talk about Robinson is just giving you the red ass. How funny would that be for your boy who WAS the odds on favorite to win it this year lose it to a first year starter from Michigan.

Where you guys 5-0 last year ? I seem to remember Tate for Heisman talk last year after the ND game - how did that turn out. The season is a marathon - not a sprint. We will see if DR stays in one piece all season - RR does not have a good track record in that area.

[FLex500]

Where you guys 5-0 last year ? I seem to remember Tate for Heisman talk last year after the ND game - how did that turn out. The season is a marathon - not a sprint. We will see if DR stays in one piece all season - RR does not have a good track record in that area.


Last year was FAR different from this year. At least I know as a fan who goes to almost every game and is obsessive about re watching and breaking down the games it certainly looks and feels much different to me.

UM is still, IMO, a 7-5 to maybe 8-4 team. And let's be honest it was maybe...MAYBE 1% of the michigan fanbase chanting "tate for heisman" and even then it was mostly just for "fun".

[Motown74]

you are dead wrong , not one time or ever did drob act like the whiney baby tate is . my question to you would be are your eyes brown......

RickyLeach,



Go to my profile and search for my threads. I even quoted your response to my initial thread where you stated the same thing! Check it out for yourself:

BigHouseMike,

Here is what I posted on 10/31/09:

Cause for Concern

My dad was at the game today and he noticed that Denard Robinson was standing all alone on the sideline. That he was standing away from everyone and not speaking to anyone. At the half, he ran out on the field to Greg Mathews and they both "walked" into the locker room. Was anyone else there that noticed this?

Here are a couple of concerns: With RRODs behavior on the sidelines, how many are going to leave the team after the season? How is that going to impact recruiting and incoming players? Why haven't we seen DROB in another position? Couldn't we design a play where he is a split and runs a reverse pass? Use him or lose him.

Here is what RickyLeach posted on the same date:

Motown .i saw the same thing and d/robs body language was like he wasnt part of the team, things dont look good right now and rr looked abit worried over on the sidelines And here is what Don Unverferth posted:

The undercurrent is that Rodriguez is at the end of his rope. Reliable sources say they are anticipating losing 4 or 5 more members of the team following the season that are neither disciplinary, or academic issues.

What my dad saw and what I witnessed were similar behaviors. Obviously there wasn't such a controversy and fifteen cameras pointed at the kid. Remember, I don't like what TF did at all, but DR did his share of pouting last year as well.

[tpilews]

Where you guys 5-0 last year ? I seem to remember Tate for Heisman talk last year after the ND game - how did that turn out. The season is a marathon - not a sprint. We will see if DR stays in one piece all season - RR does not have a good track record in that area.

I agree the Heisman talk is a bit premature, but to compare that to last year is a little ridiculous. Last year, Tate was mentioned. This year, the MSM is driving the "Denard for Heisman" campaign. They are the ones touting him as the current front-runner.

You know, it's funny you should bring up RR and QBs getting hurt. As was proven to you, by statistics, dual threat qbs have the same injury percentage as pro-style qbs. There was a nice diary done over at mgoblog. Interesting read - I suggest you take a look at it.


http://mgoblog.com/diaries/mobile-qb-injury-study

All the talk about Denard Robinson getting injured in the near future got me wondering how other mobile QB's have been handled, and how frequent injuries occur. These are my findings:


Michael Vick - Virginia Tech(1999,2000)
Carries: 262 Yards: 1,318 TD: 18
Michael Vick averaged about 12 carries per game and missed 2 games out of 22 possible career games due to injury. He carried the ball over 20 times on 1 occasion(23)


Vince Young - Texas(2004,2005)
Carries: 322 Yards: 2,129 TD: 26
Vince Young Averaged 13 Carries per game and did not miss any games due to injury. He also carried the ball over 20 times on 4 occasions (20,21,21,25)


Troy Smith - Ohio State(2003,2004,2005,2006)
Carries: 293 Yards: 1,168 TD: 14
Troy Smith averaged about 8 carries per game and did not miss any games due to injury. He never carried the ball over 20 times.


Josh Nesbitt - Georgia Tech(2007,2008,2009)
Carries: 504 Yards: 2,069 TD: 25
Josh Nesbitt averaged about 14 carries per game and missed 3 games out of a possible 38 due to injury. He carried the ball over 20 times on 10 occasions (32,28,27,26,23,23,22,21,21,20). He played all 14 games of the 2009 season despite carrying the ball an average of 20 times per game.


Tim Tebow - Florida(2006,2007,2008,2009)
Carries: 692 Yards: 2,947 TD: 57
Tim Tebow Averaged about 12 carries per game and never missed a game due to injury. He carried the ball over 20 times on 7 different occasions (27,27,26,24,22,22,20)




The most significant QB's to this study are QB's that played under Rich Rodriguez in his spread option system:


Rasheed Marshall - West Virginia(2001,2002,2003,2004)
Carries: 491 Yards: 2,040 TD: 24
Rasheed Marshall averaged about 11 carries per game and missed 1 game due to injury. He carried the ball over 20 times on 2 occasions (21,20).


Pat White - West Virginia(2005,2006,2007,2008)
Carries: 684 Yards: 4,480 TD: 47
Pat White averaged about 14 carries per game and missed 2 games as a 4 year starter. He also carried the ball over 20 times on 13 different occasions (27,24,24,23,23,22,22,22,21,21,21,20). I think it is also of note that Pat White is around the same height and weight as Denard Robinson.




Conclusion:
You can be a mobile Quarterback and get a lot of carries without being sidelined with injuries. It does not matter what conference you play in. Mobile QB's will get dinged up in a similar fashion to running backs but there is no reason to believe because a mobile QB carries the ball a lot he will fall victim to massive injuries and die.
It is also of note that a QB who is mobile is less likely to be injured as seriously as a pocket passer. Pocket passers are prone to injuries, especially on blitzes where they do not see the hit coming, get taken out at the legs, or are not mobile enough to elude a blitz. Mobile QB's get out in space, and are able to elude blitzes, they take more head on hits, but are less prone to devastating blind side hits that plauge pocket passers.

[Sten Carlson]

...but DR did his share of pouting last year as well.

I don't recall seeing any pouting on his part, but I'll take your word for it, and just say that he obviously used it as motivation to work hard on his game, get even fitter and stronger, and come into the season prepared to take the helm. Even if he was pouting, don't you think that what he's done on the field (i.e., delivering back-to-back record shattering performances) should put this conversation to rest. So he pouted, so what.

[amazinblue]

Where you guys 5-0 last year ? I seem to remember Tate for Heisman talk last year after the ND game - how did that turn out. The season is a marathon - not a sprint. We will see if DR stays in one piece all season - RR does not have a good track record in that area.

Nut,

Let's take a look at your points. Yes - Michigan did start out last year 5-0; and - the injuries to both TF and Molk were (IMO) major reasons why the team struggled for the remainder of the season. We do not have ideal depth across the roster; however, we are much deeper at QB and across the offense than we were last season. Look at last year's QB depth - TF was the starter, DR (who arrived with fall camp) was second on the depth chart, and then who was third? Was it Sheridan? I'm not saying that an injury (or two or three) wouldn't impact our effectiveness - depending on who was injured and when, it could impact the team's execution - however, Michigan's FAR deeper and more experienced than we were a season ago.

Media wants to talk about something - they NEED to talk about something - that's what the media does - that's what consumes air time / print. Please tell me - who else in college football has been a surprise this season - OR, who are the pre-season favorites for individual awards that have made statements with their play? I'll give TP credit for a decent game against Miami (though I base this purely on stats since I didn't see the game). I think the Oklahoma QB played well against FSU. Ingram hasn't played a down. Luck had a strong game against UCLA and Oregon looks to be quite tough - but, I have no idea who's making the contributions for the Ducks.

I do agree that the season is long - and conference play is still almost three weeks away. I believe RR is smart enough to know how to plan for and provide experience for the team. Your comment about him "not having a good track record" - is, IMO, ill founded. Yes, Pat White did get nicked up in the game against Pitt a few years ago, and that was costly. However, the same thing could happen in the Michigan / OSU game to either team's starting QB. Bauserman won't be able to produce like TP, and I don't think that TF / DG can produce like DR for Michigan either.

I trust RR knows what he's doing. I believe TF is working his way out of the doghouse.

[Mike Furley]

How tired will Denard's legs be for Saturday's game after all of the sex he's probably getting this week?

[bighousemike84]

Maybe thast why the guy is smiling all the time? A young Wilt Chamberlain

[bluefan]

Not to be a nitpicker but UM started out 4-0 last year. Then 4-1, 4-2, 5-2, and then the wheels flew off.

[Don Unverferth]

From everything I've read and have observed, Denard is an incredibly likeable, humble kid. Just look at him when he scores, no dancing, no goofy celebrations, he just gives the ball to the ref and gets down on one knee. So, for once, I don't mind seeing a UM player do well. He really has been amazing, and I think he'll continue to do well, (if he can stay in one piece). His numbers will inevitably come back to earth when you start facing teams with better athletic ability on defense, but he's obviously the perfect fit for that scheme.

[Swoosh]

From everything I've read and have observed, Denard is an incredibly likeable, humble kid. Just look at him when he scores, no dancing, no goofy celebrations, he just gives the ball to the ref and gets down on one knee. So, for once, I don't mind seeing a UM player do well. He really has been amazing, and I think he'll continue to do well, (if he can stay in one piece). His numbers will inevitably come back to earth when you start facing teams with better athletic ability on defense, but he's obviously the perfect fit for that scheme.

Very well put Don, I could not agree more.

[Motown74]

I don't recall seeing any pouting on his part, but I'll take your word for it, and just say that he obviously used it as motivation to work hard on his game, get even fitter and stronger, and come into the season prepared to take the helm. Even if he was pouting, don't you think that what he's done on the field (i.e., delivering back-to-back record shattering performances) should put this conversation to rest. So he pouted, so what.

Sten,

The reason for my post was to calm all the people down who were trashing on Tate. My point is, they both were immature and did what immature 18-19 year old kids do. Rickyleach brought this all back up and I was just pointing out that he corroborated my initial thread back in 2009 but must not remember that he backed it up with his own observation which was similar to my dad's and mine. I agree though, that his performances definitely show he earned the job.

[rickyleach]

From everything I've read and have observed, Denard is an incredibly likeable, humble kid. Just look at him when he scores, no dancing, no goofy celebrations, he just gives the ball to the ref and gets down on one knee. So, for once, I don't mind seeing a UM player do well. He really has been amazing, and I think he'll continue to do well, (if he can stay in one piece). His numbers will inevitably come back to earth when you start facing teams with better athletic ability on defense, but he's obviously the perfect fit for that scheme.

geeze don ,what can i say that was a very good post and you are right on.