Past Weekend Recruiting Visit...

[GoBlue21]

According to Sam Webb on WTKA, the recruits had a really good time in the snow. Apparently RichRod took them to the stadium and started doing snow angels at mid-field. After doing snow angels, he crumbled up some snow and started a snow ball fight. Apparently the recruits had some fun with the snow ball fight and mentioned that RichRod is really down to earth. Good for RichRod, snow is not 'white death', it's suppose to be fun to play in.

I know it's hard to recruit against the weather in Cali, Florida and Texas but hopefully Robinson, Mingo, Montgomery and Witty realize that snow isn't going to hurt. It can give them a different look on the football front and possibly prepare them for shots in the NFL. There are plenty of cold weather NFL teams out there and definitely some of the best (Pittsburgh, Philly, New England, Giants, etc.)...

[GoDeepHammer]

I can't remember, but one of the recruits talked about getting used to playing in snow. As if you play at the next level you are going to play in snow. I agree, it shouldn't be about the weather, it should be about the school.

[nc wolverine]

in my twisted logic i would think a lot of the kids would want to play in the north with snow.... anyone can play in 80 degree sunny weather and sec and big 12 teams will always get the nice weather. But in the nfl you might have two road games in green bay, chicago, ne. I would think gaining the experience of playing in a different climate and snow would only make them more versitile in the NFL. just a thought

[GoDeepHammer]

To bad the majority of the kids don't grasp the fact that most of them will not play ball after college, so they should be looking at the education and go where they can get the best education.

[nc wolverine]

To bad the majority of the kids don't grasp the fact that most of them will not play ball after college, so they should be looking at the education and go where they can get the best education.

And we have one of the best schools in the country.... honestly i cant see how any kid wouldnt want to go to UM

[1OSUNUT]

I think your looking at things through rose colored glasses. I cannot see who a kid cannot go to Ohio State. Many (not all) of these kids don't look at the future. Many assume that they will be playing on Sunday making insane money. The truth is that not many will. I agree education is very important when looking at a school as well. The classes that many of these kids are taking are good at many schools. Since ESPN and other channels show tons of games going to a large (major) school is not that important anymore. The parity in college football has grown and the gap between small schools and major schools have shrunk. The truth is that you can go to the NFL, play on TV weekly and still get a great education just about anywhere.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

I think your looking at things through rose colored glasses. I cannot see who a kid cannot go to Ohio State. Many (not all) of these kids don't look at the future. Many assume that they will be playing on Sunday making insane money. The truth is that not many will. I agree education is very important when looking at a school as well. The classes that many of these kids are taking are good at many schools. Since ESPN and other channels show tons of games going to a large (major) school is not that important anymore. The parity in college football has grown and the gap between small schools and major schools have shrunk. The truth is that you can go to the NFL, play on TV weekly and still get a great education just about anywhere.

Wow, just one grammatical error throughout the entire post, maybe he decided to go back and finish up his high school degree, congrats nut.

[blueisbetterthanred]

Rose colored glasses?

Michigan has 50 current NFL players.

your school has 47.

What's so rosy about that?

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

Rose colored glasses?

Michigan has 50 current NFL players.

your school has 47.

What's so rosy about that?

also michigan is a top 30 school academically in the country; Ohio State is NOT.

[Shane Falco]

I cannot see who a kid cannot go to Ohio State.

What???????????????

[nc wolverine]

shane.... im guessin that is up for interpretation?

[Silver Bullet]

I can't remember, but one of the recruits talked about getting used to playing in snow. As if you play at the next level you are going to play in snow. I agree, it shouldn't be about the weather, it should be about the school.

When was the last time Um played a game in the snow? I can't remember the last time it happened to OSU. The season wraps in November and it doesn't even get cold anymore until January.

[bigboyBlue]

When was the last time Um played a game in the snow? I can't remember the last time it happened to OSU. The season wraps in November and it doesn't even get cold anymore until January.

Not sure, but I thought it snowed during the NW game this year?

[Sten Carlson]

Not sure, but I thought it snowed during the NW game this year?

The NFL certainly plays a lot more game in the snow and cold than College Football. It does happen, but it is usually a more anomalous situation, and not the norm.

I think if there is an issue with the weather for southern players, its not in a football context so much as it is in an over all college life context. When you're from somewhere in which the sun shines daily, and you can pretty much wear shorts and tee-shirts years round, the thought of bundling up and trudging through campus might be a bit off-putting.

I know since I have moved to Texas (it's been 11 years now) the thought of living through a Michigan winters is not a very pleasant one. Here in Austin, we get a bit of cold, like right now it's probably 45 and overcast. But, on most days the sun is shining, and even if it starts out cold, it usually reaches the mid-60s by mid day. We get some ice and snow, ever fee winters, but nothing that lasts, and it could be in the 30 one day, and in the 80s or even 90s just a few days later.

[rickyleach]

michigan is in the top 25,on a national level ,and for a public school michigan is in the top4, as far as ohio state , as lee corso says forget about it, case western is the top academic school in ohio, ohio state doesnt rate , maybe in the top 60 , but what can you expect, its blow hio state..

[tpilews]

Not sure, but I thought it snowed during the NW game this year?

I'm sure the players would have preferred the snow. Wasn't it cold and rainy? That's the worst weather there is. It's one thing to be cold, but entirely another to be wet and cold.

pryorthrowslikeagirl, if you want to get technical, nut had quite a few grammatical errors. Nothing out of the norm though.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

I'm sure the players would have preferred the snow. Wasn't it cold and rainy? That's the worst weather there is. It's one thing to be cold, but entirely another to be wet and cold.

pryorthrowslikeagirl, if you want to get technical, nut had quite a few grammatical errors. Nothing out of the norm though.

yea I was just talking about spelling errors, my head would explode if I had to really revise his posts.

[bighousemike84]

it is what it is. We are making a big deal of something that probably isnt as important as we might think. Sure there are players that will choose not to come to a school like Michigan or UOS or Wisconsin but if that is the case then do we really need said players?

I think the thing to take from the recruiting roundup is the comments made about Coach Rod "he is really down to earth", "they made snow angels". There are a lot of RR haters out there and when you here things like that I dont know how you could hate the man. Anytime you have worry's that Coach wont succeed in AA just think about that. Think about all the players and recruits who say that the Michigan coaches are so cool, so fun. They say how much the team and coaches are a family. Sure we all heard Borens comments but there is no disputing that Justin handled that situation without class and everything he said was nothing but egg in his face. The longer Coach Rod spends in AA the more things I find that encourage me and give me reason to believe in him as a coach that can bring success to M but also make honorable Michigan Men out of his players

[bighousemike84]

Just like any fan I want and crave the NC the B10 championship the national accolades but I also understand the importance in the University of Michigan always being a bastion of integrity. No amount of success should ever trump that! Coach Schembechler and Coach Carr understood that and I believe that Coach Rodriguez is that same type of man

[1OSUNUT]

Great the kids can make "Snow Angels" - can they play football ?

[Bo23]

Great the kids can make "Snow Angels" - can they play football?


They can play football as well as you can lick the sweat of tress' nutsack after a hot, humid game. Keep up the good work, douchebag.

[cartyboi]

I'll bet they threw snowballs better than Pryor can throw a football.

[1OSUNUT]

You guys had better hope he does not leatn how to throw. If he does you will never beat him. He seemed to throw pretty good against Michigan.

[bigboyBlue]

You guys had better hope he does not leatn how to throw. If he does you will never beat him. He seemed to throw pretty good against Michigan.

I have no problem admitting that I'm hoping he doesn't learn to throw, kid is special with his feet.

As for throwing well against the worst Michigan D in history....congrats, whatever makes you sleep at night I guess.

[tpilews]

You guys had better hope he does not leatn how to throw. If he does you will never beat him. He seemed to throw pretty good against Michigan.

Yeah, I don't think it was that he threw so well against UM, it was that UM's defense was so awful that my grandma could have completed passes against it. With that being said, TP can get away with having a well below average arm because his feet create problems for the entire defense. So, if he ever learns how to throw with any ability, he'll be very, very good. Right now, any type of decent secondary will make tuos one dimensional.

[Sten Carlson]

You guys had better hope he does not leatn how to throw. If he does you will never beat him. He seemed to throw pretty good against Michigan.

Do you mean that he seemed to throw pretty well against Michigan? That's not saying much as our secondary has had a habit of making below average (and Pryor is definitely a below average passer) to average passers look like All-Americans!

However, I think you're correct in one aspect of your argument, although, saying that Michigan is never going to beat him is a stretch. I think, if Pryor learns to throw on the level of the average starting in college football, he is going to be a terror for defenses to deal with, and probably should be a contender for the Heisman Trophy.

To be honest, in watching the Fiesta Bowl game this years, I don't think I've even been more overwhelmed and underwhelmed by the same play in the same game. His elusiveness and running ability is flat out amazing! I am not fawning on the guy, but he is something special when it comes to running, no doubt about. However, at the same time, I was totally amazed with his complete inability to throw.

How long has he been playing QB? I would imagine that he's been back there since junior high, maybe be Pop Warner, and nobody ever taught the kid proper passing mechanics? I mean I was an aspiring QB when I was a kid, and in Junior High (with the exception of over all arm strength) I feel like I could throw a better ball than TP can right now. Perhaps I am overstating it a bit, but it is just amazing to me to see.

Now to be fair, I'd say the very same thing about Threet and Sheridan! Although, I think that Threet has an arm, there is just something messed up about the way his delivery.

Again, I would have loved to have TP be a Wolverine last season, not now as he is tainted, like the chick that his hot but then fucks some nasty ass greasy dirtball that you know -- you wouldn't fuck her with a stolen dick! He infested with Buckeyetis, and no Michigan Man would ever do anything with him or for him save douse him with a strong anti-fungal and massive doses of Sipro!

Colt McCoy didn't run very much vs. Ohio State, not sure why. Perhaps the OSU defense (which played well) was keying on him all game and it just wasn't there. But, in Colt you see what a QB that is a passer first and a runner second can do -- he can lead his team down the field in the waning seconds and win! By contrast we all saw what a running first QB can do, and that is dodge and juke, and eventually when the game is on the line, be spread out to WR. (that was a cool play though, and if I were JT, I'd definitely use it a lot more frequently in the future -- except there is no more Sr. QB to throw it to him, is there?)

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

I'm more scared of that kid from purdue who lit us up than I'm scared of pryors sorry ass. Any wide reciever would make a good QB if he could throw, but if they can't throw why are they playing QB? I would laugh if tress gets some highly rated passer and asks. Tp to switch to WR where he belongs.

[bluestimestwo]

You guys had better hope he does not leatn how to throw. If he does you will never beat him. He seemed to throw pretty good against Michigan.

The sad thing is that defenses are so afraid of his running that they leave receivers wide open. He has a good completion percentage because defenses all but ignore the OSU receivers.

Frankly, Pryor makes more tackles on his receivers than opposing defenses. His poor ball placement drives wide open receivers to the ground when they could easily run for TDs.

I seem to recall a play against Michigan where he rolled out and heaved a pass to a wide receiver that was streaking down the sideline without a defender in sight. The receiver stopped running towards the endzone turned around and ran back towards Pryor. He eventually made a diving catch, but the ball was underthrown by more than 20 YARDS!

Yes he would be dangerous if he became even a mediocre passer. That remains to be seen, as he showed NO improvement over the course of the season. He also was involved in two close games against decent teams this year. He choked the game away against PSU by fumbling when he had already gained the yard that they needed for the first down, and against TX he was most dangerous as a WR.

The guy is a big question mark.

[1OSUNUT]

Im sure TP's throwing mechanics will be worked on extensivly in the offseason. He does not even have to be a great passer to get by in college. Vince Young was not a great passer by any means. What is really going to make OSU scary next year is the WR's that they will have to throw to. They have several well over 6 ft and they fly. The WR's they have will be very USC like in size and speed. They will be able to go 4 and 5 wide with stud wideouts. That is something never before possible at Ohio State. When you combine that ability with the running of Herron and Berry it could be very potent. So if you thought TP was a dangerous runner last year - wait till this year. Not to mention all this should be operating behind a very good and very big offensive line. Missing will be the need to go to the power-I as much as they did with Beanie. They will still have that ability because of the line - it just won't be the norm anymore.

[tpilews]

Im sure TP's throwing mechanics will be worked on extensivly in the offseason. He does not even have to be a great passer to get by in college. Vince Young was not a great passer by any means. What is really going to make OSU scary next year is the WR's that they will have to throw to. They have several well over 6 ft and they fly. The WR's they have will be very USC like in size and speed. They will be able to go 4 and 5 wide with stud wideouts. That is something never before possible at Ohio State. When you combine that ability with the running of Herron and Berry it could be very potent. So if you thought TP was a dangerous runner last year - wait till this year. Not to mention all this should be operating behind a very good and very big offensive line. Missing will be the need to go to the power-I as much as they did with Beanie. They will still have that ability because of the line - it just won't be the norm anymore.

Oh, I know, I'd be surprised if tuos wasn't pre-season #1 in every poll.


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[BLEEDINGBLUE]

Im sure TP's throwing mechanics will be worked on extensivly in the offseason. He does not even have to be a great passer to get by in college. Vince Young was not a great passer by any means. What is really going to make OSU scary next year is the WR's that they will have to throw to. They have several well over 6 ft and they fly. The WR's they have will be very USC like in size and speed. They will be able to go 4 and 5 wide with stud wideouts. That is something never before possible at Ohio State. When you combine that ability with the running of Herron and Berry it could be very potent. So if you thought TP was a dangerous runner last year - wait till this year. Not to mention all this should be operating behind a very good and very big offensive line. Missing will be the need to go to the power-I as much as they did with Beanie. They will still have that ability because of the line - it just won't be the norm anymore.

Nut, honestly, if they are sooooo good, why didn't they play this year? And if they are freshman I wouldn't hold your breath, we see how good that TP was this year. Yes he has talent and yes he can grow into a great QB but c'mon, saying that a freshman class is going to be scary? Lets get real here.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

so basically nut is saying that OSU is going to copy R-Rod's offense (that supposedly will never work in the big 10) to utilize terrel pryor's talents. funny cos isn't one of the reasons (besides the fat signing bonus) that TP went to OSU is to prepare himself for the NFL? i.e. as a passer.

[rickyleach]

hey 1osunutfuuc ,jamal berry hasnt even taken a stroll on the football field and your tootin his and boom herrens horn about how good they are going to be. that is funny sshit, remember all the stupid sshit you and don worthless said about how pryor fit your sytem and would learn from senior leadership, and the offense ,which was more pro style fit the kids skills, what a crock of tressel that is, you still foaming at the mouth about the pistol offense which is a form of the rich/rod style ,and yes the one you guys laughed at , or did you mean the pistol offense where tressel goes off the deep end and shoots himself in the head.. which one is it.. i can hear your stupid shhhit now, were gonna do this and were gonna do that, just like last seasons make believe national champion , by your accounts thee. or the university of ohio state.. ha ha ha ...

[1OSUNUT]

Some of the kids did play this year - Sazenbacher, Posey and Thomas. Next year they have Carter and Fields coming in. The X-factor could be Ray Small who is coming back. He will not be the stud #1 everybody thought he could be, but when lined up in space or in the slot could do some damage. As for Ohio State duplicating RR's offense - I don't think so. RR likes to use undersized linemen - Ohio State will not. In the Big Ten you need to be able to eat the clock and pound it out on the ground. The Buckeyes will never be a team that is fully commited to a spread like Michigan will be. I expect the Buckeye offense to be alot like what you saw in the Troy Smith years - only with a bit more runs designed for the QB. I think Tressel is smart enough to know how valuable TP is and will not expose him to more hits then he has to. That might be the biggest concern with the RR style of the spread, it exposes the QB to a lot of hits.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

it doesnt matter if tp gets hurt cos ohio state has 6 other 4 and 5 star QB recruits that Tressel can design an offense around overnight. :rolleyes:

[rickyleach]

1osunut and don worthless , spell hypocrit, oh did i say that, im sorry you guys are americans and have a right to change your minds , gee how silly of me you both ripped rich/rod for a gimic style offense and said it will never work in the big10 , like that sshit tressel runs works outside the big10, now your stepping back because you see your super hero pryor is a very good talent ,but cant throw a football, but you guys have what 5 or 6 guys lined up to take over if pryor doesnt get it done, tressel = offense , now thats funny sshitt, the big10 is so weak they still rate your team as the team to beat, that spells another assss beating in a bcs game for your team, atleast sanchez has left so you might have a shot at beating usc next year ,but i wouldnt hold my breath..

[1OSUNUT]

The word is that Boyd likes OSU. That could give us a TP style QB as a backup and or replacement in a few years. I happen to think the future is bright in Columbus.

[tpilews]

The word is that Boyd likes OSU. That could give us a TP style QB as a backup and or replacement in a few years. I happen to think the future is bright in Columbus.

Well, of course you do because you are a buckeye fan. Tuos is always going to get good recruits, same as Michigan. It's how the coaches put it to use that makes the teams what they are. So far, Tress has been very good in the big10, but hasn't won a meaningful game outside of the big10.

UM's talent transferred, and/or never panned out. There were quite a few guys that could have been huge contributors that didn't qualify or were lost to injury. And before you say, "everyone loses players", which is true, but UM has lost more critical players in the recent past than most programs do in a decade. Couple than on top of a decaying Lloyd, and you see why UM is where they are.

Just as you think the future is bright for tuos, I think the future is very bright for UM.

[Silver Bullet]

Well, of course you do because you are a buckeye fan. Tuos is always going to get good recruits, same as Michigan. It's how the coaches put it to use that makes the teams what they are. So far, Tress has been very good in the big10, but hasn't won a meaningful game outside of the big10.

UM's talent transferred, and/or never panned out. There were quite a few guys that could have been huge contributors that didn't qualify or were lost to injury. And before you say, "everyone loses players", which is true, but UM has lost more critical players in the recent past than most programs do in a decade. Couple than on top of a decaying Lloyd, and you see why UM is where they are.

Just as you think the future is bright for tuos, I think the future is very bright for UM.

Tressel has never won a meaningful game outside of the B10? News to me.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

You guys had better hope he does not leatn how to throw. If he does you will never beat him. He seemed to throw pretty good against Michigan.

this is what your saying about your star QB after his Freshman season!!! I know your an idiot but you have to see how that line is not promising. Since when are 5 star QB's supposed to learn to throw after a full college season??? Please answer this Nut, im dying to see your answer.

[rickyleach]

what a crock of tressel 1osunut is, its the same o same o in c/bus ,nothing but false dreams, maybe your block o will show up this season, your going to need every one of them , but atleast you have crybaby boren , i wish his dad would kick his asss ,nothin but a quiter

[1OSUNUT]

He must have been a good enough thrower to have RR and his staff drooling all over him. He must of been a good enough thrower to have RR and his staff packed into a car driving across PA just to watch him. Just for the record he did lead the Big Ten in completion % this year. He is still learning the position at the college level and still managed to whip the crap out of Michigan. You guys might want to scale back your comments on TP untill after you see how bad your freshman QB does next year. He is not even close to TP ability wise and he will be runningthe show in AA. Lets see if your freshman QB leads you to a BCS bowl (or any bowl) like TP did for us this year. I think we all know what the answer is going to be.

[tpilews]

He must have been a good enough thrower to have RR and his staff drooling all over him. He must of been a good enough thrower to have RR and his staff packed into a car driving across PA just to watch him. Just for the record he did lead the Big Ten in completion % this year. He is still learning the position at the college level and still managed to whip the crap out of Michigan. You guys might want to scale back your comments on TP untill after you see how bad your freshman QB does next year. He is not even close to TP ability wise and he will be runningthe show in AA. Lets see if your freshman QB leads you to a BCS bowl (or any bowl) like TP did for us this year. I think we all know what the answer is going to be.

C'mon, I think you're giving TP a little too much credit. Yes, he is a terrific athlete. However, his receivers made some amazing catches for him this year. They saved him so many times. Without them, or Beanie, Pryor leads tuos to nothing. Also, your defense kept you in games. Without them, you would've been way worse. TP had a whole cast of playmakers around him. You make it sound like TP was just as important to tuos's success as Ringer was for MSU, or Green was for Iowa. Tuos probably would've ended up with the same record had Boeckman been the qb.

[tpilews]

He must have been a good enough thrower to have RR and his staff drooling all over him. He must of been a good enough thrower to have RR and his staff packed into a car driving across PA just to watch him.

Good enough runner? yes. Good enough thrower? who cares, good enough runner.


Just for the record he did lead the Big Ten in completion % this year.

And he didn't make the top 100 list nationally because he didn't throw enough to qualify for the list. TP only threw when he had to, mostly when scrambling. He was so effective at scrambling, that his receivers were WIDE open. I'd hope he'd be able to complete passes to WIDE OPEN receivers.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

What tpi said...im not wasting my time responding to a punk loser like u.