is Tate the Great to confident?

[bighousemike84]

I like Tate Forcier. I like him a lot. He is an accurate passer he can use his legs to make something out of nothing and he says the right things that give me confidence in his ability to succeed. Although he also says some things that come off as borderline arrogant. His confidence is a great attribute for a QB but some of the quotes I have read creep me out. Im afraid his confidence is more arrogance and he will alienate himself from the team if hes not careful

Forcier quotes

-"I just have the swagger a quarterback needs to have,"

-"I know what I can do, and I'm going to do it. You can never be worried about competition. You're going to have to compete every day regardless. I have no worries about competition I know what I can do, what I'm capable of."
-Classes, teachers, everything,” he said. “I don’t even have to say my name.” He says this with a giddy laugh, like most things.

-“I just know his last name,” Forcier said. “I don’t know anything about him. My mom’s actually the one who told me: ‘Aw, you’ve got competition!’ I don’t care.”

These are examples of his comments. None that jump out at you as a clear example of arrogance but Forcier is getting a lot of press right now and a lot of fame without ever having played a game. Forcier knows he will have to compete and he is very excited about the possibility but I really hope he doesnt get to full of himself. Confidence is awesome but being humble will help him learn from his mistakes and always get better

[Sten Carlson]

I like Tate Forcier. I like him a lot. He is an accurate passer he can use his legs to make something out of nothing and he says the right things that give me confidence in his ability to succeed. Although he also says some things that come off as borderline arrogant. His confidence is a great attribute for a QB but some of the quotes I have read creep me out. Im afraid his confidence is more arrogance and he will alienate himself from the team if hes not careful

Forcier quotes

-"I just have the swagger a quarterback needs to have,"

-"I know what I can do, and I'm going to do it. You can never be worried about competition. You're going to have to compete every day regardless. I have no worries about competition I know what I can do, what I'm capable of."
-Classes, teachers, everything,” he said. “I don’t even have to say my name.” He says this with a giddy laugh, like most things.

-“I just know his last name,” Forcier said. “I don’t know anything about him. My mom’s actually the one who told me: ‘Aw, you’ve got competition!’ I don’t care.”

These are examples of his comments. None that jump out at you as a clear example of arrogance but Forcier is getting a lot of press right now and a lot of fame without ever having played a game. Forcier knows he will have to compete and he is very excited about the possibility but I really hope he doesnt get to full of himself. Confidence is awesome but being humble will help him learn from his mistakes and always get better


I can see how this might be construed by some as a bit disconcerting, but I think its pretty much par for the course when it comes to big time college athletes, especially QBs. I personally am pleased to see it, but what I am more pleased about are the confirmations that he is not just full of himself, but that he is (at least reportedly) the real deal and has the skills to back up his cockiness. I didn't like what I saw from Mallett, and although it's possible that Tate could alienate his teammates, I think the fact that an obvious leader hasn't really emerged on the team means that most guys might be looking to him to be that guy -- and the faster he becomes the leader of the team the better for everyone.

As long as he's impressing people with his development and his assimilation of the offense, I think he'll be fine. I for one, hope that the whole team gets some swagger back, as I think it's been something that has been lacking in years past.

I have a feeling, just a gut feeling, that Tate Forcier is going to go down as one of the great Michigan QBs. I may be wrong, but I think he's coming in at just the right moment, and will be surrounded by many many fast skill players that are going to help him excel!

I am very excited to see him in action!

Go Blue!

[1OSUNUT]

Funny when Pryor has that cocky attitude he was said to be a prema-donna. Funny how you look at things differently when its one of your kids. Words will not win Tate football games.

[bigboyBlue]

There is little correlation between play and talk for most players. Tate is at least saying the right things. Plus a bit of a thick skin in this business is always good.

[Sten Carlson]

Funny when Pryor has that cocky attitude he was said to be a prema-donna. Funny how you look at things differently when its one of your kids. Words will not win Tate football games.

I've never said Pryor is a prima donna because of his cockiness -- I, for one, indicted him as such because of the way that he handled his recruitment and commitment process. Pryor acted like an attention whore, and although Tate is cocky and confident now, I didn't see nor read about him acting like Pryor did before coming to Michigan.

[tpilews]

I've never said Pryor is a prima donna because of his cockiness -- I, for one, indicted him as such because of the way that he handled his recruitment and commitment process. Pryor acted like an attention whore, and although Tate is cocky and confident now, I didn't see nor read about him acting like Pryor did before coming to Michigan.

Yep, +1. Very nice Sten.

[GoDeepHammer]

Funny when Pryor has that cocky attitude he was said to be a prema-donna. Funny how you look at things differently when its one of your kids. Words will not win Tate football games.

I don't remember Tate starting a fight with the crowd at any basketball games. I don't remember seeing Tate talking all sorts of smack to opposing players during his playoff game. I don't remember Tate holding his commitment past signing day and playing the world because he thinks that he is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

I do remember Tate talking about how much he has learned from Threet and Sheridan. I do remember Tate talking about how he has experience in a spread, but no college experience and that college experience is what is important. So, no I don't think that Tate is like tp. A little too cocky for never playing a college game, yes, but not even close to tp’s pre-madonna status.

Oh, yah and from what I have been hearing Tate can throw a ball. So, once again I would say nothing like tp.

[Revelli]

Funny when Pryor has that cocky attitude he was said to be a prema-donna. Funny how you look at things differently when its one of your kids. Words will not win Tate football games.

Nut, do you really want to compare what Tate has said to TP?:eek:

I think this is just confidence and not arrogance but I understand that different people have different standards on what represents confidence and arrogance.

Legitimate concern... but I think premature...

[bighousemike84]

Funny when Pryor has that cocky attitude he was said to be a prema-donna. Funny how you look at things differently when its one of your kids. Words will not win Tate football games.

Somehow I knew when writing this thread that you would say this and it brings me good feelings in my tummy that I guessed right :p

[bighousemike84]

I can see how this might be construed by some as a bit disconcerting, but I think its pretty much par for the course when it comes to big time college athletes, especially QBs. I personally am pleased to see it, but what I am more pleased about are the confirmations that he is not just full of himself, but that he is (at least reportedly) the real deal and has the skills to back up his cockiness. I didn't like what I saw from Mallett, and although it's possible that Tate could alienate his teammates, I think the fact that an obvious leader hasn't really emerged on the team means that most guys might be looking to him to be that guy -- and the faster he becomes the leader of the team the better for everyone.

As long as he's impressing people with his development and his assimilation of the offense, I think he'll be fine. I for one, hope that the whole team gets some swagger back, as I think it's been something that has been lacking in years past.

I have a feeling, just a gut feeling, that Tate Forcier is going to go down as one of the great Michigan QBs. I may be wrong, but I think he's coming in at just the right moment, and will be surrounded by many many fast skill players that are going to help him excel!

I am very excited to see him in action!

Go Blue!

Thank you Sten. That is kinda the answer I was looking for. I dont dislike Tate I just tend to play devils advocate a lot. Such as the situation between Forcier and Robinson. Which one would you rather have?

We all like Tate Forcier because we have had time to think about him as starting QB. Robinson just committed to M while Tate has been there saying all the right things all summer. I love that Forcier is an accurate passer. Considering the overthrows, underthrows and interceptions of last year I cant wait to see a QB actually connect with a receiver on a regular basis. Although.... in the case of Robinson. We have seen Pat White, Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell even Terrelle Pryor! We see the kind of ability these guys have to change the game and it seems like Denard is that kind of guy.

So what about Robinson then. Do you want a runner the likes of White knowing what the offense can be capable of or do you want a passing/running QB in the mold of Colt McCoy who can hurt you throwing and then catch you sleeping with a well timed run? To be honest I want both of them at the same time!

[Sten Carlson]

Thank you Sten. That is kinda the answer I was looking for. I dont dislike Tate I just tend to play devils advocate a lot. Such as the situation between Forcier and Robinson. Which one would you rather have?

We all like Tate Forcier because we have had time to think about him as starting QB. Robinson just committed to M while Tate has been there saying all the right things all summer. I love that Forcier is an accurate passer. Considering the overthrows, underthrows and interceptions of last year I cant wait to see a QB actually connect with a receiver on a regular basis. Although.... in the case of Robinson. We have seen Pat White, Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell even Terrelle Pryor! We see the kind of ability these guys have to change the game and it seems like Denard is that kind of guy.

So what about Robinson then. Do you want a runner the likes of White knowing what the offense can be capable of or do you want a passing/running QB in the mold of Colt McCoy who can hurt you throwing and then catch you sleeping with a well timed run? To be honest I want both of them at the same time!

First of all, don't ever mention Pat White, Vince Young and Pryor in the same sentence -- unless you're saying, "Pryor is no PW or VY!" LOL!

I would like to have both on the field at the same time to be honest. I don't know how feasible that is (probably not at all) but with that kind of speed in DRob, and passing in Tate, you've got some dangerous weapons there.

Although I like the idea of having a great running QB (and the jury us still out on DRob's throwing ability -- obviously he isn't as good as Tate in that dept. or else other schools would have been recruiting him as a QB, not a CB) -- I think the QB position is and always will be a passers position. I think Pat White was amazing, but this year to me, he was a lot more rounded and presented a much more bigger challenge to defenses he faced.

I am in Austin, so I get to see a lot of Colt McCoy. The big thing about him is how smart he is, and how he put on 15-20lbs this off season and became a beast of a runner compared to what he was the year before. I don't like "running" QBs, my self, I like QBs that can escape and run, like you said, at a key moment by design, or to keep a play alive can be great -- but runners tend to get hurt and leave the offense a bit one-dimensional. Michigan hasn't really had a QB that can do that since perhaps Harbaugh. If Tate's arm is a good as they say it is, and if he is as schooled and adept at the spread as they're claming, I think we're going to see another guy like Sam Bradford -- a guy that will just sit back and pick teams apart, scamper here and there, and basically be a bitch to stop.

So to answer your question, I want a passer that can run, not a runner than can pass. I think the deep threat will always help your running game, and I'd love to see Minor and the other RBs get a chance to tear through defenses and keep Tate healthy and slingin' it all over the yard to the fast WRs. I know there is a place, a very big place, in RRs offense for running QBs, but I think that is more to keep the defense off balance. It just happened that he found a diamond in the rough with Pat White, and it didn't hurt having Slaton back there either.

[gator]

I like Tate Forcier. I like him a lot.

I like men, I like to be manhandled, I like you.....

Tell me what movie and I'll be highly impressed.

[bighousemike84]

I like men, I like to be manhandled, I like you.....

Tell me what movie and I'll be highly impressed.

There are any number of pornos with that exact line so you would have to be more specific

[bluefan]

I like men, I like to be manhandled, I like you.....

Tell me what movie and I'll be highly impressed.

Fletch.

Prima donna.

[1OSUNUT]

I beg to differ. I don't think Vince Young or Pat White led their team to a BCS bowl in their true freshman season. TP led the Big Ten in completion % as well this year - as a freshman. If you saw the Buckeyes practice over the Summer you would of seen what a rocket arm TP actually has. The problem is that practice is not the game. You will find out with Tate that things change when there is pressure on you and 100,000 people watching. TP played very very timid at times this year. He was trying to place the ball - not throw it. He was so worried about making a mistake that it made him look very uncomfortable when asked to throw. As the game slows down for him and his confidence grows - he will be outstanding.

If you saw TP play in high school (where he was relaxed) he threw the ball very well. Im not saying that he does not need some mechanic work done to his motion - but he will get that. I expect a completly different TP this season. As for all the people wishing he would fail or saying that he is no good - again I beg to differ. Once he plays with the confidence he had in high school and he does start throwing better - he is going to be an absolute witch to deal with.

[Sten Carlson]

I beg to differ. I don't think Vince Young or Pat White led their team to a BCS bowl in their true freshman season. TP led the Big Ten in completion % as well this year - as a freshman. If you saw the Buckeyes practice over the Summer you would of seen what a rocket arm TP actually has. The problem is that practice is not the game. You will find out with Tate that things change when there is pressure on you and 100,000 people watching. TP played very very timid at times this year. He was trying to place the ball - not throw it. He was so worried about making a mistake that it made him look very uncomfortable when asked to throw. As the game slows down for him and his confidence grows - he will be outstanding.

If you saw TP play in high school (where he was relaxed) he threw the ball very well. Im not saying that he does not need some mechanic work done to his motion - but he will get that. I expect a completly different TP this season. As for all the people wishing he would fail or saying that he is no good - again I beg to differ. Once he plays with the confidence he had in high school and he does start throwing better - he is going to be an absolute witch to deal with.

Once again Nut, you've hijacked a thread!

Reread Mike's opening post, and tell me anywhere in it that it mentioned TP, drew a comparison to TP, or asked for anyone's opinion on anything but TATE FORCIER!

This is about TATE FORCIER, his perceived cockiness, and whether it is a bit over the top for his current stage of development. This thread is NOT supposed to about what YOU think about TP, his arm, his legs, his head, nor anything about him!

You brought him up, not us, and yet even after we put you in your place about how the two don't even compare given TP's myriad of antics, you still feel the need to let us all know how much you love TP, and how great he is going to be, if he could only learn to settle down and throw like he did in HS, and oh yeah, work on those faulty mechanics of his.

NOBODY CARES NUT!

If you don't have anything to say about TATE FORCIER, start a new thread, in the OSU section of this site, expressing to the world you undying and unbridled MAN LOVE for young Mr. Pryor! Otherwise, stick to the fucking topic you thread hijacking moron!

[blueisbetterthanred]

back on topic...

There is a big difference between cockiness and confidence. Tate seems to be displaying the confidence much more than the cockiness. From all appearances, he looks to have that intangible that great QB's have. He shows a presence that the team already feels as well and is doing all the small things that show he has the right mindset towards this.

I think the best QB's are about 90% confidence and 10% cockiness. You have to have some, but too much and you wind up turning into a glory hog. The more I see Tate doing the things he has been, the more confidence he creates. He still has to go out and prove himself on the field, but the pre-game looks very solid. Only time will tell if the drive he is showing translates to the field.

I think Robinson is going to make Tate even better though, I am even more excited about practice starting up now and can't wait for some new film on all the recruits!

[1OSUNUT]

My responce was to your statement when you said TP was no PW or VY. As for Tate if he was such a great QB - he would of been rated higher. I'm sure he is saying all the right things but college football is not high school. QB's tend to look better in practice because they are used to the defensive players that they are throwing against and they know all the scemes. That all goes out the window on game day. Once a player gets on the field and has to make a split decision in front of 100,000 friendly or hostile fans - that is pressure. When throws that used to be easy in high school are now pick offs it makes you adapt.

If you think Tate is going to come in and just throw that ball all over the field - your not going to be very happy this season. TP looked better in high school then Tate did - and he played against better talent. I'm not saying Tate will or will not be special - but it will not happen overnight. Once he throws a big pick or turns the ball over in a manner that really hurts the team - he will be timid as well. To put the hopes of a teams sucess or failure on the shoulders of a 18 year old kid is tough. It's easy to sit back and pick TP apart from a distance - this year you will do the same thing with Tate. I think its great that a kid that plays QB is cocky - all the great ones are. But the cockyness tends to get tamed a bit when the reality of the situation sinks in. He will have times and games where he looks real good - he will also have games that will make you wonder if he ever played Qb before. Its all part of the process.

[tpilews]

TP looked better in high school then Tate did - and he played against better talent.

You saw Tate play? What game were you at?

[1OSUNUT]

Based on the videos of the players that were available on YouTube and other sites. You guys are making all this stink about Tate and he might not even see the field this year. Last I checked RR brought in two QB's and has two already on the roster with experience. Tate is just one of 4 QB's working for 1 spot. Maybe you guys need to cool off on this kid untill you actually see him perform on the field in a practice.

[Sten Carlson]

My responce was to your statement when you said TP was no PW or VY. As for Tate if he was such a great QB - he would of been rated higher. I'm sure he is saying all the right things but college football is not high school. QB's tend to look better in practice because they are used to the defensive players that they are throwing against and they know all the scemes. That all goes out the window on game day. Once a player gets on the field and has to make a split decision in front of 100,000 friendly or hostile fans - that is pressure. When throws that used to be easy in high school are now pick offs it makes you adapt.

If you think Tate is going to come in and just throw that ball all over the field - your not going to be very happy this season. TP looked better in high school then Tate did - and he played against better talent. I'm not saying Tate will or will not be special - but it will not happen overnight. Once he throws a big pick or turns the ball over in a manner that really hurts the team - he will be timid as well. To put the hopes of a teams sucess or failure on the shoulders of a 18 year old kid is tough. It's easy to sit back and pick TP apart from a distance - this year you will do the same thing with Tate. I think its great that a kid that plays QB is cocky - all the great ones are. But the cockyness tends to get tamed a bit when the reality of the situation sinks in. He will have times and games where he looks real good - he will also have games that will make you wonder if he ever played Qb before. Its all part of the process.

You are so full of shit Nut, and have no idea what you're talking about. Tate certainly will come in an throw the ball all over the field because that is what this offense is designed to allow him to do, and, he's already got an NFL caliber arm! He's gonna have let downs, and there will be INTs, but you're assumption that he's going to be timid and will look like he's never played QB before is ridiculous!

You make these wild statements, as if you're some authority, and all they really are is excuses for the love of your life TP doing exactly what you're claiming Tate is going to do. Just because your lover boy cried on the sidelines after botching the PSU game, doesn't mean that Tate is going to do the same.

Tate wasn't ranked higher because, as I understand it, the rankings are based in part on which teams are actively recruiting you. Tate came out as a Sophmore and said, "Michigan" so other teams backed off. You play both sides of the fence with the ranking system, and its bullshit.

Tate has a better arm, better mechanics, and a better understand of the spread offense he'll be running than perhaps any incoming freshman anywhere in the country. Although he's a freshman, I think the people that are watching him are becoming acutely aware of the fact that he is a very different kind of freshman than has ever walked on to campus in Ann Arbor!

[Sten Carlson]

Based on the videos of the players that were available on YouTube and other sites. You guys are making all this stink about Tate and he might not even see the field this year. Last I checked RR brought in two QB's and has two already on the roster with experience. Tate is just one of 4 QB's working for 1 spot. Maybe you guys need to cool off on this kid untill you actually see him perform on the field in a practice.

Again, the fact that you would make such a stupid comment after the way that you fawned over TP before last season shows what a hypocritical d-bag you are!

Tates going to play, and so it DRob, but Threet and Sheridan will not, barring injury.

[1OSUNUT]

Sten:

You might be the biggest bullshiter I have ever seen. You write your posts like its etched in stone. Who said he has a NFL arm - you ? This kid might not even start for Michigan. I highly doubt that he has the arm of the QB RR chased away. In fact when you watch the YouTube highlights of the players Feagin and Beaver both look better then Tate does. Also if RR got his wish last year and landed TP - Tate does not even sniff the field at Michigan. Im sure RR did not pile his staff into a car and drive around to watch Tate play football and basketball (or whatever other sport he was part off) like he did TP. Just know that your slinging the shit around pretty good as well. What makes you so damn sure a true freshman will fling the ball all over the field with ease - based on what. Based on what you saw from a 3-9 season, please.

Every year its the same shit with you. First it was about the returning seniors and English, last year you were all over Barwis and RR - and they went 3-9. Now its Tate Forcier. Why don't you wait till the F'in kid has a practice under his belt before you make him the savior. So far not one of your so called predictions on Michigan has come true. In fact you and Ricky are completly the opposite in your predictions. The kid is going to have enough pressure on him that he has created himself without you adding to it. Tate just happens to be the multi purpose QB that picked Michigan - not the best available. He very well may be a very good QB but to say he has a NFL arm is really pushing it. We will see soon enough how good that NFL arm is - if he is even on the field.

[BBA1994]

Sten:

You might be the biggest bullshiter I have ever seen. You write your posts like its etched in stone. Who said he has a NFL arm - you ? This kid might not even start for Michigan. I highly doubt that he has the arm of the QB RR chased away. In fact when you watch the YouTube highlights of the players Feagin and Beaver both look better then Tate does. Also if RR got his wish last year and landed TP - Tate does not even sniff the field at Michigan. Im sure RR did not pile his staff into a car and drive around to watch Tate play football and basketball (or whatever other sport he was part off) like he did TP. Just know that your slinging the shit around pretty good as well. What makes you so damn sure a true freshman will fling the ball all over the field with ease - based on what. Based on what you saw from a 3-9 season, please.

Every year its the same shit with you. First it was about the returning seniors and English, last year you were all over Barwis and RR - and they went 3-9. Now its Tate Forcier. Why don't you wait till the F'in kid has a practice under his belt before you make him the savior. So far not one of your so called predictions on Michigan has come true. In fact you and Ricky are completly the opposite in your predictions. The kid is going to have enough pressure on him that he has created himself without you adding to it. Tate just happens to be the multi purpose QB that picked Michigan - not the best available. He very well may be a very good QB but to say he has a NFL arm is really pushing it. We will see soon enough how good that NFL arm is - if he is even on the field.


Wow nut, you sure said a mouthful. Of course that's no surprise as your mouth is constantly full.........................of tressy's wanker!

[bighousemike84]

[QUOTE=Sten Carlson;6664]
Tate has a better arm, better mechanics, and a better understand of the spread offense he'll be running than perhaps any incoming freshman anywhere in the country. Although he's a freshman, I think the people that are watching him are becoming acutely aware of the fact that he is a very different kind of freshman than has ever walked on to campus in Ann Arbor![/QUOTE/]


This is why I get excited thinking about him playing this year. Coach Smith has said that Tate has better mechanics than any freshman QB he has ever seen. We know he is accurate: Sophmore year=72%, Junior year=77% :eek: Senior year=68%. He might not be the speedster that Denard is but he has got to be faster than Threet! He is a smart kid that should make smart decisions. I wish Denard Robinson was enrolled early so we could have some competition during spring practices and the spring game.


How about we just ignore Nut and his lover TP. I dont care about him and I dont feel like wasting my time reading stupid posts

[Bo Rather]

I've heard several people say that Forcier's arm strength is comparable to Henne's. That's an NFL arm. Feagin and Beaver aren't close. Forcier has great mechanics and accuracy. The only thing lacking is height.

[amazinblue]

... As for Tate if he was such a great QB - he would of been rated higher..

Nut, I'm a bit confused. How often have you said that OSU finds great players that are two or three star players and develops them into "superior" players - All Conference players or All Americans.

Just so I understand your reasoning - OSU can do this, but Michigan cannot? Apparently there's something funny about the Ohio / Michigan border that prevents individuals from developing and playing to their potential once they cross the border going north. Now, I agree that Carr and his staff didn't develop all of the talent to its potential - but, how can you possibly say this - and justify it - when talking about RR and his staff?

I know RR and the staff have been here for a season. And one season's not enough. You seem so sure in your assessment. Why?

[1OSUNUT]

We did not say these guys were All-Americans before they even played a down. Most 3 star recruits play their way into studs and All-Americans. Many kids surprise you and are underated - but their stock and rankings rise by the way they play. Not by what they say before they have even had a practice under their belt. Sten said the reason why he was rated so low was because of the college he picked - that is bullshit. The rankings done bt Rivals and Scout are based on how they rank the player in high school. So if Tate was to attend USC, he would be ranked higher - I highly doubt it.

[Silver Bullet]

We did not say these guys were All-Americans before they even played a down. Most 3 star recruits play their way into studs and All-Americans. Many kids surprise you and are underated - but their stock and rankings rise by the way they play. Not by what they say before they have even had a practice under their belt. Sten said the reason why he was rated so low was because of the college he picked - that is bullshit. The rankings done bt Rivals and Scout are based on how they rank the player in high school. So if Tate was to attend USC, he would be ranked higher - I highly doubt it.

I think performance is used for setting the baseline in these rankings and stars or whatever increase based on what schools OFFER them a scholarship. I don't think they move up or down based on where they end up signing. The biggest reason the ratings of somebody change throughout the process is because the longer they hold out, the higher their ranking will be. Uncommitted players and higher star rankings sell more magazines and Inside subscriptions. It's a dirty, untrustworthy business.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

We did not say these guys were All-Americans before they even played a down. Most 3 star recruits play their way into studs and All-Americans. Many kids surprise you and are underated - but their stock and rankings rise by the way they play. Not by what they say before they have even had a practice under their belt. Sten said the reason why he was rated so low was because of the college he picked - that is bullshit. The rankings done bt Rivals and Scout are based on how they rank the player in high school. So if Tate was to attend USC, he would be ranked higher - I highly doubt it.

who bothers to read this bullshit?

[number2]

Funny when Pryor has that cocky attitude he was said to be a prema-donna. Funny how you look at things differently when its one of your kids. Words will not win Tate football games.

Tate didnt string along a bunch of schools past the deadline when he announced his choice of school...he knew right away he was with us all the way...F*** Pryor

[Bo Rather]

who bothers to read this bullshit?

Not me. I'm old-school Michigan. I hate the Buckeyes and their fans. I don't understand reading comments from or conversing with any of them.

[Todd]

who bothers to read this bullshit?

I do!!! Are you kidding? NUT's stuff is great on soooo many levels. Let me explain...First, I print it off and read it while I'm taking a dump! It inspires everything to come out a little better! Then I wipe my a$$ with it.

[number2]

I do!!! Are you kidding? NUT's stuff is great on soooo many levels. Let me explain...First, I print it off and read it while I'm taking a dump! It inspires everything to come out a little better! Then I wipe my a$$ with it.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......deep breath...hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[1OSUNUT]

Im glad I can help things move along - untill Michigan starts playing football again. Then the Sunday sports page will take the place of my posts in helping you with your problem.

[tpilews]

Im glad I can help things move along - untill Michigan starts playing football again. Then the Sunday sports page will take the place of my posts in helping you with your problem.

So, as soon as UM starts winning again, you're going to leave? Oh my, I can't wait.

[osusteve]

Without Nut, this site would be completely boring and merely a propaganda piece for Michigan fans who dream of a past glory that may not come again for a long, long time.
I believe the reason Nut gets under the skin of so many people here is because, deep down, they know that he is more often than not right.

[bigboyBlue]

Without Nut, this site would be completely boring and merely a propaganda piece for Michigan fans who dream of a past glory that may not come again for a long, long time.
I believe the reason Nut gets under the skin of so many people here is because, deep down, they know that he is more often than not right.

Once again, seeing things through maize and blue glasses is what we do, its the definition of a fan. Why trolls feel 'responsible' about keeping things 'real' is beyond me, not to mention they suck at it. Does a maize and blue lovefest really bother you enough to leave your brethren and get stoned here instead?

[tpilews]

Without Nut, this site would be completely boring and merely a propaganda piece for Michigan fans who dream of a past glory that may not come again for a long, long time.
I believe the reason Nut gets under the skin of so many people here is because, deep down, they know that he is more often than not right.

The reason he gets under people's skin is that he adds nothing to the thread. Hell, half of his comments half nothing to do with the actually thread. He's like a retard with tourettes.

[Inflames]

I like men, I like to be manhandled, I like you.....

Tell me what movie and I'll be highly impressed.


Movie = Fletch.

[UM4life]

Back on topic, I dont understand why we expect an 18 yearold to have the maturity of a 40 year old. The kid has self confidence and will learn 'press speak' from the coaches soon enough.

BTW, these threads are difficult to read because 3-5 pages are usually about 1ousnut. Its tedious to even post here anymore.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

Without Nut, this site would be completely boring and merely a propaganda piece for Michigan fans who dream of a past glory that may not come again for a long, long time.
I believe the reason Nut gets under the skin of so many people here is because, deep down, they know that he is more often than not right.

not even close, im willing to put money on our season next year (no worse than 7-5). so deep down i have faith. nut annoys me cause like tpi said he ruins our discussions, all because he has no REAL HUMAN friends to talk to, so he comes here to take out his frustrations about his life. im not even kidding i guarantee thats why he is here sooo much, the dudes got issues. same goes for his little girlfriend don who is no different, he just knows how to spell.

[Bossgobbler23]

Without Nut, this site would be completely boring and merely a propaganda piece for Michigan fans who dream of a past glory that may not come again for a long, long time.
I believe the reason Nut gets under the skin of so many people here is because, deep down, they know that he is more often than not right.

I don't mind Nut here. He is amusing and funny if you look past his smoke screens. His game is starting $hit on this site. I recognize his word traps and easily side step them. We all know HE is a propaganda specialist, the "Columbus Charlie" of the world. I can set traps too. Watch how I get you.
You talk about glory days, I suppose all programs have ups and downs through the decades of football. Has your school been immune to this or do you choose to forget the not so distant past? Your school has reached its peak and cannot reach the Floridas and Texas' of the world or any other BCS school it plays. Michigan however is on the rise and within a few years will over take tUOS. NUT is smart enough to see what is happening with U-M recruiting (SPEED) and this new coach. RR already has some top recruits for 2010 and is taking them out of your backyard. If you think U-M is not going to climb fast, you have very little football smarts.

[Blue In Ohio]

I don't know why so many on here get so frustrated with nut. Why let it bother you just roll with it. Every now and then he even has a point. The whole sarcasm really makes this rivalry fun. I remember back when I was in Columbus I used to read the dispatch every year in the 90's when Michigan won the game every year and I would get the biggest kick out of how fearful they said Michigan would be of OSU then OSU would lay it's usual dud. Let's face it the fact that OSU has a habit of losing big time games is really the start of something good. I'd have to think if we could just get that first victory with the new coaching staff things may change in the series for a while because it's clear the OSU coaching staff does not handle pressure very well. After a loss to Michigan they would feel some pressure. I don't see any reason why we don't have a good chance next year and years after. Next year they are rebuilding and the year after that our team will be seasoned veterans with the system and have the talent to boot. Next year we will stack up to stop Pryor and hopefully have a secondary that won't blow coverage and we have a shot. I thought considering our total lack of talent at the qb position last year the defense hung in there for a while while the offense went three and out for nearly the entire game. If we would have had some offense who knows. If we scored 3 touchdowns we might have won.

[1OSUNUT]

Thanks for the kind words - I think.

I happen to think Ohio State is actually on the rise - not decline. Based on their last two or three classes the Buckeyes are recruiting better then they ever have. So to write Ohio State off could be a very premature.

[Sten Carlson]

...very premature.

No no no Nut, we're not talking about your ejaculation!

[BBA1994]

No no no Nut, we're not talking about your ejaculation!

Or tressy's for that matter, since as we all know, tressy's wanker is constantly in nut's mouth.

[1OSUNUT]

Does BBA stand for Big Blue Asshole ? :D

[tpilews]

Video Interview with Tate Forcier

Available over on Varsity Blue:
http://www.umvarsityblue.com/2009/02/tate-forcier-interview/

Interviews with Campbell, Mike Jones, and Vincent Smith will be coming later this week.

[bighousemike84]

Thanks for the kind words - I think.

I happen to think Ohio State is actually on the rise - not decline. Based on their last two or three classes the Buckeyes are recruiting better then they ever have. So to write Ohio State off could be a very premature.

We are not disputing UOS claim to recruiting fame but I think the point is valid. Considering the talent that UOS has had they still end up chocking in the end. The only NC that the sweatervested ninny has was all because of Clarrett. Otherwise he is just an ass sniffer.

If you arent the lead dog then get the F&%$ out of the way

[Todd]

Thanks for the kind words - I think.

I happen to think Ohio State is actually on the rise - not decline. Based on their last two or three classes the Buckeyes are recruiting better then they ever have. So to write Ohio State off could be a very premature.

How can you consider osu on the rise when they won a NC in 02' and have been thumped in every big game for the last 3 years. Embarrassed in several? With all of that great talent you've been bragging about? That's "on the rise?" Really? Hmmmm...

I think the only thing premature here is your ejaculation.

[mgoblue1]

i think the only thing premature here is your ejaculation.

zingggggggggggggggggg!

[Sten Carlson]

zingggggggggggggggggg!

Hey, that was my ZING, LOL!

Good one MGoBlue!

[1OSUNUT]

We are not disputing UOS claim to recruiting fame but I think the point is valid. Considering the talent that UOS has had they still end up chocking in the end. The only NC that the sweatervested ninny has was all because of Clarrett. Otherwise he is just an ass sniffer.

If you arent the lead dog then get the F&%$ out of the way

In the Big Ten - we are the BIG DOG and the Wolverines are one of the teams that got out of our way.

[Swoosh]

In the Big Ten - we are the BIG DOG and the Wolverines are one of the teams that got out of our way.


The Big dog now is PSU, if you were the big dog you would have one the Big Ten this year(2008):eek:

MI will be Big ten champs in 2011;) Write it down

[bigboyBlue]

In the Big Ten - we are the BIG DOG and the Wolverines are one of the teams that got out of our way.

Last I checked you didn't even win your own conference outright in a year when the Big Ten went 1-6 in Bowls...hmmm...just a DOG then, a flea infested, drooling, mud covered mutt...

[trueblue]

I have been lurking on the site for a while now. Every thread turns into an O$U thread, which is really annoying. This is a Michigan site for fans to discuss the state and future of the program, not O$U.
Back on topic...Tate is a bit cocky, but really, is that not what we need at the time. We need someone to go out there with a chip on their shoulder. That was lacking last season, and the results on the field were quite evident in the lacking leadership. I personally believe that Foricer will step up and live up to his words, or at the very least, motivate the team to back up their young quarterback.

[bighousemike84]

I definitely think that Tate can live up to his words. I think his confidence is such that what he says he really believes he can do. Still I cant help but be nervous when an 18 year old kid gets so much pub this early on. Some kids let that kind of exposure go to there head.

[bigboyBlue]

He might as well, if there is any truth to the rumor that Threet might be transferring. Sigh...

[bighousemike84]

He might as well, if there is any truth to the rumor that Threet might be transferring. Sigh...

What? Im sure thats just a rumor. I cant see Threet transferring 2 years after he transferred out of GT. It has to be a rumor

[1OSUNUT]

The Buckeyes were co-champions this year in the Big Ten. In case you forgot.

[TxWolverine]

Apparently co-champions dont mean shit, remember? You said it about our national championship. DUMB ASS

[bigboyBlue]

What? Im sure thats just a rumor. I cant see Threet transferring 2 years after he transferred out of GT. It has to be a rumor

Unfortunately it juuuuust might have some legs to it. Things should become clearer in a few days. FYI, transferring to a lower division means you don't lose eligibility, so its not entire implausible.

[tpilews]

Unfortunately it juuuuust might have some legs to it. Things should become clearer in a few days. FYI, transferring to a lower division means you don't lose eligibility, so its not entire implausible.

Completely illogical. Why would he leave UM, a perfectly good education, and free, to go to a dII school and pay his own way??? Doesn't make any sense. People need to stop spreading crap. This was started by one person, and it wasn't Threet.

[GoDeepHammer]

I agree, I don't see this happening.

[rickyleach]

nut your wrong again , thats just the point pryor never said anything because pryor isnt a very smart young man, on the other hand tate the great is thhhheee man, havent you figured out why ohio state doesnt let the media talk to pryor yet, it is not an accident , like i keep saying that boy is as sharp as a bowling ball, or better yet he has the mind of a lint trap...

[Buzz]

Is Tate the great too confident.....hell no. In fact, I think he has room to gain more confidence. To me, it seems like he sees himself as a legitimate contender for the starting QB slot, that's a good thing. The only thing I'll say about making comments to the media, is that you don't want to say things that will alienate you from your teammates.

The new coach at Tennessee.....now that's a classless individual.