A quarterback named Montana to visit OSU

[Don Unverferth]

"Coach (Jim) Tressel is an amazing coach; his record speaks for itself," Nick Montana said by phone yesterday from Oaks Christian School in Westlake Village, Calif. "The whole environment at Ohio State -- it is such a tremendous program. I can't think of a bad year they've had for a while now. The football is always great.

"I am very interested in them."


http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2009/02/13/osu_fb13.ART_ART_02-13-09_C2_2PCTELG.html?sid=101

[TNTWolverine]

You mean he isn't a package deal with Wayne Gretzky's and Will Smith's kids?

[Mich97c]

Another useless post from the resident Douche Bag. Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

[BLEEDINGBLUE]

"Coach (Jim) Tressel is an amazing coach; his record speaks for itself," Nick Montana said by phone yesterday from Oaks Christian School in Westlake Village, Calif. "The whole environment at Ohio State -- it is such a tremendous program. I can't think of a bad year they've had for a while now. The football is always great.

"I am very interested in them."


http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2009/02/13/osu_fb13.ART_ART_02-13-09_C2_2PCTELG.html?sid=101

Yea because we all know Phil Simms kid Chris Simms has done so well!!! What a POS. Please, give me something worth reading on this boring Friday.

[Don Unverferth]

Yea because we all know Phil Simms kid Chris Simms has done so well!!! What a POS. Please, give me something worth reading on this boring Friday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIPMyt7PRQo

[1OSUNUT]

Based on the schools that are interested in Mr.Montana - we would be glad to have him. I think he knows how thin we are at QB and how he could possibly walk in as the #2 guy behind Pryor as a freshman. His high school coach produced Clausen at Notre Dame so he knows what he is takling about when he says that the kid can play. He must be fairly good to have the offers on table that he does - not to mention he led his team to a 14-0 record and a state championship. That is no easy feat in California.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

Yea because we all know Phil Simms kid Chris Simms has done so well!!! What a POS. Please, give me something worth reading on this boring Friday.

I went to the same highschool as chris and know his sister really well, he was a 3rd round draft pick and NFL starter before he got screwed over by Gruden after he ruptured his spleen. and now he is ahead of vince young on the titans depth chart, what point are you making? If anything I think people would be happy if young montana turns out to be as good as chris.

[rickyleach]

this kid wouldnt even be looked at if it were not for daddy montana , who are you trying to fooo, he must be great because noone else is offering a scholli.

[The Michigan Man]

ND isn't offering this kid a legacy scholarship?

Is Joe going to let his kid go play for a coach that is totally inept at developing QBs that have careers in the NFL?

[1OSUNUT]

Why would he go to Notre Dame ? His younger brother is a freshman QB there. He should go to Notre Dame just because his Dad went there - I don't think so. As for if his name was not Montana nobody would look at him - wrong again. They play very good football in California. If he led his team to a unbeaten record and a state championship as a junior - he must be pretty complete. Having the name Montana does not hurt either. There is nothing wrong with having the best QB of all time teaching you.

RickyLeach: Look at it this way. If your father was Ronald McDonald would that not make your job easier ?

[rickyleach]

thats a good one nut , but id rather be ronald macs son , then your fathers son THE GREAT JOHN HOLMES

[rickyleach]

montana is not even in the list of 250 for 2010 , although he probably can throw the ball better then pryor ,pryor throws a football like a soldier throws a grenade, lookout incummming, i cant wait for pryors first interview on national tv, dahhhhhhh,,,,,,,,,,, the guys as sharp as a bowling ball

[The Michigan Man]

Why would he go to Notre Dame ? His younger brother is a freshman QB there. He should go to Notre Dame just because his Dad went there - I don't think so. As for if his name was not Montana nobody would look at him - wrong again. They play very good football in California. If he led his team to a unbeaten record and a state championship as a junior - he must be pretty complete. Having the name Montana does not hurt either. There is nothing wrong with having the best QB of all time teaching you.

RickyLeach: Look at it this way. If your father was Ronald McDonald would that not make your job easier ?

Every year there are probably 200+ QBs who lead their team to a high school state championship (taking into account the different levels). So what?

Just because dad is good doesn't mean his kid will be. The name looks good on a jersey - however, they still sell a lot of Gordie Howe jerseys in Detroit, I've never seen anyone with a Mark Howe jersey.

[rickyleach]

hey donny boy ,didnt mo clarret say coach tressel was an amaizing coach, maybe tressel can offer a scholorship to oj simsons son

[Voleye]

Just a comment. I dont know this kid. I dont think Troy Smith was in the top 250 either.

[rickyleach]

i think troy smith was the 8th or 9th ranked qb out of high school , he was a very good player for glenville , he had to work his way into playing time cause osu had the great justin szwick, who i think was the no1 qb out of high school

[The Michigan Man]

Just a comment. I dont know this kid. I dont think Troy Smith was in the top 250 either.

I think the point was that with Montana's name recognition, everyone would be enthusiastic to overrate him if there were an opportunity to do so. The fact that his name didn't help him enter the top 250 may be telling.

[1OSUNUT]

I guess the Buckeyes signed Chris Carter's kid just because he was a legacy as well.

[rickyleach]

nut you dont get it do ya...

[Silver Bullet]

I think the point was that with Montana's name recognition, everyone would be enthusiastic to overrate him if there were an opportunity to do so. The fact that his name didn't help him enter the top 250 may be telling.

Considering Rivals hasn't assigned rankings of any kind to anybody for 2010, doesn't that put your above "Fact" in the "Who Gives a Damn?" category? Seriously MM, you are going to start letting a buffoon like rIcKY leAcH do your research for you now? Since you obviously were talking out of your ass and haven't looked anything up, here is a list of the offers that Montana has received:

Arizona
FSU
LSU
Maryland
S. Carolina
Stanford
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=84137&sport=1

[The Michigan Man]

Considering Rivals hasn't assigned rankings of any kind to anybody for 2010, doesn't that put your above "Fact" in the "Who Gives a Damn?" category? Seriously MM, you are going to start letting a buffoon like rIcKY leAcH do your research for you now? Since you obviously were talking out of your ass and haven't looked anything up, here is a list of the offers that Montana has received:

Arizona
FSU
LSU
Maryland
S. Carolina
Stanford
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=84137&sport=1

Ricky Leach's word is good with me.

I really don't give a crap about what ranking he is. This is a thread that is not even appropriate for a Michigan Football website, and my only interest in this thread is to direct cheapshots at everything associated with this non-story. I will not waste my valuable time on recruiting websites researching tUOS QBs who will disappear into obscurity as soon as they get drafted into the NFL.

[Silver Bullet]

Ricky Leach's word is good with me.

I really don't give a crap about what ranking he is. This is a thread that is not even appropriate for a Michigan Football website, and my only interest in this thread is to direct cheapshots at everything associated with this non-story. I will not waste my valuable time on recruiting websites researching tUOS QBs who will disappear into obscurity as soon as they get drafted into the NFL.

It doesn't belong here because YOU don't have the time to post intelligently? I appreciate a good cheapshot, even at OSU's expense but your jokes are a lot funnier when they are based (even loosely) in reality. If OSU-related stories and threads are unworthy of your "valuable" time maybe you shouldn't come over to the OSU forum then? What you don't get is that your attempts at making fun of OSU for these petty little news items only underlines and highlights the fact that Um cannot brag about anything significant in relations to OSU. So by all means, continue. Maybe you can find a poll that shows that Um was found to serve better food in their campus cafeteria. What a coup that would be!

[The Michigan Man]

It doesn't belong here because YOU don't have the time to post intelligently? I appreciate a good cheapshot, even at OSU's expense but you jokes are a lot funnier when they are based (even loosely) in reality. If OSU-related stories and threads are unworthy of your "valuable" time maybe you shouldn't come over to the OSU forum then? What you don't get is that your attempts at make fun of OSU for these petty little news items only underlines and highlights the fact that Um brag about anything significant in relations to OSU. So by all means, continue. Maybe you can find a poll that shows that Um was found to serve better food in their campus cafeteria. What a coup that would be!

Maybe it has escaped your attention, but his is a Michigan fan website. The fact that the editor allows a section for tUOS shouldn't fool you - it is a section for Michigan fans to discuss tUOS, not for troll rodents to scurry around and post tUOS crap that 90% of the participants here care about.

So wow, Montana's kid is considering tUOS - so f*cking what, go post it on the numerous tUOS websites where people actually care. If Joe has any influence over his kid, he'll discourage him from going to the QB wasteland that is Columbus and direct him toward a program that can actually develop NFL QBs, unless he wants him to be the next great NFL benchwarmer / washout like Zwick, Krenzel, or Smith (Boeckman, your turn is next).

[Don Unverferth]

Ricky Leach's word is good with me.

I really don't give a crap about what ranking he is. This is a thread that is not even appropriate for a Michigan Football website, and my only interest in this thread is to direct cheapshots at everything associated with this non-story. I will not waste my valuable time on recruiting websites researching tUOS QBs who will disappear into obscurity as soon as they get drafted into the NFL.

Michigan Man (Marlboro Man) is a hack!

[The Michigan Man]

Michigan Man (Marlboro Man) is a hack!

Being called a hack by a serial troller? Oh, the irony...

[Silver Bullet]

Maybe it has escaped your attention, but his is a Michigan fan website. The fact that the editor allows a section for tUOS shouldn't fool you - it is a section for Michigan fans to discuss tUOS, not for troll rodents to scurry around and post tUOS crap that 90% of the participants here care about.

So wow, Montana's kid is considering tUOS - so f*cking what, go post it on the numerous tUOS websites where people actually care. If Joe has any influence over his kid, he'll discourage him from going to the QB wasteland that is Columbus and direct him toward a program that can actually develop NFL QBs, unless he wants him to be the next great NFL benchwarmer / washout like Zwick, Krenzel, or Smith (Boeckman, your turn is next).

Wow. I feel like I've read your post before......from about every other Um fan post that I've read here. We don't belong here and OSU doesn't develop QB's. You're really just mailing it in today huh? How many more NFL starts does Henne have than Smith anyway?

[Mike Furley]

I really don't give a crap about what ranking he is. This is a thread that is not even appropriate for a Michigan Football website, and my only interest in this thread is to direct cheapshots at everything associated with this non-story. I will not waste my valuable time on recruiting websites researching tUOS QBs who will disappear into obscurity as soon as they get drafted into the NFL.


classic

[The Michigan Man]

Wow. I feel like I've read your post before......from about every other Um fan post that I've read here. We don't belong here and OSU doesn't develop QB's. You're really just mailing it in today huh? How many more NFL starts does Henne have than Smith anyway?

Do you really want to play that game? OK:

Grbac has more NFL starts than Krenzel.

Your turn.

[Silver Bullet]

Do you really want to play that game? OK:

Grbac has more NFL starts than Krenzel.

Your turn.

I'm sorry. Did you answer my question? You threw Smith out as a bust, so how many starts does Henne have?

[The Michigan Man]

I'm sorry. Did you answer my question? You threw Smith out as a bust, so how many starts does Henne have?

Are you cherry-picking QBs now?

By the way, Henne sat on the bench behind a proven veteran, Pennington. Smith sat behind a rookie, Flacco. How sad is that?

[Silver Bullet]

Are you cherry-picking QBs now?

By the way, Henne sat on the bench behind a proven veteran, Pennington. Smith sat behind a rookie, Flacco. How sad is that?

Oh, you mean the guy that won the Rookie of the Year? That Flacco? The guy that took his team to the AFC Championship game? Yes, very sad.

You threw out Smith, so I threw out Henne. I'm sorry, but I'm not ready to call Troy a bust when when he hasn't seen any meaningful playing time. But if you are ready to say that Henne is a disappointment then I will stipulate the same for Smith.

By the way, since the coach that was responsible for the success of Um QB's in the pros is no longer there, you may want to adjust your expectations for the future. But as any good Um fan, I'm sure you will continue to live in the past. But I will humor you there. How many successful NFL QB's have studied under RR?

[The Michigan Man]

How many successful NFL QB's have studied under RR?

How many did Tressel have from Youngstown St.?

[Silver Bullet]

How many did Tressel have from Youngstown St.?

To my knowledge zero, so that would put him on par with RR. Like Youngstown St. however, I'd prefer team college championships over individual NFL success so while it's too bad that Krenzel didn't make it in the pros, I don't think that defined his legacy at OSU. He's still the guy that QB'd that team to a National Title.

[rickyleach]

thanks for the good words silverdilldo, i find it funny that you bring my name up over the fact that montana isnt in the rivals 250 and that the kid is getting public conversation because of who he is, look it up yourself idiot stick, if you look him up he is listed as a duel threat guy, and you know as well as i do michigan man follows his own stuff, he sure doesnt need me , your just pissed off because he put your boy tressel and the 199th pick in the draft troy smith in their place, you just said it all by stating troy smith is playing behind a player from a d/2 school the very division you tools dog every year, that just tells all of us that your boy who once was taking money for not doing any work ,is not worth 2/sshits, oh thats right tressel let him off , and as far as henne goes , he is playing behind a pretty good qb , i might add i think he was a 2nd round draft pick ,unlike your boyyy smith..

[Silver Bullet]

thanks for the good words silverdilldo, i find it funny that you bring my name up over the fact that montana isnt in the rivals 250 and that the kid is getting public conversation because of who he is, look it up yourself idiot stick, if you look him up he is listed as a duel threat guy, and you know as well as i do michigan man follows his own stuff, he sure doesnt need me , your just pissed off because he put your boy tressel and the 199th pick in the draft troy smith in their place, you just said it all by stating troy smith is playing behind a player from a d/2 school the very division you tools dog every year, that just tells all of us that your boy who once was taking money for not doing any work ,is not worth 2/sshits, oh thats right tressel let him off , and as far as henne goes , he is playing behind a pretty good qb , i might add i think he was a 2nd round draft pick ,unlike your boyyy smith..

I need an interpreter for most of that, but I will circle back around on your Rivals 250 reference. You do realize that Rivals hasn't ranked any of the 2010 prospects correct? So that leads me to believe that you are looking for Montana in the 2009 rankings which would mean you're an idiot. Didn't it raise a flag in your head that the guy would have so many scholarship offers and have no ranking? I thought the kindergarten writing style was supposed to be funny but you really are that dumb!

[rickyleach]

Talk about dumb , ill bet their isnt one michigan guy on this sight that doesnt think your a idiot for spending time on a michigan board, and further more for you to get upset because i posted imfo that is on rivals, and to get upset over it ,tells me one thing , your a ,typical ohio state grad , that probably got in on a 2,5 gpa , ohio state lets everyone in , your school not only in football is still the laughing stock in college sports but so is your university in academics, whata joke you are , why dont you make yourself useful and go tutor your brain of nat qb t/pryor .. You also need to lay off the hard stuff and give tressy a break..

[Don Unverferth]

Oh, you mean the guy that won the Rookie of the Year? That Flacco? The guy that took his team to the AFC Championship game? Yes, very sad.

You threw out Smith, so I threw out Henne. I'm sorry, but I'm not ready to call Troy a bust when when he hasn't seen any meaningful playing time. But if you are ready to say that Henne is a disappointment then I will stipulate the same for Smith.

By the way, since the coach that was responsible for the success of Um QB's in the pros is no longer there, you may want to adjust your expectations for the future. But as any good Um fan, I'm sure you will continue to live in the past. But I will humor you there. How many successful NFL QB's have studied under RR?

Pwned!! Well played SB!!.

[Wolvrin704]

I need an interpreter for most of that, but I will circle back around on your Rivals 250 reference. You do realize that Rivals hasn't ranked any of the 2010 prospects correct? So that leads me to believe that you are looking for Montana in the 2009 rankings which would mean you're an idiot. Didn't it raise a flag in your head that the guy would have so many scholarship offers and have no ranking? I thought the kindergarten writing style was supposed to be funny but you really are that dumb!

If you would care to go to Rivals they already have posted their top 250 players to watch for 2010. No they are not ranked in any order other than alphabettically but the point is they have pointed out the top 250 players at this point.
Shouldn't it also be a red flag that so many schools mey be offering scholly's based off name recognition? Most of the schools offering aren't big name schools (LSU, OSU and FSU are the only big time names) or already have a great QB at the helm( the aforementioned schools already do). I would venture to guess that they are hoping they can develop him to be somewhere close to what his old man was.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

Pwned!! Well played SB!!.

Highlight of your day! wat a fuckin loser. talk up osu all u want at the end of the day your a fucking loser going home to either no one or a fat bitch. I win.

[rickyleach]

silverbullit ,your right i am dumb, dumb to think a simple minded freek like you just might understand if you go to rivals you will see what i posted and why, i guess thats to difficult for you , im sorry i should know better, dont get pissed at me because your university is recruiting a kid that rivals has as a 1 star qb, and not in the top 250, seems like tressel is pushing the panic button, oh but you shouldnt worry ,you have pryor , he can sure run ,he just cant pass..

[Wolvrin704]

I'm just sitting here pondering why it is that daddy's alma mater haven't offered him yet. You would think he'd be dying to go there and they'd be dying to see if the same magic in Montana II.

[Silver Bullet]

silverbullit ,your right i am dumb, dumb to think a simple minded freek like you just might understand if you go to rivals you will see what i posted and why, i guess thats to difficult for you , im sorry i should know better, dont get pissed at me because your university is recruiting a kid that rivals has as a 1 star qb, and not in the top 250, seems like tressel is pushing the panic button, oh but you shouldnt worry ,you have pryor , he can sure run ,he just cant pass..

And you're still an idiot.....you are really going to put stock these "rankings" when they haven't even evaluated anybody? They have evaluated or assigned a ranking to anybody, they just threw together an arbitrary list of "People to Watch" and don't give any explanation as to what went into the ranking? Montana will end up being a 4 or 5-star by the time this is over.

[Don Unverferth]

I'm just sitting here pondering why it is that daddy's alma mater haven't offered him yet. You would think he'd be dying to go there and they'd be dying to see if the same magic in Montana II.

Honestly, I think it boils down to:

a) Not wanting to compete at the same position as his brother (as in make his brother feel bad once he blows by him on the depth chart).

b) Not wanting to follow in Dad's footsteps.

c) Not having that much interest in the Irish (even back in last fall, I remember hearing that he was fairly fond of USC and now tOSU).


For someone who wasn't very interested in the first place, in spite of a boatload of info on ND at his fingertips (two siblings going there, probably countless family trips to the campus, I'm certain Dad could tell him anything he wants to know, etc), the staff probably came together and said it wasn't worth the chase in the end. Other guys had more interest, and projected as either an equal or better fit for the scheme the Irish run.

Its more compelling to think that there's a conspiracy behind it, but I really think its the little things adding up, hard as that is to accept for many, including a pocket of nostalgic Irish fans that are beside themselves.

[1OSUNUT]

I'm just sitting here pondering why it is that daddy's alma mater haven't offered him yet. You would think he'd be dying to go there and they'd be dying to see if the same magic in Montana II.

The already have his older brother - who is a QB. Why go somewhere and compete with your brother for the same position. He wants to go somewhere and make his own name. Ohio State is as good a choice as any.

[Wolvrin704]

The already have his older brother - who is a QB. Why go somewhere and compete with your brother for the same position. He wants to go somewhere and make his own name. Ohio State is as good a choice as any.

And why is that? What is their track record for developing NFL QB's? I would think most PAC 10 schools could offer him a better opportunity for that, especially his favorite school USC. If they offer you guys will be out of the running in a heartbeat.

Thanks Don and NUT for clarifying about his brother being at ND, I was not aware of that info. That does make sense.

[Silver Bullet]

And why is that? What is their track record for developing NFL QB's? I would think most PAC 10 schools could offer him a better opportunity for that, especially his favorite school USC. If they offer you guys will be out of the running in a heartbeat.

Thanks Don and NUT for clarifying about his brother being at ND, I was not aware of that info. That does make sense.

USC? Matt Leinhart couldn't even beat out Kurt Warner for the starting job this year. Carson Palmer has been up and down, but of late mostly down.

Check out this list of starting QB's for 2008 and tell me that there is any rhyme of reason as to where somebody should look to go to school to be an NFL QB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_starting_quarterbacks_in_2008

You can't just look at a school and say that based on their history, I will go to the NFL. That's RIDICULOUS! Coaches and systems change (Um). Steve McNair had a great career and he went to Alcorn State!

[rickyleach]

OH SO HOW ABOUT THAT silverbullit finally got his head out of his butthole and read rivals , hey bullit whatever you say buddy if you want to say all of your recruits are 6 star kids then i wont spoil your party, next time read more of the posts be/4 you open your hole... looooser..

[amazinblue]

...Montana will end up being a 4 or 5-star by the time this is over.

Wanna bet? No way he gets that kind of a rating... He's not even on the radar today...

[Mich97c]

And why is that? What is their track record for developing NFL QB's? I would think most PAC 10 schools could offer him a better opportunity for that, especially his favorite school USC. If they offer you guys will be out of the running in a heartbeat.



USC is pretty loaded at QB but I could see UCLA getting in there too. It's tough to get CA kids out of there. Is he a pro style QB? Not sure he'd want to sit behind Pryor running the spread. Both those CA high schools run pro sets (as far as I can remember).

[rickyleach]

the kid is listed as a duel threat guy and is nothin special ,unless you believe the silver bullit because he seems to think he is.

[Wolvrin704]

USC? Matt Leinhart couldn't even beat out Kurt Warner for the starting job this year. Carson Palmer has been up and down, but of late mostly down.

Check out this list of starting QB's for 2008 and tell me that there is any rhyme of reason as to where somebody should look to go to school to be an NFL QB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_starting_quarterbacks_in_2008

You can't just look at a school and say that based on their history, I will go to the NFL. That's RIDICULOUS! Coaches and systems change (Um). Steve McNair had a great career and he went to Alcorn State!

Oh I'm sorry, USC only sends a guy capable of starting in the NFL about every 2-3 years. What has OSU done at the position? Last I checked Leinhart still started more games last year than any OSU QB, his case is an issue of personality and off field habits which lead to on field problems. With Carson its a matter of team chemistry and recent injuries (In case you missed it he didn't play much this past season and since the injury against the Steelers in the playoffs2 years ago has been hurt more than healthy).

You're right in that you can't look at schools and say any certain one will produce a player at a certain position(although many OSU retards try to claim it with OSU) but going to USC greatly inhances ones probablity of being an NFL QB. Even Sanchez who has played one year is likely to be drafted within the first few rounds. Shoot even Cassell who never started a game for them ended up being a starter for NE this year and took them to the playoffs.

[Silver Bullet]

Oh I'm sorry, USC only sends a guy capable of starting in the NFL about every 2-3 years. What has OSU done at the position? Last I checked Leinhart still started more games last year than any OSU QB, his case is an issue of personality and off field habits which lead to on field problems. With Carson its a matter of team chemistry and recent injuries (In case you missed it he didn't play much this past season and since the injury against the Steelers in the playoffs2 years ago has been hurt more than healthy).

You're right in that you can't look at schools and say any certain one will produce a player at a certain position(although many OSU retards try to claim it with OSU) but going to USC greatly inhances ones probablity of being an NFL QB. Even Sanchez who has played one year is likely to be drafted within the first few rounds. Shoot even Cassell who never started a game for them ended up being a starter for NE this year and took them to the playoffs.

Really, Cassell took his team to the playoffs? Would you mind telling me who they played in the first round or what the score was? I must have been too busy dealing with REALITY to watch that game. Carson wasn't exactly lighting it up when he was healthy this year. His best and most productive years were when the rest of the division (Steelers and Ravens) weren't playing that great/dominating. The fact that USC is located on West Coast (weather) and are able to run a pass-happy offense has more to do with a QB's success than the team on the jersey is USC.

[Wolvrin704]

Really, Cassell took his team to the playoffs? Would you mind telling me who they played in the first round or what the score was? I must have been too busy dealing with REALITY to watch that game. Carson wasn't exactly lighting it up when he was healthy this year. His best and most productive years were when the rest of the division (Steelers and Ravens) weren't playing that great/dominating. The fact that USC is located on West Coast (weather) and are able to run a pass-happy offense has more to do with a QB's success than the team on the jersey is USC.


<Opens mouth, inserts foot>

I had forgotten that NE barely missed the playoffs, my bad. But they still went 11-5 when everyone thought they would be lucky to be at .500 when Brady went down. And all this with virtually no running game.

You can try to spin it any way you want but the fact is USC is one of the top schools for producing NFL QB's over the past decade, UM is another although our run is likely over. You can disparge on Carson all you want but he is still a top 10 QB in the NFL, like I said since his injury against the Steelers in the playoffs a couple of years ago he has been injured more than being healthy. And since you say he was only productive when the rest of the division wasn't good check your facts again. The year the Bengals made the playoffs they barely beat out the Steelers and Ravens for the divisional champs and the Steelers went on to win the SB.

As for the pass happy offense once again you show your logic to be cracked. If that were the truth then all Texas Tech or Hawaii QB's would be 1st round picks every year. In reality they are 2nd or 3rd round at best and never do much in the NFL. Whereas USC QB's have had success more than most schools. And not to mention that UM QB's have had success in the NFL despite playing in the midwest and in a non-pass happy offense.

[Silver Bullet]

montana is not even in the list of 250 for 2010 , although he probably can throw the ball better then pryor ,pryor throws a football like a soldier throws a grenade, lookout incummming, i cant wait for pryors first interview on national tv, dahhhhhhh,,,,,,,,,,, the guys as sharp as a bowling ball

Check out #239.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=2303

As everyone else seems to know, as kids get offers from big schools, their Star Power increases. So it was slightly moronic of you to start whining about Montana and not being on the 250 when the last evaluation was done in January. So now, Montana is in the 250 (and moving up) and a 4-star.

[rickyleach]

that is a token rated 238th in the country and 4 stars, this kid is there for one reason and you know what it is , the only thing this kid will be is a recruiting tool. my post must have pissed you off silver/bells, noone else seems to be talkin about the boy. , besides why do you want him when you have your 6 star backup ,bouserman, that is funny as hell.

[Silver Bullet]

that is a token rated 238th in the country and 4 stars, this kid is there for one reason and you know what it is , the only thing this kid will be is a recruiting tool. my post must have pissed you off silver/bells, noone else seems to be talkin about the boy. , besides why do you want him when you have your 6 star backup ,bouserman, that is funny as hell.

Why are you so caught up with stats and rankings of a backup quarterback? I didn't know a meaningless stat from 4 years ago off the top of my head, about a guy that hasn't (and probably won't) see any significant playing time. You are right about the fact that nobody is talking about Montana though, let's look at his offer list:
Alabama
Arizona
FSU
Georgia
Georgia
Maryland
Nebraska
Notre Dame
OSU
South Carolina
Stanford
What a crappy list eh? As a junior he played in California and led his team to a state title. Sounds heinous.

I am glad for you though, you were able to Google information about Bauserman and caught me in a massive lie about the backup QB.....

[rickyleach]

no bullit i didnt google anything , my good friends who happen to be osu grads and huge buckeye fans got a good laugh out of your post and set the record straight..

[Wolvrin704]

Check out #239.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=2303

As everyone else seems to know, as kids get offers from big schools, their Star Power increases. So it was slightly moronic of you to start whining about Montana and not being on the 250 when the last evaluation was done in January. So now, Montana is in the 250 (and moving up) and a 4-star.

What has happened since January to allow him to move up into the top 250?

[Silver Bullet]

What has happened since January to allow him to move up into the top 250?

Prior to this last ranking, Rivals hadn't really evaluated anybody in the 2010 class. Nobody had any rankings and so I really have no idea what that original top 250 was based on. I brought this up at the time but a few people were already decided that since he wasn't on the list of the top 250, unscouted prospects he wasn't any good. Since then Rivals has actually looked at these kids and also have been able to see actual scholarship offers. I believe that schools couldn't offer scholarships for 2010 prior to the 2009 signing day. I really don't buy into the ranking and stars thing too much since it's just a money making scheme, but if Ricky and others are going to base their opinions on it they should probably learn how it works.....

[Silver Bullet]

no bullit i didnt google anything , my good friends who happen to be osu grads and huge buckeye fans got a good laugh out of your post and set the record straight..

They must be experts....where they the ones that let you in on the secret that Bauserman isn't as athletic as Pryor or did you figure that out yourself?

[rickyleach]

No we arent experts , you are , remember bauserman is a 5 star recruit and you silverbullit posted it, how did you get so smart , oh thats right , we have rivals , scouts , espn , and you as the expert, the next thing you know ,your going to say your boy pryor can pass the football, or tressel can win the big game . Now that is funny..

[Mich Fan in Cbus]

Rumor is Grezety is better then Little Joe..

[Silver Bullet]

No we arent experts , you are , remember bauserman is a 5 star recruit and you silverbullit posted it, how did you get so smart , oh thats right , we have rivals , scouts , espn , and you as the expert, the next thing you know ,your going to say your boy pryor can pass the football, or tressel can win the big game . Now that is funny..

That would be an insane thing to say seeing how Tressel has never won a big game. Good call. You know how you can tell someone has gone through their whole life being called a moron? When that person gets to prove another person wrong and it makes them feel like Einstein. By the way you (attempt) to type I can tell you aren't the kind of guy that's enjoyed much success in life. Dude, I misspoke about a backup quarterback. I didn't think it was anything worth spending a lot of time researching. But please, continue on. I see how much this means to you.

[Wolvrin704]

OSU's chances with this kid are getting thinner and thinner. What are they going to do when TP either gets hurt or leaves after 2010? :eek:


http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/97135-montanas-son-serious-about-georgia?eref=fromSI


Montana's son serious about GeorgiaViews

Nick Montana, son of NFL Hall of Famer Joe Montana, says he is serious about Georgia. He told the AJC he wouldn???t be flying halfway across the country if he wasn't. The 6-foot-2, 177-pound Montana is one of the nation's top college prospects and plays football at California's Oaks Christian High. Montana and his legendary father toured the campuses of Alabama and Georgia this weekend. He has a dozen scholarship offers, including South Carolina, Stanford, LSU, Ohio State, Florida State, Nebraska, Notre Dame, North Carolina, Georgia, Maryland, Alabama, and Arizona. He also has serious interest from Tennessee, Southern Cal, and Oklahoma, among others.

[rickyleach]

i cant see any reason why nick montana would go to ohio state, he needs to go to a school that has a provin pro style coach , and they sure as hell dont have that in columbus. plus they have nimrod calling the plays ..

[rickyleach]

wake me up when montania commits to tresselville, correct me if im wrong ,but wasnt tressel in waterboy, wasnt he the coach that studdddeerrrrd,

[1OSUNUT]

Not a bad list of schools for a kid with no talent who is riding his Dad's coat tails. TP will not be leaving Ohio State early. He will be a 4 year headache for you Michigan fans. He has way to much work to do o be a productive NFL player - he can however he one hell of a college player (like Vince Young) while he is learning. TP is a hybrid player that very well might not project into a very good NFL player at all. Many college players have been like that.

[Don Unverferth]

Unlike UM Tress has only offered 19 or 20 kids so far, so anyone offered at this point should consider themselves "the cream of the crop" and not a "risk" recruit or "stretch" recruit.

After the summer is over, we should know for sure where we stand, and you will certainly see more offers as needed then.

I would love to see many of our current targets commit before their senior season starts.

[rickyleach]

maybe tressel can talk over with thad matta ,about keeping pryor for 3 years , he will be a good special teams guy for the lions ,cause he sure as hell cant play qb, THE KID CANT THROW ,BUT HE CAN PUNT , HIS THROWS LOOK THAT WAY , 8 WINS FOR OHIO STATE SHOULD BE ABOUT RIGHT, MICHIGAN WILL HAVE 7 OR 8 COUNTING OUR VICTORY OVER THE SUCKEYES. MAYBE TRESSEL CAN ORDER YOUR TEAM THOSE BAR STOOLS FOR THE MICHIGAN GAME AND THE STATE POLICE CAN CLOSE DOWN I75 AND LET OHIO STATE RIDE HOME ON THEM, WITH TRESSEL AND ALEX BOONE LEADING THE WAY. SSHIT I WOULD PAY THOUSANDS TO SEE THIS,

[Mich97c]

Saw this report the other day:

Just hours after Ohio State offered Cincinnati(OH) QB Andrew Hendrix, there are rumors swirling that Westlake Village(CA) QB Nick Montana is a silent commit to Notre Dame. Nothing has been confirmed on my end, but the Buckeyes offer to Hendrix lends me to believe that Montana has told OSU coaches he will be going elsewhere.

[rickyleach]

Is that jimmy hendrix brother, it must be cause he must be smokin some heavy sshiit in order to go play for tressy, what is this guy the 99th rated qb

[The Michigan Man]

Saw this report the other day:

Just hours after Ohio State offered Cincinnati(OH) QB Andrew Hendrix, there are rumors swirling that Westlake Village(CA) QB Nick Montana is a silent commit to Notre Dame. Nothing has been confirmed on my end, but the Buckeyes offer to Hendrix lends me to believe that Montana has told OSU coaches he will be going elsewhere.

That means Don will revise the thread to conclude that Montana's kid sucks and tOSU didn't want him ayway.

[rickyleach]

The news is their isnt any qbez going to osu, why would they...

[bluefan]

Montana verbals to Washington. Must be he wanted to give himself at least a sporting chance to have a career in the League.

[Mich Fan in Cbus]

By Chris Fetters
Northwest Recruiting Analyst
Date: Jun 9, 2009

Nick Montana, a 6-foot-1, 185-pound quarterback from Oaks Christian School in Westlake Village, Calif. - and son of legendary NFL QB Joe Montana - has apparently verbally committed to Washington over scholarship offers from Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Notre Dame, Ohio State and others, the Los Angeles Times is reporting Monday night. Montana is ranked as the No. 13 QB in the country by Scout.com.

[Shane Falco]

By Chris Fetters
Northwest Recruiting Analyst
Date: Jun 9, 2009

Nick Montana, a 6-foot-1, 185-pound quarterback from Oaks Christian School in Westlake Village, Calif. - and son of legendary NFL QB Joe Montana - has apparently verbally committed to Washington over scholarship offers from Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Notre Dame, Ohio State and others, the Los Angeles Times is reporting Monday night. Montana is ranked as the No. 13 QB in the country by Scout.com.

They didn't want him anyways. He is garbage. I can hear it now.

[Don Unverferth]

By Chris Fetters
Northwest Recruiting Analyst
Date: Jun 9, 2009

Nick Montana, a 6-foot-1, 185-pound quarterback from Oaks Christian School in Westlake Village, Calif. - and son of legendary NFL QB Joe Montana - has apparently verbally committed to Washington over scholarship offers from Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Notre Dame, Ohio State and others, the Los Angeles Times is reporting Monday night. Montana is ranked as the No. 13 QB in the country by Scout.com.

Well good for him and best of luck. I think the choice makes sense for him. Not a lot of competition and much closer in location. I think location really cost us on this one. It would be one thing for him to go to ND with the legacy thing, but for us (a school with no ties to Montana) location was a major factor.

The kid was a class act through his recruitment and really wish him the best of luck. At least we can start offering more QB's now.
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[hail2mich]

The kid was a class act

That's probably why he didn't choose Ohio St.

[rickyleach]

the kid wants a shot of playing in the nfl , so it was a no brainer , if he wanted to play football after college OHIO STATE IS NOT THE SCHOOL TO PLAY FOR, THEY DONT HAVE A COACH THAT CAN COACH QBZ, PLUS ACADEMIC WISE THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON IS A BETTER SCHOOL THEN OHIO STATE. SO THE KID IS IN A WIN WIN SITUATION.

[The Michigan Man]

I guess I'm obligated now to lament about what a legend young Montana will be and how he was a huge loss for tUOS...wow, what a crushing blow to the program.

[Mike Furley]

the kid wants a shot of playing in the nfl , so it was a no brainer , if he wanted to play football after college OHIO STATE IS NOT THE SCHOOL TO PLAY FOR, THEY DONT HAVE A COACH THAT CAN COACH QBZ, PLUS ACADEMIC WISE THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON IS A BETTER SCHOOL THEN OHIO STATE. SO THE KID IS IN A WIN WIN SITUATION.

I would argue that taking Craig Krenzel (average arm strength, average accuracy, and average mobility) and Troy Smith (severely undersized) - with the former leading the team to a national championship and the latter winning the Heisman and a national championship game apperance - and having NFL teams draft both of them and employ them... that is "developing" a qb.

Is Steve Sarkisian a better developer of QB's than Jim Tressel? Possibly. He comes from the Norm Chow line so I assume he is quite knowledgeable in QB play. As this is his first head coaching job, we will all find out.

I wish Montana's kid all the success in the world. That he chose to stay on the west coast and be the first qb recruit of a new head coach - one who learned from Norm Chow - that's no slap in the face to Ohio State who has clearly cemented Terrel Pryor as the starting qb for the next two to three seasons.

[rickyleach]

mike, dont you have the feeling ,with pryor in c/bus for 3 more years that qbz are not looking hard at ohio state , especially when tressel benched his captain and starting qb leader todd beockmen for a freshmen qb ,that sends a great signal to future recruits , THEY WILL NOT GET A CHANCE TO PLAY AND I DONT WANT TO SIT.. , so if tressel sold out on beokmen whats he going to do with me..