Is Steven Threet transferring ?

[bigboyBlue]

Is is all over the message boards, and even moderators think it might have some wings. Bottom line, I think it would suck donkey dick and would result in a losing season again. I think he is a great kid, and on this team, the equivalent of a veteran now.

Why would he transfer?

1. Forcier looks horribly good in practice, and he sees it coming.

2. RRod won't gaurantee him the starting spot.

3. Friction with the coaching staff, or loss of family values, or too much swearing.

4. Other.

Discuss :mad:.

[1OSUNUT]

Transfer to where ? a D3 school ?

[tpilews]

C'mon, this thing was started by some idiot on a message board. I heard it on mgoblog earlier today and people jumped all over the guy. Apparently, he heard it over at mlive but isn't able to bring up any proof of the rumor.

WHY WOULD HE TRANSFER?

He's a smart kid who knows the value of a Michigan education. He's got his education paid for, he's not going anywhere.

[tpilews]

Is is all over the message boards, and even moderators think it might have some wings. Bottom line, I think it would suck donkey dick and would result in a losing season again. I think he is a great kid, and on this team, the equivalent of a veteran now.

Why would he transfer?

1. Forcier looks horribly good in practice, and he sees it coming.

2. RRod won't gaurantee him the starting spot.

3. Friction with the coaching staff, or loss of family values, or too much swearing.

4. Other.

Discuss :mad:.

1. Maybe, but he wouldn't transfer again.

2. RR hasn't guaranteed anyone a spot. If you ask any coach in football, no one has a guaranteed spot. Even Tressel would say the same thing about TP.

3. Are you kidding me? I hope that is a joke.

[tpilews]

From Toledo Blade


He's looking forward to spring practice where another tough test awaits - the beginning of a position battle against incoming freshman and highly touted recruit, Tate Forcier.
"I think most quarterbacks would see themselves that way," Threet said. "You want to go out and compete and do your best, and the coaches will pick who they think will most help the team to win.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

I think Threet knows he doesnt have what it takes to be in the NFL so transferring now wouldnt make any sense.

[Blue In Ohio]

Transfer to where ? a D3 school ?

Good one Nut I have to agree with you on that

[Rockie]

not true, scout already addressed it

[bigboyBlue]

not true, scout already addressed it

Good. But, what are we supposed to talk about now?

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

Good one Nut I have to agree with you on that

Maybe you two should be valentines.

[rickyleach]

maybe he will transfer to ohio state because they dont have a qb that can throw the football, hell he is more of a team player then anything osu has..

[bighousemike84]

maybe he will transfer to ohio state because they dont have a qb that can throw the football, hell he is more of a team player then anything osu has..

Oh Snap! and what is with the minimum of 10 characters per post?

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

This is by far the STUPIDEST rumor ever. If I started a thread on Mgoblog titled "Brandon Graham transferring?" and claimed I knew someone who's freind Is close to the program, some of you fools would believe it.

[1OSUNUT]

If Threet came to Ohio State and worked really really hard - he might be able to be the holder on FG's and extra points. I doubt he would transfer because he is going to need a good education in his life - and Michigan will give that to him. Since he has zero chance at playing QB in college or the NFL he should turn his attention to education. He should use the school for its education.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

He should use the school for its education.

I'm pretty sure that's why the school is there you fucking moron.

[BBA1994]

This is by far the STUPIDEST rumor ever. If I started a thread on Mgoblog titled "Brandon Graham transferring?" and claimed I knew someone who's freind Is close to the program, some of you fools would believe it.

TomVH on mgoblog seems to be very in tune with UM's players and recruits. I guess he is somewhat of a bloggin' reporter and is very accurate on his knowledge of happenings within the UM football program. That said, he says this is in no way a rumor but has some truth to it. He implies that it's simply something Threet is considering.

[Blue In Ohio]

Maybe you two should be valentines.

There's really no sense in being dillusional about this. Threet did not impress me at all with his arm. He has no accuracy. I hope I'm wrong but if you think Threet stands any chance of being a great Michigan QB you are doing nothing but kidding yourself. Nut's right the guy does belong at a div three school.

[GoDeepHammer]

There's really no sense in being dillusional about this. Threet did not impress me at all with his arm. He has no accuracy. I hope I'm wrong but if you think Threet stands any chance of being a great Michigan QB you are doing nothing but kidding yourself. Nut's right the guy does belong at a div three school.

I don't believe that he can be a great QB for Michigan, but he can help out our new QBs and that is important. I don't see him going anywhere, but I think that he is going to do what he can to try to keep his spot.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

TomVH on mgoblog seems to be very in tune with UM's players and recruits. I guess he is somewhat of a bloggin' reporter and is very accurate on his knowledge of happenings within the UM football program. That said, he says this is in no way a rumor but has some truth to it. He implies that it's simply something Threet is considering.

I saw that tomvh was asked about the subject but I didn't think it was worth reading, although apparantly I was wrong. I still don't see him going anywhere.

As long as we don't lose "the coner" I'm happy.

[rickyleach]

i really dont believe threet is going to transfer , i think just playing last year is more then he ever thought he would play and will be satisfied being part of the michigan program..

[1OSUNUT]

I'm pretty sure that's why the school is there you fucking moron.

If you think for one second many of your football players are at Michigan for an education - your greatly mistaken. Some indeed do attend college to actually obtain an education but a vast majority are there for one reason - football. Like the schools use the kids to make gobs of money, the kids use the colleges as a stepping stone to the next level - so they hope.

[GoDeepHammer]

If you think for one second many of your football players are at Michigan for an education - your greatly mistaken. Some indeed do attend college to actually obtain an education but a vast majority are there for one reason - football. Like the schools use the kids to make gobs of money, the kids use the colleges as a stepping stone to the next level - so they hope.

I would say that the majority of the kids come to Michigan for the education. Out of 85 schollarship kids 7 kids a year make it to the NFL a year. So, I would have to say that most kids go for the education, as for the majority of kids this will be the last football they ever play.

[tpilews]

If you think for one second many of your football players are at Michigan for an education - your greatly mistaken. Some indeed do attend college to actually obtain an education but a vast majority are there for one reason - football. Like the schools use the kids to make gobs of money, the kids use the colleges as a stepping stone to the next level - so they hope.

Yeah, I gotta agree with you here nut. Despite the fact that only a handful of guys move on to the NFL, damn near every players attends college to play football, not to go to school. Most of the kids probably could give a shit about education.

[1OSUNUT]

True - only a handful make it to the NFL. But mant think they are going to the NFl. Then when they do not make it - they wish they had the education. Michigan is not alone - it happens at EVERY school.

[ironhide]

Education, no education? Steven Threet transferring?

He is going no where. He is going to get a great education. For different reasons.

Now go blow choad about your team. You state that you won't suck after having to replace 18 + starters and co-starters.

Here is a hint: OSU is going to suck next year and we are going to get you in the Big House. Worry about that!

[1OSUNUT]

Ironhide:

You're an idiot. Before you make stupid comments you should look at the roster and know what your talking about. Two years ago we lost a bunch of seniors and a juniors - and went to the NC game. This year the Buckeyes will be better then they were last year. They will be not only bigger, but faster as well. I predict the same record oas this year of better for the young Buckeyes - and that will include a beating of the Wolverines in the Big Hole. Michigan has no QB and the defense sucks. I'm not sure your in a position after a 3-9 season to be calling out anybody.

[BBA1994]

Ironhide:

You're an idiot. Before you make stupid comments you should look at the roster and know what your talking about. Two years ago we lost a bunch of seniors and a juniors - and went to the NC game. This year the Buckeyes will be better then they were last year. They will be not only bigger, but faster as well. I predict the same record oas this year of better for the young Buckeyes - and that will include a beating of the Wolverines in the Big Hole. Michigan has no QB and the defense sucks. I'm not sure your in a position after a 3-9 season to be calling out anybody.

And we all know what position you're in nut, the one with your head firmly entrenched between tressy's legs with his willy in your mouth.

[MoellerLover69(LloydCarr)]

He'd be really shoving it in our face after leading us to our worst record in history and then when faced with competition running away scared.

[bighousemike84]

According to Jon Borton of Rivals Threet is "probably gone". That still doesnt mean that he is for sure leaving but it gives a little more credence to the rumor than I originally thought.

I dont expect Threet to be the starter but I would be dissapointed if he left. He is a good competitor that would not only help mentor guys like Forcier and Robinson but would also be able to give them some competition to help breed a better prepared QB

If he goes I cant blame him because I would most likely do the same if it was me. I only wish him the best of luck wherever he goes cause the dude is a player and a smart man that has earned my respect

[osusteve]

If Threet was to talk to any professional scout, coach or GM, would any of them give him a realistic shot at making it in the NFL?
With so few jobs available at the highest level, can't guys like him come to their senses and realize that their best option is to get a degree and pursue a real job and career? It goes to show how out of touch these guys are. But how great it must be to be a quarterback at a school like Michigan for 4 years and live that life!

[bighousemike84]

If Threet was to talk to any professional scout, coach or GM, would any of them give him a realistic shot at making it in the NFL?
With so few jobs available at the highest level, can't guys like him come to their senses and realize that their best option is to get a degree and pursue a real job and career? It goes to show how out of touch these guys are. But how great it must be to be a quarterback at a school like Michigan for 4 years and live that life!

So youre saying that if it was you at UOS you would be totally cool with warming the bench for 4 years behind a cocky young QB even though you felt you had a good chance to go somewhere else and actually start while you get a 4 year degree? If so then more power to you man but if thats me I would most likely bolt. I want to play! There would be some amount of pride in being a member of the UM football team but I want to play not sit. If I can play somewhere else then I would be all about it

[Blue In Ohio]

Ironhide:

You're an idiot. Before you make stupid comments you should look at the roster and know what your talking about. Two years ago we lost a bunch of seniors and a juniors - and went to the NC game. This year the Buckeyes will be better then they were last year. They will be not only bigger, but faster as well. I predict the same record oas this year of better for the young Buckeyes - and that will include a beating of the Wolverines in the Big Hole. Michigan has no QB and the defense sucks. I'm not sure your in a position after a 3-9 season to be calling out anybody.

Now your being dillusional nut. You really think your team can win and be just as effective with a new RB that has not seen the field and a qb that can only run? Teams will stack the line and make pryor beat them with his arm. I think realistic for you guys more like 7 or 8 wins and that's because the big ten sux. Good luck going into the big house next year and winning. Michigan has a good history of posting strong seasons after dissapointing ones. Your qb situation is not a whole lot better than ours. We already know your guy can't play. Forcier may be better than pryor his 1st season.

[1OSUNUT]

First off jackass - if you think Pryor will not be able to throw next season, you're painfully mistaken. He will be just fine. As for our running back having no experience - wrong again. Herron played well in relief of Wells. He is the guy who ran over two Wolverines in the last game on his way to the endzone. Plus, Texas knew TP was not going to pass - and they still could not stop him. I highly doubt Michigan will field a defense better then Texas next year. You make it sound like Ohio State will not be able to stop Michigan next year. Based on what ? A freshman QB and a so so line and that is just the offense - the defense is a joke and has been for years. Just remember that you were 3-9 before you make any predictions. If your going to base the improvement you expect Michigan to have next year on recruiting - just remember who has been out recruiting you for years, Ohio State. You will be better - but so will we.

[rickyleach]

nut you are amaizing , what game were you watching, boom heron is just a average running back , saine is just an average running back and as far as pryor throwing the football, he is just average at throwing the football, pryor didnt do sshit against texas , remember it was beokmen that got your team down the field a number of times and was the key to setting up ohio states scores, do i think pryor will get better throwing ,yes i do ,but as barry switzer ,jimmy johnson and bob griese said , after the texas ,osu game ,this kid pryor is a great athelete , but needs an enormous amount of work on his footwork, reading defenses, and technique, in other words you guys still dont know what to expect from pryor , and the fact that beenie wells is not in the backfield ,teams will beable to key more on pryor theirfore making him less affective, oh well 8 and 4 is not bad for you guys in 2009 , boom herron replacing beenie wells , now thats funny, boom herron is another lydell ross , or mo hall. average at best..

[byebyelloyd]

First off jackass - if you think Pryor will not be able to throw next season, you're painfully mistaken. He will be just fine. As for our running back having no experience - wrong again. Herron played well in relief of Wells. He is the guy who ran over two Wolverines in the last game on his way to the endzone. Plus, Texas knew TP was not going to pass - and they still could not stop him. I highly doubt Michigan will field a defense better then Texas next year. You make it sound like Ohio State will not be able to stop Michigan next year. Based on what ? A freshman QB and a so so line and that is just the offense - the defense is a joke and has been for years. Just remember that you were 3-9 before you make any predictions. If your going to base the improvement you expect Michigan to have next year on recruiting - just remember who has been out recruiting you for years, Ohio State. You will be better - but so will we.

good luck pussy you'll need it with not only a QB who can't now nor ever be able to pass, but a coaching staff who can not now or EVER develop a QB who can throw at all. if recruiting meant anything, USC would win every championship ever, so get over it dickless fuck, the buckfucks will be not good to pretty bad this year.

[1OSUNUT]

Who led the Big Ten in completion % this year - anyone ?

Pryor did. Sure he look scared to throw at time and he tried to place the ball instead of throwing it - but that will improve. Let's see how your freshman does this year. TP was to worried at times about making a costly mistake that he became tenative. You have added pressure when you play on a good team. Many be Tate will come out and feel no pressure. What does he have to lose - he plays for a team that did not go to a bowl at that finished 3-9.

[rickyleach]

so what does leading the big10 in completion percent have to do with anything , i might be wrong but a guy name todd boeckmen ,who i think played for ohio state ,lead the big10 two seasons ago, and look what that got him , your boy tressel who gave in to pure pressure and alum pressure, put him on the bench and prevented ohio state from being a better team in 2008, thats typical for tressticle ,cause most of the time he is on the sidelines with his head up his butt, so what you say nut doesnt mean a dammmm thing boy, especially because your new pussy boren will be blocking for pryor

[Wolvrin704]

Who led the Big Ten in completion % this year - anyone ?

Pryor did. Sure he look scared to throw at time and he tried to place the ball instead of throwing it - but that will improve. Let's see how your freshman does this year. TP was to worried at times about making a costly mistake that he became tenative. You have added pressure when you play on a good team. Many be Tate will come out and feel no pressure. What does he have to lose - he plays for a team that did not go to a bowl at that finished 3-9.

Among starters it was Adam Weber from Minnesota. I looked it up. Thats what I miss, proving Buckeye fans wrong. Actually Boecman even had a higher % than Pryor.

[RealSchool]

I would say that the majority of the kids come to Michigan for the education. Out of 85 schollarship kids 7 kids a year make it to the NFL a year. So, I would have to say that most kids go for the education, as for the majority of kids this will be the last football they ever play.


You must be kidding.

[deltguy2]

I refuse to talk sh*t about OSU....The way that I look at it, they have beat the crap out of us (badly I might add) the last 6 years and we will have a very,very young team again this season. Until we beat OSU, I do not feel as if we have much room to talk, maybe its just the realist in me coming out. I am not quick to judge TP either, yeah his throwing was suspect at times last season (a lot of times), but some of the plays he made with his legs are legit. If I was OSU I would run TP out of the spread-option offense, but he thinks he can be a drop back passer (good luck with that). I hate OSU more than anything and I bleed Maize and Blue, but OSU has had our number for the past 6-7 years and until we beat them, I choose to stay quite.

With the news that Threet maybe transferring, I hope Tate is all that he is cracked up to be and is ready for the lime light...

Go Blue!

[Wolvrin704]

I refuse to talk sh*t about OSU....The way that I look at it, they have beat the crap out of us (badly I might add) the last 6 years and we will have a very,very young team again this season. Until we beat OSU, I do not feel as if we have much room to talk, maybe its just the realist in me coming out. I am not quick to judge TP either, yeah his throwing was suspect at times last season (a lot of times), but some of the plays he made with his legs are legit. If I was OSU I would run TP out of the spread-option offense, but he thinks he can be a drop back passer (good luck with that). I hate OSU more than anything and I bleed Maize and Blue, but OSU has had our number for the past 6-7 years and until we beat them, I choose to stay quite.

With the news that Threet maybe transferring, I hope Tate is all that he is cracked up to be and is ready for the lime light...

Go Blue!


I can agree to an extent, until we can show it on the field we have no room to talk. But they will not admit that the rivalry tends to be cylical and that before their streak started we had quite a long one going our way.

[rickyleach]

thats ok deltaguy2 ,because what you dont say ,i will, i will never stop talkin about how lousy of a university ohio state is and as long as they sling the sshit ,ill be slingin it right back, ,my question to you would be why on earth would you think not beating osu the last 5 years means you cant talk sshit or better yet defend your university , osu is crap and always will be..

[deltguy2]

thats ok deltaguy2 ,because what you dont say ,i will, i will never stop talkin about how lousy of a university ohio state is and as long as they sling the sshit ,ill be slingin it right back, ,my question to you would be why on earth would you think not beating osu the last 5 years means you cant talk sshit or better yet defend your university , osu is crap and always will be..

I agree 100% that OSU and Columbus are crap and I hate them with a passion, but I am a realist. I defend my university when we have a leg to stand on, but when it comes to football we have a lot to prove. Sure we have a great recruiting class coming in, but to think that Tate is going to come in from day 1 and lead us to a Big10 Championship is foolish. I base what I say on fact, and since Tressel has arrived OSU has done a much better job at re-loading at key positions when they lose players to the NFL or graduation. I would judge OSU on how good they will be next year because if TP somehow learns to throw the ball this spring, they could be dangrous again. I dont see it happening, but who knows.

I hope more than anything that Tate can come in and lead us to the promised land, but to think that he will throw for 20 TD's with 2 INT's and a completion % of 65-70% like he did in HS is foolish. Again, I hope he does and I hope we go 12-0 this season, but you have to keep expectation realistic. Remember before last season we were all saying that we should be able to go 8-4 or 7-5, but then reality set in and we went 3-9.

[rickyleach]

deltaguy2, i understsand what your saying , and agreee that osu has been better then michigan on the football field over the last 5 years, and your correct in saying most of us thought it were possible that michigan go 8 and 4 last seasons, i guess that is a good example of really knowing football and maybe not knowing as much as you thought . even though michigan didnt get as good a class in recruiting as ohio state ,rich rod made a statement by getting a real solid class, and from what we have already seen for 2010 rr is going to be pushin osu and in the near future will pass them in recruiting and on the football field, much better or greater days are ahead for big blue..

[1OSUNUT]

deltguy2:

You are one of the most sane Michigan fans I have ever seen post here. There is nothing wrong with loving your university or hating your rival - but be realistic. Michigan does have to prove it on the field. If TP looked shaky at times with a veteran team around him - how is Tate going to look with a bunch of young kids around him ? To think he will just step in like its high school is maybe the dumbest thing I have ever heard. At least you are waiting to drink the kool-aid and you talk with sense.

[Buzz]

Wow, I thought Threet would be starting at QB for about the first third of the season, with Tate being phased in and possibly taking over at game five or six.

I can see where him transferring could be a good decision from a football standpoint, but when you factor in all other offerings, I don't know if transferring is the best option for Threet.

I hope Tate can handle it, but sometimes you have to be careful about what you ask for.....cause you just might get it.

[trueblue]

Quarterback Threet leaves U-M, destination unknown
Angelique S. Chengelis / The Detroit News

Quarterback Steven Threet, who started eight games for Michigan last fall, is leaving the program.

"I've decided to transfer from the University of Michigan," Threet said, reciting from a prepared statement during a telephone conversation Sunday. "I have requested and received my release. I do not yet know where I will continue my collegiate career and will have no further comment until that decision is made."

This is not the first transfer for Threet, an Adrian native who began his collegiate career at Georgia Tech, then transferred to Michigan.

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Threet sat out the 2007 season and played last fall for the Wolverines, who went 3-9 during coach Rich Rodriguez's first season.

Last season, Threet, a 6-foot-6, 230-pound redshirt freshman, made eight starts and played in 10 games. He threw for 1,105 yards and nine touchdowns, but he was affected by lingering effects of a concussion suffered in the Purdue game late in the season, and injuries to his elbow and shoulder. Threet did not travel to the final regular-season game at Ohio State because of a slight shoulder separation. Nick Sheridan made the other four starts.

With Threet's departure, Michigan faces the 2009 season with an enormous question mark at quarterback. Sheridan will be a junior, and little-used backup David Cone, also a junior, returns.

Michigan signed dual-threat quarterbacks, Tate Forcier and Denard Robinson to its freshman class. Their style of play better fits Rodriguez's spread offense.

Forcier enrolled last month so he can participate in spring drills in March.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009902150345

[trueblue]

With the above article considered, it is now Tate's job to lose. Sheridan is the most experienced QB on the roster, but we all know that he does not have the talent.
Most were speculating that Threet's days were numbered at QB, so this is not totally surprising, as he had to know that Forcier and Robinson fit RR's system much better.

[goblue]

Wow. I don't know of any other way to look at this than to acknowledge and accept that 2009 will be another rebuilding year. And there's no guarantee that Robinson is even a real qb. We said we'd give him a chance. Florida was recruiting him as an all-purpose player. Looks like it's up to Tate Forcier.

The worst thing we can do right now is panic. Lets just hope that Forcier is as good as everyone says he is and hope that he doesn't get injured. He's a cool California kid with an accurate arm with scrambling ability so we should be all right. I still think RR will need another year of recruiting to get more depth at qb before I feel safe though.

[bigboyBlue]

Call me crazy, but I think Sheridian starts the season. He did win the starting job initially, and had the best game of any UM QB vs Minnesota last year. Spring practice will give us a good idea of how Sheridian and Forcier both look.

[goblue]

Call me crazy, but I think Sheridian starts the season. He did win the starting job initially, and had the best game of any UM QB vs Minnesota last year. Spring practice will give us a good idea of how Sheridian and Forcier both look.

I don't want to pound on Sheridan, but I hope he doesn't start. It's risky starting a true freshman. But I think it's even riskier starting Sheridan. I'm expecting Forcier to start with Robinson as the backup and Sheridan as third string.

[bighousemike84]

Wow. I don't know of any other way to look at this than to acknowledge and accept that 2009 will be another rebuilding year. And there's no guarantee that Robinson is even a real qb. We said we'd give him a chance. Florida was recruiting him as an all-purpose player. Looks like it's up to Tate Forcier.

The worst thing we can do right now is panic. Lets just hope that Forcier is as good as everyone says he is and hope that he doesn't get injured. He's a cool California kid with an accurate arm with scrambling ability so we should be all right. I still think RR will need another year of recruiting to get more depth at qb before I feel safe though.

Florida was recruiting Robinson at WR but Meyer reportedly had a QB package for him. He wanted Denard to be another Chris Leak

[GoBlue21]

Florida was recruiting Robinson at WR but Meyer reportedly had a QB package for him. He wanted Denard to be another Chris Leak

I thought he wanted Denard to be another Percy Harvin...

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

Nader Furrha should be the 3rd string QB. He fits the offense better than Sheridan.

[GoDeepHammer]

I thought he wanted Denard to be another Percy Harvin...

He did, but also had a QB package for him.

Good luck Threet, wherever you end up.

[rickyleach]

bigboyblue, man thats a scary thought, nickii boy as qb until tate and denard feel good about how to play, having threet leave doesnt really change one thing because he knew his playing time was going to be short lived.. i do think sheriden can help those two guys in some ways ,but it shouldnt take long for tate to pass everything that nick did in 2008. lets face it nick didnt do much..

[The Michigan Man]

Tate will have a greater advantage than Threet, as the other 10 guys on offense all have a year's experience with the system.

I still think that Threet was a decent QB thrown into a tough situation with the inexperience surrounding him, the new system, and the poor defense which continously put him in bad situations. Hopefully he can find a program that fits.

[rickyleach]

thats true MM ,the many mistakes and bad field position didnt really help him much, i do wish the kid well and you have to admire the fact that his dream is to be a starting qb for somebody and who knows maybe get drafted, i think when the years go by though he will look back and feel like he should have stayed at michigan, MM as you know that degree at michigan means so much, i dont know about you guys but i cant wait until our first game..

[deltguy2]

I just cant see Sheridan starting this season, but then again I dont know if Tate will be 100% ready to take over this offense from day 1. I think that we all agree, Threet was ahead of Sheridan as far as talent goes when healthy. He was not good, but was better than Nick. I think that RichRod saw what Nick could do out there on the field last season, and now that he is the only guy with experience, he will start Tate from game 1. If Threet would have stayed, I think he would have started the first game.

I think with a healthy O-Line and healthy RB's (Minor, Shaw and C. Brown) we are going to see a heavy dose of running. I think Tate will throw a lot of bubble screens (and actually be able to hit the receiver in stride) but I also think that the play calling will be limited again just like last season.

Tate's our guy, hope he can live up to the hype!

[tpilews]

I think with a healthy O-Line and healthy RB's (Minor, Shaw and C. Brown) we are going to see a heavy dose of running. I think Tate will throw a lot of bubble screens (and actually be able to hit the receiver in stride) but I also think that the play calling will be limited again just like last season.

Tate's our guy, hope he can live up to the hype!

I think you are right, but I'd like to add that in this offense, you really don't need to throw the ball a ton. RR will use the short passing game to break Tate in to the college game. From what we saw of last year, any down field throwing seems to be a lot of one-on-one, so hopefully Tate will be able to take advantage of that. I really think this offense is going to surprise a lot of people. Even with average qb play, the offense looked great last year (Minnesota, ND).

[Sten Carlson]

I think you are right, but I'd like to add that in this offense, you really don't need to throw the ball a ton. RR will use the short passing game to break Tate in to the college game. From what we saw of last year, any down field throwing seems to be a lot of one-on-one, so hopefully Tate will be able to take advantage of that. I really think this offense is going to surprise a lot of people. Even with average qb play, the offense looked great last year (Minnesota, ND).

I agree wholeheartedly TPI!

I have said this numerous times in here, but this offense is designed to make a QB of average running and passing skills (which obviously last year's two QBs lacked) into a star, and an star QB (like Tate may be) into an absolute monster! But, there is no offensive scheme in the world that can take a well below average QB and make him into anything but an average QB at best.

I think you're right on the money in that RR isn't going to put Tate in situations that he doesn't think he can handle. Anyone that watched last year's games should be well aware that it wasn't that the plays were poorly conceived, but that they were executed in such a bad way, and in such a one-dimensional manner, that the chances of success were nearly zero. When the execution was there, they actually looked good, but it was only in flashes. I agree that even under a freshman QB (whomever it might be) this offense is going to really surprise people.

To be honest, I want to surprise the opponents, but I know they study film and will be prepared to deal with it -- those that I really want to eat crow are the trolls, and the nay-sayers that seem to have an inability to be patient and to give these kids a chance to shine, and have already all but written 2009 off. There is a method being employed here, and it is a method that has proven successful in the Big 12, the Big East, the ACC, the PAC 10, the SEC, and now it is time to bring it to the Big 10.

I don't know why it is so hard for some people to figure this out!

[Bighouse]

Agree with ya. Watching last year was hard but enjoyable. Soooo looking forward to this year. I really like this class coming in. We could see some magic.