Tourney?

[Cincy Wolverine]

So here Michigan sits at 16-10 (6-7), coming off a decent looking win at Northwestern. The remaining schedule looks like this:

Minnesota 2/19
@ Iowa 2/22
Purdue 2/26
@ Wisconsin 3/1
@ Minnesota 3/9

I say to get in, Michigan needs to win at the very least 3 of these games to get to 19-12 (9-9). They would be firmly on the bubble, and I think the wins over UCLA, Duke, and Illinois would vault them in. Even better if they can win at least one in the tourney to get them to that 20 win plateau.

What do you guys think they have to do?

[Wolvrin704]

I think they have to win at least 3, maybe 4 and get on a hot streak in the conference tourney. The committee looks very heavily at the last 10 games or so and UM has struggled mightily in that time frame. At this point UM would be in the NIT if the season ended now. They need to get 20 wins if possible.

[Mike Furley]

i think they're tourney worthy. you factor in also michigan's national appeal and the fact they haven't been there for a long time, - in addition to the quality wins and strength of the conference - yes 3 wins in the final four plus maybe one win in the big ten tourney and you're in.

[Mich97c]

and strength of the conference - yes 3 wins in the final four plus maybe one win in the big ten tourney and you're in.

Stength of the conference? The only thing more painful than watching a Big Ten basketball game is watching a Big Ten football game. I don't even know why the basketball arena's have three digits on the scoreboard - no team could even sniff triple figures.

[Bleed Blue]

Stength of the conference? The only thing more painful than watching a Big Ten basketball game is watching a Big Ten football game. I don't even know why the basketball arena's have three digits on the scoreboard - no team could even sniff triple figures.

I would have to agree with this even though it's not as "warm and fuzzy" as everyone would like to be about this years team. Being in ACC Country the Big Ten games seem so much slower to watch and have no where near the competition level of the ACC. It is what it is...

For Michigan to make the NCAA they will have to do the following:

Minnesota 2/19 - Strong Showing
@ Iowa 2/22 -MUST WIN
Purdue 2/26 -MUST WIN
@ Wisconsin 3/1- MUST WIN
@ Minnesota 3/9 -MUST WIN

They started the season off great and have bombed quiet a bit since...the board always looks at the most recent play of the team to judge if they will make an appearance.

[nc wolverine]

i say three, if not 4. I think we need 2 wins out of 3 games against .. purdue, wisc and minnesota to finsish strong.

we started out amazing, and given another year.... we should be in the top 3 or 4 (conference)

I love UM... just dont think we will get into the tourney this year. NIT CHAMPS though

u guys do realize that we are in 8th place in conference....granted only a game and a half back of 3rd place

[1OSUNUT]

Three letters for ya - NIT

[Swoosh]

At 19-9 we get in.

[Shane Falco]

Three letters for ya - NIT

Every freakin thread. Do the mods around here actually pay attention to what is going on. If this was an OSU site then a Michigan fan would have been gone along time ago.

[Cincy Wolverine]

Well Penn State beat Illinois tonight, does this hurt Michigan's chances, putting Penn State ahead of them with a nice win?

[bluefan]

Every freakin thread. Do the mods around here actually pay attention to what is going on. If this was an OSU site then a Michigan fan would have been gone along time ago.

There are no mods, chum. You're right about the uos sites, though. A while back some dude was around here telling about how he lasted about 2 posts on some dipshit uos site before they booted him. Even when they're getting lucky the pussies have thin skin.

[primetime101]

penn st winning hurts michigan IMO

they are saying the Big 10 will only be getting 6 or maybe 7 teams in

MSU-lock
Purdue-lock
Illinois-lock
OSU-as of now in
PSU-as of now in
Wisconsin-#4 SOS #30 RPI i'd say they are playing thereself in
Minnesota-i think they are free falling, need to beat them tomorrow
Michigan-i think we have work to do

[chriswebber]

NIT simply because they are in the bottom of the Big Ten. Quality loses won't help their case. Even though they beat the big names, they couldn't beat the marginal teams. Had they lost to the big names, and beat the marginal teams, they'd be in.

[Shane Falco]

According to Lunardi last night on ESPN they were the 1st team out going into last night and with Providence and Miami, Fl both losing they moved into the last 4 in category.

[bigboyBlue]

PSU-Illinois yesterday: 38-33!!! WTF is with the football-type scoring???

[bluefan]

PSU-Illinois yesterday: 38-33!!! WTF is with the football-type scoring???

Srsly? That's high school girls b-ball scores - at half time. WTF?

[bigboyBlue]

Srsly? That's high school girls b-ball scores - at half time. WTF?

Srsly!! I'm beginning to think there really is something to this Midwest corn-fed kids thing. They're great at 3 yards n dust, concussion-inducing BBall, and wrestling.

[blueisbetterthanred]

If this keeps up your going to start seeing over/unders coming out of vegas at 75 for big 10 games...

now THAT would be funny. :p

[The Michigan Man]

Three letters for ya - NIT

Exactly why is tUOS even being considered for the big tourney? Who have they beat out of conference? Samford, Iona, Jacksonville? Wins against crap teams like ND and Miami who are unranked? An appalling 76-48 destruction at the hands of WV - at home?

tUOS has a padded record because of a cupcake schedule - at only 7-6 in the conference and no signature / quality wins (or losses), this team is pathetically overrated and in all fairness should be heading to the NIT.

[RealSchool]

Every freakin thread. Do the mods around here actually pay attention to what is going on. If this was an OSU site then a Michigan fan would have been gone along time ago.


Mods? What fucking mods? fuck shit cunt piss god damn. See, this post will last forever.

[chriswebber]

Exactly why is tUOS even being considered for the big tourney? Who have they beat out of conference? Samford, Iona, Jacksonville? Wins against crap teams like ND and Miami who are unranked? An appalling 76-48 destruction at the hands of WV - at home?

tUOS has a padded record because of a cupcake schedule - at only 7-6 in the conference and no signature / quality wins (or losses), this team is pathetically overrated and in all fairness should be heading to the NIT.

1. Both schools padded their schedule.
2. UM split with Duke and beat UCLA
3. OSU beat UM both times. Michigan is 7-6 in the Big Ten
4. OSU has good tournie runs. Michigan hasn't legally been in the tournie for a decade.
5. There are no such things as quality loser. A loss is a loss. When schools talk about quality loses, their program is down majorly. If Duke lost to NC by 2 is that a quality loss?
6. Honestly, don't let either in, let another Davidson in.

[The Michigan Man]

1. Both schools padded their schedule.
2. UM split with Duke and beat UCLA
3. OSU beat UM both times. Michigan is 7-6 in the Big Ten
4. OSU has good tournie runs. Michigan hasn't legally been in the tournie for a decade.
5. There are no such things as quality loser. A loss is a loss. When schools talk about quality loses, their program is down majorly. If Duke lost to NC by 2 is that a quality loss?
6. Honestly, don't let either in, let another Davidson in.

1) Michigan playing 4 top 5 teams (Duke twice) is not "padding their schedule". Are you sure you understand what I mean by "padding"??
2) See item 1. Beating 2 top 5 teams is something that no other team in the Big 10 has done this year.
3) This isn't a rivalry comparison, this is analyzing the resume of tUOS and Michigan and determining which team (if any) deserve to be in the NCAA tourney. tUOS won't get in just because they beat Michigan twice. tUOS is 7-6 in the Big 10, Michigan is 7-7 - currently, there is not a difference in terms of conference records.
4) Doesn't necessarily matter what has happened over the past 5-10 years. If tUOS or Michigan get in, they will be a 14-16 seed - Michigan has shown the potential to knock off a 1-3 seed in beating Duke and UCLA, which I think the selection committee will find interesting, as the potential for upsets is what really drives early round interest
5) There is absolutely such a thing as a quality loss in terms of how the selection committee chooses teams (I'm not talking about analyzing in terms of the "state of the program"). Michigan looked very respectable on national TV in losing to UConn, and that matters. tUOS looked horrible in losing to WV. Are you telling me that both of those losses had the same impact on perception?
6) I can live with that - my point in my earlier post is: if Michigan doesn't have a viable tourney resume, than most certainly tUOS doesn't. There isn't one quality effort on tUOS' record outside of conference play, and teams shouldn't be rewarded with tourney selection for playing nothing but ringers out of conference.

[chriswebber]

The best way to tell if one team is better then another is to play them head to head. OSU has both victories.

The Duke win is not that big of a deal anymore. Duke is proving to be streaky this year.

UCLA is now ranked at 20. Obviously, they were over ranked when they played Michigan.

Beating Illinois, Purdue, Michigan State would give the program more points then beating UCLA. For UCLA, Michigan was an off game. Beating a Big Ten opponent who is ranked would be better for their resume.

Keep them both out!

[bluefan]

Mods? What fucking mods? fuck shit cunt piss god damn. See, this post will last forever.

Why do I find this so hilarious? Awesome.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

Three letters for ya - NIT

you're going to eat these words when OSU is in the NIT you fucking loser.

[ronleflore]

So here Michigan sits at 16-10 (6-7), coming off a decent looking win at Northwestern. The remaining schedule looks like this:

Minnesota 2/19
@ Iowa 2/22
Purdue 2/26
@ Wisconsin 3/1
@ Minnesota 3/9

I say to get in, Michigan needs to win at the very least 3 of these games to get to 19-12 (9-9). They would be firmly on the bubble, and I think the wins over UCLA, Duke, and Illinois would vault them in. Even better if they can win at least one in the tourney to get them to that 20 win plateau.

What do you guys think they have to do?

Things were looking really good until Iowa. I figure at best we go 1-2 over the last three games, with Boilers (H) badgers (A) and Gophers(A). That would make us about eight in the big ten, 8-10 record in the Big ten and 18 wins overall. The Duke win was big, but UCLA is fading. Problem is other teams ahead have good top 20 wins also. Penn State beat Purdue, Illinois and MSU. There is always hope, but honestly, its fading fast. I think our only legit chance is to win the Big Ten tourney!

[Bleed Blue]

At this point we need to honestly win all 3 games and have a strong appearance in the Big Ten Tourney.

We looked pathetic against Iowa and thats going to be a hard one to over look if I were on the selection committee.

[amazinblue]

At this point we need to honestly win all 3 games and have a strong appearance in the Big Ten Tourney.

We looked pathetic against Iowa and thats going to be a hard one to over look if I were on the selection committee.

BleedBlue,

I think your assessment is pretty accurate. I don't know if we looked pathetic, but we certainly didn't play anywhere near our potential.

Three in a row... one at a time...

[Bighouse]

I haven't figured this team out yet. :confused: