MSU got the shaft...but it's not surprising.

[Plus 1]

Why in the world is Michgan going to the Sugar Bowl ahead of MSU? Both have 10 wins and MSU BEAT MICHIGAN. ????
This BCS gets weirder and weirder every year.

Alabama and LSU played a close game and Alabama only fell from #2 to #3. ...so why did MSU fall so far. MSU and Wisconsin game was just as close.....PLUS MSU beat Michigan.

Hokie :cool: must have some pull somewhere?

Michigan State is the runner up in the Big Ten, they went to the BT championship game ....so where did Michigan come from, having LOST to MSU ???:rolleyes:

It's all a JOKE.

[rickyleach]

Why in the world is Michgan going to the Sugar Bowl ahead of MSU? Both have 10 wins and MSU BEAT MICHIGAN. ????
This BCS gets weirder and weirder every year.

Alabama and LSU played a close game and Alabama only fell from #2 to #3. ...so why did MSU fall so far. MSU and Wisconsin game was just as close.....PLUS MSU beat Michigan.

Hokie :cool: must have some pull somewhere?

Michigan State is the runner up in the Big Ten, they went to the BT championship game ....so where did Michigan come from, having LOST to MSU ???:rolleyes:

It's all a JOKE.

AND YOUR JUST FIGURING THIS OUT... LOL . LITTLE BROTHER DOESNT DESERVE TO GO EITHER. but as we all know what a sham the bcs is. does it really surprise you. michigan will represent the b10 against a very tough team vagina tech. i sure hope we stick it to them....

[The Michigan Man]

Why in the world is Michgan going to the Sugar Bowl ahead of MSU? Both have 10 wins and MSU BEAT MICHIGAN. ????
This BCS gets weirder and weirder every year.

Alabama and LSU played a close game and Alabama only fell from #2 to #3. ...so why did MSU fall so far. MSU and Wisconsin game was just as close.....PLUS MSU beat Michigan.

Hokie :cool: must have some pull somewhere?

Michigan State is the runner up in the Big Ten, they went to the BT championship game ....so where did Michigan come from, having LOST to MSU ???:rolleyes:

It's all a JOKE.

I feel no sympathy for MSU - I will never forgive them for tampering with the clock to beat UM in 2001, so any injustices they suffer are well deserved. Suck it up, little brother

[byebyelloyd]

Why in the world is Michgan going to the Sugar Bowl ahead of MSU? Both have 10 wins and MSU BEAT MICHIGAN. ????
This BCS gets weirder and weirder every year.

Alabama and LSU played a close game and Alabama only fell from #2 to #3. ...so why did MSU fall so far. MSU and Wisconsin game was just as close.....PLUS MSU beat Michigan.

Hokie :cool: must have some pull somewhere?

Michigan State is the runner up in the Big Ten, they went to the BT championship game ....so where did Michigan come from, having LOST to MSU ???:rolleyes:

It's all a JOKE.

Butthurt much Putz? Michigan beat both teams that curb stomped msu and didn't lose 3 times. Simple math 3>2. Maybe in 7-8 years when osu fields a fully eligible, unpaid team, they can get close to a big bowl game and you can comment, until then, come to grips with being a hypocrite and a troll headed to burn in hell.

[Sten Carlson]

Why in the world is Michgan going to the Sugar Bowl ahead of MSU? Both have 10 wins and MSU BEAT MICHIGAN. ????
This BCS gets weirder and weirder every year.

Alabama and LSU played a close game and Alabama only fell from #2 to #3. ...so why did MSU fall so far. MSU and Wisconsin game was just as close.....PLUS MSU beat Michigan.

Hokie :cool: must have some pull somewhere?

Michigan State is the runner up in the Big Ten, they went to the BT championship game ....so where did Michigan come from, having LOST to MSU ???:rolleyes:

It's all a JOKE.



Plus 1,

I think your question is legitimate and the answer is something that most people don't want to hear and is along the lines of what Ricky said, just not as cocky.

Contrary to popular belief, the BCS is NOT a playoff system, it is ONLY under contract to place the #1 and #2 teams in the NC Game. There is a convoluted formula about who can become eligible but the bottom line is that Michigan is a very popular team around the nation, whose alumni travel, and who people will tune into watch on tv. Why not Michigan State when Michigan State beat Michigan heads to head? Well, based upon what I said above, because the owners of the Sugar Bowl game didn't think that they'd make as much money with MSU as they would with Michigan State -- simple economics.

I've been posting my disgust with the way the polls work all season, especially of late. I highlighted how Oklahoma lost to two unranked teams and was STILL ranked in the top 10, and how Michigan beat Ohio and WENT DOWN. Bottom line is, if your team is one of the "favored few" you can do no wrong, while other teams, it is seems can do everything right, have one stumble, and go sliding down the polls like their asses are greased.

I think what is funny is that Michigan State was so quick to start their spurned whining to the media. Cousins is still in his pads and he's taking a stab at Michigan with his, "stay home on the couch..." comment. Michigan didn't make the decision, the people that own the Sugar Bowl did. Sparty never ceases show the public their inferiority complex towards Michigan.

Lastly, I think most people that have been watching the Big10 think that Michigan is really an up and coming team, and that if MSU and Michigan were to play again, the outcome might well be different. Don't be surprised to see Michigan beat VT in convincing fashion, then carry that momentum into a top 10 preseason ranking for the 2012 season.

[Wolvrin704]

Why in the world is Michgan going to the Sugar Bowl ahead of MSU? Both have 10 wins and MSU BEAT MICHIGAN. ????
This BCS gets weirder and weirder every year.

Alabama and LSU played a close game and Alabama only fell from #2 to #3. ...so why did MSU fall so far. MSU and Wisconsin game was just as close.....PLUS MSU beat Michigan.

Hokie :cool: must have some pull somewhere?

Michigan State is the runner up in the Big Ten, they went to the BT championship game ....so where did Michigan come from, having LOST to MSU ???:rolleyes:

It's all a JOKE.

Let me lay it out for ya....

1) UM is in the top 14, MSU is not. Before you cry about that again remember UM dropped a spot after beating OSU. That shows an anti-B1G bias in the BCS, not a pro-UM bias.
2) The BCS is NOT a playoff system. Its an agreement by the AQ conferences to put the #1 and #2 ranked teams in a bowl games as the fans cried about back in the late 90's, remember the 1997 split NC? That's what got it started.
3) MSU had 3 losses. Sorry but a 3 loss team shouldn't be in the BCS. Several other teams would have been a preferrable selection over them.
4) Losing the conference championship.....you're crying over spilled milk here. All MSU had to do was take care of business and win. Ohio beat Wiscy, why aren't they in a BCS bowl?
5) If this had happened to UM would you be on here having our back and defending us being passed over? No you would not. Stop pretending like you care.

[CALLEGER]

Let me lay it out for ya....

1) UM is in the top 14, MSU is not. Before you cry about that again remember UM dropped a spot after beating OSU. That shows an anti-B1G bias in the BCS, not a pro-UM bias.
2) The BCS is NOT a playoff system. Its an agreement by the AQ conferences to put the #1 and #2 ranked teams in a bowl games as the fans cried about back in the late 90's, remember the 1997 split NC? That's what got it started.
3) MSU had 3 losses. Sorry but a 3 loss team shouldn't be in the BCS. Several other teams would have been a preferrable selection over them.
4) Losing the conference championship.....you're crying over spilled milk here. All MSU had to do was take care of business and win. Ohio beat Wiscy, why aren't they in a BCS bowl?
5) If this had happened to UM would you be on here having our back and defending us being passed over? No you would not. Stop pretending like you care.

Also, to add on, Big Ten analysts have been warning all season to expect the loser of the title game to drop to "third best team" status. It's one of the drawbacks of a championship game.

[Sten Carlson]

Something that Sparty Nation and people like Plus 1 are overlooking is that MSU didn't deserve to play in a BCS bowl because they had three losses, and because those losses they weren't ranked in the top 14. If a team is not ranked in the top 14, they cannot be selected for a BCS Bowl game -- 10-2 > 10-3.

Sparty is acting like the Sugar Bowl had a choice between MSU and Michigan and chose Michigan. MSU fans have very little reason at all to be upset that they didn't get a BCS bowl. Actually, if Sparty had any intelligence -- and that is a HUGE IF -- they'd understand that Michigan getting into the Sugar Bowl actually HELPED them get into a better bowl game than if Michigan weren't in a BCS Bowl because both team would then be competing for spots in the same bowl games.

Stupid Sparty thinks that Michigan's success came at Sparty's expense, and nothing could be more false -- their failure came because they lost to Wisconsin.

Typical Sparty -- and Buckeyes -- everything is about their inferiority complex.

[MAIZEandBLUEsuedeshoes]

Cuz we are the better team. Seems like everyone beat everybody in the Big Ten this year. This team beat that team, and the team that lost beat the team that beat you. Probably one of the most crazy seasons in the conference in awhile. I wish there was a playoff now more than ever, I guarantee we'd win the rematch against our little bro. I'm gonna laugh when we beat MSU, ND, and Ohio at the shoe next year....

Enjoy the next year ohio.

[rickyleach]

Cuz we are the better team. Seems like everyone beat everybody in the Big Ten this year. This team beat that team, and the team that lost beat the team that beat you. Probably one of the most crazy seasons in the conference in awhile. I wish there was a playoff now more than ever, I guarantee we'd win the rematch against our little bro. I'm gonna laugh when we beat MSU, ND, and Ohio at the shoe next year....

Enjoy the next year ohio.

FROM THE LATEST TWEET FROM MIKE HART . especially after hearing kurt cousins crying about michigan sitting home on the couch while we play and they go to the bcs. its not fair . oh MIKE HARTS RESPOSE TO MSU AND COUSINS WAS kids will be kids. I HOPE THEY SHOW THAT TO DICKTONIO AND HE FUMES ABOUT IT ALL YEAR . AFTER WE HAND LITTLE BROTHER HIS ASS THINGS WILL START TO FALL BACK INTO PLACE.....

[mgoblue109901]

While it is a joke, once you understand the rules it makes some sense.

#1 Once the BCS produces the 1 vs. 2 match ups and satisfies the AQs, it is up to the individual bowls to select who they want from the qualifying pool. Deserve has nothing to do with it. Who beat whom has nothing to do with it.

#2 Michigan puts people in hotels, butts in seats, and eyeballs on TVs.

I'd venture a guess that even if MSU had qualified in the top 14, they would not have been selected. They are simply not as big a draw as big brother.

[Welding Engineer]

To exemplify the MSU situation look at Boise St;

Boise St. is ranked (BCS) #7 and is 11-1 with their one loss (36 to 35) coming to the conference champ TCU who is ranked #18 and is 10-2. While Boise St. goes to the Macco Bowl in Las Vegas Dec 22'nd to play 6-6 Arizona St. all these other teams with worse records are going to much better bowls;

Cotton Bowl
Kansas ST 10-2
Arkansas 10-2

Rose Bowl
Wisconsin 11-2
Oregon 11-2

Sugar Bowl
Michigan 10-2
Vagina Tech 11-2

Orange Bowl
West Vagina 9-3
Clemson 10-3

Then there's the Capitol One bowl, the Outback Bowl, etc.... Outside of Number 1 and Number 2 it is simply a popularity contest with no further meaning.

[The Michigan Man]

Vagina Tech 11-2


Haha, that cracked me up!

[Swoosh]

To exemplify the MSU situation look at Boise St;

Boise St. is ranked (BCS) #7 and is 11-1 with their one loss (36 to 35) coming to the conference champ TCU who is ranked #18 and is 10-2. While Boise St. goes to the Macco Bowl in Las Vegas Dec 22'nd to play 6-6 Arizona St. all these other teams with worse records are going to much better bowls;

Cotton Bowl
Kansas ST 10-2
Arkansas 10-2

Rose Bowl
Wisconsin 11-2
Oregon 11-2

Sugar Bowl
Michigan 10-2
Vagina Tech 11-2

Orange Bowl
West Vagina 9-3
Clemson 10-3

Then there's the Capitol One bowl, the Outback Bowl, etc.... Outside of Number 1 and Number 2 it is simply a popularity contest with no further meaning.

Why do you think Ohio is in the gator bowl, LOL

[The Michigan Man]

Why do you think Ohio is in the gator bowl, LOL

Its a huge strategic blunder not to self-impose a bowl ban for tUOS this year.

The NCAA will most certainly impose a bowl ban; but they obviously won't derail this one. So if all of the tUOS fantasies came true and Meyer delivered a solid season and a quality bowl selection in 2012, tUOS would have to sit out that one rather than this piece of crap they got this year that no one cares about. This will effect revenue and recruiting. Typical mismanagement and failure to see the big picture by tUOS, and I love it.

[Welding Engineer]

Its a huge strategic blunder not to self-impose a bowl ban for tUOS this year.

The NCAA will most certainly impose a bowl ban; but they obviously won't derail this one. So if all of the tUOS fantasies came true and Meyer delivered a solid season and a quality bowl selection in 2012, tUOS would have to sit out that one rather than this piece of crap they got this year that no one cares about. This will effect revenue and recruiting. Typical mismanagement and failure to see the big picture by tUOS, and I love it.

There's been several ESPN articles that have talked about this. Self imposing a bowl ban is counter to OSU's defense that the incidents are isolated and the individuals need punishing not the university. The failure to monitor charge isn't going to cause the university to change direction at this late hour and display ownership. (The scholarship reduction was a token aknowledgement of the charge in my eyes.) A self imposed bowl ban isn't going to happen no matter how much sense it may make. For all the same reasons OSU still has the same AD and compliance department. OSU is going to ride this out and cross their fingers.

I still hope the athletic department gets gutted with blowtorch.

[Wolvrin704]

There's been several ESPN articles that have talked about this. Self imposing a bowl ban is counter to OSU's defense that the incidents are isolated and the individuals need punishing not the university. The failure to monitor charge isn't going to cause the university to change direction at this late hour and display ownership. (The scholarship reduction was a token aknowledgement of the charge in my eyes.) A self imposed bowl ban isn't going to happen no matter how much sense it may make. For all the same reasons OSU still has the same AD and compliance department. OSU is going to ride this out and cross their fingers.

I still hope the athletic department gets gutted with blowtorch.

Yep, they've put themselves in quite the pickle. In order to lessen the severity of sanctions a self-imposed ban would have been advisable but that would be admitting guilt which is counter to their defense. But in not doing so they are rolling the dice that Urban Liar may not a have bowl game to take his kids to next year and will miss out on those practices. Gutsy move, hope it backfires on them.

Honestly, I agree the entire AD and compliance offices need blown up but as a UM fan I prefer the arrogant slimeballs to stay right where they can do the most damage to Ohio, in Columbus.

[Plus 1]

All good arguments and explanations of why the BCS is a backward mess that only cares about 1 vs 2..... BUT I don't care what else goes on...A "Head to Head" WIN on the field, should take the prize.
Obviously we can say OSU beat Wisconsin head to head , BUT OSU was'nt in the BTC and WIsconsin had 10 wins. We ended up 6-6, that's different....you can't compare that to MSU & UM both with 10 wins. I get it about the BCS BS but I don't blame MSU for being upset.
Michigan is NOW under a TON of pressure to justify their trip to the BCS with a W over VA Tech, IMO. {It's a very doable win vs VA Tech }
Wisconsin is under an even bigger weight to win, since losing last year's Rosebowl to TCU?
This year's 2 BCS games are must wins for the conference sake.
We could conceivably have 10 teams in bowl games...we need to WIN at least 6 to recover some credibility in the country as a whole. 5-5 would'nt be bad... IF... we win the 2 BCS bowls.:eek:

[Plus 1]

BTW: MSU has the tougher assignment too IMO....vs the SEC East Champs... Georgia.

This just shows even more flaws in the BCS and their 1 vs 2 priority mentality.
We have 2 very good Division Champions {Big Ten Legends Champions vs SEC East Champions} playing each other in a Non-BCS Bowl..???
Then of course we have the BCS automatic qualifier Big East Champs playing in a BCS Bowl....???? West Virginia barely made the top 25.....Crazy stuff.

[shirc]

Why in the world is Michgan going to the Sugar Bowl ahead of MSU? Both have 10 wins and MSU BEAT MICHIGAN. ????
This BCS gets weirder and weirder every year.

Alabama and LSU played a close game and Alabama only fell from #2 to #3. ...so why did MSU fall so far. MSU and Wisconsin game was just as close.....PLUS MSU beat Michigan.

Hokie :cool: must have some pull somewhere?

Michigan State is the runner up in the Big Ten, they went to the BT championship game ....so where did Michigan come from, having LOST to MSU ???:rolleyes:

It's all a JOKE.

MSU jobbed themselves by getting clobbered by Nebraska. I don't understand how they keep getting called "little brother" though. Maybe it's 'cuz they keep spanking big sister's ass?

[Wolvrin704]

MSU jobbed themselves by getting clobbered by Nebraska. I don't understand how they keep getting called "little brother" though. Maybe it's 'cuz they keep spanking big sister's ass?

Big sister? Whatever.

67-32-5 says it all. We haven't lost 4 in a row to them since the early 60's, they should enjoy this years win because it ends next season.

[shirc]

Big sister? Whatever.

67-32-5 says it all. We haven't lost 4 in a row to them since the early 60's, they should enjoy this years win because it ends next season.

Yeah but this is NOW, and I think 'lil bro' taking it to UM 4 years in a row is something the wolverines better do something about next year.
BTW, who is Michigan's bonehead of an offensive coordinator? I think if they hadn't called a play action pass on 4th and an inch against the Spartans, they might have won that game.

[Wolvrin704]

Yeah but this is NOW, and I think 'lil bro' taking it to UM 4 years in a row is something the wolverines better do something about next year.
BTW, who is Michigan's bonehead of an offensive coordinator? I think if they hadn't called a play action pass on 4th and an inch against the Spartans, they might have won that game.

Touche! I do agree that next year UM has some business to take care of with the Spartans and I think if the chance presents itself they'll do it in overwhelming fashion. As for Borges, they were still trying to figure out the offense at the time so I'll give him a break. Not to mention as we know now DRob had a staph infection at the time.

[rickyleach]

michigan state is gonna get what they deserve next season. they have won the last 4yrs and probably need to win 49 straight games to catch up to us but next yr it ends. we play at our house and little brother is gonna get his pee-pee wacked.. i cant wait for michigan players to tell dicktonio after the game that little brother isnt worth a shit.. that game is huge on the michigan schedule. they are our no1 rival after osu n nd. next yr dicktonio gets exposed ...