Tajh Boyd

[hail2mich]

I see on Scout that Tajh Boyd has decommited from Tennessee. Do you think we still have a chance for him?

[W0lv3r1n3]

This is... what? The 3rd school he's decommitted from? He doesn't know if he's coming or going, not really someone I would want.

Don't think we have a shot anyway.

[GoDeepHammer]

This is... what? The 3rd school he's decommitted from? He doesn't know if he's coming or going, not really someone I would want.

Don't think we have a shot anyway.

I don't understand these kids. Why commit if you don't know for sure?

[tpilews]

I don't understand these kids. Why commit if you don't know for sure?

I don't understand decommitting for what seems like no reason, but let's cut him some slack. He committed and then the coach was fired.

Either way, we have no shot. Not sure I'd want him at this point anyway. I'm excited to see what Tate/Beaver can do.

[GoDeepHammer]

I don't understand decommitting for what seems like no reason, but let's cut him some slack. He committed and then the coach was fired.

Either way, we have no shot. Not sure I'd want him at this point anyway. I'm excited to see what Tate/Beaver can do.

Just found this:

Kiffin told Boyd that he would honor the scholly offer and welcome him to TN.
However, Kiffin (honorably) told Boyd that he did not see Boyd being a QB in his system.

[tpilews]

Just found this:

Kiffin told Boyd that he would honor the scholly offer and welcome him to TN.
However, Kiffin (honorably) told Boyd that he did not see Boyd being a QB in his system.

Well, that would make me want to decommit too.

[GoDeepHammer]

Well, that would make me want to decommit too.

Yes, it would make me want to look in another direction.

He is looking at Oregon and osu.

[tpilews]

Yes, it would make me want to look in another direction.

He is looking at Oregon and osu.

I can see Oregon, but tuos??? Doesn't make any sense.

[GoDeepHammer]

I can see Oregon, but tuos??? Doesn't make any sense.

I agree, but Newsome is looking there as well. It makes no sense, unless they want to ride the pine for a couple years.

[Wolvrin704]

I can't understand all these dual threat QB's looking at OSU. :eek:

[GoDeepHammer]

I can't understand all these dual threat QB's looking at OSU. :eek:

Just doesn't make sense if they want to play.

[tpilews]

I agree, but Newsome is looking there as well. It makes no sense, unless they want to ride the pine for a couple years.

Yeah, I've heard that too. Most think he'll end up at VT, but I guess there's always a chance. Money/Cars are a power recruiting tool.

[Bossgobbler23]

I can't understand all these dual threat QB's looking at OSU. :eek:

I can't either as they won't play anytime soon.

[GoDeepHammer]

I can't either as they won't play anytime soon.

Especially Newsome, from what I heard he wanted the starting job day one. He didn't want to compete for it, so I don't understand his logic with osu.

[Bossgobbler23]

I think we ended up with the two best QB's for Michigan. They both not only have the skills but they both beat the crap out of Newsome and Boyd as far as having a far better attitude for competition. They both will make good Michigan men.

[GoDeepHammer]

I think we ended up with the two best QB's for Michigan. They both not only have the skills but they both beat the crap out of Newsome and Boyd as far as having a far better attitude for competition. They both will make good Michigan men.

I agree about Newsome, but I haven't really heard any bad press about Boyd.

[W0lv3r1n3]

I don't know about Boyd honestly, all of the decommitts are a little suspicious. Even if he would have stayed at Tenn, he must have known that Fulmer wasn't going to be there long if at all when he's playing.

[GoDeepHammer]

I don't know about Boyd honestly, all of the decommitts are a little suspicious. Even if he would have stayed at Tenn, he must have known that Fulmer wasn't going to be there long if at all when he's playing.

I would assume that it would have been the same thing with Mallet and Carr.

[W0lv3r1n3]

I would assume that it would have been the same thing with Mallet and Carr.

The thing is though that rumors about him being fired were whirling before he even committed to Tenn. People weren't severally down on Carr until after the App State game.

[GoDeepHammer]

The thing is though that rumors about him being fired were whirling before he even committed to Tenn. People weren't severally down on Carr until after the App State game.

People have been asking for a change for years. And anyone that knew anything about Michigan knew that he was long after Hart/Long/Henne left.

[Silver Bullet]

I can't understand all these dual threat QB's looking at OSU. :eek:

Well, Boeckman is gone and there are rumors that Bauserman may be leaving to go somewhere and start. That leaves Pryor and.......nobody. So I think with the lack of depth and the odds of a scrambling QB making it through a season unscathed not in OSU's favor, I think OSU is an appealing place for a lot of QB recruits.

[tpilews]

Well, Boeckman is gone and there are rumors that Bauserman may be leaving to go somewhere and start. That leaves Pryor and.......nobody. So I think with the lack of depth and the odds of a scrambling QB making it through a season unscathed not in OSU's favor, I think OSU is an appealing place for a lot of QB recruits.

No doubt it's an appealing place for recruits. I just don't understand dual threat guys sitting behind a 4 year starter for 3 years. These are guys that will most likely start the majority of their time in college, not backups. Newsome left UM because he didn't like competition. Well, I guess he is safe at tuos because there will be no competition, he'll be sitting his a*ss.

[amazinblue]

No doubt it's an appealing place for recruits. I just don't understand dual threat guys sitting behind a 4 year starter for 3 years. These are guys that will most likely start the majority of their time in college, not backups. Newsome left UM because he didn't like competition. Well, I guess he is safe at tuos because there will be no competition, he'll be sitting his a*ss.

Pryor's not going anywhere soon. It's possible, slightly possible, that he'd jump to the NFL after his junior season, but - if he wants to be a QB at the next level, his arm's gotta improve a LOT. So, if Newsome goes to OSU, he's not a starter for three years - unless Pryor goes down with an injury.

If Newsome wants the keys to the car before he steps on campus, I hope he goes to VT or another school - I wouldn't want him here. If there's one thing I like about RR a lot, it's that the best players play - those that work hardest in practice and can make the biggest contribution - and that's on a weekly basis. RR's got these young men competing - really earning - the right to start every week. So, if you're not willing to work hard - every day - every week - don't expect to get a start; however, if you are and you're that good - you can start game one as a true (or redshirt) freshman.

[Silver Bullet]

No doubt it's an appealing place for recruits. I just don't understand dual threat guys sitting behind a 4 year starter for 3 years. These are guys that will most likely start the majority of their time in college, not backups. Newsome left UM because he didn't like competition. Well, I guess he is safe at tuos because there will be no competition, he'll be sitting his a*ss.

If somebody wants to play right away, then OSU isn't going to be a draw. But I think Tressel does a good job selling the virtues of not starting right away to recruits. Worked with Pryor. Also, there is no way that Pryor is at OSU for 4 years.

[GoBlue21]

Pryor's not going anywhere soon. It's possible, slightly possible, that he'd jump to the NFL after his junior season, but - if he wants to be a QB at the next level, his arm's gotta improve a LOT. So, if Newsome goes to OSU, he's not a starter for three years - unless Pryor goes down with an injury.

If Newsome wants the keys to the car before he steps on campus, I hope he goes to VT or another school - I wouldn't want him here. If there's one thing I like about RR a lot, it's that the best players play - those that work hardest in practice and can make the biggest contribution - and that's on a weekly basis. RR's got these young men competing - really earning - the right to start every week. So, if you're not willing to work hard - every day - every week - don't expect to get a start; however, if you are and you're that good - you can start game one as a true (or redshirt) freshman.

No freshman should just walk onto campus expecting to start. They need to earn that position and I like what RichRod is doing as well. Even the returning starters need to compete week in and week out to keep their position. That keeps the players on their toes and makes them realize that the position could be taken away at anytime! That way the players don't get lazy and just running through the motions...

If Newsome wanted to play right away, Michigan was his best option. He shouldn't be given the keys though, kudos to RichRod for expressing that to the kid instead lying to the kid and promising him playing time. Don't want to give the kid mixed signals.

He will ride the pine for tUOS. VT should be his destination for playing time...

[amazinblue]

Also, there is no way that Pryor is at OSU for 4 years.

Sliver Bullet,

Are you saying that Pryor's on the "five year" plan at OSU? I'm assuming you're saying that he's out in two more seasons. Well, maybe he'd go to the NFL as a WR - but, unless that arm gets a LOT better, he's not playing QB at the next level. Don't get me wrong, I think he's got a lot of talent and is a special player - but, OSU doesn't exactly crank out starting NFL QB's.

So, my guess, Pryor's at OSU for three more full seasons, and in his senior year (2011) he'll get a lot of Heisman talk.

I'd welcome your perspective about why you think Pryor will leave after his junior year - since that's what I believe you're saying.

[Silver Bullet]

Sliver Bullet,

Are you saying that Pryor's on the "five year" plan at OSU? I'm assuming you're saying that he's out in two more seasons. Well, maybe he'd go to the NFL as a WR - but, unless that arm gets a LOT better, he's not playing QB at the next level. Don't get me wrong, I think he's got a lot of talent and is a special player - but, OSU doesn't exactly crank out starting NFL QB's.

So, my guess, Pryor's at OSU for three more full seasons, and in his senior year (2011) he'll get a lot of Heisman talk.

I'd welcome your perspective about why you think Pryor will leave after his junior year - since that's what I believe you're saying.

He'll leave because he'll be a top pick in the draft after his junior year. Was Mike Vick a top pick because he was projected to be the next Joe Montana? He was drafted because he was exciting and he'd put @sses in the seats of whatever stadium he was playing in. I don't think NFL GM's are seriously going to say to themselves, "He's going to be special a year from now. Right now he's not ready and I refuse to draft him." They are going to draft him when he's available and if need be, let him sit out a year and let him learn the system and bring him along slowly. At the end of the day, the NFL is a business and an exciting guy like Pryor is good for business. Remember all the buzz he generated during his recruitment? He's already a superstar.

By the way, I totally agree with you that he's not a strong passer at this time, but I think Tressel will be able to development him to a point where he'll be able to get by at the next level. It's too early to say if he'll be any good in the NFL, as far as completing passes goes.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

He'll leave because he'll be a top pick in the draft after his junior year. Was Mike Vick a top pick because he was projected to be the next Joe Montana? He was drafted because he was exciting and he'd put @sses in the seats of whatever stadium he was playing in. I don't think NFL GM's are seriously going to say to themselves, "He's going to be special a year from now. Right now he's not ready and I refuse to draft him." They are going to draft him when he's available and if need be, let him sit out a year and let him learn the system and bring him along slowly. At the end of the day, the NFL is a business and an exciting guy like Pryor is good for business. Remember all the buzz he generated during his recruitment? He's already a superstar.

By the way, I totally agree with you that he's not a strong passer at this time, but I think Tressel will be able to development him to a point where he'll be able to get by at the next level. It's too early to say if he'll be any good in the NFL, as far as completing passes goes.

did you just compare Terrel Pryor to Micheal Vick? Wow. Terrel Pyror has only played one decent season and when Beanie Wells was hurt he couldn't move the ball against Ohio U. Micheal Vick would've beated Ohio by 35, as a freshman, without beanie wells.

[Wolvrin704]

Well, Boeckman is gone and there are rumors that Bauserman may be leaving to go somewhere and start. That leaves Pryor and.......nobody. So I think with the lack of depth and the odds of a scrambling QB making it through a season unscathed not in OSU's favor, I think OSU is an appealing place for a lot of QB recruits.

I realize that Boeckman is gone and OSU does need QB's. But why are they targeting dual threat QB's for their system? Why are so many dual threat QB's so interested in OSU? Why not look at schools more suited to your abilities?

[amazinblue]

He'll leave because he'll be a top pick in the draft after his junior year. Was Mike Vick a top pick because he was projected to be the next Joe Montana? He was drafted because he was exciting and he'd put @sses in the seats of whatever stadium he was playing in. I don't think NFL GM's are seriously going to say to themselves, "He's going to be special a year from now. Right now he's not ready and I refuse to draft him." They are going to draft him when he's available and if need be, let him sit out a year and let him learn the system and bring him along slowly. At the end of the day, the NFL is a business and an exciting guy like Pryor is good for business.

Bullet,

Some good points - but, there's one overarching thing at the NFL level. Having talented players that draw fans is "nice" - but, NFL coaches aren't paid for "nice" things, they're paid to win and get in the playoffs - period. And, though I agree that Pryor's got a lot of natural ability, and that team's will most likely give him a year or two to develop before moving him to a starting role - if he can't throw the ball accurately - he's not going to go high in the draft. I know current and former NFL coaches - and the room for error in an NFL QB's throws is very small. So, though Tressel will work on his development - the key is not "working on it" - the key is getting him to be accurate enough to be an NFL QB. Otherwise, he could be like several other good college QB's that don't cut it at the NFL level, or move to another position like "Slash" for the Steelers.

Pryor's exciting. I'm looking forward to my beloved Maize and Blue facing him on the field in the upcoming seasons. And, I hope Michigan can make sure Pryor leaves OSU with only one pair of gold pants.

[Silver Bullet]

I realize that Boeckman is gone and OSU does need QB's. But why are they targeting dual threat QB's for their system? Why are so many dual threat QB's so interested in OSU? Why not look at schools more suited to your abilities?

I ask myself that every day. Pryor's strong suit is running, nobody denies this. So then he takes him and tries to make him a pocket passer and gets him to stop scrambling? Makes no sense. He looked amazing in the Illinois game because he was running when he didn't see anything open downfield. Then in other games he would sit in the pocket, looking like a deer in the headlights waiting for somebody to get open. I think at times he's confused as to what kind of QB he's supposed to be.

I want him to win games and the best way to do that is for him to be a running QB that can hit the passes that OSU needs when it's crucial. He's trying to become a pass-at-all costs QB and that while that may help in the NFL, it won't help win games at OSU.

I was glad to get Pryor because Um didn't, but OSU's offense would look so much better with a pure, pocket passer and not a scrambler trying to pass.

[Silver Bullet]

Bullet,

Some good points - but, there's one overarching thing at the NFL level. Having talented players that draw fans is "nice" - but, NFL coaches aren't paid for "nice" things, they're paid to win and get in the playoffs - period. And, though I agree that Pryor's got a lot of natural ability, and that team's will most likely give him a year or two to develop before moving him to a starting role - if he can't throw the ball accurately - he's not going to go high in the draft. I know current and former NFL coaches - and the room for error in an NFL QB's throws is very small. So, though Tressel will work on his development - the key is not "working on it" - the key is getting him to be accurate enough to be an NFL QB. Otherwise, he could be like several other good college QB's that don't cut it at the NFL level, or move to another position like "Slash" for the Steelers.

Pryor's exciting. I'm looking forward to my beloved Maize and Blue facing him on the field in the upcoming seasons. And, I hope Michigan can make sure Pryor leaves OSU with only one pair of gold pants.

I don't agree with drafting projects either, especially since coaches aren't given much time to be successful. I just can't see a situation where a team in need of a QB would draft him. It would probably be a decision that the coach would be against (especially when it's his @ss on the line), but the owner may step in and demand the team draft the guy that will get the fans excited. I think Pryor is going to be a good college QB (if Tressel figures out how to use him), but he probably won't challenge any passing records. But that really doesn't mean he won't generate sellouts and move merchandise. It sucks but it seems to be the way things are going.

[GoDeepHammer]

I don't agree with drafting projects either, especially since coaches aren't given much time to be successful. I just can't see a situation where a team in need of a QB would draft him. It would probably be a decision that the coach would be against (especially when it's his @ss on the line), but the owner may step in and demand the team draft the guy that will get the fans excited. I think Pryor is going to be a good college QB (if Tressel figures out how to use him), but he probably won't challenge any passing records. But that really doesn't mean he won't generate sellouts and move merchandise. It sucks but it seems to be the way things are going.

He could end up being another NFL WR.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

there is absolutely no way he becomes a starting nfl qb. i know he is just a freshman but he cant throw like an nfl qb. I think what happened to vince young really will hurt pyror in the scouts eyes, cause he certaintly doesnt have a better arm than young. all he does is throw it up and let his receivers get under it, that wont work in the nfl, or whatever bs bowl u guys make it to.

[Silver Bullet]

there is absolutely no way he becomes a starting nfl qb. i know he is just a freshman but he cant throw like an nfl qb. I think what happened to vince young really will hurt pyror in the scouts eyes, cause he certaintly doesnt have a better arm than young. all he does is throw it up and let his receivers get under it, that wont work in the nfl, or whatever bs bowl u guys make it to.

Did you mean whatever bCs bowl we make it to? Which bowl is UM in?

[TNTWolverine]

Did you mean whatever bCs bowl we make it to? Which bowl is UM in?

UM was in my bowl of Alpha-Bits cereal this morning. Ironically, OSU never showed up... Why do you ask?

[BLEEDINGBLUE]

Did you mean whatever bCs bowl we make it to? Which bowl is UM in?

Yea, we figured after 33 straight years, it was time to give someone else a chance. After all, you guys are still new to this bowl stuff aren't you? I mean after all, it was only 9 yrs ago that you guys were sitting on the toilet bowl as I recall.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

Did you mean whatever bCs bowl we make it to? Which bowl is UM in?

That really has nothing to do with what i said, why dont u trolls ever acknowledge what the point of posts are instead of just pointing out the obvious, michigan had a bad season, no shit. we are talking about pryor here not michigan

[Silver Bullet]

That really has nothing to do with what i said, why dont u trolls ever acknowledge what the point of posts are instead of just pointing out the obvious, michigan had a bad season, no shit. we are talking about pryor here not michigan

No, pointing out the obvious would have been me saying you were a result of inbreeding. Calling a BCS bowl a 'bullsh!t' bowl, while not making a bowl yourself was a master stroke. Since you were unwilling/unable to read my earlier posts, I'll say it again: I don't give a sh!t what Pryor does in the NFL. I'm not on his payroll. I want OSU to win games and I really don't care if Pryor's mechanics or abilities translate to the NFL.

[rickyleach]

silver bullit ,proud as can be about those buckeyes eh, tell me how your going to beat either fla or bama or texas in your bowl game, i hope and pray one of these is your matchup. lets just say one is , tell me why your going to win , and how.. you guys are either going to the fiesta or sugar bowl, or maybe possible cap one, but bcs is more like it, the funny thing is you have not one defense on why you will not win that game, we have all heard it all from ohio states nation, and nothing seems to pan out the way your nation thinks, just think of how LOW YOUR ALREADY NATIONAL IMAGE WILL SINK IF YOUR TEAM DOESNT SHOW UP AGAIN...

[Bossgobbler23]

I ask myself that every day. Pryor's strong suit is running, nobody denies this. So then he takes him and tries to make him a pocket passer and gets him to stop scrambling? Makes no sense. He looked amazing in the Illinois game because he was running when he didn't see anything open downfield. Then in other games he would sit in the pocket, looking like a deer in the headlights waiting for somebody to get open. I think at times he's confused as to what kind of QB he's supposed to be.

I want him to win games and the best way to do that is for him to be a running QB that can hit the passes that OSU needs when it's crucial. He's trying to become a pass-at-all costs QB and that while that may help in the NFL, it won't help win games at OSU.

I was glad to get Pryor because Um didn't, but OSU's offense would look so much better with a pure, pocket passer and not a scrambler trying to pass.

I have to agree that Pryor, though a freshman is a much better runner than passer. I don't know how good his passing will improve in the years to come but he does not have the ability to bring OSU back against a good team that has the lead on you. OSU would've been much better off with a Mallet type QB and U-M with a Pryor type.

[tpilews]

I have to agree that Pryor, though a freshman is a much better runner than passer. I don't know how good his passing will improve in the years to come but he does not have the ability to bring OSU back against a good team that has the lead on you. OSU would've been much better off with a Mallet type QB and U-M with a Pryor type.

I don't ever want a qb with as bad an arm as Pryor.

[W0lv3r1n3]

I don't ever want a qb with as bad an arm as Pryor.

We have two right now.:rolleyes:

[tpilews]

We have two right now.:rolleyes:

Even their arms are better than his. The only way he completed such long passes this year was because defense HAD to respect his run game. When a play breaks down, so does coverage. Sh*it my grandma could make those passes if she was as elusive as Pryor.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

No, pointing out the obvious would have been me saying you were a result of inbreeding. Calling a BCS bowl a 'bullsh!t' bowl, while not making a bowl yourself was a master stroke. Since you were unwilling/unable to read my earlier posts, I'll say it again: I don't give a sh!t what Pryor does in the NFL. I'm not on his payroll. I want OSU to win games and I really don't care if Pryor's mechanics or abilities translate to the NFL.

sorry we dont marry our cousins where im from farm boy. and it is a bullsh!t bowl because you do not deserve to be in it! look what happened last time you played a bcs caliber team...35-3 ring a bell?? boise state deserves it more than osu does anyday

[Silver Bullet]

sorry we dont marry our cousins where im from farm boy. and it is a bullsh!t bowl because you do not deserve to be in it! look what happened last time you played a bcs caliber team...35-3 ring a bell?? boise state deserves it more than osu does anyday

Yeah, I do remember the last time.....it was against Penn State. As I recall, it was a lot closer than the Um showing against the same team.

[tpilews]

Yeah, I do remember the last time.....it was against Penn State. As I recall, it was a lot closer than the Um showing against the same team.

With 20 returning starters, tuos put up 287 yds of total offense and didn't score a single touchdown at home.

UM's worst offense in history of the program put up 291 yds and scored two touchdowns in Happy Valley.

[StevieBrownforHeisman]

Even their arms are better than his. The only way he completed such long passes this year was because defense HAD to respect his run game. When a play breaks down, so does coverage. Sh*it my grandma could make those passes if she was as elusive as Pryor.

wow dude, i hate ohio state too, but if you really think Nick Sheridan has a better arm than Terrel Pryor then i want some of that crack you've been smoking. same goes for threet, actually.

[tpilews]

wow dude, i hate ohio state too, but if you really think Nick Sheridan has a better arm than Terrel Pryor then i want some of that crack you've been smoking. same goes for threet, actually.

Pryor throws wounded ducks. Remember that 30 yd completion on a busted play against UM. Yeah, the one that should have been intercepted except our secondary was coming up for run support. At least Sheridan could throw a decent bubble screen. Pryor's arm is awful and he get away with it because the secondary can't hold coverage that long.

[W0lv3r1n3]

I don't think Sheridan and Threet are any better than Pryor. They're all extremely inaccurate, but at least Pryor can make plays with his legs.

[blueisbetterthanred]

With 20 returning starters, tuos put up 287 yds of total offense and didn't score a single touchdown at home.

UM's worst offense in history of the program put up 291 yds and scored two touchdowns in Happy Valley.

The truth hurts.

Facts are facts. Our team sucked this year while changing gears and core systems and still outproduced an osu team that was supposed to go undefeated and "compete" in a NC game finally.

[pryorthrowslikeagirl]

im not on here saying michigan is good this year, we werent supposed to be...YOU were and failing to score an offensive td in the like 4 games is pathetic and you know it. (silver bullet)

[tpilews]

I don't think Sheridan and Threet are any better than Pryor. They're all extremely inaccurate, but at least Pryor can make plays with his legs.

I think you made my point for me. Pryor's arm is awful, maybe even worse than Threet/Sheridan, but he can get away with a terrible arm because his legs give him more time and his receivers more time to get open.

If Pryor learns to throw, even decently, all of college football could be in trouble.