Is Beilein coach of the year?

[bighousemike84]

I dont see how he doesnt deserve coach of the year. To create this kind of turnaround in 1 season! To take a team that hadnt seen the NCAA tournament in 11 years and give them every chance to be a part of it. He should most definitely win B10 coach of the year and he should be at the top of the list for national coach of the year

[nc wolverine]

b10 coach of the year probably, but he has stiff competition from PSU's coach

national .. he may be up for it but i think Oklahomas coach gets that one.... not that i want him to but only 4 losses all season....

[bighousemike84]

Yeah but Oklahomas coach has arguably the best player in the country on his team. Sure Beilein has a couple good players but I dont think you could argue that Michigan is a highly talented team

[amazinblue]

Beilein,

A contender for coach of the year - sure. If Michigan makes the dance - and, if by some great effort / play they make the Sweet 16 - then, his name will enter into the conversation.

Big 10 coach of the year. He's gotta get consideration.

[GoGreen23]

I agree with you guys that Belien should be one of the nominees for Coach of the Year in the Big Ten. The only other candidates would be PSU's coach, or NW's coach. In my opinion those are the most improved teams in conference this season.

As for National Coach of the Year, Michigan would have to make it to the NCAA Tourney and get past the first round for him to have a legit shot at winning that. So I guess I agree with you, amazinblue, no surprise there.

[chriswebber]

He should not get it. Look at what program he brought back, a program that killed itself. Would you give Crean coach of the year? Would you give the Patroits most moral team? Would you give RRod coach of the year for making the motor city bowl? Give coach of the year to some small school that has followed the rules. Besides, Michigan like alot of schools is on the bubble. Yet, they are huge. He hasn't won anything.

[Swoosh]

Well CW it's a good no one cares what you think:p

Win it or not MI has had a good year. We still have a long way to go, but they have come along way also.

[GoDeepHammer]

He should not get it. Look at what program he brought back, a program that killed itself. Would you give Crean coach of the year? Would you give the Patroits most moral team? Would you give RRod coach of the year for making the motor city bowl? Give coach of the year to some small school that has followed the rules. Besides, Michigan like alot of schools is on the bubble. Yet, they are huge. He hasn't won anything.

Wow, I would say almost doubling your win totals in a year is pretty impressive. As far as the history of Michigan basketball, why would Belien have to deal with that? He had nothing to do with that. With your logic, no matter what, if a school had any issues they should be banned from anything good that is in their future?

[AlwaysBlue]

He should not get it. Look at what program he brought back, a program that killed itself. Would you give Crean coach of the year? Would you give the Patroits most moral team? Would you give RRod coach of the year for making the motor city bowl? Give coach of the year to some small school that has followed the rules. Besides, Michigan like alot of schools is on the bubble. Yet, they are huge. He hasn't won anything.

As an OSU fan, you must be horribly disappointed in your yet again "top 5" recruiting class leaving the bball team just on the bubble. Seriously, Thad Matta must be the worst coach in the country. He gets arguably the best talent from across the country and yet somehow, his teams continually underachieve.

How on earth could MIchigan be basically on par with OSU this year, maybe 1 step behind, with their incoming class of Cronin (didnt play), novak (wasn't recruited by anyone), douglass? Compare that to OSU's class.

Cmon.. this is purely the definition of doing more with less. OSU is the definition of doing less with more.

[amazinblue]

He should not get it. Look at what program he brought back, a program that killed itself. Would you give Crean coach of the year? Would you give the Patroits most moral team? Would you give RRod coach of the year for making the motor city bowl? Give coach of the year to some small school that has followed the rules. Besides, Michigan like alot of schools is on the bubble. Yet, they are huge. He hasn't won anything.

CWebb,

Please forgive me - I am reading the words of greatness. I guess that you never committed an error in your life. Perhaps it is you who has never sinned - as the good book say - "Let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone." You must be perfect.

Most of us make mistakes. And, there's no doubt that the problems with the Michigan basketball team of the early 90's have been noted - lets say that sins were committed. I believe that we have paid for whatever sins we committed - and more.

I believe the NCAA penalized Michigan for its violations. And, those penalties have been completed.

You can dwell on the past - or learn from your mistakes and turn things around. Oh, I forgot - you're perfect.

I on the other hand, have made mistakes - I've been a sinner - and struggle to do the best I can every day. I haven't forgotten about past problems - but, I also know that a bigger sin is to not recognize our shortcomings and do all that is possible to overcome them and lead a better life.

So, back on point. I think that Coach B does deserve consideration - if we don't win against Iowa on Thursday - I think its "adios" to any recognition, and it could be to the tourney as well. And, a better scenario (which I'm hopeful for) is - let's say they beat Iowa, and then beat Illinois - what might their seeding be?

[MoellerLover69(LloydCarr)]

Yeah but Oklahomas coach has arguably the best player in the country on his team. Sure Beilein has a couple good players but I dont think you could argue that Michigan is a highly talented team


I agree. I think our team with Horton, Sims, and Petway was allot more athletic and much deeper. We have better 3 point shooting with this team, but I think much of that can be attributed to Belein's schemes and practices. Amaker couldn't get them in the Big Dance and Belein is with inferior talent. I would definitely make him coach of the year!!!

[chriswebber]

Wait... is this the Belien that left WVU for more money? Wasn't his WVU team NCAA bound? Nah, he still shouldn't get it. Give it to someone small.

[bigboyBlue]

I think he merits being a finalist at least, given what he has done with a bunch of 3-star frosh, sophs, and walk-ons. You just have to respect that.

[bighousemike84]

The discussion is over. Izzo was the coaches pick for coach of year and Dhichellis(?) was the medias choice as coach of the year

[bighousemike84]

Harris is on the first team all B10. Sims is voted by media as second team all B10

[1OSUNUT]

What about Thad Matta ? He lost his best player a few weeks into the season and his only experinced big man to the NBA. Yet he still has the Buckeyes competitive and in the finals of the Big Ten tourney. The Buckeyes are a very young ball club.

[mgobev]

He should not get it. Look at what program he brought back, a program that killed itself. Would you give Crean coach of the year? Would you give the Patroits most moral team? Would you give RRod coach of the year for making the motor city bowl? Give coach of the year to some small school that has followed the rules. Besides, Michigan like alot of schools is on the bubble. Yet, they are huge. He hasn't won anything.


Didn't Ohio State get slapped with multiple NCAA violations in basketball a few years ago? Fucking idiot.

[Don Unverferth]

What about Thad Matta ? He lost his best player a few weeks into the season and his only experinced big man to the NBA. Yet he still has the Buckeyes competitive and in the finals of the Big Ten tourney. The Buckeyes are a very young ball club.


IMO Matta should have been a candidate for coach of the year every year at tOSU:

-- in his first season as coach, he took a 14-16 team and turned them around to go 20-12, becoming only the 2nd coach in OSU history to win 20 games his first season (Gary Williams being the other.)

-- in his second season as coach, he won the Big Ten outright for the first time since 1992. And Matta is B10 coach of the year.

-- in his third season, he wins the Big 10 outright (again); is B10 coach of the year (again) and is the NCAA runner-up.

-- in his fourth season, after losing 3 players to the NBA, he takes a team with 6 underclassmen (in a 9 man rotation) and goes 24-13, and wins the NIT.

-- and finally, in now is fifth season as coach, after losing yet another player to the NBA, and having a team experience level ranked 328 out of 344 D1 teams they still managed to make the B10 tourney final and the NCAA.

[RealSchool]

IMO Matta should have been a candidate for coach of the year every year at tOSU:

-- in his first season as coach, he took a 14-16 team and turned them around to go 20-12, becoming only the 2nd coach in OSU history to win 20 games his first season (Gary Williams being the other.)

-- in his second season as coach, he won the Big Ten outright for the first time since 1992. And Matta is B10 coach of the year.

-- in his third season, he wins the Big 10 outright (again); is B10 coach of the year (again) and is the NCAA runner-up.

-- in his fourth season, after losing 3 players to the NBA, he takes a team with 6 underclassmen (in a 9 man rotation) and goes 24-13, and wins the NIT.

-- and finally, in now is fifth season as coach, after losing yet another player to the NBA, and having a team experience level ranked 328 out of 344 D1 teams they still managed to make the B10 tourney final and the NCAA.



I could not agree more. Especially considering OSU is the only team to ever have injuries and players leave early.

[rickyleach]

Beilein should be coach of the year, in his second season he took his guys to the big dance and beat two great teams ,ucla and duke , plus won 9 games in the big10 against some pretty good teams. No coach deserves it more then our michigan coach, the rest of the coaches did a nice job , matta , izzo, etc, go blue..

[1OSUNUT]

He did a good job - but other guys did a better job. In fact I'm pretty sure the Buckeyes are even younger then the Wolverines are - and did better. Plus they beat them head to head - twice

[hail2mich]

Beilein has recruited only two years, and look what he has done with the team full of Amaker guys and walkons. Matta has recruited his entire team and they aren't much better.

[hail2mich]

I agree. I think our team with Horton, Sims, and Petway was allot more athletic and much deeper. We have better 3 point shooting with this team, but I think much of that can be attributed to Belein's schemes and practices. Amaker couldn't get them in the Big Dance and Belein is with inferior talent. I would definitely make him coach of the year!!!

Does anyone know what happened to Horton?

[rickyleach]

good question , what did happen to willie horton.

[Wolvrin704]

He did a good job - but other guys did a better job. In fact I'm pretty sure the Buckeyes are even younger then the Wolverines are - and did better. Plus they beat them head to head - twice

Once again maybe you should look stuff up before you spout stuff like OSU is younger than UM.

UM freshmen= 5
OSU freshmen= 3

UM sophmores= 3
OSU sophmores= 4

UM juniors= 2
OSU juniors= 6

UM seniors= 3
OSU seniors= 0

UM has more freshmen and sophmores which equates more young players. UM has seniors that OSU does not but balances it out with a large junior class. In fact if you assign numerial values to each class freshman=1, soph=2, junior=3 and senior=4 and add up both rosters they come to exactly 29 each.

So again your point is not based in fact again. And in fact next year UM will be far younger than OSU as OSU will have 6 seniors and 4 juniors while UM will have 2 seniors and 3 juniors. Unless OSU drops someone off scholly, redshirts someone or someone leaves early they have no room on their roster for any incoming freshmen.

[amazinblue]

So again your point is not based in fact again. And in fact next year UM will be far younger than OSU as OSU will have 6 seniors and 4 juniors while UM will have 2 seniors and 3 juniors. Unless OSU drops someone off scholly, redshirts someone or someone leaves early they have no room on their roster for any incoming freshmen.

Wolverin704,

I think you forgot that the 6 juniors from OSU are going to be drafted in the first round - so, OSU actually has room for 6 schollys this season.

[Wolvrin704]

Wolverin704,

I think you forgot that the 6 juniors from OSU are going to be drafted in the first round - so, OSU actually has room for 6 schollys this season.

My bad I was using UM logic instead of TUOS illogic. :D