Ari Fleisher off to prison.....

[RealSchool]

or at least that is where he belongs. Look at the crap he said the other day saying Iraq attacked us. The Bush and company lies continue even after the wonderful day of 1-20-09.


Fleischer: "After September 11th having been hit once how could we take a chance that Saddam might strike again? And that's the threat that has been removed and I think we are all safer with that threat removed."

Matthews: "I'm proud that we no longer have an administration that uses that kind argument...and the American people are too."

Fleischer: "Well, Chris, we all know where you stand.

Matthews: "And you as well sir."

[The Michigan Man]

or at least that is where he belongs. Look at the crap he said the other day saying Iraq attacked us. The Bush and company lies continue even after the wonderful day of 1-20-09.


Fleischer: "After September 11th having been hit once how could we take a chance that Saddam might strike again? And that's the threat that has been removed and I think we are all safer with that threat removed."

Matthews: "I'm proud that we no longer have an administration that uses that kind argument...and the American people are too."

Fleischer: "Well, Chris, we all know where you stand.

Matthews: "And you as well sir."

Luckily we have a now have a President that would never lie. "No earmarks!" "No lobbyists in my cabinet!".

2 months in and Barry Hussein is already ass-deep in lies and backtracking, so I wouldn't lose any sleep about Bush at this point...

[RealSchool]

Luckily we have a now have a President that would never lie. "No earmarks!" "No lobbyists in my cabinet!".

2 months in and Barry Hussein is already ass-deep in lies and backtracking, so I wouldn't lose any sleep about Bush at this point...

At least Obama's lies don't make him a war criminal.

[amazinblue]

At least Obama's lies don't make him a war criminal.

RealSchool - just so I've got it straight - you're "ok" with the lying that Obama's done thus far. Right?

[bluefan]

RealSchool - just so I've got it straight - you're "ok" with the lying that Obama's done thus far. Right?

That's the double standard all commie liberals adhere to. Everyone else's lies = DEATH but theirs are acceptable.

[bluefan]

By the way, RealFool, quit posting drunk. Rule number one of the internets.

[RealSchool]

I love how none of you can address the issues. Iraq didn't attack us but one of your heros continues to say so.

Have none of you any shame?

[The Michigan Man]

At least Obama's lies don't make him a war criminal.

KOOK ALERT!!! Too much Michael Moore and Bill Maher, I'm guessing...

[RealSchool]

You get cable in the cave you live in? ^^^^^

I love Bill Maher, he shares my love of exposing conservatives as dumb.

[amazinblue]

I love Bill Maher, he shares my love of exposing conservatives as dumb.

RealSchool,

The fact that you have "man love" for Bill Maher really is of no consequence to me. And, though you both may have a "love of exposing conservatives" - the key difference is that he is actually effective in doing so...

I'd welcome your perspective on WHY you think there were projected budget surpluses when Bill Clinton was President...

[RealSchool]

RealSchool,

The fact that you have "man love" for Bill Maher really is of no consequence to me. And, though you both may have a "love of exposing conservatives" - the key difference is that he is actually effective in doing so...

I'd welcome your perspective on WHY you think there were projected budget surpluses when Bill Clinton was President...

He didn't start 2 wars while cutting taxes for the rich. Challenge me boy!

[Buzz]

Luckily we have a now have a President that would never lie. "No earmarks!" "No lobbyists in my cabinet!".

2 months in and Barry Hussein is already ass-deep in lies and backtracking, so I wouldn't lose any sleep about Bush at this point...

When did Obama ever say "No earmarks"? I think you have it mixed up....no, I know you have it mixed up. It was McCain's old ass that repeatedly referenced "No earmarks", and tax cuts with his proposal. Get your lie straight. Why don't you provide some facts to support this crap you've posted, or stop posting.

I've been trying to ask you for months and you won't answer my question.....has anyone ever told you that you look just like Tom Terrific?

[Mike Furley]

The original poster is an idiot. Learn how to read. Nowhere does he say "after Iraq hit us once". He's saying "after we, our country was hit once".

Think of it this way. If you get in an car accident because another driver failed to yield, you take that lesson with you in your future driving - not so you can be wary of that particular driver who hit you, but so you can be wary of all drivers who potentially could make the same or similar errors and hit you.

In this case, the lesson was that we let our guard down with respect to a threat of asymmetrical warfare to us by an avowed enemy (al qaeda) and there in Iraq we were being told by intelligence agencies that an avowed enemy had WMD's or was seeking to aquire WMD's while letting an al-qaeda big-wig recuperate in one of their hospitals. The threat was that al-qaeda could access these WMD's and facilitate another asymettrical warfare attack on us.

When he says Saddam strike us again he is referring to attacks on us. Saddam is a different actor, but the attacks are accumulative.

[The Michigan Man]

When did Obama ever say "No earmarks"? I think you have it mixed up....no, I know you have it mixed up. It was McCain's old ass that repeatedly referenced "No earmarks", and tax cuts with his proposal. Get your lie straight. Why don't you provide some facts to support this crap you've posted, or stop posting.

I've been trying to ask you for months and you won't answer my question.....has anyone ever told you that you look just like Tom Terrific?

You've been asking me for months about earmarks, even though this is the only thread where I've discussed earmarks, and this thread was only started yesterday? Starting our St. Patrick's Day celebrating a few days early, are we?

" The truth is, our earmark system in Washington is fraught with abuse. It badly needs reform — which is why I didn't request a single earmark last year, why I've released all my previous requests for the public to see, and why I've pledged to slash earmarks by more than half when I am president of the United States of America." Barack Obama, September 22, 2008

"Absolutely, we need earmark reform. And when I'm president, I will go line by line to make sure that we are not spending money unwisely." Barack Obama, September 26, 2008

"But when they start characterizing this as pork, without acknowledging that there are no earmarks in this package — something, again, that was pretty rare over the last eight years — then you get a feeling that maybe we're playing politics instead of actually trying to solve problems for the American people." Barack Obama, February 9, 2009

"I'm proud that we passed the recovery plan free of earmarks." Barack Obama, February 24, 2009

[Mike Furley]

As for Obama and earmarks, people need to listen better. Obama never said he would eliminate earmarks in any of three debates. He consistently made the same three comments regarding them:

they account for a tiny percentage of the overall budget.

that we need earmark reform

that he'll go line by line through the budget and eliminate wasteful programs that don't work.




thus he can sign a bill laden with earmarks and still be consistent with his laxative talking during the debates. So long as he views them fractionally small in relation to the overall budget - which they will be because he has proposed a massive budget, and they are worthwhile - and he thinks all non-defense department spending is worthwhile - he satisfies his statement. Earmark reform is still needed but that has no impact on his decision to sign a bill with them.

[Buzz]

"You've been asking me for months about earmarks, even though this is the only thread where I've discussed earmarks, and this thread was only started yesterday? Starting our St. Patrick's Day celebrating a few days early, are we?"

That's damn funny, MM...and to answer your question, yes I am. But Obama only talked about controlling earmark spending, not eliminating it all together. It's 2% of the bill.

You know what question I was asking.

[The Michigan Man]

"You've been asking me for months about earmarks, even though this is the only thread where I've discussed earmarks, and this thread was only started yesterday? Starting our St. Patrick's Day celebrating a few days early, are we?"

That's damn funny, MM...and to answer your question, yes I am. But Obama only talked about controlling earmark spending, not eliminating it all together. It's 2% of the bill.

You know what question I was asking.

I take the wasting of my tax $$ very seriously. Apparently 8 billion dollars is trivial to some people.

[RealSchool]

[QUOTE=Mike Furley;9399]The original poster is an idiot. Learn how to read. Nowhere does he say "after Iraq hit us once". He's saying "after we, our country was hit once".



Nice double speak, you are full of crap and you know it.

Exact words:

"how could we take a chance that Saddam might strike again"

That Saddam. When did he attack in the first place? Your mumbo jumbo reply is exactly why republicans are a dying party.

[byebyelloyd]

[QUOTE=Mike Furley;9399]The original poster is an idiot. Learn how to read. Nowhere does he say "after Iraq hit us once". He's saying "after we, our country was hit once".



Nice double speak, you are full of crap and you know it.

Exact words:

"how could we take a chance that Saddam might strike again"

That Saddam. When did he attack in the first place? Your mumbo jumbo reply is exactly why republicans are a dying party.

dying party, thats the stupidest thing i've seen posted this year. Obama had the chance to practice the ideas he lied about during his whole campaign and so far has not. i've never bothered to vote because its been a useless prospect, but he's definitely made the 2010 and 2012 elections an easy choice. just hit the big R and go about my life.

[osusteve]

Name a former president who has not gone back on a campaign pledge?

President George W. Bush proclaimed during the 2000 campaign that he did not believe in "nation Building.". Within the first two years of his presidency, he started bombing (and of course re-building) two countries at an expanse of over $3 trillion dollars.

[RealSchool]

Name a former president who has not gone back on a campaign pledge?

President George W. Bush proclaimed during the 2000 campaign that he did not believe in "nation Building.". Within the first two years of his presidency, he started bombing (and of course re-building) two countries at an expanse of over $3 trillion dollars.


"Read my lips, no new taxes."

I wonder who lied about that? Bush family = liars.

[RealSchool]

[QUOTE=RealSchool;9410]

dying party, thats the stupidest thing i've seen posted this year. Obama had the chance to practice the ideas he lied about during his whole campaign and so far has not. i've never bothered to vote because its been a useless prospect, but he's definitely made the 2010 and 2012 elections an easy choice. just hit the big R and go about my life.

Yup dying party, but how would you know you aren't even patriotic enough to get off the couch to vote.

[Mike Furley]

[QUOTE=RealSchool;9410]

dying party, thats the stupidest thing i've seen posted this year. Obama had the chance to practice the ideas he lied about during his whole campaign and so far has not. i've never bothered to vote because its been a useless prospect, but he's definitely made the 2010 and 2012 elections an easy choice. just hit the big R and go about my life.

Republicans have been entirely consistent. It was the Congressional Democrats who are the inconsistent ones. They were the ones who demanded a vote authorizing the use of force prior to the election so they could have their potential presidential candidates go on record as voting for it so they couldn't be painted as the "weak on defense, pussy Democrat" that Republicans had been successful with in the past.

And none of them complained the least little bit until after the counter-insurgency began after the fall of Saddam. Then, when the liberal wing of the party got apopleptic after our setback in Falujah - then that is when they began using tortured logic to make them appear justified in their newfound opposition.

It has always amazed me how so many supposedly smart (or educated) Democrat supporters can simultaneously hold that Bush was an idiot and yet that Bush somehow managed to hoodwink the Congressional Democrats.

They were simply exercising political expediency of the worst kind.

[osusteve]

Senator Hillary Clinton's vote to give President Bush the right to wage a premptive strike against Iraq cost her the democratic nomination.

Some democratic icons (like Senator Edward Kennedy and Senator Robert Byrd) had the guts to vote their conscience in opposition. While I believe Hillary will be an excellent Secretary of State, her vote in support of President George W. Bush will stain her reputation forever.

[RealSchool]

[QUOTE=byebyelloyd;9414]

Republicans have been entirely consistent. It was the Congressional Democrats who are the inconsistent ones. They were the ones who demanded a vote authorizing the use of force prior to the election so they could have their potential presidential candidates go on record as voting for it so they couldn't be painted as the "weak on defense, pussy Democrat" that Republicans had been successful with in the past.

And none of them complained the least little bit until after the counter-insurgency began after the fall of Saddam. Then, when the liberal wing of the party got apopleptic after our setback in Falujah - then that is when they began using tortured logic to make them appear justified in their newfound opposition.

It has always amazed me how so many supposedly smart (or educated) Democrat supporters can simultaneously hold that Bush was an idiot and yet that Bush somehow managed to hoodwink the Congressional Democrats.

They were simply exercising political expediency of the worst kind.

I was against the war in Iraq from day 1 and will never vote for a dem that voted for it.

[amazinblue]

Senator Hillary Clinton's vote to give President Bush the right to wage a premptive strike against Iraq cost her the democratic nomination...

Steve,

You're entitled to your opinon and vote which I respect. I respectfully disagree with your perspective here. There was a train crusing through town called "The Obama Express" - and everyone was on it.

There was an overall "malaise" within the party and a feeling, IMO, that it was time for the "Clinton dynasty" to return to fix the mess the "Bush dynasty" created - "again".

Well, I don't think there was anything Hillary could have done. Had she voted against the resolution, things might have been slightly different - but, I really don't think the difference would have been material. The real credit belongs to Axelrod and his ingenious recognition that winning the caucus states would be critical to Obama winning the nomination.

And, both you and RealSchool talk about the initial resolution for action against the attackers of September 11th - which included Iraq. I have a question for you. How did Obama actually vote when the resolution was presented to Congress?


oh yeah... I forgot --- he wasn't even IN the Senate when the initial vote was cast...

[The Michigan Man]

I was against the war in Iraq from day 1 and will never vote for a dem that voted for it.

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. "
-John Stuart Mill, English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)

[RealSchool]

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. "
-John Stuart Mill, English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)



"Nothing is more pathetic than a chicken hawk (Michigan Man) willing to send others off to war but is not willing to go himself"
-Realschool 2009

[amazinblue]

"Nothing is more pathetic than a chicken hawk (Michigan Man) willing to send others off to war but is not willing to go himself"
-Realschool 2009

RealSchool,

FYI - I'm registered, as is required by law, for the Armed Services, and should I be requested to serve in our military, I will.

I've had the privilige of working for individuals who have been in the Armed Services, one was a naval aviator who was a wing commander on a carrier.

I have the utmost respect for those who serve. Their missions are not always easy, and they put themselves in harms way to protect Americans and liberties we live under each and every day.

[RealSchool]

RealSchool,

FYI - I'm registered, as is required by law, for the Armed Services, and should I be requested to serve in our military, I will.

I've had the privilige of working for individuals who have been in the Armed Services, one was a naval aviator who was a wing commander on a carrier.

I have the utmost respect for those who serve. Their missions are not always easy, and they put themselves in harms way to protect Americans and liberties we live under each and every day.

Chicken Hawk.

[Mike Furley]

"Nothing is more pathetic than a chicken hawk (Michigan Man) willing to send others off to war but is not willing to go himself"



Nice sophistry. Let's extrapolate this reasoning a little further:

Democrats want to ban vouchers that help poor families send their kids to a private school so their kids aren't forced to go to an unsafe, failing, shitty public school. Maybe Obama should pull his daughters out of Sidwell's and send their asses to D.C. public schools instead.

Democrats want to stifle public discourse by reintroducing the Fairness Doctrine or other similar measures that achieve the same end to make talk radio less conservative. Let Democrats do the same thing with Network television since NBC, ABC, and CBS are all liberal.

See where this is going? For good fun, mull this one over:

If you're so adamant in your opposition to war, why don't you go volunteer to be a human shield for our nation's enemies. Go sit in a school or hospital adjacent to where Iran, Hezbollah, or Hamas have erected a missile launch site. Your're just a chickendove, Real School.

[RealSchool]

I called you out pussy, what war have you fought in??? Simple question. ^^

Don't be mad at me, be mad at yourself.

[Mike Furley]

I called you out pussy. When have you ever been a human shield? You're not really down with the struggle for peace unless you've been a human shield.

[RealSchool]

I called you out pussy. When have you ever been a human shield? You're not really down with the struggle for peace unless you've been a human shield.


You got me all wrong. I could not care less about those people over there. What I do care about is that we were attacked by someone else other than Iraq and yet we made it the main front of the war. That IMO was a mistake.

Still friends?

[byebyelloyd]

[QUOTE=byebyelloyd;9414]

Yup dying party, but how would you know you aren't even patriotic enough to get off the couch to vote.

you just topped your own fucking stupidity

[RealSchool]

Stick with posts about Lions football, this section is for voters only. ^^^^

[chriswebber]

Real School, get a life. Just because you served in the military doesn't make you more patriotic. I'm the first generation in 4 that hasn't served in the US army. Why, because my father asked me not to join. Even so, I'm registered with Selective Services and have contemplated joining the USCG as an officer. (Direct Commission, Engineer :D ). If you are so against this war, why don't you write Obama and tell him to end it? He's the one waging war now. :eek:

[RealSchool]

So no war stories just as I thought. What a chicken hawk. And no serving doesn't make you more patriotic but damn if you feel so strong about something be a man and step up and do your part.

I also love how you all say I am signed up for selcetive service, whoopie fucking dooo. So you filled out a card and sent it back, wow, that takes real effort. I am sure Bin Laden is scared knowing you took the time to do that.

[Mike Furley]

Still sticking with your name calling, Real School? You are embarrassing yourself.

I'm still waiting for the details of your effforts to stop the war. Have you sung a song for peace? Hold a bake sale? Waste a Sunday afternoon standing on a street corner with a few other protesters holding up some clever signs like "Bush Lied - People Died" or "No Blood for Oil"? It seems to me you are aren't down with the struggle. Just a real chicken dove.

[RealSchool]

Still sticking with your name calling, Real School? You are embarrassing yourself.

I'm still waiting for the details of your effforts to stop the war. Have you sung a song for peace? Hold a bake sale? Waste a Sunday afternoon standing on a street corner with a few other protesters holding up some clever signs like "Bush Lied - People Died" or "No Blood for Oil"? It seems to me you are aren't down with the struggle. Just a real chicken dove.

You are just pissed that you thought you were going to have your own little section of this website to post all your right wing bullshit and no one would call you out for it. Will guess what, I did. Face it man, you are a fraud that thinks having a Jesus fish on your car makes you religous and a support our troops bumper sticker means real support.

Hypocrite, chicken hawk, fraud. Yes name calling that sure seems to fit well.

[RealSchool]

Real School, get a life. Just because you served in the military doesn't make you more patriotic. I'm the first generation in 4 that hasn't served in the US army. Why, because my father asked me not to join. Even so, I'm registered with Selective Services and have contemplated joining the USCG as an officer. (Direct Commission, Engineer :D ). If you are so against this war, why don't you write Obama and tell him to end it? He's the one waging war now. :eek:

I almost forgot, are you such a child that your father telling you not to do something changes your life plans? This is going to sting but there will come a time in your life when you will need to get off the tit of your parents and produce something. You know, be an adult.

[The Michigan Man]

"Nothing is more pathetic than a chicken hawk (Michigan Man) willing to send others off to war but is not willing to go himself"
-Realschool 2009

Let's make a bet - for every medal I have pinned to my military uniform that is hanging in my closet, I get to pin it somewhere on your bloated body. You're going to look like a fucking pin cushion, pinko...

[Mike Furley]

You are just pissed that you thought you were going to have your own little section of this website to post all your right wing bullshit and no one would call you out for it. Will guess what, I did. Face it man, you are a fraud that thinks having a Jesus fish on your car makes you religous and a support our troops bumper sticker means real support.

Hypocrite, chicken hawk, fraud. Yes name calling that sure seems to fit well.

When have I ever said it was my goal or thought to have my own little section? I comment on stuff I read or observe that I find interesting. I welcome a good discussion.

You think I only want to live in an echo chamber where me and some like minded people just preach to the choir?

Dude, I'm an OSU fan on a Michigan board. I come here because I enjoy a good discussion with people who have different views and opinions than me. I even enjoy a spirited discussion. It's through sharing different viewpoints that allows for learning.

You sir however are a disappointment. Your arguments are not cogent - they are vapid. Worse, when you become frustrated with your inability to make a mature argument, you resort to sophistry and name calling.

[chriswebber]

I almost forgot, are you such a child that your father telling you not to do something changes your life plans? This is going to sting but there will come a time in your life when you will need to get off the tit of your parents and produce something. You know, be an adult.

Ok, obviously you don't have a good relationship with your father. I'm sorry. But in life you have one father and it is typical to respect his wishes. He joined the military in a time of need, as did his father. Both are proud of their country, but also have seen war and destruction. They joined because they had to, they served because they wanted a free USA. Once in battle, they could surrender, but they fought. I'm not sure how many Germans and Japanesse my grandfather killed, but I'm thankful for each one he did. I do not know how many friends he buried on battle fields, but I thank them everyday. He kept me from going to war or living in a repressed country. Now, someone who would sacrifice that much before I was even born deserves my respect. I am not sucking off their tit. Obviously you lake the maturity to understand respect and accepting wisdom? Joining the military does not make you a man. Having the wisdom to understand right from wrong does.

I could be a direct commissioned military officer if I chose. Part of the reason I haven't is President Obama. You see, he's a politician who I cannot trust. He says one thing, and does another. Last place I want to end up is in the Bay of Pigs or Somalia.

You're childish, immature, and lacking a concept of reality. The only thing that matters in your life is you. You voted for the person who promised you the most. Everyone one is entitled to their own vote, but as for me, I vote for my grandchildren whom I do not know. I hope I make the same decisions that my grandfather made for me. I have a feeling you never had a relationship with your father, grandfather, or any man who made a sacrifice for you.

I will not insult you or be vulgar to get my point across. The truth speaks for itself. I just hope you realize it before it's too late. Your attitude has made you bitter. Your ideals have made you immature. One day, when you realize the big picture, I will accept your apology.

I do not think America is that bad. I cannot remember when the last time I had to worry about getting food. I do not remember the last time I worried about the Military coming in trucks to 'enlist' me. The fact that ideals such as idiotic as yours can be freely discussed means that the Bill of Rights exist. I do not really think we need hope and change. I think we need a reality check. We need to think about our children, and their children.

[amazinblue]

When did Obama ever say "No earmarks"? I think you have it mixed up....no, I know you have it mixed up. It was McCain's old ass that repeatedly referenced "No earmarks", and tax cuts with his proposal. Get your lie straight. Why don't you provide some facts to support this crap you've posted, or stop posting.

I've been trying to ask you for months and you won't answer my question.....has anyone ever told you that you look just like Tom Terrific?

Buzz,

One thing that Obama did say was that he would go through the budget "line by line" and eliminate expenditures that did not help the economy recover. It's not my intention to say "who said what when" - but, Obama's certainly referenced a more detailed analysis of the budget, and the inference I had (when I read that) was that he would identify "pork" and remove it from the budget.

Yes, McCain did note the need to remove earmarks from legislation. And, it honestly did not reflect well on Obama that there were earmarks in the budget that were originally attached to his name.

I was completely surprised that no one in the media reviewed the appropriations bill that helped "save" the financial institutions in October. It wouldn't have been difficult, and I'm sure that voters would have appreciated knowing who (particularly those running for re-election) would have had the gall to attach earmark funding to legislation that was so critical to our country's financial stability.

This is all water over the dam, IMO. The general status of action - or inaction - and partisan nature of politics in Washington digusts me. And, guilt belongs to both parties. Period.

My concern is that it's going to be at least two MORE years before any real reform is pursued in Washington.

[amazinblue]

There have been references to RealSchool's military service. Perhaps I missed a post, but - I haven't read anything that describes his service - which branch of the military for how long, and his dates of service.

RealSchool,

Please do not attempt to analyze the relationship that anyone here had with their father - or anyone else. Your childish behavior and name calling belong in an elementary school.

If you want to know about me - and why I haven's served actively in the military, and the relationship with my father - let me educate you. My father was a prisoner of war for four years. When I applied to college, my initial thought was to go "ROTC". My father shared his experiences with me - and, asked me to do everything I could to pay for my college without committing myself to any organization.

During my summers - I worked 12 hours a day - with one day off every two weeks in order to save enough money to pay for my schooling.

So, I could care less what you think. I suggest you look in the mirror and face the challenges of your upbringing and state of your life today. My father was proud of my accomplishments and dedication to my craft. I continue to work hard to advance my career and contribute to society in the manner I can. Am I perfect, no - I am not. But, I am one who focuses on improving his stead every day...

[RealSchool]

FYI, I don't read posts over 500 words. It is a sign of arrogance. Please shorten them up and repost. Thanks.

[amazinblue]

FYI, I don't read posts over 500 words. It is a sign of arrogance. Please shorten them up and repost. Thanks.

RealSchool,

The fact that you have a reading comprehension problem and have a problem comprehending anything greater than a "soundbite" shouldn't detract others from posting thoughts that require more detailed thought and explanation to express a point.

And, perhaps reading comprehension isn't your only problem, since I do not believe that any post in this thread has "new" content greater than your self-imposed "post limit" of 500 words. I'm guessing you need some assistance with basic arithmetic as well.

Posts like your most recent one (which I've quoted) just reinforce the impression many of us have of you and your credibility (or lack thereof)...

[chriswebber]

FYI, I don't read posts over 500 words. It is a sign of arrogance. Please shorten them up and repost. Thanks.

I'm beginning to think Real School is in High School and has not registered for the draft. Nor has he ever had experience with anyone serving. I doubt he has ever met someone that served in combat. His body is changing and the hormones are unbalanced.:eek:

[The Michigan Man]

FYI, I don't read posts over 500 words. It is a sign of arrogance. Please shorten them up and repost. Thanks.

Comic book scholar...

[RealSchool]

There have been references to RealSchool's military service. Perhaps I missed a post, but - I haven't read anything that describes his service - which branch of the military for how long, and his dates of service.

RealSchool,

Please do not attempt to analyze the relationship that anyone here had with their father - or anyone else. Your childish behavior and name calling belong in an elementary school.

If you want to know about me - and why I haven's served actively in the military, and the relationship with my father - let me educate you. My father was a prisoner of war for four years. When I applied to college, my initial thought was to go "ROTC". My father shared his experiences with me - and, asked me to do everything I could to pay for my college without committing myself to any organization.

During my summers - I worked 12 hours a day - with one day off every two weeks in order to save enough money to pay for my schooling.

So, I could care less what you think. I suggest you look in the mirror and face the challenges of your upbringing and state of your life today. My father was proud of my accomplishments and dedication to my craft. I continue to work hard to advance my career and contribute to society in the manner I can. Am I perfect, no - I am not. But, I am one who focuses on improving his stead every day...

This is good stuff. You claim you don't care what I think yet you post both the resume for you and your father. Okay, kinda weird but whatever makes you feel better I am cool with.

I applaud you for being your own man unlike chriswebber, but please keep your mental illness and sharing for your shrink.

[RealSchool]

Ok, obviously you don't have a good relationship with your father. I'm sorry. But in life you have one father and it is typical to respect his wishes. He joined the military in a time of need, as did his father. Both are proud of their country, but also have seen war and destruction. They joined because they had to, they served because they wanted a free USA. Once in battle, they could surrender, but they fought. I'm not sure how many Germans and Japanesse my grandfather killed, but I'm thankful for each one he did. I do not know how many friends he buried on battle fields, but I thank them everyday. He kept me from going to war or living in a repressed country. Now, someone who would sacrifice that much before I was even born deserves my respect. I am not sucking off their tit. Obviously you lake the maturity to understand respect and accepting wisdom? Joining the military does not make you a man. Having the wisdom to understand right from wrong does.

I could be a direct commissioned military officer if I chose. Part of the reason I haven't is President Obama. You see, he's a politician who I cannot trust. He says one thing, and does another. Last place I want to end up is in the Bay of Pigs or Somalia.

You're childish, immature, and lacking a concept of reality. The only thing that matters in your life is you. You voted for the person who promised you the most. Everyone one is entitled to their own vote, but as for me, I vote for my grandchildren whom I do not know. I hope I make the same decisions that my grandfather made for me. I have a feeling you never had a relationship with your father, grandfather, or any man who made a sacrifice for you.

I will not insult you or be vulgar to get my point across. The truth speaks for itself. I just hope you realize it before it's too late. Your attitude has made you bitter. Your ideals have made you immature. One day, when you realize the big picture, I will accept your apology.

I do not think America is that bad. I cannot remember when the last time I had to worry about getting food. I do not remember the last time I worried about the Military coming in trucks to 'enlist' me. The fact that ideals such as idiotic as yours can be freely discussed means that the Bill of Rights exist. I do not really think we need hope and change. I think we need a reality check. We need to think about our children, and their children.


A 1000 word post that could have been reduced to, "I am a chicken hawk".

What a load of bullshit that comes off your keyboard. Face it you are scared to serve this country and you use excuses to justify your guilt.

My father taught me to be a man, you are a child livng a "what if" life. Sad and pathetic.

[amazinblue]

This is good stuff. You claim you don't care what I think yet you post both the resume for you and your father. Okay, kinda weird but whatever makes you feel better I am cool with.

I applaud you for being your own man unlike chriswebber, but please keep your mental illness and sharing for your shrink.

RealSchool,

My resume would cover a few pages - and I certainly didn't include anything substantial about it, or my father's - here.

I'm guessing that the third job I had in life - which occurred in high school - is right about where your career is right now - some fast food joint. I think one of the differences is - I've moved on, and never felt that was my life's potential. You, on the other hand, may have reached the pinnacle of your career...

Good luck in your endeavors... Adios...

[RealSchool]

RealSchool,

My resume would cover a few pages - and I certainly didn't include anything substantial about it, or my father's - here.

I'm guessing that the third job I had in life - which occurred in high school - is right about where your career is right now - some fast food joint. I think one of the differences is - I've moved on, and never felt that was my life's potential. You, on the other hand, may have reached the pinnacle of your career...

Good luck in your endeavors... Adios...

Several pages? You sound like a job skipping dead beat to me.

[chriswebber]

A 1000 word post that could have been reduced to, "I am a chicken hawk".

What a load of bullshit that comes off your keyboard. Face it you are scared to serve this country and you use excuses to justify your guilt.

My father taught me to be a man, you are a child livng a "what if" life. Sad and pathetic.

Yes, you're right. Could you please guide me in my life. You are all knowing. You are all wise. We should never go to war. If someone punches us, we should send them flowers. It's all our fault. Battered woman syndrome perhaps?

[RealSchool]

Ok guys this is getting old.

[amazinblue]

Several pages? You sound like a job skipping dead beat to me.

RealSchool,

When you accomplish things - a resume (some people call them a CV - or curriculum vitae) is a good instrument to communicate your experiences and accomplishments. I've worked hard, I've accomplished a great deal, and my resume reflects that.

I'm certain of two things - one, I've accomplished more in my career and life than you have... and, two, your immature posts no longer merit a response of any kind from me...

[RealSchool]

RealSchool,

When you accomplish things - a resume is a good instrument to communicate your experiences and accomplishments. I've worked hard, I've accomplished a great deal, and my resume reflects that.

I'm certain of two things - one, I've accomplished more in my career and life than you have... and, two, your immature posts no longer merit a response of any kind from me...

I made 174k last year and just got a 11% raise in a down economy. Keep dreaming mr cubicle.

[chriswebber]

I made 174k last year and just got a 11% raise in a down economy. Keep dreaming mr cubicle.

Selling drugs to children at the playground is no feat. 174k wow - you're middle class. Welcome to the ranks buddy. The used car market that good? I hate to tell you this, but you're not rich until you don't earn a salary. Investments my friend, the easiest way to do well without work. I could make $1 a year, yet still live very nicely. :cool:

[The Michigan Man]

Several pages? You sound like a job skipping dead beat to me.

Actually, for people who have accomplished a lot at work and served in numerous positions within a single company (due to lateral moves and promotions), it is very easy to have a resume that is 2-3 pages long.

Does the tycoon that makes 174k a year (pesos perhaps?) have a half page resume?

[RealSchool]

Actually, for people who have accomplished a lot at work and served in numerous positions within a single company (due to lateral moves and promotions), it is very easy to have a resume that is 2-3 pages long.

Does the tycoon that makes 174k a year (pesos perhaps?) have a half page resume?

I guess you can't count, several means more than 2 to 3 pages. You really think mr cubicle has a great resume, please. That is as funny as your claim of having a uniform hanging in your closet.