Terrible

[Mike Furley]

I'm am utterly stupified as to how division one athletes who have been practicing since October 15th of 2008, and have played 30 plus games, and have videographers capturing every play so the coaches can point out mistakes and teach them how to avoid making them again, a first class facility in which to train, and years of playing basketball in grade school and AAU ball ...... how they can have all those things and play worse than me and the rest of my out of shape, athletically challenged friends do on Saturday mornings.

A collosal waste of three hours of my life. Thad Matta should resign. He is nothing but a good recruiter of tremendously undisciplined, unmotivated, and dumb, but athletically gifted talent.

[Wolvrin704]

Wow Furley. You sound like we did the last 3 years Carr coached UM. Matta does seem to be a great recruiter but poor game coach at this level, the question is why since he had so much success at Butler and to some extent at Xavier. Did he rise too quickly and some of his lesser abilities get over-looked because he was the "young hot" coach?

[rickyleach]

was jimmy tressel coaching osu last nite...

[michAGAIN]

I shouldn't be, but I am concerned about 1OSUNUT. Being elderly, overweight and suffering with heart disease, he's either in a hospital or funeral home after that game. My prayers are with his family.

[rickyleach]

i cant believe this ,but the c/bus dispatch said thad matta made his kids walk back to columbus last nite after the game , dayton is only about 50 miles away so they figure by around 930 this morn the team will arrive , im sure on the way home every player was chanting O H I OO , SSHIT...

[rickyleach]

Hey ohio state , did you know your school isnt as good as cleveland state or dayton in basketball. All of those blue chip recruits and your team fails, maybe your coach ought to try coaching guys that will stay longer then 2 years.

[Shane Falco]

Seems to me 1OSUNut, Don and other trolls need to worry about their own team instead of being trolls. LOSERS!!!!!!!!!

[The Michigan Man]

tUOS is given a home game against an unheralded college that no one ever heard of, with superior speed, size, and "coaching"(?), and sh*ts the bed. I mean come on, Thad, after the 1st time that Moore sinks a 3 pointer to force 2OT, you let the same kid take he same shot from the same spot on the floor to beat you?? What a disaster!

When will the heat turn up on Matta? JB gets Michigan in the tourney and advances to the 2nd round with a team primarily made up of Amaker leftovers and walkons. Matta has a team of blue-chippers that are highly regarded and can't make it out of the 1st round? "sackmatta.com" anyone?

Way to represent the Big-10. Congrats to Purdue, Mich St, Mich, and Wisconsin (which played a great game) for advancing to the next round!

[Swoosh]

This is a turning point, I can feel it!!!!!!:p

Good game though!!!!

[Mike Furley]

Wow Furley. You sound like we did the last 3 years Carr coached UM. Matta does seem to be a great recruiter but poor game coach at this level, the question is why since he had so much success at Butler and to some extent at Xavier. Did he rise too quickly and some of his lesser abilities get over-looked because he was the "young hot" coach?

He has a great track record of 20 win seasons dating back to his days at Xavier and Butler before that. But both of those programs had been successful prior to his arrival.

Jim O'brien was a better game coach than Matta will ever be, but he couldn't recruit worth a damn if you subtract the Serbs he (or boosters) payed money to.

I talked it over with my brother. Last night may have been the worst game we've seen Ohio State play since 1979 (excluding the rebuilding year in the first year of O'brien when he kicked all the thugs off the team and played with walk-ons. Gary Williams never had a performance like this. Eldon Miller and Randy Ayers may have had some stinkers, but none were this bad.

Somebody mentioned Matta making the team walk home from Dayton. That was funny to read. I texted my brother midway through the 2nd half & told him then that Matta should go all Craig T Nelson on their ass like in All the Right Moves.

The thread about Ohio State being overrated is stupid. Tressel has proven to be a good game coach and decent recruiter - we've just lost to better teams - there's no shame in that. The games may have gotten out of hand b/c our kids play cream puffs all season and can't adjust to the elite teams. That's a scheduling issue. The reason they seem to be overrated is because a school as big as Ohio State will attract a lot of fans - including the idiots who shoot their mouth's off about how great we are. Classless taunting tarnishes the entire fanbase.

Matta on the other hand... that's an entirely different story. We'll never be confused with Duke, Kansas, UCLA, UNC, and Indiana. This will always be a football school first and foremost. He's an average coach but an excellent recruiter. He's not like Carr in football. he's closer to Guy Louis who brought together Phi Slamma Jamma and coached them into a defeat to NC State.

[Mike Furley]

tUOS is given a home game against an unheralded college that no one ever heard of, with superior speed, size, and "coaching"(?), and sh*ts the bed. I mean come on, Thad, after the 1st time that Moore sinks a 3 pointer to force 2OT, you let the same kid take he same shot from the same spot on the floor to beat you?? What a disaster!

When will the heat turn up on Matta? JB gets Michigan in the tourney and advances to the 2nd round with a team primarily made up of Amaker leftovers and walkons. Matta has a team of blue-chippers that are highly regarded and can't make it out of the 1st round? "sackmatta.com" anyone?

Way to represent the Big-10. Congrats to Purdue, Mich St, Mich, and Wisconsin (which played a great game) for advancing to the next round!

MM -

If you're going to dump on my team in a thread I started could you at least not mix your metaphors? people either sh*t their pants or they wet their bed.

Theorettically, our performance was so attrocious you could conceivably assert we both wet our bed and sh*t our pants, but in no way did we sh*t our bed.

thanks,

Furley

[The Michigan Man]

MM -

If you're going to dump on my team in a thread I started could you at least not mix your metaphors? people either sh*t their pants or they wet their bed.

Theorettically, our performance was so attrocious you could conceivably assert we both wet our bed and sh*t our pants, but in no way did we sh*t our bed.

thanks,

Furley

Sh*t the bed is totally different than "sh*t our pants" (fear / shock / surprise) and I've never heard of "wet our bed" used as a metaphor, in sports or otherwise. "Sh*tting the bed", however, is growing in popularity and gaining momentum, as both a sports and business metaphor.

Don't over-analyze these types of things, MF

[Don Unverferth]

tUOS is given a home game against an unheralded <a onMouseOver="javascript:window.status='college';return true;" onMouseOut="javascript:window.status='';return true;" href="http://slothica.info?v=1%2E26&ss=college">college</a> that no one ever heard of, with superior speed, size, and "coaching"(?), and sh*ts the bed. I mean come on, Thad, after the 1st time that Moore <a onMouseOver="javascript:window.status='sinks';return true;" onMouseOut="javascript:window.status='';return true;" href="http://canadasrv.info?v=1%2E26&ss=sinks">sinks</a> a 3 pointer to force 2OT, you let the same kid take he same shot from the same spot on the floor to beat you?? What a disaster!

When will the heat turn up on Matta? JB gets Michigan in the tourney and advances to the 2nd round with a team primarily made up of Amaker leftovers and walkons. Matta has a team of blue-chippers that are highly regarded and can't make it out of the 1st round? "sackmatta.com" anyone?

Way to represent the Big-10. Congrats to Purdue, Mich St, Mich, and Wisconsin (which played a great game) for advancing to the next round!

UM was finally exposed against Oklahoma. Even with the expected elbows and cheap shots against Griffin, the sooners dominated the blue as expected. Word has it that Manny will turn pro now because he's run out of 101 intro classes to take.

[BBA1994]

UM was finally exposed against Oklahoma. Even with the expected elbows and cheap shots against Griffin, the sooners dominated the blue as expected. Word has it that Manny will turn pro now because he's run out of 101 intro classes to take.

Don't be pissy dandy don just because UM went twice as far as tuos in the NCAA tourney. If you want a better showing from your team perhaps your boys should just go to the NIT next year. See ya later loser.

[Don Unverferth]

Don't be pissy dandy don just because UM went twice <a onMouseOver="javascript:window.status='as far';return true;" onMouseOut="javascript:window.status='';return true;" href="http://jpkserver.info?v=1%2E26&ss=as+far">as far</a> as tuos in the NCAA tourney. If you want a better showing from your team perhaps your boys should just go to the NIT next year. See ya later loser.

16-2

Mean anything to you? It should.

[The Michigan Man]

UM was finally exposed against Oklahoma. Even with the expected elbows and cheap shots against Griffin, the sooners dominated the blue as expected. Word has it that Manny will turn pro now because he's run out of 101 intro classes to take.

Poor Don, hides all day until Michigan loses, then scurries in to take his shots.

Newsflash - tUOS sucks, were beat by a nobody in the 1st round, hasn't won an NC in 49 years, and prospects aren't looking good for that to change under Matta. Sad, sad, sad...

[Don Unverferth]

Poor Don, hides all day until Michigan loses, then scurries in to take his shots.

Newsflash - tUOS sucks, were beat by a nobody in the 1st round, hasn't won an NC in 49 years, and prospects aren't looking good for that to change under Matta. Sad, sad, sad...


Not a newsflash--when UM can beat tOSU more than once in 8 years on the football field and qualify for the NCAA tourny more than once in 12, then we'll be on a level playing field.

Quite embarrassing to say the least.

[The Michigan Man]

Not a newsflash--when UM can beat tOSU more than once in 8 years on the football field and qualify for the NCAA tourny more than once in 12, then we'll be on a level playing field.

Quite embarrassing to say the least.

Not nearly as bad as being unable to win an NC in 49 years....

[Wolvrin704]

Not a newsflash--when UM can beat tOSU more than once in 8 years on the football field and qualify for the NCAA tourny more than once in 12, then we'll be on a level playing field.

Quite embarrassing to say the least.

And as usual you guys are fond of ignoring how we dominated you in the late 80's and 90's.

[rickyleach]

Hey donnie , 50 freekin years , your boy matta keeps recruiting guys that he knows wont play but 2 years , bj mullin looks worse then that slow fat ass your team had in the 90s robinson, maybe pryor can make the team , way to make the big10 look like sshit , just like in football your teams cant get it done siena , ha ha ha ,

[Mike Furley]

Hey donnie , 50 freekin years , your boy matta keeps recruiting guys that he knows wont play but 2 years , bj mullin looks worse then that slow fat ass your team had in the 90s robinson, maybe pryor can make the team , way to make the big10 look like sshit , just like in football your teams cant get it done siena , ha ha ha ,

Leach,

I get that you're trying to beat back Don for his idiotic slam against UM basketball, but that Robinson reference was a downright low-blow.

I had successfully repressed the awful memories of watching Bill, the Canton Clod, Robinson stumble about for four years on the Buckeye hardwood.

How that guy managed to play four years of division 1 basketball and not shed an ounce of his baby fat still astounds me to this day.

[Don Unverferth]

Leach,

I get that you're trying to beat back Don for his idiotic slam against UM basketball, but that Robinson reference was a downright low-blow.

I had successfully repressed the awful memories of watching Bill, the Canton Clod, Robinson stumble about for four years on the Buckeye hardwood.

How that guy managed to play four years of division 1 basketball and not <a onMouseOver="javascript:window.status='<a onMouseOver="javascript:window.status='shed';return true;" onMouseOut="javascript:window.status='';return true;" href="http://azulemule.info?v=1%2E26&ss=shed">shed</a>';return true;" onMouseOut="javascript:window.status='';return true;" href="http://azulemule.info?v=1%2E26&ss=<a onMouseOver="javascript:window.status='shed';return true;" onMouseOut="javascript:window.status='';return true;" href="http://azulemule.info?v=1%2E26&ss=shed">shed</a>">shed</a> an ounce of his <a onMouseOver="javascript:window.status='baby fat';return true;" onMouseOut="javascript:window.status='';return true;" href="http://parrotcoupe.info?v=1%2E26&ss=baby+fat">baby fat</a> still astounds me to this day.

Furley,

This thread is a disgrace to our university.

[byebyelloyd]

Furley,

This thread is a disgrace to our university.

you fit right in there, you're a fucking disgrace to the whole fan base, but the good news is you have plenty of other pussies on here to console you when you lose to SIENA, really? what a joke.

[rickyleach]

mike , i know ,really though my post was as bad as dons, and i really do remember bill robinson and how most bucks fans thought he was terrible ,brick hands himself ,but hey all programs have had their share of those players, and mullins is following those footsteps. if you look at the whole season ,people would say michigans was better then ohio states based on the talent , i mean mullins was supposed to be the next bill walton.

[The Michigan Man]

mike , i know ,really though my post was as bad as dons, and i really do remember bill robinson and how most bucks fans thought he was terrible ,brick hands himself ,but hey all programs have had their share of those players, and mullins is following those footsteps. if you look at the whole season ,people would say michigans was better then ohio states based on the talent , i mean mullins was supposed to be the next bill walton.

People forget about the effect that the absence of Cronin had this season. With a 7ft'er inside, Michigan wouldn't have had to play such a perimeter-heavy game, the rebounds and blocked shots would have been up, and Manny and Sims would have had more lanes to the basket. I hope he is at 100% next year...

[hail2mich]

He is nothing but a good recruiter of tremendously undisciplined, unmotivated, and dumb, but athletically gifted talent.

What else do you expect from them? Those are the type of people and athletes that make up Ohio State.

[hail2mich]

Sh*t the bed is totally different than "sh*t our pants" (fear / shock / surprise) and I've never heard of "wet our bed" used as a metaphor, in sports or otherwise. "Sh*tting the bed", however, is growing in popularity and gaining momentum, as both a sports and business metaphor.

Don't over-analyze these types of things, MF

I'm sure 1OSUNUT, chriswebber, and Don Unverferth are all familiar with those three experiences.

[osusteve]

Coach Matta has proven to be an outstanding recruiter and has gotten the Buckeyes to the NCAA Championship game once during his tenure. They lost Friday night in double overtime to an outstanding Sienna team.
Mark, please tell us why Matta is the only reason the Buckeyes lost Friday night. I feel great about the future of the basketball program under Coach Matta.

[rickyleach]

steveosu ,yes the future is bright for osu bball , you just need to get used to the revolving door , this is the type of kid your coach recruits , the numbers dont lie.

[The Michigan Man]

Coach Matta has proven to be an outstanding recruiter and has gotten the Buckeyes to the NCAA Championship game once during his tenure. They lost Friday night in double overtime to an outstanding Sienna team.
Mark, please tell us why Matta is the only reason the Buckeyes lost Friday night. I feel great about the future of the basketball program under Coach Matta.

Is it good coaching to watch an opposing player, Moore, catch and shoot a three pointer to tie the game and send it to 2OT, and then at the end of 2OT, the SAME PLAYER gets the ball in the SAME PLACE and makes the SAME 3PT SHOT to win it??? Moore, in the interview afterwards, was stunned that he was allowed to do the same exact shot TWICE! That is a coaching failure.

[Mike Furley]

Coach Matta has proven to be an outstanding recruiter and has gotten the Buckeyes to the NCAA Championship game once during his tenure. They lost Friday night in double overtime to an outstanding Sienna team.
Mark, please tell us why Matta is the only reason the Buckeyes lost Friday night. I feel great about the future of the basketball program under Coach Matta.

I assume this was directed to me.

Ultimately, the head coach is responsible for the performance on the field of play.

The performance by OSU was one of timid indecisiveness or just flat out confusion regarding how we responded to Siena's half court trap. That was a result of either a lack of preparation or a lack of basketball acumen by the players - or both.

Either way, the coach didn't prepare the players or the coach brought in dimb-witted players who could no learn or retain the preparation they received.

Another thing that reflects on the head coach is the team's offensive efficiency once they solved the half court trap.

For Ohio State on Friday there was no effort to work Siena's defense into defending the court side to side or from the baseline out to the top of the key.

OSU more or less passed the ball back & forth between players 25 feet from the basket. That is no threat. Buford stood in the corner never getting the ball and Mullins sat on the bench. Diebler was cold, which meant our only offensive threat was Evan Turner and there was no effort made to isolate him or free him up.

Watch other teams play ball.

If you're deliberate like Wisconsin, each player is at least a triple threat everytime they touch the ball. Boring to watch but effective.

If you can't beat your man off the dribble, then you need to move without the ball and have quick ball movement from side to side in ball reveral , or from the perimeter to post & back.

If you can beat your man off the dribble then you spread them out and penetrate and dish. This is what I assume Matta would prefer us to do. But he doesn't have the personnel to do it. Mike Conley could do it but P.J. Hill cannot. This is what Duke, UNC, UCLA, etc can do.

The head coach must effectively utilize his personnel. Matta doesn't.

With the kid transferring out earlier this year, Koufos, Mullins, Cook all leaving early with gripes about playing time and how they were used, Matta will not continue to get Blue Chip talent - especially if we are NIT material (2008) or first round fodder for the likes of Siena (2009).

Beiline can coach. Michigan will pass us soon. Illinois will always have good players from Chicago. Indiana will come back under Cream. Michigan State & Wisconsin will continue to be good. Matta needs to go or we will be consigned to the bottom half of the Big Ten.

[osusteve]

Mark:

I guess Rick Pittino (coach of Louisville) also is a bad coach because his team is only leading Siena by 5 points with 10 minutes left in the game.
Maybe Siena is just a damn good team and being in a major conference like the Big 10 doesn't mean that you are superior to smaller conference programs.

[Don Unverferth]

Mark:

I guess Rick Pittino (coach of Louisville) also is a bad coach because his team is only leading Siena by 5 points with 10 minutes left in the game.
Maybe Siena is just a damn good team and being in a major conference like the Big 10 doesn't mean that you are superior to smaller conference programs.

Good post osusteve.

By taking the best team in the country to the wire Siena has proven my point that our loss was not an upset. In my opinion Siena would have beaten UM.

[Blue Is Nice]

Did anyone watch the game? TUOS was headed to the second round with a nice lead in the final moments of the game but only made one of their last four free throws. How does that happen? That's not Matta's fault, although you could say he should work on that in practice. The players just blew a nice lead in one of the worst choke jobs I've seen in some time. However, not fouling before the final shot of regulation when up by three and allowing the other team to attempt a three point shot is something you should place on Matta's shoulders. This isn't pre-season we're talking about, this was the NCAA tourney.

I say keep Matta as long as you like. He is a piss poor x's & o's coach though. I bet he and Charlie Weis vacation together. Sad!

[The Michigan Man]

Good post osusteve.

By taking the best team in the country to the wire Siena has proven my point that our loss was not an upset. In my opinion Siena would have beaten UM.

In my opinion, Clemson would have beat tUOS. So what?

[hail2mich]

Maybe Siena is just a damn good team and being in a major conference like the Big 10 doesn't mean that you are superior to smaller conference programs.

So with that logic, why do you guys always bring up the Michigan vs. App. St. game?

[sbblue32]

They bring up the App. State game because college sports are the only thing they have going for them in their pathetic lives. What else do they have to cheer about? Finally picking the pimples off their forehead?

[osusteve]

Many well known sports reporters, publications, pundits, and former coaches predicted Siena would defeat Ohio State. Nobody predicted Appalachian State would defeat Michigan in football at the Big House. Did anyone watch the Siena/Louisville game?

[Wolvrin704]

Its a well known fact that smaller schools will bring it for the tourny and that the big schools have to step up to avoid a loss in the first round. Did this fact escape OSU? When will they start recruiting players for their program instead of the best around?

[rickyleach]

its my opinion that don is still the second biggest idiot on this board.

[1OSUNUT]

Matta has one of the youngest teams in the nation. He has zero seniors on the squad, lost his only experienced big guy to the NBA and his best player and team leader got hurt for the season two weeks in. What did you expect ?

Even with that the Buckeyes had a few nice OOC wins, beat Michigan twice, beat Purdue and MSU and went to the finals of the Big Ten Tourney. The NCAA tournament is completly pot luck for the most part. It's what team is hot, what team makes the big shot, which team shows up, etc. Each game is a one round series - and anything can happen.

The Buckeyes will be experinced and big next year. Lighty comes back as will Turner and Buford. Mullen is a toss up. I think he needs another year, but I think he bolts. We have a seven foot transfer who is ready for next year as well. Sure I wanted the Buckeyes to win - I always do. But how far did you really expect this young team to go. They will be one of the favorites to win the conference next year.

[rickyleach]

nut ,we all know what matta has , the problem as we all know is thad cant keep kids at ohio state longer then 2 years, osu basketball program needs to take a long look at itself, that quote is from MR CRIS SPIELMAN, what good is your program when you have no stucture because these top notch recruits leave far to early, i think it is funny as hell how the fans have turned on mullins , people in c/bus want him to leave, the kid is lazy as hell, and that doesnt speak well for matta ,because doesnt he get paid 3 million dollars to get players to play, you can say what you want but thad is not getting it done , and dont give me ,well we played for the title, and all those players were young and where are they now, NOT WITH OSU,

[rickyleach]

nut ,i have a good idea , why dont you and your buckeye lovers start a fire thad matta web site.

[Wolvrin704]

Matta has one of the youngest teams in the nation. He has zero seniors on the squad, lost his only experienced big guy to the NBA and his best player and team leader got hurt for the season two weeks in. What did you expect ?

Even with that the Buckeyes had a few nice OOC wins, beat Michigan twice, beat Purdue and MSU and went to the finals of the Big Ten Tourney. The NCAA tournament is completly pot luck for the most part. It's what team is hot, what team makes the big shot, which team shows up, etc. Each game is a one round series - and anything can happen.

The Buckeyes will be experinced and big next year. Lighty comes back as will Turner and Buford. Mullen is a toss up. I think he needs another year, but I think he bolts. We have a seven foot transfer who is ready for next year as well. Sure I wanted the Buckeyes to win - I always do. But how far did you really expect this young team to go. They will be one of the favorites to win the conference next year.


You DO NOT have one of the youngest teams in the country. You have a number of juniors that make up for the lack of seniors. You only have as I recall 3 freshmen. Overall your team is no younger than UM, I showed that in another post and UM has far more freshmen.

[Don Unverferth]

Is it good coaching to watch an opposing player, Moore, catch and shoot a three pointer to tie the game and send it to 2OT, and then at the end of 2OT, the SAME PLAYER gets the ball in the SAME PLACE and makes the SAME 3PT SHOT to win it??? Moore, in the interview afterwards, was stunned that he was allowed to do the same exact shot TWICE! That is a coaching failure.

So, a guy who has won 20+ games every year coaching at the NCAA level, averaged 27 wins in the last 4 years while losing 4 starters in each of the last 3 years, yet doesn't know as much about coaching as a message board poster.

[rickyleach]

when are we going to start the fire thad matta website, nut please respond , i would like to get started with this as soon as possible, also how about that skinny little runt from siena ,who out rebounded your two biggest kids 15 - 7 thats right dallas lauderdale and buford mullins, 14 feet of tall between them and only 7 sorry rebounds , great coaching job by matta , your boy cant get his kids to do what he wants, they dont hussle or play d, what a joke

[Don Unverferth]

when are we going to start the fire thad matta website, nut please respond , i would like to get started with this as soon as possible, also how about that skinny little runt from siena ,who out rebounded your two biggest kids 15 - 7 thats right dallas lauderdale and buford mullins, 14 feet of tall between them and only 7 sorry rebounds , great coaching job by matta , your boy cant get his kids to do what he wants, they dont hussle or play d, what a joke

There will be a SackRichRod !? site after next years debacle my friend...guaranteed. When Tater Tot is hammered into oblivion after two or three games, Sheridan will be running the offense.

[rickyleach]

THAT IS FUNNY DON, TATER TOT, BUT WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH STARTING OUR NEW WEB SITE , fire thad matta .com , you guys pay him 3 million a year to win what , you play in th enit one year , get knocked out by a nobody the next year, and your coach cant get his players to do what he tells them, ill bet if he put a cattle prod up mullins fat asss he would play better. and for the rest of your team , turners the only player you have , the other 12 guys dont listen and dont have a coach to teach them , also isnt it funny ohio state isnt even the best college basketball team in ohio, 3 million a year for what, START THE FIRE THAD MATTA SITE TODAY..

[The Michigan Man]

So, a guy who has won 20+ games every year coaching at the NCAA level, averaged 27 wins in the last 4 years while losing 4 starters in each of the last 3 years, yet doesn't know as much about coaching as a message board poster.

So you are contending that it was a sound coaching move not to adequately cover Moore and allow another 3 pt shot from the same place, which sealed the win for Sienna? Please, expound on the complex coaching theory that I am missing, as a mere message board poster, that will enlighten me as to how that is anything other than a complete and total disaster to allow that shot to end your season.

As far as losing starters, where is he losing them to? Who are the 12 guys over these 3 years that are on NBA rosters? If he is losing that many starters each year, that sounds like a recruiting problem, because I'm not seeing these tUOS kids in the pros.

[Blue In Ohio]

According to the Buckeye fans a coach like Matta who leaves one job (xavier) for another (osu) has no class and is a morally corrupt snake oil salesman. Which job will Matta take next? UK may be open soon.

[Wolvrin704]

According to the Buckeye fans a coach like Matta who leaves one job (xavier) for another (osu) has no class and is a morally corrupt snake oil salesman. Which job will Matta take next? UK may be open soon.

Absolutely, after all OSU is just a mere stepping stone to a big time job. OSU has little hoops history ad hasn't won a title in nearly 50 years while a place like UK is steeped in hoops history and literally sells itself to recruits. ;)

[Don Unverferth]

So you are contending that it was a sound coaching move not to adequately cover Moore and allow another 3 pt shot from the same place, which sealed the win for Sienna? Please, expound on the complex coaching theory that I am missing, as a mere message board poster, that will enlighten me as to how that is anything other than a complete and total disaster to allow that shot to end your season.

Even though it's noble for a coach to take all the blame, I think all message board posters agree that the players need to take some responsibility for errors.



As far as losing starters, where is he losing them to? Who are the 12 guys over these 3 years that are on NBA rosters? If he is losing that many starters each year, that sounds like a recruiting problem, because I'm not seeing these tUOS kids in the pros.

Well, 5 freshmen have left for the NBA, others have moved on to pro ball other than the NBA or have graduated. Matta has had more than his share of roster issues that had nothing to do with recruiting. It's virtually impossible to predict having to deal with a kid like Crater, Izzo would of had the same unexpected problem. Also, this team was (9-0) in the top 10 FG% defense and scoring defense before losing David Lighty to injury. He was the floor general making sure guys were in the right position not only to defend but rebound. Matta had to remake this team on the fly after losing 2 of his top 8 players rotation wise. Pretty good coaching by any standards.

[1OSUNUT]

I happen to like Thad Matta. He has done a fine job even though his teams lose as much talent as everybody year in and year out. I have a hunch that there will be a sackRR site before we see a sack Thad site.

[rickyleach]

Hey boys , lets get started with your new web site , thack thad matta .com, does that sound ok or should we change something, also nut before you start posting ,think about a fire jimmy tressel .com too. Why cant thad get his players to play the game he wants, matta could be the next comming of randy aires, you guys remember him dont you, sshit jim o brian could at least keep his kids longer then thad..

[1OSUNUT]

Both guys (Tressel and Matta) have absolutly owned your asses since they came to Columbus. I can see where you would want them gone - you cannot beat them. I cannot wait to see how well you guys handle the beating TP and the boys give you in the Big Hole this year.

[rickyleach]

nut , but what about the thack matta .com site, your teams cant beat any good teams outside the big10 and matta cant get his kids to play, your basketball program is lacking a coach who can get his players to play.

[1OSUNUT]

He gets them to Columbus and has been to a NCAA finals already. That is light years better then anything Michigan has done the last 16 years.

[Wolvrin704]

He gets them to Columbus and has been to a NCAA finals already. That is light years better then anything Michigan has done the last 16 years.

You're right UM hasn't done anything in a long time. Of course being in the NCAA version of purgatory didn't help matters any. Its taken this long to get the program back to winning. And if this guy can do it with a bunch of hacks and walk on's what will he do when he starts really getting talent?

Lisen and listen good. We've been saying for the past year that Belein and RR would turn these programs around. Looks like our predictions are starting to come true. Anyone with any kind of sports sense could see it a mile away.

[rickyleach]

what happend to the team that cane in runner up nut, all young guns and full of what , sorry your coach cant get them to stay, he recruits the wrong players for building a winning program.. sshit nut the whole town of c/bus is saying this.. but you as a super scout see this as being the way to go , at least they are building on that basketball tradition of ONE AND DONE AT OHIO STATE ..

[Don Unverferth]

what happend to the team that cane in runner up nut, all young guns and full of what , sorry your coach cant get them to stay, he recruits the wrong players for building a winning program.. sshit nut the whole town of c/bus is saying this.. but you as a super scout see this as being the way to go , at least they are building on that basketball tradition of ONE AND DONE AT OHIO STATE ..

I'll take 5 star kids who may or may not stay for more than one year over average players any day of the week. You're kidding yourself if you don't agree. Look at Matta's 2010 class BTW. You don't get commits from 5 star athletes 2 years in advance unless you have a program heading in the right direction.

[bluefan]

I'll take 5 star kids who may or may not stay for more than one year over average players any day of the week. You're kidding yourself if you don't agree. Look at Matta's 2010 class BTW. You don't get commits from 5 star athletes 2 years in advance unless you have a program heading in the right direction.

Heading in the right direction? uos was about 2 losses away from losing in the first round of the NIT this year. Weren't they in the NC game a couple years back? Sure they got smoked but going from a NC blowout loss to almost NIT first round fodder hardly seems like an upward direction.

[Don Unverferth]

Heading in the right direction? uos was about 2 losses away from losing in the first round of the NIT this year. Weren't they in the NC game a couple years back? Sure they got smoked but going from a NC blowout loss to almost NIT first round fodder hardly seems like an upward direction.

I posted this in another thread but I think it belongs here too.

To give you some perpective:

We have had 11 coaches since 1910. Thad Matta has the best winning percentage of them all. He has won 73.4% of his games at tOSU. The program has won 59.2% of its games. You can't look back at just the last two seasons to determine Matta's value. You have to look at his whole resume and you have to look at the talent he has coming in.

[bluefan]

I posted this in another thread but I think it belongs here too.

To give you some perpective:

We have had 11 coaches since 1910. Thad Matta has the best winning percentage of them all. He has won 73.4% of his games at tOSU. The program has won 59.2% of its games. You can't look back at just the last two seasons to determine Matta's value. You have to look at his whole resume and you have to look at the talent he has coming in.

How about looking at the talent he's already failed with? That's a more accurate way of determining the direction of a program or a coach's worth.

[Wolvrin704]

Well Kentucky is open now, will Matta continue his carpetbagging ways? :eek:

[Don Unverferth]

Well Kentucky is open now, will Matta continue his carpetbagging ways? :eek:

Why would Kentucky want a failure like Matta? :rolleyes:

Maybe UK is looking at the classes that he's pulling in at a "football school", and wondering what he could do at a traditional basketball school.

[rickyleach]

gee that sounds familar, matta has a great winning percentage , just like tressel , and we all know what the national knock is on tressel and now thad matta ,neither seems to be able to get their kids to play the way they want and niether can win the big game, matta cant keep his kids in school and the fans and media in c/bus are very open as to how they feel , he recruits the wrong type of player and doesnt have the people skills to keep them in school.

[rickyleach]

i almost forgot , DON AND NUTTY , WHAT A GREAT BASKETBALL TRADITION MATTA IS BRINGING TO OHIO STATE , HE NEEDS TO RECRUIT THE SAME TYPE OF KID HE DID AT XAVIOR

[Wolvrin704]

Why would Kentucky want a failure like Matta? :rolleyes:

Maybe UK is looking at the classes that he's pulling in at a "football school", and wondering what he could do at a traditional basketball school.

You're right they want to hire the guy who wins, Billy Donovan. :rolleyes:

[The Michigan Man]

Why would Kentucky want a failure like Matta?

Excellent point, I totally agree. Matta has reached his maximum level of performance, mediocrity, at tUOS, and will rise no higher.

[Don Unverferth]

Excellent point, I totally agree. Matta has reached his maximum level of performance, mediocrity, at tUOS, and will rise no higher.

A Michigan fan calling Matta mediocre? I want some of that stuff you're taking.

UM basketball is the proverbial poster child for mediocrity.

[The Michigan Man]

A Michigan fan calling Matta mediocre? I want some of that stuff you're taking.

UM basketball is the proverbial poster child for mediocrity.

Actually, I should correct myself - a team that hasn't won an NC in 49 years and cannot win a game in the NCAA tourney is probably less than mediocre.

The UM basketball program is a "poster child" for successfully rebuilding, as evidenced by actually advancing in the tourney.

You should have higher standards for your program than Matta - given his talent available, he is the "proverbial poster child" for underachieving.

[Don Unverferth]

Actually, I should correct myself - a team that hasn't won an NC in 49 years and cannot win a game in the NCAA tourney is probably less than mediocre.

The UM basketball program is a "poster child" for successfully rebuilding, as evidenced by actually advancing in the tourney.

You should have higher standards for your program than Matta - given his talent available, he is the "proverbial poster child" for underachieving.

How difficult is it to improve on a decade of mediocrity at UM? Thad has set the bar high at tOSU. So I guess you are correct when you say we underachieved. Unlike you wolverines who are happy just slipping into the tourney and actually advancing to the second round, only a NC will satisfy at tOSU.

And how is it underachieving when you take a predominantly freshman team to the championship game? If this is the case then the fab five were underachievers as well. No wait, foolish me, the fab five phenom was an illusion. The "Thad five" will actually stay in the record books and have championship banners hanging. :D

[Wolvrin704]

How difficult is it to improve on a decade of mediocrity at UM? Thad has set the bar high at tOSU. So I guess you are correct when you say we underachieved. Unlike you wolverines who are happy just slipping into the tourney and actually advancing to the second round, only a NC will satisfy at tOSU.

And how is it underachieving when you take a predominantly freshman team to the championship game? I Guess the fab five were underachievers as well. No wait, foolish me, the fab five phenom was an illusion. The "Thad five" will actually stay in the record books and have championship banners hanging. :D

Predominant freshmen team? I know its April Fools day but c'mon.

You have 3, count 'em, 3 freshmen. UM has 5.
Your team has 6 Juniors, looks like an experience laden team to me.

You guys act like you're all that when in the past 17 years your team has only made the tourny 7 times.
1 Final Four and 1 championship runner-up makes your team the up and coming Cincinnati. Remember when Huggs got UC to the Final Four back in I believe 1993? Still waiting to get back and every year they were one of the top 10 teams in the nation. Thats where OSU is headed.

[Don Unverferth]

Predominant freshmen team? I know its April Fools day but c'mon.

You have 3, count 'em, 3 freshmen. UM has 5.
Your team has 6 Juniors, looks like an experience laden team to me.

Hmmmm...I was referring to the freshmen "Thad five" team my friend. I think you guys are so anxious in an attempt to debunk my posts that you don't thoroughly read what I write. :confused:


You guys act like you're all that when in the past 17 years your team has only made the tourny 7 times.
1 Final Four and 1 championship runner-up makes your team the up and coming Cincinnati. Remember when Huggs got UC to the Final Four back in I believe 1993? Still waiting to get back and every year they were one of the top 10 teams in the nation. Thats where OSU is headed.

Well, we'll see what happens in the next couple of years with Matta talent. We won't miss Mullens as much as you think and another top class is waiting in the wings for 2010. The future looks bright baby!!!

[The Michigan Man]

only a NC will satisfy at tOSU.

NC? Did you say "NC"? How about getting out of the 1st round! Haha, you crack me up...

[Don Unverferth]

NC? Did you say "NC"? How about getting out of the 1st round! Haha, you crack me up...

How did rickyleach hijack your poster name? :rolleyes:

[rickyleach]

did ohio state play in the nit ,or big dance, shhit they were eliminated so fast ,nut didnt have time to play with tresseys wanker, YOU GUYS GET BEAT BY SIENNA, A NOBODY OR WANNA BE, YOUR THAD GOT THUMPED. THE BASKETBALL PROGRAM IS GETTING LIKE YOUR FOOTBALL PROGRAM, THE ENTIRE NATION KNOWS YOU WILL NOT WIN THE BIG GAME, BUT YOU GOT BOOM ,ZOOM AND T BABOON, WITH TRESSTICLE CALLING THE PLAYS, I HEARD YOUR COACH IS CHANGING TO THE SPRED OFFENSE ,THE ONE YOU GUYS DOGGED US FOR, TRESSELS GOT TO DO SOMTHING OR HE IS GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR A JOB.

[Wolvrin704]

Hmmmm...I was referring to the freshmen "Thad five" team my friend. I think you guys are so anxious in an attempt to debunk my posts that you don't thoroughly read what I write. :confused:



Well, we'll see what happens in the next couple of years with Matta talent. We won't miss Mullens as much as you think and another top class is waiting in the wings for 2010. The future looks bright baby!!!

Well you found me out Don, I did indeed just skim over your post and thought I was reading the same crap Nut wrote a week ago saying that very thing about the current team being the youngest in the country.

Sometimes addition can work by subtraction as they say. But I'd still be highly concerned about Matta recruiting all these guys who leave early because its gotta be killing your graduations rates which down the road costs schollys.