Will UCONN receive disciplinary actions from the NCAA?

[BLEEDINGBLUE]

After what happened to Michigan, I bet UCONN receives a slap on the wrist what are your thoughts?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4014188

[nc wolverine]

BB.... Since the kid is no longer there.... i dont think anything will happen. I agree with a slap on the wrist and they will be looked at more closely in future recruitments. but nothing drastic.

[Wolvrin704]

Ever since UM got smacked schools have been getting far more lenient punishments. What kills me is that for many of them its the coaching staff doing the guilty deeds while for UM the coaching staff was merely turning a blind eye. I still think UM got what they deserved but for many schools they are getting out of hard punishment just because they fire their coach (OSU, IU, etc.) yet UM did it as well (twice in fact) and it has taken a decade to recover due to the punishment and subsequent bad hirings.

[chriswebber]

Ever since UM got smacked schools have been getting far more lenient punishments. What kills me is that for many of them its the coaching staff doing the guilty deeds while for UM the coaching staff was merely turning a blind eye. I still think UM got what they deserved but for many schools they are getting out of hard punishment just because they fire their coach (OSU, IU, etc.) yet UM did it as well (twice in fact) and it has taken a decade to recover due to the punishment and subsequent bad hirings.


Umm blind eye? Chris Webber got a million bucks during his UM tenure... How could you not notice his life style compared to other students?

[Sten Carlson]

Umm blind eye? Chris Webber got a million bucks during his UM tenure... How could you not notice his life style compared to other students?

$1 million? Are you sure about that?

[Wolvrin704]

Umm blind eye? Chris Webber got a million bucks during his UM tenure... How could you not notice his life style compared to other students?

You seriously need reading comprehension. Did you miss where I said UM got what they deserve? I'm just saying the NCAA needs to be consistent.

Did you miss Clarett's lifestyle compared to his fellow students? Of course the NCAA did.

[rickyleach]

the amount was 264 thousand over a number of years ,including time when he went to detriot country day high school.

[chriswebber]

I'm sorry, $264,000 over four years. That makes it all better. :rolleyes: Anyone that pays the players should get a 10 year ban, period. The players who receive payment should be fined and ordered to repay the university for education, tuition, and anything else the university gave. The coaches should repay their contracts. Make the penalty so big, that no one can pull a Chris Webber and get away with it.

[Wolvrin704]

I'm sorry, $264,000 over four years. That makes it all better. :rolleyes: Anyone that pays the players should get a 10 year ban, period. The players who receive payment should be fined and ordered to repay the university for education, tuition, and anything else the university gave. The coaches should repay their contracts. Make the penalty so big, that no one can pull a Chris Webber and get away with it.

Well there is a rather LARGE difference between 264K and 1M. Not that it makes it any better, its still breaking the rules.

As for banning people for 10 years, the guy giving the money had nothing official to do with the program. He was a retired Ford employee who was a booster to the program. Do you ban him? Doesn't matter now as he died several years ago. The coach was summarily fired so was also punished, but went back to coaching just 2 years later.

Why is it that this scandal gets under your skin so much? You have said allot directly or in reference to this as to why you hate UM. Did it affect you personally? Do you hate other schools that got caught just as much? Your extreme hate for UM in general and for this situation in particular is certainly puzzling.

[Sten Carlson]

The system is quite hypocritical, in my opinion. Everyone knows that the Universities (and even the NCAA) all make money off the grand production that is big time college athletics (mostly football and basketball), and everyone knows that players are slipped cash by boosters and people that want to see them in their school's uniform. Further, to call players like Webber, "student athletes" is a joke, as I and everyone else at UM during the Fab Five days knew that none of them were serious students (except Howard, he actually went to class and took notes instead of playing GameBoy like Webber). It is sort of insulting to think that most students worked so hard to get in, and many were rejected, and some people get admitted when they couldn't ever gain admittance if they weren't a scholarship athlete, they play for two season, get paid under the table, make the university million, and leave for the pros, and the rest of us have to pay a fortune to attend the school.

It seems that the NCAA goes one periodic witch hunts for violators, when they and everyone else involved know that violations are occurring everywhere. It's sort of like speeding on a busy highway -- you're all guilty, it's just a question of which one is going to get zapped. I find it strange that USC's issues with Reggie Bush are never mentioned in the media, while people seem to want to harp on Michigan basketball's issues with Webber.

I for one, would just assume get it out in the open and pay the players something, instead of all of us pretending that their at the university as a student first and an athlete second. As I see it, the players are offered a free "education", but then in many instances, they're eased through the school, or don't graduate at all.

I don't have the answers for sure, but I think the whole system is all about lies, misrepresentation, coupled with this "holier than thou" attitude in which everyone pretends that schools are obeying the rules but everyone knows that very few actually do.

[chriswebber]

It annoys me that 90% of the NCAA programs are clean. I mean, seriously, when was the last time you saw a swimmer getting paid at the collegiate level? I love basketball and football more then anything, but when those teams are on the take it makes the entire place look bad.
I just don't like cheaters. If you think you deserve money to play sports go pro. Don't stay in college. If your college can't build a team without paying the players... well you just plain out suck. Look at UConn, right now they are poised to win a championship. Had this come to light last years, would Purdue actually lose to them? Probably not... there would be one more DESERVING team in the brackets. Not some shame we pay our players, give them porches, do their homework school. UCLA, UCONN, Michigan, Memphis, all schools that didn't need to cheat to win, decided to cheat anyways. Money has a place in sports, at the professional level.

[bluefan]

It annoys me that 90% of the NCAA programs are clean. I mean, seriously, when was the last time you saw a swimmer getting paid at the collegiate level? I love basketball and football more then anything, but when those teams are on the take it makes the entire place look bad.
I just don't like cheaters. If you think you deserve money to play sports go pro. Don't stay in college. If your college can't build a team without paying the players... well you just plain out suck. Look at UConn, right now they are poised to win a championship. Had this come to light last years, would Purdue actually lose them? Probably not... there would be one more DESERVING team in the brackets. Not some shame we pay our players, give them porches, do their homework school. UCLA, UCONN, Michigan, Memphis, all schools that didn't need to cheat to win, decided to cheat anyways. Money has a place in sports, at the professional level.


You forgot your favorite school (uos- OBrien and Troy Smith, anybody?) and USC. Get the plank out of your own eye so you can see better to remove the splinter in ours.

[chriswebber]

You forgot your favorite school (uos- OBrien and Troy Smith, anybody?) and USC. Get the plank out of your own eye so you can see better to remove the splinter in ours.

Wait, I'm not an OSU guy. But if this helps you cope, :)

[bluefan]

Wait, I'm not an OSU guy. But if this helps you cope, :)

Sure........

[bigboyBlue]

Wait, I'm not an OSU guy. But if this helps you cope, :)

Who cares what you are, as long as you're not with us, you're 'them'. That is all.

[chriswebber]

UK job is open... worried?

[Wolvrin704]

Wait, I'm not an OSU guy. But if this helps you cope, :)

Then what guy exactly are you???? You sure stick up for TOSU allot.....where there is smoke there is bound to be fire.

There are far more schools that have gotten caught that you haven't mentioned and I would be willing to bet almost every school has had some violations at some point.

Schools currently on probation in an NCAA sport

Ball State
Baylor
BYU
California State University at Fresno
FIU
Indiana
Middle Tennessee State
Purdue
Temple
TCU
Arkansas at Fayetville
Colorado
Kansas
Louisiana at Lafeyette
New Mexico
Oklahoma
West Virginia

Not to mention some of the biggest scandals have involved SMU, Kentucky, and now FSU. The NCAA has leveled sanctions against 280 schools in its history for major violations.

[Wolvrin704]

UK job is open... worried?

Nope, but OSU guys should be with their carpetbagging coach.

[RealSchool]

The system is quite hypocritical, in my opinion. Everyone knows that the Universities (and even the NCAA) all make money off the grand production that is big time college athletics (mostly football and basketball), and everyone knows that players are slipped cash by boosters and people that want to see them in their school's uniform. Further, to call players like Webber, "student athletes" is a joke, as I and everyone else at UM during the Fab Five days knew that none of them were serious students (except Howard, he actually went to class and took notes instead of playing GameBoy like Webber). It is sort of insulting to think that most students worked so hard to get in, and many were rejected, and some people get admitted when they couldn't ever gain admittance if they weren't a scholarship athlete, they play for two season, get paid under the table, make the university million, and leave for the pros, and the rest of us have to pay a fortune to attend the school.

It seems that the NCAA goes one periodic witch hunts for violators, when they and everyone else involved know that violations are occurring everywhere. It's sort of like speeding on a busy highway -- you're all guilty, it's just a question of which one is going to get zapped. I find it strange that USC's issues with Reggie Bush are never mentioned in the media, while people seem to want to harp on Michigan basketball's issues with Webber.

I for one, would just assume get it out in the open and pay the players something, instead of all of us pretending that their at the university as a student first and an athlete second. As I see it, the players are offered a free "education", but then in many instances, they're eased through the school, or don't graduate at all.

I don't have the answers for sure, but I think the whole system is all about lies, misrepresentation, coupled with this "holier than thou" attitude in which everyone pretends that schools are obeying the rules but everyone knows that very few actually do.

I can't even begin to think how the system would go about paying players and how would smaller schools compete against schools like Michigan that could actually afford giving paychecks?

[Sten Carlson]

I can't even begin to think how the system would go about paying players and how would smaller schools compete against schools like Michigan that could actually afford giving paychecks?

You're right, it is a silly argument, I am just opposed to the hypocrisy that's all!

[Nets Noslrac]

(except Howard, he actually went to class and took notes instead of playing GameBoy like Webber)


Hey Sten, back then the Fab 5 were playing Nintendo. Super Tecmo Bowl to be specific. But you are right about Howard, he was the only one who actually went to class...

Nets

[bluefan]

Hey Sten, back then the Fab 5 were playing Nintendo. Super Tecmo Bowl to be specific. But you are right about Howard, he was the only one who actually went to class...

Nets

Whoa! I was waiting to see when and what your first post would be. Saw you joined a few weeks back. Interesting handle.