2012: Who's going to beat Obama

[chriswebber]

I think if the election were held again today, John McCain would win. That's sad too, John McCain wasn't that great of a pick. Who is going to run in 2012. It shouldn't be hard to beat Obama. I mean, seriously.... he's going to have to work very hard to over come this moronic mess he made. I myself pick Chuck Norris.

[Wolvrin704]

Its too far away and there are no serious Republican players at this point.

Anyone who worked under Bush will be tainted by his adminsitration no matter how bad Obama is. And there are few Congressmen or governors yet who are worth making much noise about yet. Huckabee could have a better chance next time so could be a likely candidate. Jindahl (sp?) was supposed to be but everytime he opens his mouth the national media just rails on him. They're trying to make him out as another bumbling Bushite which he is not.

[chriswebber]

I'd like to see Romney... I think Romney would make Obama wet his pants in a debate. Seriously... the difference between Obama and Romney is Romney has more experience even after Obama has blundered as a president for 4 years. Can we offer Obama a buyout to just retire?

[osusteve]

How about Jim Tressel??? Now that should a rise out of the Michigan fans!

[RealSchool]

I think if the election were held again today, John McCain would win. That's sad too, John McCain wasn't that great of a pick. Who is going to run in 2012. It shouldn't be hard to beat Obama. I mean, seriously.... he's going to have to work very hard to over come this moronic mess he made. I myself pick Chuck Norris.


Your rich parents will always take care of you chriswebber, no need to worry.

[RealSchool]

I'd like to see Romney... I think Romney would make Obama wet his pants in a debate. Seriously... the difference between Obama and Romney is Romney has more experience even after Obama has blundered as a president for 4 years. Can we offer Obama a buyout to just retire?

King of flip flops? Bring Romney on.

[The Michigan Man]

I'm guessing Bobby Jinhdahl (sp), the Governor of Louisiana. He is sort of the conservative version of Obama, but of course, without the socialism and lack of executive experience.

[RealSchool]

I'm guessing Bobby Jinhdahl (sp), the Governor of Louisiana. He is sort of the conservative version of Obama, but of course, without the socialism and lack of executive experience.

You are forgetting he has brown skin. No way you guys vote for that.

[hail2mich]

I'd like to see Romney... I think Romney would make Obama wet his pants in a debate. Seriously... the difference between Obama and Romney is Romney has more experience even after Obama has blundered as a president for 4 years. Can we offer Obama a buyout to just retire?

Wow, we agree on something! Romney in 2012!

[Wolvrin704]

You are forgetting he has brown skin. No way you guys vote for that.

Apparently they did in Louisiana, one of the stalwarts of supposed racism. :rolleyes:

[bigboyBlue]

You are forgetting he has brown skin. No way you guys vote for that.

Hardly brown, guy changed his name to be American-friendly, is a converted Catholic (from Hinduism) and hasn't visited India in like 30 years. He's a coconut, but obviously will play the minority, son of hard-working immigrants card come election time.

[chriswebber]

Hardly brown, guy changed his name to be American-friendly, is a converted Catholic (from Hinduism) and hasn't visited India in like 30 years. He's a coconut, but obviously will play the minority, son of hard-working immigrants card come election time.

Because Barry Obama didn't do the same things? I'm more black than he is. Half his family is white, just like mine! And Real School, my college education will get me jobs for the rest of my life... I know, you're jealous, but being head fry cook is a good job for you.

[bigboyBlue]

Because Barry Obama didn't do the same things? I'm more black than he is. Half his family is white, just like mine!

Right, because opting to be called 'Barack HUSSEIN Obama' instead was suuuuch a strategic political move in these times :rolleyes:. He also has an Indonesian step-father's influence, a half-Indonesian step-sister and his mother has native indian ancestry, shall we blame him for being very un-asian and un-indian too?

Jindal on the other hand, has clearly made changes to conform. Hell, his kids have names like Selia Elizabeth and Slade Ryan, and they're not even half-white! Its probably not a big deal to some, but lets not have him fool us when he pretends to care about his ethnicity, he's a white guy who doesn't give 2 hoots where he came from, period.

[chriswebber]

Right, because opting to be called 'Barack HUSSEIN Obama' instead was suuuuch a strategic political move in these times :rolleyes:. He also has an Indonesian step-father's influence, a half-Indonesian step-sister and his mother has native indian ancestry, shall we blame him for being very un-asian and un-indian too?

Jindal on the other hand, has clearly made changes to conform. Hell, his kids have names like Selia Elizabeth and Slade Ryan, and they're not even half-white! Its probably not a big deal to some, but lets not have him fool us when he pretends to care about his ethnicity, he's a white guy who doesn't give 2 hoots where he came from, period.

Wait, the party of racial freedom, the party of acceptance... So now you are a racist if you come to America, speak english, and named your children american names. I would like to introduce you to a world called nationalism. I know it might be hard to be proud of your country, but alot of people like it, just the way it is. My ancestors were dutch, they had the prefix Van, however, my grandfather dropped it after fighting in WWI. Obama's name change was a political move. He claims to be a Christian, but when is the last time you met Paul Allah Smith or Tom Mahomid (sp?) Jenadowski? Interesting, stop drinking the koolaid, block daily kos. If you want to go to a place that retains their heritage, go to africa where you will be required to learn 1 trade language, and many tribal languages.... Yeah, shut up. You're appearing to be a racist, not an american.

[bigboyBlue]

My my, troll got pissed. I don't recall calling anyone a racist, so stop putting words in my mouth. I also love how easily the un-american insult comes up, typical. You're clearly not getting what I'm saying, so I'm not gonna bother anymore, waste of time. Enjoy.

[Mike Furley]

Who's going to beat Barack Obama in 2012?

* Nanci Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barack Obama.

They are under pressure to enact everything liberals have pined for since 1976 since they have such an overwhelming grip on power. They either have to deliver and overreach past what most Americans would want, or they don't do enough & disappoint their base.

The name on the ticket for the Republicans is largely irrelevant. For sh!ts and giggles I'll say Sen. John Thune. Voters want a fresh name/face from the Republican side.


* if he even loses at all. i think we're going to be stuck with this mistake for 8 years.

[chriswebber]

My my, troll got pissed. I don't recall calling anyone a racist, so stop putting words in my mouth. I also love how easily the un-american insult comes up, typical. You're clearly not getting what I'm saying, so I'm not gonna bother anymore, waste of time. Enjoy.


It's ok, you went to UM. There was a time when Germany was for the Germans, England for the English, and America for the Americans. I'm sure you were indoctrinated with the hyphen-american stereotype. It's ok, I blame your education. Assimilation is a new word for you?

[The Michigan Man]

You are forgetting he has brown skin. No way you guys vote for that.

Conservatives are dying to vote for a minority candidate that isn't some mind-numbed liberally brainwashed zombie.

Maybe it escaped your attention that the new RNC chairman, Michael Steele, has brown skin. Any minority that thinks for his/her self and has conservative values has a place in the Repub Party.

[UM4life]

At this rate of 'nationalizing' by the Democrates we wont have free elections by 2012 so the question is mute.

[UM4life]

You are forgetting he has brown skin. No way you guys vote for that.

so says the "real" racist. Stop watching Michael Moore, SNL and CNN and you might develope youre own thoughts.

[chriswebber]

Typical... this thread was about people, then someone pulled out the race card. Isn't a racist someone who sees race and not people. Martin Luther King Jr. was a republican. OH NOES.

[RealSchool]

Conservatives are dying to vote for a minority candidate that isn't some mind-numbed liberally brainwashed zombie.

Maybe it escaped your attention that the new RNC chairman, Michael Steele, has brown skin. Any minority that thinks for his/her self and has conservative values has a place in the Repub Party.

Oh my fucking god did you just really type this?!?!?! Steele is the same guy that a had a view of abortion and had to apologize for it to a radio host. The humor you guys provide to me on this site never ends.

Thank you.

[RealSchool]

so says the "real" racist. Stop watching Michael Moore, SNL and CNN and you might develope youre own thoughts.

Yeah osunut, f him.

[chriswebber]

So says a member of a party that made Obama's middle name an issue. Now there is real racist act.

Was it not the great Pelosi who stated expelling illegal immigrants by following US Laws in unamerican? I don't understand why he went by Barack Obama during the campaign, then Barack Hussien Obama, then Messiah. Is the guy that insecure? I for one am opposed to race. I see Americans and non Americans. Try that for change and hope. BTW... who is Joe Biden's daughter coke dealer?

[RealSchool]

Was it not the great Pelosi who stated expelling illegal immigrants by following US Laws in unamerican? I don't understand why he went by Barack Obama during the campaign, then Barack Hussien Obama, then Messiah. Is the guy that insecure? I for one am opposed to race. I see Americans and non Americans. Try that for change and hope. BTW... who is Joe Biden's daughter coke dealer?

I heard she gets her coke straight from GWB.

[The Michigan Man]

Oh my fucking god did you just really type this?!?!?! Steele is the same guy that a had a view of abortion and had to apologize for it to a radio host. The humor you guys provide to me on this site never ends.

Thank you.

"Oh my f*cking god" - are you a 10 year old girl or something?

Steele is a strong conservative voice for the party. He isn't supposed to impress libbies, and the fact that you don't like him is evidence that he was a great pick to run the RNC.

[RealSchool]

[QUOTE=The Michigan Man;10716]"Oh my f*cking god" - are you a 10 year old girl or something?


Go Blue.

[RealSchool]

"Oh my f*cking god" - are you a 10 year old girl or something?

Steele is a strong conservative voice for the party. He isn't supposed to impress libbies, and the fact that you don't like him is evidence that he was a great pick to run the RNC.

Go Blue..........

[chriswebber]

Real School, remember that thread where I called you out for an adult discussion? Oh yes, you can't have one. Face it. Obama sucks. He's making Carter look good. At this point, most people think he's incompetent or has an extreme agenda. He runs over the constitution like it's a doormat to the oval office. He reads a teleprompter for every speech, is this so his true thoughts don't get out? The guy off teleprompter is a blundering idiot. Our VP is an arrogant moron. What could inspire you to be proud or supportive of this guy? He's got government into everything, yet all you claim is the party not in power is racist? Seriously, the republians have no power and you're defending Obama like he's your wife. Grow a brain, you're obviously not a UM graduate since you cannot think on your own feet. Obama is bad for the USA. We should offer him a buyout.

[RealSchool]

Real School, remember that thread where I called you out for an adult discussion? Oh yes, you can't have one. Face it. Obama sucks. He's making Carter look good. At this point, most people think he's incompetent or has an extreme agenda. He runs over the constitution like it's a doormat to the oval office. He reads a teleprompter for every speech, is this so his true thoughts don't get out? The guy off teleprompter is a blundering idiot. Our VP is an arrogant moron. What could inspire you to be proud or supportive of this guy? He's got government into everything, yet all you claim is the party not in power is racist? Seriously, the republians have no power and you're defending Obama like he's your wife. Grow a brain, you're obviously not a UM graduate since you cannot think on your own feet. Obama is bad for the USA. We should offer him a buyout.

Michigan 35
OSU 10

[chriswebber]

Michigan 35
OSU 10

Toledo 13, Michigan 10

Yeah, you have no response? No Dailykos today?

[RealSchool]

Toledo 13, Michigan 10

Yeah, you have no response? No Dailykos today?

Quit living in the past, that was last season. 35-10 is 2009.

I can honestly say I have never seen the dailykos. You guys seem to crap over it so I might have to check it out.

[chriswebber]

Quit living in the past, that was last season. 35-10 is 2009.

I can honestly say I have never seen the dailykos. You guys seem to crap over it so I might have to check it out.

Really, never seen the dailykos? Then why was one of your posts verbatim from it. I think it's about the democrats who served?:eek:

[MICHIGAN58]

Liberals have been in control of michigan for how long!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look around dumbass!!!!!!!!!! Michigan is dying

[RealSchool]

Liberals have been in control of michigan for how long!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look around dumbass!!!!!!!!!! Michigan is dying

You can blame the obese Republican former gov for that retard. Don't mess with me you can't win. I have an education, you flip my burgers.

[amazinblue]

You can blame the obese Republican former gov for that retard. Don't mess with me you can't win. I have an education, you flip my burgers.

I'm sure that the mayors of Detroit had nothing to do with it...

[RealSchool]

I'm sure that the mayors of Detroit had nothing to do with it...

Sorry you hate black people.

[amazinblue]

Sorry you hate black people.

RealSchool,

My oh my, what a mature attitude you have. I do not "hate" black people - and, I refer to that race as African Americans. I was born in Detroit and lived in the area until I was in college. I believe that your original statement placed all the blame for Michigan's current economic woes on a former Republican governor. My impression is that your view is tremendously short-sighted and immature.

I'm wondering what actions you felt a previous governor took has resulted in the current economic state of Michigan? Was it reducing property taxes (or providing property tax credits) for senior citizens who own their homes?

Michigan's economic problems are complex - and the fact that the overall state economy is so dependent on the automobile industry places the state in a very delicate position when a global downturn occurs and the worldwide auto industry is impacted to the degree that it has been recently.

I do feel that Obama's rhetoric that "new energy" jobs can be created in Michigan to replace the (assembly related) automotive industry jobs that have been eliminated is ill founded. Manufacturers may create more fuel efficient / alternative energy products - but, I'm wondering what specific benefit the skill set available in Michigan would provide to employ those people who have lost their jobs. A firm that creates a new technology / solution will most likely move the manufacturing / assembly to a location that maximizes profitability - and, that location would be a country other than the US. Of course, this manufacturing could occur in the US if the tax credits, which Obama seems to be eager to provide (or perhaps the phrase would be subsidized by the US government) - would be so tremendous or a requirement to received any federal funding for R&D or developing this technology.

Please share your insight to this problem and how to resolve it. I'm sure you're far more enlightened about providing a solution to it than I am.

[RealSchool]

Like I care about Michigan anymore. I am one of the smart people that saw the writing on the wall years ago.

But if I did care, Michigan has a hope at least in Ann Arbor to make it one of the tech hubs of this country. Google opening an office is a start.

As far as the unskilled uneducated masses in Michigan that no longer make 85k at Ford, oh well no one too blame but themselves. Get off your butt and learn a skill and stop complaining.

[amazinblue]

You can blame the obese Republican former gov for that retard. Don't mess with me you can't win. I have an education, you flip my burgers...

Like I care about Michigan anymore. I am one of the smart people that saw the writing on the wall years ago.

But if I did care, Michigan has a hope at least in Ann Arbor to make it one of the tech hubs of this country. Google opening an office is a start.

As far as the unskilled uneducated masses in Michigan that no longer make 85k at Ford, oh well no one too blame but themselves. Get off your butt and learn a skill and stop complaining.

RealSchool,

I'm confused - Who are you "blaming" for this mess? The former Michigan Republican governor? The employees of Ford, Chryslyer, and GM? Everyone who lives in Michigan?

[chriswebber]

RealSchool,

I'm confused - Who are you "blaming" for this mess? The former Michigan Republican governor? The employees of Ford, Chryslyer, and GM? Everyone who lives in Michigan?

His father, someday he'll meet the man. I bet he's from Michigan.:rolleyes:

[Medic]

I'd like to see Romney... I think Romney would make Obama wet his pants in a debate. Seriously... the difference between Obama and Romney is Romney has more experience even after Obama has blundered as a president for 4 years. Can we offer Obama a buyout to just retire?

Romney is a charlatan. Just do some due diligence on Romney as the governor of Massachusetts.

edit: I'd be interested to know which party has been in control of the Michigan state legislature for the last 5 decades.

[michAGAIN]

I didn't vote for Obama but as far as I'm concerned he can stay in office for the rest of my life. I have never made so much money in the stock market as I have in the last three months. His policies have created such havoc that wild swings in stocks are an everyday event. If you can just figure out the daily swing up or down, you can make a fortune. (Granted, the country will never be stable, but when you're served lemons, make lemonade.)

[RealSchool]

His father, someday he'll meet the man. I bet he's from Michigan.:rolleyes:

Have you forgiven your father for not letting you join the military? Being a child and all I figured you still held that grudge.