My New Favorite Conservative......

[RealSchool]

is Glen Beck. Nobody does the fake cry like this guy. Where can I sign-up for the 9-12 project, boo hoo hoo. Even in a recession, there will always be money to be made off the dumb. I salute you Glen Beck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4xqnukQrM

[Mike Furley]

is Glen Beck. Nobody does the fake cry like this guy. Where can I sign-up for the 9-12 project, boo hoo hoo. Even in a recession, there will always be money to be made off the dumb. I salute you Glen Beck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4xqnukQrM

how about this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf8TOGrq8Bo&NR=1

Yucks it up right until he spots a tv camera on him...then bammo.

[RealSchool]

Bill was the master, and still is. Another example when he visited the beaches of the d-day invasion he had his staff plant two rocks right by each other that just happen to make a perfect cross. What a loser.

[Mike Furley]

the best of all time? Yasser Arafat. That guy was the master of alligator tears. I hope he's spending eternity in a pizza shop that gets blown up by a suicide bomber everytime he tries to eat a slice.

[gator]

is Glen Beck. Nobody does the fake cry like this guy. Where can I sign-up for the 9-12 project, boo hoo hoo. Even in a recession, there will always be money to be made off the dumb. I salute you Glen Beck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4xqnukQrM

RealSchool,
GB aside, do you believe in those 9 principles and 12 values? I'm just curious as to how far out in left field you are coming from.

[RealSchool]

RealSchool,
GB aside, do you believe in those 9 principles and 12 values? I'm just curious as to how far out in left field you are coming from.

I have a better question for you, do you need a news host to tell you how to be responsible and spell it out for you with 9 principles and 12 values? I sure don't, sad others do.

[gator]

I have a better question for you, do you need a news host to tell you how to be responsible and spell it out for you with 9 principles and 12 values? I sure don't, sad others do.

Well, that's about what I expected; avoid a simple question and respond with a negatively worded question of your own. Yeah, my wife and I have put ourselves through a combined 16 years of college without ever taking out a student loan (it takes a little longer when you have to work to put yourself through). Every thing we have is owned outright, except for our mortgage. We have no debt (not even student loans) and we're still in school (about to get my Ph.D. and my wife, her Master's). Yeah, we didn't have any principles or beliefs until here recently when someone told me what to think with the 9-12 project.

Of course, I don't need someone to tell me what I believe, but maybe you didn't answer my question because you don't know what you believe. Your question just shows your lack of comprehension about the purpose of the movement. The 9-12 project isn't about telling other people what to believe, it's a statement about what those in the movement believe. You definitely seem to be on the liberal side of things, so I don't know how open minded you can be here, but I certainly hope you can see the light.

The fact is, as much as liberals may deny it, that the majority of media is extremely biased to the left (NBC, ABC, CNBC, MSNBS, CNN). I hate to even mention the largest newspaper organizations in this country. Heck, even scientific studies agree that coverage is biased: http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/04/28/top_stories/doc49f6bc765954c982609198.txt. The purpose of this media blitz has been to cast liberal, progressive ideas as mainstream and in the best possible light. Meanwhile, any thing conservative is usually treated with contempt and passed off as crazy and provincial. The 9-12 project is simply a way to combat the media bias, and give those who dare think for themselves a chance to see that a lot of people may stand for the same things they do and not what is force fed to them every night on the tube. Looking at the list of values, I just don't see what is so terrible about them. I just know I would hate for people to describe me with the following adjectives:rolleyes::

Honesty
Reverence
Hope
Thrift
Humility
Charity
Sincerity
Moderation
Hard Work
Courage
Personal Responsibility
Gratitude

And though some people may not agree with some of the 9 principles (say the one about God), I find it hard to believe that red-blooded Americans have many problems with the others:
1. America is good.

2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life.

3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.


4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government.

5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it.

6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results.

7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.

8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion.

9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me.

The truth is that these quanlities are no longer valued by our government, media, financial institutions, and soon to be our society. And it's not just Obama and the Democrats; the Republicans have been right there with them, driving the ship onto the shoals amidst a hurricane. The 9-12 project and gatherings like the Tea Parties are not about one political party over the other or even resentment of Obama (as the media would have you believe). Further, having helped planned a local Tea Party, the media was lying out of its ass about how these were far-right, corporate sponsered gatherings. The 9-12 project isn't about telling American citizens what to believe and how to be responsible; it's really about the American people telling our elected officials that we know what responsibility looks like and what you're doing isn't it.

Hence, I wanted to know if you had even read the 9 principles and 12 values or you were just knocking them becasue the Huffington Post told you they were bad. You can't even tell me if you agree with the principles are not; I don't think I'm the one that's lost here, Brother. If you do find that you agree with them, you might wonder how they're being treated in this country today.

1. America is good----Obama couldn't apologize for us enough over the past few weeks on his foreign tour. Yeah, I love when I can't even figure out if my Prez even likes our country. Michelle Obama let it slip during the campaign that she recently experience the first time she had ever been proud of her country.:rolleyes:

2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life. -Hey everyone has a right to their own beliefs. I'm like the next guy; I don't want to see government sanctioned religion, but they've bastardized the 1st Ammendment to where people think you can't even express your beliefs (especially if you're a Christian). It's just the opposite, you have a right to express whatever religion you want.

3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday---Well, we'll release the torture photos, but not the disaterous NYC fly over photo shoot. We'll provide our enemies with our interogation techniques, but we won't even tell the American public what, if any thing, we learned from those interrogations, so they can decide for themselves. Obama: "I don't want to run these business" but his administration initially denies companies the ability to pay back unwanted funds so they can get out from government control.

4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government---Well, I'm not personally excited about all the special legislation being passed to protect homosexual couples (hate crime legislation, same sex marriage). I don't care what people do in their own bedroom, but don't expect me to like it and support it like it's normal. Around 80% of America thinks marriage = man and woman, but look how many states are passing legislation despite the overwhelming will of the people. What is a "hate crime" anyway. I guess if race or social proclivity is not the primary motive it's called a "love crime.":D Really, we're starting to prosecute people for their thoughts and not their actions. Can you say "slippery slope"?

5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it.---Hey, you can't work for the Obama administration if you haven't cheated on your taxes. What's he up to now, 5 people he nominated in trouble with the IRS? Of course, they don't get the royal treatment from the IRS like you and I would have. As much as everyone bitched about Haliburton (sp?) and Cheney, Obama's got just as shady a deal going on with GE and their green energy division.

6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results---If the government gets control of the healthcare system, how much right to life and liberty do you really think you'll have? Who's to say that the system couldn't be used against political enemies and other undesirable elements of society...yeah, yeah...conspiracy right? Like they're trying to nationalize healthcare becasue they care about the masses. Beyond that, when businesses and individual are looking down the barrell of a 50% tax rate, which it will be soon for the "rich" under Obama, where is the joy or motivation to pursue anything. Why push to do more, when the precentage of your profit keeps getting less. They don't know shit about business, economy, liberty, or happiness.

7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable---If you struggle, put yourself though school, and actually make something of yourself, Big Brother will be right there to come in for 50% of the action (through taxes) becasue "we're all in this together." F' that. There wasn't anyone there with me when I was pulling a decade of all-nighters studying and working, and there isn't anyone with me here now helping to write my disseretation either.


8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion---You know you have to agree with this principle if you're liberal or conservative. If you're liberal, you know you ran your mouth about GW for 8 years, and if you're conservative, you're not exactly loving Obama right now. I'm actually suprised and glad that Obama took a stand against putting the Fairness Doctrine back on the table, but you know there are politicians waiting in the wings to get that shit passed. It's not fairness, it's legalized censorship and bias.

9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me---Yeah, you find me a politician today who actually believes that. Incumbents get reelected at rate of about 90%, they aren't scared of us anymore.

[mgoblue1]

is Glen Beck. Nobody does the fake cry like this guy. Where can I sign-up for the 9-12 project, boo hoo hoo. Even in a recession, there will always be money to be made off the dumb. I salute you Glen Beck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4xqnukQrM

Man, I don't care if this guy is left or right..He's just a huge doucher! That supercedes any political affiliation or agenda. what a phony!

[RealSchool]

Gator,

That is the problem with people like you, the way you see things in just black and white terms and that is what makes you such an idiot (everything you posted is just knee jerk reaction to issues and it is very clear you have not taken the time to investigate anything on your own, shame on you for that). You use terms like 'red blooded American" but in another post say you hope Obams fails. That my friend is a complete lack of caring about the USA and shows how you lack any character as a person.

And talk about a drain on the economy I see where you are a professional student. What's wrong pal can't handle the real world and get a steady job? I wonder how much tax payers have paid for you to hide out in college year after year while the rest of us contribute?

[RealSchool]

mgoblue1,

You are right and people like gator eat it right up. Takes a phony to like a phony.

[The Michigan Man]

Gator,

That is the problem with people like you, the way you see things in just black and white terms and that is what makes you such an idiot (everything you posted is just knee jerk reaction to issues and it is very clear you have not taken the time to investigate anything on your own, shame on you for that). You use terms like 'red blooded American" but in another post say you hope Obams fails. That my friend is a complete lack of caring about the USA and shows how you lack any character as a person.

And talk about a drain on the economy I see where you are a professional student. What's wrong pal can't handle the real world and get a steady job? I wonder how much tax payers have paid for you to hide out in college year after year while the rest of us contribute?

That is the problem with the left - the inability to see things in terms of black/white, good/bad, etc., there is always some gray, fuzzy vacuum they live in. The world that many of us live in isn't very forgiving to those that can't make consistent decisions based upon logic and common sense, not half-baked ideologies and Utopian principles that are glorious in principle but miserable failures when implemented. That's why the college campus is the ultimate haven for liberal misfits, where the professors who generally couldn't hack it in the real world find a perfect venue to preach their useless theories to students who haven't matured enough to properly label their teachings as bullshit. The federal government is also a nice place to work if you are a liberal who is out of touch with reality and doesn't want to be held accountable for his job performance.

The liberals in this country had complete control over congress for 40 years, and spent trillions and trillions on their programs, and what resulted? Poverty and crime got worse, divorces and broken families skyrocketed, and America lost its standing in the world. Throwing money at a problem didn't solve it then, and it won't now.

As far as the outrage about people wanting Obama to fail, here's a news flash - the left, including the 90% of the media it controls, persistently made it known that it would love to see Bush fail, including numerous ridiculous calls for impeachment and war crimes. If Barry Hussein wants to run with the big dogs, he's going to have to accept that just under half of this country doesn't want him as President, don't like his socialist policies, and hope that he is a total failure when it comes to pushing his agenda.

[RealSchool]

"That is the problem with the left - the inability to see things in terms of black/white, good/bad, etc., there is always some gray, fuzzy vacuum they live in."


It is called not taking a knee jerk reaction to everything and actually taking the time to learn about an issue. The banks wanting to pay back TARP funds now is a perfect example of screaming socialism (knee jerk term) without knowing the facts.

I grow tired of spoon feeding you all. I just thank Jesus (who by the way would hate Republican's) that none of you have a voice in DC anymore.

[The Michigan Man]

I just thank Jesus (who by the way would hate Republican's) that none of you have a voice in DC anymore.

Wow, that is the most hilarious thing I've read in quite awhile!

Yes, Jesus would most certainly be a Democrat, and seek to legalize abortion, advocate gay rights, and ban Himself and His Father from being in schools and the government. ???????????????????????????

Whatever money you've spent on education has been a total and absolute waste! But you do serve to amuse, so that is something...

[RealSchool]

You got me on the abortion part, but way off on the others. Jesus was 100%against state run religion and 100% against treating others (gays, etc..) as not equal to rights.

Would Jesus torture? Would Jesus call for attacking Iraq? Would Jesus give tax breaks to the rich while the poor suffer? Would Jesus be against helathcare for all? Would Jesus believe money is more important than treating the planet with care?

Owned.

[RealSchool]

and Furley, before you decide to butt in, this debate is only for those not involved in cults.

[The Michigan Man]

You got me on the abortion part, but way off on the others. Jesus was 100%against state run religion and 100% against treating others (gays, etc..) as not equal to rights.

Would Jesus torture? Would Jesus call for attacking Iraq? Would Jesus give tax breaks to the rich while the poor suffer? Would Jesus be against helathcare for all? Would Jesus believe money is more important than treating the planet with care?

Owned.

1) No one in the Republican party wants a "state run religion". Republicans wanted to preserve religious symbols on currency and in court houses and allow students to say the pledge of allegience. Jesus would advocate the removal of the 10 Commandments in schools and government buildings? Jesus would want "In God We Trust" removed from US currency? Does the absurdity of that sink in?

2) Are you telling me that Jesus parts from His Father on condemning homosexuality? When did Jesus denounce the Old Testament, please provide a historical reference for this.

3) Republicans don't have a monopoly on torture - who was the 1st President to implement rendition, or the transportation of suspects to torture-friendly countries for interrogation? Clinton

4) Jesus would most certainly endorse ending the rule of tyrants, including the murderous Hussein.

5) The poor didn't suffer any more under Bush than they did under Clinton. As a matter of fact, Bush reduced tax rates, reducing the burden on the middle class and the poor, and funded a bunch of faith based initiatives to aid the poor. Jesus would probably like faith based orgs, I would guess.

6) Jesus would probably condemn the concept of "healthcare" for all that results in a Canadian-style of nationalized healthcare, where people have to wait for years for procedures or sneak down to the US. That is inhumane.

7) Jesus would probably also fail to embrace the junk science of global warming.

Even though I engaged in this discussion, it is utter lunacy to advocate Jesus' position. I did it for the sake of arguing, but if you are truly a believer that Jesus is some moveon.org / ACLU / ACORN turd, you need help!

Not "owned" - not even close.

[RealSchool]

You can't un-own my owned, it doesn't work that way. oh yeah, your last post? All wrong.

In conclusion it's Friday, who cares.

[gator]

Gator,

That is the problem with people like you, the way you see things in just black and white terms and that is what makes you such an idiot (everything you posted is just knee jerk reaction to issues and it is very clear you have not taken the time to investigate anything on your own, shame on you for that). You use terms like 'red blooded American" but in another post say you hope Obams fails. That my friend is a complete lack of caring about the USA and shows how you lack any character as a person.

And talk about a drain on the economy I see where you are a professional student. What's wrong pal can't handle the real world and get a steady job? I wonder how much tax payers have paid for you to hide out in college year after year while the rest of us contribute?

RS, this may be my favorite yet. Shit, I don't even know where to start. What republican came to your house and raped your mother and killed your family? That's the only thing I can think of for why you have such utter disdain for anything conservative. I guess that still doesn't explain you allergy to logic though.

I'm an idiot (about to have my Ph.D.) and you have to spoon feed us? Puhleez! I don't recall saying I hope Obama fails, but I may have. However, it certainly was not personal. If he reversed his agenda to less government, lower taxes, quit apologizing for USA to every country in the world, actually treated terrorist like bad people, and quit bailing out every corrupt business in the country; I would become his biggest supporter overnight. Well, I guess that would just be a knee-jerk reaction, wouldn't it? If he's going to push this liberal ass agenda to the detriment of the country, yes, I would think every red-blooded, tried-and-true American would be against that. I guess you have no concept of right and wrong (I'm sorry, black and white) except that Obama is always right. If Obama goes light on terrorist and we get attacked again, I guess he had good reason and we probably deserved it, right? After listening to you, I am more convinced that liberalism is a mental disorder, and there needs to be some medication for that shit, quick!

About being a professional student, I would love to tell you that you've been funding it just to piss you off, but I can't. Truth is I've worked and put myself through college on my own dime. Funny that you should be so against that though, especially since Obama wants to send every American child to college on the taxpayer's dime. OMG! You disagree with Obama on something, quick kill yourself before he finds out! So honestly do you have a problem with this Obama policy, you traitor? How dare you doubt how Obama spends tax dollars! You wouldn't want him to fail would you? :rolleyes: If you don't want every child to get his college paid for, then you just hate children and that shows your true lack of character my friend. See, I can rant like a dumbass too. Anyway, I paid my own way through colleger, thank you. Further, I never took out a student loan and I paid in more taxes than I got back every year I was in school, so now what, stupid? You tried to cut me down and run me over, but your feeble hatemongoring is just that, no substance. Just because you're a complete failure of a human being, and Uncle Sam had to put you through school (I'm almost sure), it doesn't mean everyone else got a free ride. You must have gotten that minority scholarship - Tards on Books.

[RealSchool]

The University is not paying you right now to complete your PHD? If not that must be one crappy program.

[gator]

The University is not paying you right now to complete your PHD? If not that must be one crappy program.

I am getting paid to complete my Ph.D., but contracts (most from private industry) for our research pay my salary, thank you. Though I admit, I do get a tuition wavier from the University. Even if the government was paying all of my salary, how is that worse than the hundreds of thousands of government jobs that Obama wants to create (and will spend the rest of their career there)? Since I work work 50-100% more hours than in a traditional work week and do it for slave wages, the government would at least get one hell of an employee. Further, I would at least be one hell of an investment. I'll easily pay my tuition and salary back several times over with taxes in my lifetime.

In conclusion, do you every have any facts you would like to present? Would you at least like to address any of the troubling statistics presented by others posting here? Oh, that's right, you have....it's all Bush's fault. All you ever seem to do is tear down anyone who disagrees with your distorted view of the economy. Just out of morbid curiosity, what is your ideal view of government? Maybe you should start a new thread, "Real School's perfect world" where you can tell us how many taxes we should pay, what benefits we should expect from the government, how we should treat terrorists, and whether we should let republicans live. The truth is you are the only one posting here who hasn't directly expressed his beliefs. All we know about you is that you hate Bush and republicans. Though I dare say that most here don't even consider themselves republicans anymore, but mere conservatives.

[Mike Furley]

and Furley, before you decide to butt in, this debate is only for those not involved in cults.

Riddle me this Bat-Man:

I'll leave faith (or what you derisively refer to as "cult" out of the discussion). This is purely objective philosophical reasoning that even an atheist can do.

Would Jesus, the hypothetical human incarnation of a hypothetical God who supposedly gave out ten commandments - one of which was " do not covet thy neighbors possessions" be in favor of the class warfare rhetoric and the compulsory redistribution of income espoused by Liberals?

It's a logical inconsistency. The hypothetical God was cool with disparity of outcome so His hypothetical human incarnation, Jesus, would be too.

Now this person, Jesus, was recorded as commanding "Love thy neighbor as you would thyself". This would mean that people should charitably support the less fortunate because they should love their fellow man. In this case, if Jesus was the hypothetical incarnation of God, then he would say those who have benefited from the inequality should through their own volition, take care of those who did not benefit.

Stoking class warfare and envy, and then forcibly seizing the property of some to redistribute to others is not the definition of charity - it is a perverse magnanimity. It is akin to the lazy deadbeat son who gives his dad an expensive watch for his birthday and when the dad tells him he shouldn't spend that kind of money, the son replies "I didn't, I put it on your credit card". Except in this case its the credit card of the son's grandchildren and the son is keeping the watch.

[gator]

Furley,

You're making too much sense for RealSchool and you are using words. Slow it down. Do you have any pictures?:D

[Mike Furley]

Furley,

You're making too much sense for RealSchool and you are using words. Slow it down. Do you have any pictures?:D

Real School just fans the flames for his own enjoyment. I have no expectation that he would ever acknowledge sound reasoning that disproves his emotionally based, intellectually dishonest points.

He's just an unhappy soul, afflicted with petulance for anything that contends with his own worldview. The sad part is that he and his liberal elitist buddies just think they are so clever with their sophomoric jests. Maybe Real School is Keith Olberman?

[gator]

Keith Olberman, Bill Maher, and Chris Matthews...Yuuuck! Now doubt their shows are RS's Bible. I watch all of these guys myself (in moderation to keep my lunch and blood pressure down) in hopes that one day I will get a glimmer into what makes them tick. I just don't get it. Their ideas and the policies they support are self-defeating. I guess that's what I can never get my head around, why would you do things to put yourself or your country at a disadvantage. These guys should be broadcasting from mental institutions.

[Mike Furley]

Keith Olberman, Bill Maher, and Chris Matthews...Yuuuck! Now doubt their shows are RS's Bible. I watch all of these guys myself (in moderation to keep my lunch and blood pressure down) in hopes that one day I will get a glimmer into what makes them tick. I just don't get it. Their ideas and the policies they support are self-defeating. I guess that's what I can never get my head around, why would you do things to put yourself or your country at a disadvantage. These guys should be broadcasting from mental institutions.

Read Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. One of his first rules is to ridicule one's political adversaries. Therein lies the common thread of Maher, Olberman, RealSchool, etc. They derisively poke fun of those people, groups, religions, standards, customs, etc that articulate the opposite of their worldview.

They are also the modern day equivalent of slaveholders: they seek to limit the freedom of others to facilitate their own ends. In this case, their end is to remake society into their utopian vision; with them controlling the levers of power and not being subject to the sacrifice they seek to impose on everyone else.

That's why you see Obama's cabinet littered with tax cheats who seek to tax the hell out of the rest of us. Or jet all over the country with a giant carbon footprint while the rest of us have to turn our thermostats down and drive electric cars or ride public transportation.

You ask why they wish for the policies that have been proven time and time again to be failures in every place and time they've been tried? It's simple. They're arrogant as hell. They will succeed where the others have failed because they think they are smarter. Ever notice how much they like to use that word?

[gator]

Read Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. One of his first rules is to ridicule one's political adversaries. Therein lies the common thread of Maher, Olberman, RealSchool, etc. They derisively poke fun of those people, groups, religions, standards, customs, etc that articulate the opposite of their worldview.

They are also the modern day equivalent of slaveholders: they seek to limit the freedom of others to facilitate their own ends. In this case, their end is to remake society into their utopian vision; with them controlling the levers of power and not being subject to the sacrifice they seek to impose on everyone else.

That's why you see Obama's cabinet littered with tax cheats who seek to tax the hell out of the rest of us. Or jet all over the country with a giant carbon footprint while the rest of us have to turn our thermostats down and drive electric cars or ride public transportation.

You ask why they wish for the policies that have been proven time and time again to be failures in every place and time they've been tried? It's simple. They're arrogant as hell. They will succeed where the others have failed because they think they are smarter. Ever notice how much they like to use that word?

On the first point, you're right on. That's why they always bash the hell out of Palin. They know she connects with the average working person, so their only hope is to slander her: portray her as stupid, radical, incompetent, etc. Truth is, they're afraid to give her fair coverage because she would mop the floor with Dems.

As far as the slavedriver comment: I agree to the point that you're talking about politicians. I get that, but I can never understand the people in the media. They're not pushing the buttons, what are they getting out of this? I think they're just useful idiots.

The tax cheat comment got me laughing because RealSchool was angry at me, a student, lecturing him about the real world. Though I feel very qualified to talk about the real world as I've worked many a jobs, paid for my education, have a house, cars, etc... It's funny that he despises me but doesn't mind his taxes being raised by people who don't pay them. He also doesn't mind being told to turn your thermostat down, drive less or get a hybrid, switch to these flourescent bulbs that have toxic mercury inside of them by somebody who generated a hell of a carbon footprint by flying to Iowa on Earth Day. Not to mention NBC and affiliates are on Obamas nuts and their owner, GE, was a big supporter of Obamas campaign. You'll never guess who stands to make billions if tax and trade (carbon reduction) legislation is passed.

[RealSchool]

Keith Olberman, Bill Maher, and Chris Matthews...Yuuuck! Now doubt their shows are RS's Bible. I watch all of these guys myself (in moderation to keep my lunch and blood pressure down) in hopes that one day I will get a glimmer into what makes them tick. I just don't get it. Their ideas and the policies they support are self-defeating. I guess that's what I can never get my head around, why would you do things to put yourself or your country at a disadvantage. These guys should be broadcasting from mental institutions.

You get cable in the double wide?

[gator]

You get cable in the double wide?

In true RealSchool fashion, just criticism no substance, again. There are plenty of ideas being discussed here; feel free to have an actual opinion.

[RealSchool]

my favorite cult member wrote:

"They are also the modern day equivalent of slaveholders: they seek to limit the freedom of others to facilitate their own ends."


Sounds like the Catholic church to me.

[Mike Furley]

my favorite cult member wrote:

"They are also the modern day equivalent of slaveholders: they seek to limit the freedom of others to facilitate their own ends."


Sounds like the Catholic church to me.



Saul Alinsky's fifth rule:

"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage"



The key word is "almost"


You are actually quite easy to counterattack because you are glaringly ignorant about most of which you comment.

That you are utterly incapable of posting any substantive arguments supported by evidence in response to anyone else's contrary points of view is obvious to anybody with an intellect who reads these boards.

Nevertheless, I congratulate you on your continued vapid sophistry clothed in Saul Alinsky's communist tactics. If nothing else you are consistent.


Here's the simple truth RealSchool. You are one of three types of people:

a) a committed Marxist

b.) a useful idiot that will never realize he has been made a useful idiot by the committed Marxist

c.) a useful idiot that will one day realize you have been made a useful idiot by the committed Marxist


For your's and everybody else's sake, I hope you are person c

[RealSchool]

Furley I applaud you for being one of the last remaining people on Earth to refer to others as Marxists. Are you 90 or something?

From torture to TARP funds I have defeated you on every subject. I don't debate you anymore because how do you debate talking points you throw out time and time again? Every time I do debate you, you fall back to the safe and comfortable Marxist line. Quite sad on your part, and outdated as well.

I look forward to your 2000 word reply defending your lack of self-esteem.

[bluefan]

You haven't beaten him on any subject! In fact, you haven't even debated him on any subject; or anybody else that's completely owned your ass the past few weeks you've been vomiting your crap all over this section. All you do is post 3 sentence jabs, maybe state an opinion, but then offer absolutely no basis or fact for your bullshit. The only person you're making a complete fool out of is yourself.

[RealSchool]

As a bluefan not a blue grad, how would you know? Stick to being a Walmart Wolverine and leave this section for the taxpayers.

[Mike Furley]

As a bluefan not a blue grad, how would you know? Stick to being a Walmart Wolverine and leave this section for the taxpayers.




Glad to see the person who defends the policies that are supposed to be in the interest of the "little guy" has at the same time such high regard for him.



Since you mock me for accurately describing you as a Marxist, even though all of your posts on this board reek of Marxism, I'll acurately describe you by another name. Elitist prick.

[RealSchool]

Let's see Furley. You have called me a twit, a prick and a Marxist in the last 2 days. Looks like you have taken a few lessons from Saul as well.

[Mike Furley]

Let's see Furley. You have called me a twit, a prick and a Marxist in the last 2 days. Looks like you have taken a few lessons from Saul as well.



This would be true if I was attempting to ridicule you. I chose my words thoughtfully


twit: –noun Informal. an insignificant or bothersome person.



Marxist: –noun 1. an adherent of Karl Marx or his theories.

note it was not listed as "archaic". The opinions you state are in my opinion adhering to his theories.


Elitist: –noun 1. practice of or belief in rule by an elite.
2. consciousness of or pride in belonging to a select or favored group.

Related forms:

e⋅lit⋅ist, noun, adjective



Prick: Slang: Vulgar. a. penis.
b. an obnoxious or contemptible person.


I was going for "b"

[The Michigan Man]

Let's see Furley. You have called me a twit, a prick and a Marxist in the last 2 days. Looks like you have taken a few lessons from Saul as well.


Doesn't it get tiresome having Furley sending you to fetch your shine box over and over?

[Mike Furley]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090518/sc_livescience/happinessisbeingoldmaleandrepublican

Hmmm.