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bighousemike84
04-09-2009, 04:11 PM
What do you think of this? An article by Ivan Maisel at ESPN.com has a quote from Coach Rod that he says he pulled his son out of T-ball because they didnt keep score. I love that. I totally Agree.

I was the fat kid, the one who was always picked last etc.... but it is very important that kids learn the importance of competition and that they learn the difference between winning and losing. We have become a nation of pussys because of the people that want all kids to be winners! You want to win then you should play your best and if you lose that should be an influence to improve yourself so that you can win! Instead these idiots say "Everyone is a winner" they got things like tag and dodgeball taken away because its unfair to the less athletic kids. They hand out a trophy to every team and every kid so they dont feel left out. They dont keep score so no one feels like a loser! I HATE IT!
Life is full of winners and losers! If you are the later then you have something to work towards. Its so fucking ridiculous that people think they are helping kids by doing these things. These kids go into the world expecting to be handed a trophy when they dont deserve it but they dont realize it because theyve never been taught any better!

Sten Carlson
04-09-2009, 04:41 PM
What do you think of this? An article by Ivan Maisel at ESPN.com has a quote from Coach Rod that he says he pulled his son out of T-ball because they didnt keep score. I love that. I totally Agree.

I was the fat kid, the one who was always picked last etc.... but it is very important that kids learn the importance of competition and that they learn the difference between winning and losing. We have become a nation of pussys because of the people that want all kids to be winners! You want to win then you should play your best and if you lose that should be an influence to improve yourself so that you can win! Instead these idiots say "Everyone is a winner" they got things like tag and dodgeball taken away because its unfair to the less athletic kids. They hand out a trophy to every team and every kid so they dont feel left out. They dont keep score so no one feels like a loser! I HATE IT!
Life is full of winners and losers! If you are the later then you have something to work towards. Its so fucking ridiculous that people think they are helping kids by doing these things. These kids go into the world expecting to be handed a trophy when they dont deserve it but they dont realize it because theyve never been taught any better!

Kids these days are just being prepared for what their future holds -- socialized debt slavery!

RichRodriguez
04-09-2009, 05:49 PM
wow talk about crap family values. if my son was playing t-ball and didnt score i would still let him play if he was having fun.

bighousemike84
04-09-2009, 05:55 PM
wow talk about crap family values. if my son was playing t-ball and didnt score i would still let him play if he was having fun.

Are you serious?! Sure I would want my son to be enjoying himself but I dont want him to get the idea that even if he fails miserably he still gets rewarded for it. Every kid should understand the value in competition. I understand the feeling that a parent has in not wanting to see their child be disappointed by failure but thats life man. You fall, you get up dust yourself off and try again

Blue In Ohio
04-09-2009, 06:32 PM
I could care less if score is kept at such a low level of play. I don't think at that age it is necessary to start labeling who is good and who isn't due to the fact that some kids are late bloomers and the "killer intinct" takes longer to arrive for some. In athletics how you perceive yourself matters as much as your ability. If you are not allowed to make mistakes and grow and are benched for the sake of winning at a young age I think that is so counterproductive to future developement. At teeball age I think it is most important to work on the basics and develope the players reguardless of what their abilities look to be. My daughter plays teeball and they don't keep score and she is having a ball so far learning the game. Things don't need to be that serious at that young of an age. Parents take the fun out of many sports experiences of their children because some parents think winning is more important than their children do. This isn't about socialism in the least but proper coaching and mentoring so more kids are allowed to develope in sports.

Bleed Blue
04-09-2009, 07:30 PM
wow talk about crap family values. if my son was playing t-ball and didnt score i would still let him play if he was having fun.

What does this have to do with family values? Perhaps you're missing the point that he was establishing a bigger value, that in life everything is a competition and there's no such thing as everyone is an equal and a winner? :rolleyes:

Seriously get off the ice brother.

They did this with my nephews T-ball team and he had no enjoyment in it, he was also the kid that was leaps above most and had a tendency to tell the bench warms they suck (sometimes embarassing but hey he was right). This tends to happen for many parents in roll kids in sports they have no intrest in for they feel it will help them develop...it's silly if you ask me and takes away from the kids that actually want to play.

Guess it's all in how you raise em and if you're from a competitive family (which we are), this seems fine in my book.

Mike Furley
04-10-2009, 04:06 AM
What do you think of this? An article by Ivan Maisel at ESPN.com has a quote from Coach Rod that he says he pulled his son out of T-ball because they didnt keep score. I love that. I totally Agree.

I was the fat kid, the one who was always picked last etc.... but it is very important that kids learn the importance of competition and that they learn the difference between winning and losing. We have become a nation of pussys because of the people that want all kids to be winners! You want to win then you should play your best and if you lose that should be an influence to improve yourself so that you can win! Instead these idiots say "Everyone is a winner" they got things like tag and dodgeball taken away because its unfair to the less athletic kids. They hand out a trophy to every team and every kid so they dont feel left out. They dont keep score so no one feels like a loser! I HATE IT!
Life is full of winners and losers! If you are the later then you have something to work towards. Its so fucking ridiculous that people think they are helping kids by doing these things. These kids go into the world expecting to be handed a trophy when they dont deserve it but they dont realize it because theyve never been taught any better!

I've been saying this for years. RR goes up one mark in my book for this.

The Michigan Man
04-10-2009, 06:22 AM
I've been saying this for years. RR goes up one mark in my book for this.

I agree. This nonsense where games are played without scoring to protect little Johnny from the pain of losing is a waste of everyone's time.

Unfortunately, losing is a part of life, and the earlier a kid learns to deal with it the better. A lot of these kids coast through their childhood without experiencing any adversity, and then are brutally socked in the mouth by life as young adults when they realize that in the real world, academically and professionally, there are winners and losers.

It is not a crushing experience to lose a t-ball game. It provides an excellent opportunity for character building and for the coach and parents to support the kids in adversity. RR did the right thing by pulling his kid out of this league.

bigboyBlue
04-10-2009, 07:57 AM
It is not a crushing experience to lose a t-ball game. It provides an excellent opportunity for character building and for the coach and parents to support the kids in adversity. RR did the right thing by pulling his kid out of this league.

Exactly. Losing isn't always a character killing, soul crushing experience. Kids can learn not to take losses to heart, see how far they've come along, etc. We've all been in that game: 1 minute to go, your team is down by one score, game and playoff on the line. The intensity and level of play gets unreal, and that is when you really see what you're truly capable of, firing on all cylinders.

Take away the scoring and playing for something, it takes away the mental aspect of the game, which as far as I am concerned, pretty much kills it.

1OSUNUT
04-10-2009, 09:47 AM
Maybe he can teach his Michigan players to be competitive and play with heart. Most kids that play in beginner sports can care less about the score - they are having fun. All they care about is running around, having a good time and getting ice cream after the game. It's the parents that try to live out their failed sports career through their kids. Being a coach myself I see this all the time. To pull a kid at a young age because they do not keep score is going way overboard - if its true.

Sports should be educational untill the 9th grade of high school. Sure there are exceptions like AAU and traveling teams (for the more serious kids) but that does not start untill the kids are 10 years old or so. Let the kid have fun. One more year like RR had last year and he may reverse his train of thought and hope to God that they stop keeping score when his Wolverines play.

BBA1994
04-10-2009, 10:24 AM
Maybe he can teach his Michigan players to be competitive and play with heart. Most kids that play in beginner sports can care less about the score - they are having fun. All they care about is running around, having a good time and getting ice cream after the game. It's the parents that try to live out their failed sports career through their kids. Being a coach myself I see this all the time. To pull a kid at a young age because they do not keep score is going way overboard - if its true.

Sports should be educational untill the 9th grade of high school. Sure there are exceptions like AAU and traveling teams (for the more serious kids) but that does not start untill the kids are 10 years old or so. Let the kid have fun. One more year like RR had last year and he may reverse his train of thought and hope to God that they stop keeping score when his Wolverines play.

So you're saying parents let their children be coached by you even though they see tressy's wanker hanging from your lips? I find that hard to believe.

Blue In Ohio
04-10-2009, 08:01 PM
Nut your comment on the kids is correct but that's where it ends. Honestly I had to laugh at what you said about Michigan. You can't honestly believe that but it was a funny joke. I can't wait to start dominating this series again and see the OSU fans crying after the losses. It's only a matter of time. Enjoy this while you can.

byebyelloyd
04-11-2009, 09:12 AM
Maybe he can teach his Michigan players to be competitive and play with heart. Most kids that play in beginner sports can care less about the score - they are having fun. All they care about is running around, having a good time and getting ice cream after the game. It's the parents that try to live out their failed sports career through their kids. Being a coach myself I see this all the time. To pull a kid at a young age because they do not keep score is going way overboard - if its true.

Sports should be educational untill the 9th grade of high school. Sure there are exceptions like AAU and traveling teams (for the more serious kids) but that does not start untill the kids are 10 years old or so. Let the kid have fun. One more year like RR had last year and he may reverse his train of thought and hope to God that they stop keeping score when his Wolverines play.

are you really this fucking stupid? have you not seen what he did with every team he's coached. are you too fucking stupid to see what tressel can not accomplish with the alledged superior talent he gets? can you not tell the similarities between he and carr? 4 bowl losses in a row? a string of QBs who can not throw which will obviously continue into the next 4-5 years? how many other warning signs do you wish to see before your ignorant brain wakes up and watches ohio state slide into obscurity again?

RealSchool
04-11-2009, 11:39 AM
My son is 4 and looked at the T and said "throw me pitches". :)