OSU ripping down Michigan Banner before game..

[Bighouse]

My God, can you imagine if this happend today? OSU ripping down the Michigan banner. Blood would be shed.

watch the first 10sec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhGZ0ZnVDH8

[bighousemike84]

I kinda wish they would do that. You wanna talk about motivation! If UOS ripped down the banner that basically insures a win for Michigan

[Don Unverferth]

[QUOTE=bighousemike84;11663]I kinda wish they would do that. You wanna talk about motivation! If UOS ripped down the banner that basically insures a win for Michigan[/QUOTE

Rivals reminisce about 1973 tie of OSU, Michigan
Posted 11/15/2006

Keeping Score
Christine Brennan USA Today


They are now in their early 50s, two former quarterbacks linked by circumstance and history. Dennis Franklin and Cornelius Greene have never met, which is odd, because they once were part of one of the most revered of all Michigan-Ohio State games, a contest played 33 years ago that looks as if it has come back to life to be played again this Saturday.
There was another time when a strong, undefeated, untied Michigan team and an equally feared, unbeaten Ohio State team met in the final game of the regular season. The year was 1973. That was when Greene's Buckeyes were ranked No. 1 and Franklin's Wolverines were not No. 2, but close, at No. 4.

"I thought it was No. 1 vs. No. 2," Greene, Ohio State's sophomore quarterback at the time, said over the phone the other day. "It blew me away to hear it was No. 1 vs. No. 4. Michigan had a great team, with All-Americans lined up everywhere, and so did we. I remember that game like it was yesterday."

A then-NCAA record crowd of 105,223 packed Michigan Stadium that day. The game was on national television, of course. It was cold and wet, which meant rival coaches Woody Hayes and Bo Schembechler had every excuse to do what they were planning to do anyway: run the ball.

"I had hurt my thumb on my passing hand the week before, so I went back to attempt a pass only once, and when no one was open, I ran," Greene said with a laugh. "Coach Hayes didn't trust me to throw. Then again, he never trusted anyone to throw."

Ohio State pulled ahead 10-0 by halftime, but Michigan stormed back, tying the game 10-10 midway through the fourth quarter on Franklin's 10-yard run. Michigan got the ball back and moved to midfield late in the game when Franklin, then a junior, was hit, landing hard on his right shoulder. He didn't play another down. His collarbone was broken.

Michigan tried twice to win the game in the final minute on long field goals, but both went wide and the game ended in a tie. "If we went to overtime," Greene said, "we'd have been there all night playing until somebody said 'Uncle.' "

Although the Big Ten athletics directors had to vote on which team to send to the Rose Bowl, there seemed no doubt it would be Michigan. It had played far better as the game wore on, and Ohio State had been to the Rose Bowl the previous year.

But in a stunning decision that Schembechler says he still hasn't gotten over, the Big Ten ADs voted 6-4 to send the Buckeyes to the Rose Bowl. Because those were the days before everyone and his cousin got to play in a bowl, undefeated Michigan had to stay home.

"I was devastated," Franklin said by phone Wednesday. "I remember Bo Schembechler coming into the meeting trying to explain why we weren't going to the Rose Bowl. But he couldn't explain it."

It's always been believed that Franklin's injury tipped the vote to the Buckeyes. For Franklin, that's particularly galling because he was healthy by Jan. 1, 1974. "The AP sent a reporter to my home in Massillon, Ohio, and took a picture of me throwing a snowball," he said.

Franklin was the leader of what likely is the best team in college football never to go to a bowl game. In his three seasons, Michigan went 30-2-1 (the two losses were to Ohio State) and never was ranked lower than sixth in the nation after early in his sophomore year. "I guess I was somewhat bitter, wondering how it would have changed my life if we had had the additional exposure, but I eventually got over it," he said.

Greene, thinking back on it, said it was "highway robbery" what happened to those Michigan teams. "People dream of having records like that."

Greene, a year younger than Franklin, said he secretly looked up to his rival because both were their school's first black starting quarterback. "I was proud of it, but didn't want to be labeled," Greene said. "He set the bar so high. I wanted to emulate him."

"They used to call me Michigan's first black quarterback," Franklin said, "but I worked very hard to just be Michigan's quarterback."

Franklin and Greene have never talked about this because they've never spoken. "Isn't that amazing?" said Greene, 52, who works for the Washington, D.C., government. "We didn't speak right after the game because the crowd took over the stadium, and we've never met since then."

"It's kind of weird," said Franklin, 53, who sells real estate in Beverly Hills, Calif. "I have a lot of respect for him. I'd be more than happy to meet him."

A continent away, Greene hoped that would happen someday. "You talk about respect. I know I'd like him because Bo Schembechler and Woody Hayes recruited the same type of guys. When we played Michigan, it was like you were playing yourself."


Posted 11/15/2006 11:48 PM ET E-mail | Save | Print |

[Bo Rather]

That game definitely upset me, but it didn't compare to the one the next year when Lantry hit the winning field goal only to have the fearful officials wave it off. Can't blame them; however, it was close, and they would have had their limbs torn off by the idiots pouring on to the field.

[1OSUNUT]

I would much rather kick your rivals ass - and leave. Do not disrespect them or give them anything to post on a bulletin board for the following year. Like Woody did in 1968. Tressel had his team take a knee in 2007 in AA with over a minute left in the game so he would not rub it in.

[Frank Rizzo]

I wish tressel would take a knee in the ass..u faggott cunt buckeye fan.

[RichRodriguez]

welcome to 1973

[rickyleach]

One of the great osu/michigan games , michigan got shafted and deserved to go, osu went back to c/bus with their tail between their legs, as far as the banner thing,only a classless program like ohio states would do that, i think bo bitchslapped woody after the game and set the record straight.

[1OSUNUT]

How many National Championships did Bo win ? 0-24

[bighousemike84]

Lloyd Carr wasnt exactly the best coach ever and he won 1 NC. Tressel has 1 NC but once he starts losing to Michigan that 1 win will be forgotten quickly

[rickyleach]

nut , i know you were still suckin on mommys titty, but if the big10 was able to send more then one team to a bowl game michigan probably would have won a title for bo, that group of guys that got shafted in 1973 never went to a bowl game and was 30 -1 and 2 in their time at michigan..

[1OSUNUT]

EXCUSES - EXCUSES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is all I ever get from you guys. The truth is Bo was 0-24 - period.

[rickyleach]

and whats your excuse ,for suckin mammas tits for so long, i guess because you moved on and now enjoy tressesyees wanker. a few more years of tressey get his asss handed to him in big games and you will have to find someone else to latch on to , tressey will be a thing of the past ,AND ILL BE LAUGHIN MY ASSS OFF..

[UM4life]

EXCUSES - EXCUSES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is all I ever get from you guys. The truth is Bo was 0-24 - period.

So what? He's still done more with his life then you and he's dead.

[rickyleach]

great post UMLIFE, YOU ARE SO RIGHT,,

[Don Unverferth]

So what? He's still done more with his life then you and he's dead.

http://www.deadschembechlers.com/deadschembechlers_002.htm

:D

[1OSUNUT]

You have to love the Dead !!!!!!!!

[hail2mich]

You have to love the Dead !!!!!!!!

Those retards just show how CLASSLESS Ohio St. is. The day Bo died, Ohio St. fans were talking trash about what a great day it was, ect.

[NCBLUE]

nut in your mind is Woody's national titles more important than his losing record to Bo when comparing the two ?

[Don Unverferth]

nut in your mind is Woody's national titles more important than his losing record to Bo when comparing the two ?

I'd say that it's a no brainer. Not only would I take the national championships, but I'll also take the heisman trophy winners, the better rose bowl record, and numerous more first round draft picks and All Americans any day. Woody did have a losing record against Bo but the series was only 4-5-1 with two losses to Bo at the end of his career.

[1OSUNUT]

I agree with Don. Give me the NC and the HT winners. Michigan was great back in the day of the horse and buggy at pretty mediocre after that. All they really have to show for their so called greatness is a CO-National Championship in 1997 . The Buckeyes had some thin / losing years but have been pretty consistant winners decade after decade. Michigan did most of its winning in the 40's when there was not much competition and they were much bigger then most schools they played. I would say Michigan's records are pretty padded. Harvard has a lot of wins as well - are they a great program or have they just been playing longer then most teams.

Same thing with Michigan. They have the most wins because they have been playing so long and have piled a lot of wins up against schools that don't even exist anymore. When was their last outright National Championship ? 1940 what ?

[zwem]

I agree with Don. Give me the NC and the HT winners. Michigan was great back in the day of the horse and buggy at pretty mediocre after that. All they really have to show for their so called greatness is a CO-National Championship in 1997 . The Buckeyes had some thin / losing years but have been pretty consistant winners decade after decade. Michigan did most of its winning in the 40's when there was not much competition and they were much bigger then most schools they played. I would say Michigan's records are pretty padded. Harvard has a lot of wins as well - are they a great program or have they just been playing longer then most teams.

Same thing with Michigan. They have the most wins because they have been playing so long and have piled a lot of wins up against schools that don't even exist anymore. When was their last outright National Championship ? 1940 what ?

I'm going to post some facts and make you look like a dumbass. You probably won't even reply after I list them.

From 1970-1999 Michigan was third in wins behind Nebraska and Penn.St and second in % behind Nebraska.

Bo Finished in the top 10 in his first 10 seasons at Michigan when he took over in 1969. How many coaches have done that?

In the 70s Michigan won 7 Big Ten Titles. They won 5 in the 80s and 5 in the 90s. Even though Michigan has struggled in the 2000s, they still have won 3 titles.

Michigan hasn't won many national championships in the modern era and I know most people will take shots at Michigan for that. Then again OSU has only won 1 title since the early 70s (2002)

From 1956-2005 Michigan is 5th in winning % despite them having some rough years in the 50s and 60s.

OSU is 2nd only behind Nebraska.

Sorry, but Michigan was good after the Great Depression. They have been good for a long time and are one of the most consistent programs of all time.

Lets looks at wins now. Michigan has 872 wins. Up until 1940 Michigan won around 40% of those. OSU has 808 wins. Up until 1940 OSU won around 33-34%. It seems to me OSU won 1/3 of their games pre 1940. It works both ways. Also Michigan has played only 36 more games than OSU. Michigan could take off the next three seasons and OSU could go 36-0 and still not match the win total for Michigan.

I'm just throwing facts at you. You can sit down now:)

[bluefan]

Zwem>1DOUCHENUT.

1DOUCHENUT = Pwned.

[The Michigan Man]

I'm just throwing facts at you. You can sit down now:)

Nicely done. Looks like someone needs to go get his shine box and get to work on your shoes, Zwem...