Harris, Sims make a decision to stay at UM.

[Bighouse]

Michigan head coach John Beilein announced Friday that senior DeShawn Sims and junior Manny Harris have reached a decision on whether or not to make themselves eligible for the NBA Draft.

And it's good news for U-M basketball fans.

"In order to address the speculation around DeShawn and Manny's future we are announcing that both these young men have decided to continue their respective educational paths here at the University of Michigan," said Beilein in a statement. "Since the completion of our season we have gathered enough information for everyone to feel good about this decision. I am anxious to see their continued growth and I am excited to coach these two, as well as the rest of the team next season."

"I have decided to stay at the University of Michigan to not only work towards finishing my degree, but to continue working on my game," said Sims. "I am on schedule to graduate next May and that is going to be a very special moment for me. With Coach Beilein here I can see myself growing even more mentally, physically and athletically. There is a lot of excitement surrounding next season and we really want to take the next step in restoring the proud tradition of Michigan basketball on the national level."

"I have decided to stay in school and continue to work on my University of Michigan degree," added Harris. "This decision will also allow me to work hard at becoming an even more complete basketball player. We had a good season and I really enjoyed making the NCAA Tournament with my teammates. We really want to build a great program here at Michigan and we are on that path. The turnaround from my freshman year to my sophomore was big and I feel we will continue to do even more."

Sims and Harris led U-M in almost every statistical category and combined to score 1,130 points this season, the 12th best for a U-M duo in a single campaign.

[bighousemike84]

Not entirely surprising but none the less good to hear. I wasnt so much worried about Sims, Harris I could have seen bolting. I find it hard to believe that Harris will stay for his senior season but heres hoping

[primetime101]

nice! lets do work next year

[deltguy2]

With these 2 back and having some guys with size to play inside, coupled with the incoming players we have this next season, we should be able to contend for a Big 10 title....atleast in the top 2-3 teams.

[1OSUNUT]

They had no choice. They may not of been drafted this year.:D

[rickyleach]

sure is great to see a coach that can keep his kids longer then 1 year , michigan will be tough in 2009/10, you need to be up front and honest with kids you recruit ,if not they leave early..

[The Michigan Man]

They had no choice. They may not of been drafted this year.:D

Actually they were projected as 2nd rounders.

Sounds like someone is jealous because Michigan players are willing to come back while tUOS basketball players race out of Columbus like their asses are on fire as soon as they possibly can.

[bighousemike84]

Actually they were projected as 2nd rounders.

Sounds like someone is jealous because Michigan players are willing to come back while tUOS basketball players race out of Columbus like their asses are on fire as soon as they possibly can.

Whats funny is that the UOS academic programs are in danger of losing scholarships as a penalty for not meeting required academic standards! The basketball program along with a few others are on the cusp of dropping below the required graduation rate and if that happens they lose at least 1 scholarship. Matta probably was cursing Mullens name after he declared for the draft

[1OSUNUT]

The reason why they are in trouble is because so many kids have left early for the draft.

[bighousemike84]

The reason why they are in trouble is because so many kids have left early for the draft.

I am aware of that dumbass. Hence Matta cursing Mullens name. Do I have to spell it out for you!?

[BBA1994]

I am aware of that dumbass. Hence Matta cursing Mullens name. Do I have to spell it out for you!?

Unless it's spelled T R E S S Y' S W A N K E R, Nut has no attention span for it.

[The Michigan Man]

The reason why they are in trouble is because so many kids have left early for the draft.

That's what I'm talking about.

tUOS doesn't get kids to commit, like Joaquim(sp) Noah and Tyler Hansborough(sp) did to their respective schools, choosing to stay with the program in order to win an NC instead of chasing $. Both of those guys would have been drafted highly had they decided to enter the draft, but chose not to.

What is it about tUOS that its players, like Oden, would rather abandon their program than stay and try to win an NC?

[1OSUNUT]

It is becoming a problem across the board - at almost all the elite schools. Every year OSU, Kansas, Memphis, North Carolina and others have had kids bail after one year. This hurts the overall team atmosphere. I would almost rather have kids that are very good - not great. Like a Purdue or Gonzaga would get. This way the kids would stay four years and develope senior leadership. The kids just use the college program to play for one year and bolt to the NBA. I would like to see the NCAA get rid of the rule or make them stay 3 years. They should also make the rule consistant for all sports. The NCAA as a whole is the one that suffers. These kids in most cases quit the second basketball is over.

[BBA1994]

It is becoming a problem across the board - at almost all the elite schools. Every year OSU, Kansas, Memphis, North Carolina and others have had kids bail after one year. This hurts the overall team atmosphere. I would almost rather have kids that are very good - not great. Like a Purdue or Gonzaga would get. This way the kids would stay four years and develope senior leadership. The kids just use the college program to play for one year and bolt to the NBA. I would like to see the NCAA get rid of the rule or make them stay 3 years. They should also make the rule consistant for all sports. The NCAA as a whole is the one that suffers. These kids in most cases quit the second basketball is over.

Nice try lumping tuos in with the "elite" schools nut. Now go take your tressifier in the corner and watch spongebob.

[hail2mich]

It is becoming a problem across the board - at almost all the elite schools. Every year OSU, Kansas, Memphis, North Carolina and others have had kids bail after one year. This hurts the overall team atmosphere. I would almost rather have kids that are very good - not great. Like a Purdue or Gonzaga would get. This way the kids would stay four years and develope senior leadership. The kids just use the college program to play for one year and bolt to the NBA. I would like to see the NCAA get rid of the rule or make them stay 3 years. They should also make the rule consistant for all sports. The NCAA as a whole is the one that suffers. These kids in most cases quit the second basketball is over.

You're putting Ohio St. in the same class as Kansas, Memphis, and N.C.?
By the way, both Purdue and Gonzaga are much better than Ohio St. in basketball too.

[1OSUNUT]

Im not putting Ohio State in the class of those schools win wise. I included them becuase in the last three years Ohio State has lost as many freshman as anybody to the NBA. If I'm not mistaken they have lost 5 or 6 players in the last three years. Although the Buckeyes have had sucess under Matta they are not at the level of a Kansas, North Carolina, Memphis,etc.

[BBA1994]

Im not putting Ohio State in the class of those schools win wise. I included them becuase in the last three years Ohio State has lost as many freshman as anybody to the NBA. If I'm not mistaken they have lost 5 or 6 players in the last three years. Although the Buckeyes have had sucess under Matta they are not at the level of a Kansas, North Carolina, Memphis,etc.

Nut take tressy's dillweed out of your mouth for a minute and think. tuos is not a basketball school rich with tradition like Kansas, North Carolina, UCLA, etc. and neither is tuos a football school rich with tradition like UM, USC, ND, Nebraska, etc. tuos is simply a school with 5,000 alums and 90,000 truckers gathering around a toilet bowl on Saturdays slugging beer and burning couches.

[The Michigan Man]

Im not putting Ohio State in the class of those schools win wise. I included them becuase in the last three years Ohio State has lost as many freshman as anybody to the NBA. If I'm not mistaken they have lost 5 or 6 players in the last three years. Although the Buckeyes have had sucess under Matta they are not at the level of a Kansas, North Carolina, Memphis,etc.

It still begs the question: truly "elite" programs (those that win NCs, not tUOS) like Florida and NC are able to retain their star players, like Noah and Hansborough. TUOS is not, guys like Oden and Mullen flee at the 1st opportunity instead of staying and contributing. Why is that?

Take a close look at your coach for the answer.

[1OSUNUT]

BBA1994,

Ohio State has as much or more tradition in football as Michigan does. The Buckeyes ARE an elite program. In fact with the exception of having the most wins in the history of college football - there is nothing all that special about Michigan anymore. They did most of their winning in the 40's against much smaller schools, many of them don't even exist anymore. They have one co-championship to show for the last 50 years or so of football. Maybe you have a different way to calculate tradition. When it comes to wins, championships, national titles, all americans, heisman winners and NFL players the Buckeyes do not take a backseat to anybody - period. The Ohio State Buckeyes are top 5 program presently and historically. Michigan is not.

[The Michigan Man]

BBA1994,

Ohio State has as much or more tradition in football as Michigan does. The Buckeyes ARE an elite program. In fact with the exception of having the most wins in the history of college football - there is nothing all that special about Michigan anymore. They did most of their winning in the 40's against much smaller schools, many of them don't even exist anymore. They have one co-championship to show for the last 50 years or so of football. Maybe you have a different way to calculate tradition. When it comes to wins, championships, national titles, all americans, heisman winners and NFL players the Buckeyes do not take a backseat to anybody - period. The Ohio State Buckeyes are top 5 program presently and historically. Michigan is not.

Elite status isn't gained or loss in the short term. Over a school's long history, there are peaks and valleys. ND and Michigan have been at a low point in the short term - long term, both programs have a reputation and legacy that extends well beyond a 5-10 year period of performance.

Or were you hibernating during the 2-11-1 (vs. Michigan) Cooper head coaching tenure? Shouldn't tUOS be considered permanently lacking in tradition because of that lapse? If not, then teams like ND and Michigan shouldn't be, either.

[BBA1994]

BBA1994,

Ohio State has as much or more tradition in football as Michigan does. The Buckeyes ARE an elite program. In fact with the exception of having the most wins in the history of college football - there is nothing all that special about Michigan anymore. They did most of their winning in the 40's against much smaller schools, many of them don't even exist anymore. They have one co-championship to show for the last 50 years or so of football. Maybe you have a different way to calculate tradition. When it comes to wins, championships, national titles, all americans, heisman winners and NFL players the Buckeyes do not take a backseat to anybody - period. The Ohio State Buckeyes are top 5 program presently and historically. Michigan is not.

While tressy's swizzler may be top tier to you nut, tuos is a Tier 2 football school. Certainly in the top 20 historically and traditionally but Tier 2 none the less. Not in the same class as UM, ND, Nebraska, Oklahoma, USC, etc. Being good for the last decade doesn't make tuos a top tier program.

[1OSUNUT]

With the exception of most wins - what makes Michigan so special ? How can you call them elite when they have not won an outright National Championship since the 40's. Michigan has not had a Heisman winner since 1997. In fact nobody special enough to even be mentioned since 1997. Not what you would expect from an elite program.

[The Michigan Man]

With the exception of most wins - what makes Michigan so special ? How can you call them elite when they have not won an outright National Championship since the 40's. Michigan has not had a Heisman winner since 1997. In fact nobody special enough to even be mentioned since 1997. Not what you would expect from an elite program.

In another forum, you called tUOS basketball elite. You haven't won an NC in basketball since 1960, shared or otherwise. Why the double standard?

PS. No one special since 1997? Yeah, Tom Brady isn't special, right? Hahahaha...brilliant!

[1OSUNUT]

He was not a Heisman contender and was much better after he left Michigan. He is a way better pro then he ever was a Wolverine. You guys just ride his coat tail because he went to Michigan. He was not special like Troy, Archie or Eddie was - not even close.

[BBA1994]

He was not a Heisman contender and was much better after he left Michigan. He is a way better pro then he ever was a Wolverine. You guys just ride his coat tail because he went to Michigan. He was not special like Troy, Archie or Eddie was - not even close.

UM = elite
tuos = NOT
tressy's willy = nut's mouth

[The Michigan Man]

He was not a Heisman contender and was much better after he left Michigan. He is a way better pro then he ever was a Wolverine. You guys just ride his coat tail because he went to Michigan. He was not special like Troy, Archie or Eddie was - not even close.

Do you think that Brady would trade his 3 SB rings and 2 SB MVPs in for a Heisman and a nonexistant pro career like Jason White, Chris Weinke, Rashaan Salaam, Charlie Ward, Gino Torretta, or Troy Smith. What is the point of winning the Heisman if your NFL career is a disaster? You are supposed to be the best player in college football, and yet you can't get off the bench at the pro level? Sad...

Brady is not only "special", he is on the Mt. Rushmore of QBs along with guys like Joe Montana and John Elway as one of the all time greatest QBs and NFL athletes - before it is all over, he may be heralded as THE greatest. Troy Smith can't carry his jockstrap and to mention the two in the same sentence should be considered a criminal act.

[1OSUNUT]

The conversation was about college football - not what a player did in the pros. How does Brady's sucess in New England make Michigan elite ? He sure was not that good in college. If anything The Patriots should get the credit for making him great - not Michigan. Brady would not be on the all-time Mt.Rushmore for QB's either. He is very good but lets not get crazy. Brady was on some very very good teams as well. Let's see how well he does this year. Matt Cassell did not start a game since high school and played very Brady like last year. In fact if they had less injuries on defense they could of really battled Pittsburgh. I for one think it's the system more then it is the QB. Last season proved that. Brady was just in the right spot at the right time.

[Wolvrin704]

The conversation was about college football - not what a player did in the pros. How does Brady's sucess in New England make Michigan elite ? He sure was not that good in college. If anything The Patriots should get the credit for making him great - not Michigan. Brady would not be on the all-time Mt.Rushmore for QB's either. He is very good but lets not get crazy. Brady was on some very very good teams as well. Let's see how well he does this year. Matt Cassell did not start a game since high school and played very Brady like last year. In fact if they had less injuries on defense they could of really battled Pittsburgh. I for one think it's the system more then it is the QB. Last season proved that. Brady was just in the right spot at the right time.

Same could be said of allot of players, especially in college including one Troy Smith. Great players take advantage and prove they have the ability.

As for UM not having any great players since 1997.....did you miss Jake Long?

[1OSUNUT]

Solid - not great. Orlando Pace was mentioned for Heisman consideration - was Long ?

[The Michigan Man]

Solid - not great. Orlando Pace was mentioned for Heisman consideration - was Long ?

Pace came in 4th in 1996. Does that mean he's a great player?