Wings vs. Penguins

[amazinblue]

This is the final a few predicted. I know the NHL / NBC are working on the scheduling - I just don't like that two of the games will be played "back to back" with no day off in-between.

Hopefully, Datysuk and Lidstrom will be ready for Saturday night.

Go Wings Go...

[The Michigan Man]

Detroit in 6 - although Pittsburgh is somehow more scary this year, despite losing Hossa.

There have been so many role players that have contributed I am at a loss to pick an MVP - probably Ozzy for being consistently good, although I think The Mule has been solid.

I hate that the schedule is made with no regard at all for the players. The rush to start the Finals with only a few days off is ridiculous, not to mention 2 games in a row. This isn't ping pong, the players need time to recuperate.

Also, this is from the 97.1 website, regarding the shameless slobbering that will commence over Sid:

The NBC Crosby drinking game!

Every time NBC shows a montage of "Sid the Kid" that includes any of the following; a sweaty SC, a backlit SC, SC scoring a goal and/or SC in the tunnel with a spotlight behind him...Drink!

NBC = Nothing But Crosby!

[rickyleach]

go wings and how about 22 year old darren helms, what a great game he had last nite.. i agree wings in 6

[hail2mich]

I don't like how they have the first 2 games of the series set up either. Back to back game on the weekend, with Game 1 at 8 p.m. and Game 2 TBD. I know NBC wants an earlier game on Sunday, but anything before 6 p.m. on Sunday would be terrible. Throughout the playoffs, the games have been every other day or two days, but now they want to cram the Finals in less time. It doesn't make sense. I love hockey, but the NHL would be SO much better if Bettman was gone.

[amazinblue]

I think the scheduling is absolutely ridiculous - the NHL / NBC could easily have gone Sunday / Tuesday - Thursday / Saturday for the first four - or even moved the games three and four to Friday / Sunday.

I like the way the Wings are handling this - "disappointed, but focusing on the work that needs to be done" - very similar to the goal that was whistled with under a minute to play against Anaheim that would have sent the game to OT.

Go Wings Go...

[Check]

Wings in six, I would like to say five but I think Wings win the first two and then lose game three...like the almost always do. Lidstrom is expected to play on Saturday, hopefully Pavel will be ready. Wings have a ton of depth and get scoring from lines three and four. If the Wings win I think Ozzie wins the Conn Smythe.

[UM4life]

The schedule is NBC BS. Its back-to-back to avoid and problems with Conan taking over the Tonight Show on Monday. NBC sucks anyways and does the bidding of GE but this is just stupid and puts the players at risk of more injuries (for both teams).

As for the games, with all the injuries if the Wings lose game 1 they will lose game 2 because of NBC and then the series, probably in 7. The Pens arent injured and beat up like Detroit and lets face it, they are hunrgy for the Cup like Detroit was in 97 after the spanking in 95 by NJ and then losing in the finals to the Av's in 96.

[zilla]

The way the came down to Raleigh and put a beatdown on the Hurricanes really caught my attention. The Wings will need to dig deep to win this one.

[Wolvrin704]

Way to go Wings!!!!

2-0

[UM4life]

Un-frakn-real. Crosbys highlight reel is a bitch slap after game 1 and a fight at the end of game 2, he was shut out of game 1 yet they say "pretty good" and "played well again" for game 2, what a joke, are you kidding me? ESPN/NBC and the media still promote this guy like hes Kobe then refer to Ozzy as "good enough" (as Oz is playing like a Conn Smythe winner and was first star for both games) and Detroits defence as "hack Defence". when Detroit scores its either they blame a non-call or a 'whif" by Fleury. Not to mention NBC/Versus are seening the ratings drop so theres no way they are going to let Bettman suspend a star player like Malkin.

watch the video and vomit as ESPN stokes on off over Crosby and the Pens: http://espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=290531005

btw, Abdelkader is the best 'kid' on the ice from what i've seen.

[amazinblue]

Un-frakn-real. Crosbys highlight reel is a bitch slap after game 1 and a fight at the end of game 2, he was shut out of game 1 yet they say "pretty good" and "played well again" for game 2, what a joke, are you kidding me? ESPN/NBC and the media still promote this guy like hes Kobe then refer to Ozzy as "good enough" (as Oz is playing like a Conn Smythe winner and was first star for both games) and Detroits defence as "hack Defence". when Detroit scores its either they blame a non-call or a 'whif" by Fleury. Not to mention NBC/Versus are seening the ratings drop so theres no way they are going to let Bettman suspend a star player like Malkin.

watch the video and vomit as ESPN stokes on off over Crosby and the Pens.

No doubt - the love that NBC has for the Pens is ridiculous. And, I can accept certain comments and observations from broadcasters, but - this is getting extremely difficult to listen to. The broadcasters are talking about "interference" on the Wings, and say nothing about how the Pens are using knees and elbows away from the puck. The frustration in the Pens is showing - and - I hope that Datsyuk finds a way back into the lineup.

Go Wings Go...

[UM4life]

(212) 789-2000 League office. I called and filed a complaint that Malkin was not suspended for his instigated fight at the end of game 2 and Campbell waived it for the sake of ratings.

[zilla]

My favorite part was with about 35 seconds left NBC started talking about how you are not in trouble until you have lost at home and the Penguins have sent a message in this game. Yeah real message, down 2-0 and your 2 stars aren't doing crap.

[amazinblue]

My favorite part was with about 35 seconds left NBC started talking about how you are not in trouble until you have lost at home and the Penguins have sent a message in this game. Yeah real message, down 2-0 and your 2 stars aren't doing crap.

And, who's missing from Detroit's lineup - Hart candidate Pavel Datsyuk and Draper - and, there's no mention of it.

I'm beginning to wonder what Crosby will do with the Eastern Conference trophy next year - assuming they win it...


And, here's an interesting article on the Instigator Suspension that Malkin should be serving for game three. http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=ArIPRxUELujC6grJX1NXHf17vLYF?slug=jp-malkin053109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[hail2mich]

btw, Abdelkader is the best 'kid' on the ice from what i've seen.

Abdelkader looked good with Grand Rapids this year, and it has carried over to the Wings. It seems the Wings always have a great future. I just wish they wouldn't play that damn MSU fight song after he scores.

[Wolvrin704]

My favorite part was with about 35 seconds left NBC started talking about how you are not in trouble until you have lost at home and the Penguins have sent a message in this game. Yeah real message, down 2-0 and your 2 stars aren't doing crap.

Yeah that line just left me puzzled. They kept talking at the end of the game about the momentum that the Pens had going back home. All I could say was "what game are you watching"? It was unreal that the Pens threw their best shot at the Wings and behind the outstanding and under-rated goaltending of Ozzy the Wings took that shot and knocked it back into the Pens goal. The Wings just plain outplayed the Pens at every turn with good old-fashioned hustle.

I will give NBC this much, they did bring up the stat that of the 32 teams to lose games 1 and 2 of the finals only the 1971 Canadiens came back to win.

[amazinblue]

Tonight is key. I would dearly love to see the Wings win - and go up 3-0. I don't care if the ratings suffer - or if I have to watch every future playoff game on Versus. I hope that Babcock has Lidstrom / Zetterberg extremely focused on Crosby and that we shut down the "tremendous scoring combination of Crosby / Malkin" one more time. And, yes - I know that Malkin has two points in the Finals.

Go Wings Go...

[The Michigan Man]

My favorite part was with about 35 seconds left NBC started talking about how you are not in trouble until you have lost at home and the Penguins have sent a message in this game. Yeah real message, down 2-0 and your 2 stars aren't doing crap.

I was cracking up at this! They also mentioned that the Pens had a lot of positives to take away from this game with a lot to build on, as compared to last year. WTF? Just like last year, the Pens lost 2 games that were not even close, and the biggest, brightest icon of hope and glory to walk / skate on water since Jesus, Sid Crosby, was shut out both times. Wow, he hit a post, let's build a statue for him.

This coverage is terrible! Go Wings!

[amazinblue]

I'm watching Game 3 - and, I must say the officiating really is ridiculous this game. The penalties just don't seem to be being called "evenly" - Malkin initiates at the end of game 2 and the NHL says "oh, that's ok", the Penguins have six men on the ice and the refs don't even notice, the Pens are interfering every time the Wings cross the blue line and there's no call.

I understand and accept that the NBA is full of bull in their officiating, but hockey? What's the world coming to?

[zilla]

I'm watching Game 3 - and, I must say the officiating really is ridiculous this game. The penalties just don't seem to be being called "evenly" - Malkin initiates at the end of game 2 and the NHL says "oh, that's ok", the Penguins have six men on the ice and the refs don't even notice, the Pens are interfering every time the Wings cross the blue line and there's no call.

I understand and accept that the NBA is full of bull in their officiating, but hockey? What's the world coming to?

Come on man, are you trying to tell me that NBA stars get special treatment!!! :D:D:D

I think Lebron travels 30 times per game.

[The Michigan Man]

I'm watching Game 3 - and, I must say the officiating really is ridiculous this game. The penalties just don't seem to be being called "evenly" - Malkin initiates at the end of game 2 and the NHL says "oh, that's ok", the Penguins have six men on the ice and the refs don't even notice, the Pens are interfering every time the Wings cross the blue line and there's no call.

I understand and accept that the NBA is full of bull in their officiating, but hockey? What's the world coming to?

There is a lineman whose only purpose is to police line changes - how there could be 6 men on the ice for 25 seconds is incomprehensible!

Since the Wings lost game 3 there will be a game 5 in Detroit, and the NBC crew is back. Which means more shameless slobbering over Crosby by the gushing Pierre MacGuire...

http://imgsrv.971theticket.com/image/wxyt/UserFiles/Image/MCM/cindy2.jpg

[amazinblue]

Come on man, are you trying to tell me that NBA stars get special treatment!!! :D:D:D

I think Lebron travels 30 times per game.

Zilla,

No doubt about it - the NBA officials are a joke - an absolute joke. I think it might have been Denver / Houston - when Houston had a foul to give, fouled, and the foul wasn't called - resulting in a Denver three and the game as time expired. There is more traveling in the NBA than in most airports.

And, some of the "changes" that happen - like "recalling a technical foul" on someone in the NBA so they wouldn't get an automatic suspension with two more technical fouls in the playoffs. There's no doubt that the rules have a lot of interpretation. And, if you're a "superstar" in the NBA, it's almost impossible for you to pick up more that four fouls in a game - regardless of what you do.



I'm watching game four - and I'm wondering how can you trip someone who is behind you? The penalty called on Holmstrom for allegedly tripping Malkin was absolutely bull. I wonder what these refs are calling...

[hail2mich]

WAY TOO SLOPPY with the puck through the first 2 periods. It's tough to win if the Penguins keep getting those 2 on 1 rushes.

[zilla]

Anyone worried yet?

[hail2mich]

I'm a little worried. I think Game 5 will make or break the series for the Wings.

[The Michigan Man]

Anyone worried yet?

If you would have told me a week ago that the series would be 2-2 going into Game 5, I wouldn't have been surprised at all. Both teams held serve at home, not necessarily that remarkable.

I am concerned about the defensive lapses. The failure to clear the zone, lazy passes, turnovers resulting in odd-man rushes - that isn't Detroit hockey, and that sloppiness is causing Ozzie to get hung out to dry, as shown last night in that 6 minute, 3 goal flurry by Pitt in the 2nd period.

I think the Wings will respond at home and have a chance to close it out in Game 6. They haven't put together a complete game yet - they need to play all 60 minutes.

[TNTWolverine]

that 2nd period stretch was bad, and its not like they scored on their only chances. there were a handful of other plays that were damn close, and malkin almost scored in the last second of the period. the pitt forwards are forcing turnovers in the defensive and neutral zone and if the wings cant limit those then pitt will win the cup. datsyuk will be a huge boost in puck control and he is one of the best at calming everybody down with his play. game 5 winner will likely win it all.

[amazinblue]

...datsyuk will be a huge boost in puck control and he is one of the best at calming everybody down with his play. game 5 winner will likely win it all.

I think there are a lot of factors contributing to the series being 2-2. First, as you can infer from my comments above - the officiating has been garbage. I can accept the refs calling a game tight, or letting the play get physical - but, I cannot accept them calling it two different ways based on the team - the penalty against Malkin that resulted in the Penguin's first powerplay goal was ridiculous, the offside that occured during the resulting powerplay that wasn't called, the interference on Lidstrom when Osgood played the puck a few minutes later - I mean, this is just unacceptable at this level and time of the season. These should be the best that the NHL has to offer - not some rookie crew making rookie (or junior) mistakes...

Pittsburgh is bringing a physical quality to the play - which is fair, and Babcock and the Wings need to make them pay for it. And, that is with deeper offense and greater puck control. I don't know if the ice is bad or there's something on the pucks - but, I have seen more pucks take funny bounces thus far in the series than I think I have during the entire regular season. The inability to clear the zone has created very difficult situations for the Wings, and I do think a focused effort can right the ship.

I also think that the NHL scheduling of four games in six days didn't do anything to help the Wings heal and put their absolute best team on the ice.

I hope that Datysuk is back on the ice Saturday and that the Wings show what they're really made of.

I give Pittsburgh credit for fighting back - but, I think that the NHL leadership and officiating have left a great deal to be desired this series - a great deal.

[zilla]

"the offside that occured during the resulting powerplay that wasn't called"


We are not talking a few inches, he was several feet offsides.

BTW, the lead story for ESPN this morning regarding the game was "Sid scores." Even Malkin has to be saying WTF??!!

[bluefan]

I'm still not sure where the slobber fest for Crosby came from. Read in SI a while back where they polled the actual players to see who they thought was the best player in the NHL.
1. Ovechkin
2. Lidstrom
3. Malkin
4. Datsyuk
5. Iginla
6. Zetterburg
Don't see Sid the douche in there. They did mention he was 8th. Not sure why they showed the top 6 but not top 8 or ten.

[The Michigan Man]

I'm still not sure where the slobber fest for Crosby came from. Read in SI a while back where they polled the actual players to see who they thought was the best player in the NHL.
1. Ovechkin
2. Lidstrom
3. Malkin
4. Datsyuk
5. Iginla
6. Zetterburg
Don't see Sid the douche in there. They did mention he was 8th. Not sure why they showed the top 6 but not top 8 or ten.

That list shows something glaring that isn't talked about nearly enough (by the media) - the 4th best player is not on the ice for Detroit. How would the series look right now if Pitt didn't have Malkin?

If you are a long standing Detroit fan, it is hard to draw upon any comfort from the past. I've seen Detroit come back and win a series after losing the 1st 2 at home to Vancouver in 2002, and then turn around and get swept by the Ducks the following year. Detroit also lost Game 5 at home against Colorado in the conference finals in 2002, but then won Game 6 & 7 to advance to the Stanley Cup finals. Its hard to draw any conclusions!

[amazinblue]

That list shows something glaring that isn't talked about nearly enough (by the media) - the 4th best player is not on the ice for Detroit. How would the series look right now if Pitt didn't have Malkin?

If you are a long standing Detroit fan, it is hard to draw upon any comfort from the past. I've seen Detroit come back and win a series after losing the 1st 2 at home to Vancouver in 2002, and then turn around and get swept by the Ducks the following year. Detroit also lost Game 5 at home against Colorado in the conference finals in 2002, but then won Game 6 & 7 to advance to the Stanley Cup finals. Its hard to draw any conclusions!

Michigan Man,

I hear what you say, but - if the Pens win on Saturday - with the officiating the way it is - let's just say six men on the ice for "how long"? - I just don't think that the Wings could come back against these forces and win back to back games.

And, the comments about Datsyuk not playing - or really, the lack of comments about that - says wonders about the state of the NHL.

Go Wings Go....

[zilla]

That list shows something glaring that isn't talked about nearly enough (by the media) - the 4th best player is not on the ice for Detroit. How would the series look right now if Pitt didn't have Malkin?

If you are a long standing Detroit fan, it is hard to draw upon any comfort from the past. I've seen Detroit come back and win a series after losing the 1st 2 at home to Vancouver in 2002, and then turn around and get swept by the Ducks the following year. Detroit also lost Game 5 at home against Colorado in the conference finals in 2002, but then won Game 6 & 7 to advance to the Stanley Cup finals. Its hard to draw any conclusions!

Regarding the past, has there ever been a bigger pick up then when they got Brendan S ? I thought he was the perfect fit for the Wings needed.

[UM4life]

tonight is a huge game for Detroit. Datsyuk is back, Detroit is a home and the series is tied. In my eye, Detroit 'has' to win because I dont think they can win at Mellon in game 6 even with two days off.

[hail2mich]

Great job tonight. Datsyuk was great, and the whole team played much better than the last few games. Also, the refs were actually decent today.

[bigboyBlue]

Wow, that was ruthless :D. There is absolutely nothing Pittsburgh can take away from this game...except that they're a bunch of thuggy cry babies when things don't go their way.

[The Michigan Man]

3 days rest + Pavel = Detroit closes it out in Game 6. This has been a great series!

[hail2mich]

The Pens showed what a bunch of whiners they are in the 3rd, with Crysby leading the way. This should be the new anthem for the NHL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XKyMv0xpt8&feature=related

[Wolvrin704]

The Pens showed what a bunch of whiners they are in the 3rd, with Crysby leading the way. This should be the new anthem for the NHL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XKyMv0xpt8&feature=related


Now thats a great song! :D

[bigboyBlue]

The Pens showed what a bunch of whiners they are in the 3rd, with Crysby leading the way. This should be the new anthem for the NHL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XKyMv0xpt8&feature=related

Awesome! Related...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y7I0RY8CHE&feature=fvw

[zilla]

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/detroit_pittsburgh_both_attempting?utm_source=a-section

Leave it to the Onion to come up with this.

[TNTWolverine]

wings get their first chance at the cup tonight but im not sure what to expect. pitt is obviously hungry so im really hoping the wings are on the lucky end of some bounces early. just something to relax them a bit and force the pens to get desperate. im having visions of hossa winning it in overtime though. now that would be awesome

[rickyleach]

Wings get beat tonite and then win friday at the joe.

[bigboyBlue]

Great, now why couldn't they play the entire game like the last period? Now I'm not going to sleep right for two nights...

[TNTWolverine]

Great, now why couldn't they play the entire game like the last period? Now I'm not going to sleep right for two nights...

exactly. the wings have always been terrible at winning their series at first chance. they just love to let teams hang around. sooner or later, you get stung. i honestly think this thing is like 50/50 for who wins friday. i will take a game 7 like the one against colorado in 02 though.

[UM4life]

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/detroit_pittsburgh_both_attempting?utm_source=a-section

Leave it to the Onion to come up with this.

Reminds me of http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103811

but the best is http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103802

[UM4life]

Game 7 tonight...

[The Michigan Man]

Game 7 tonight...

Yes, I've been on edge! The way that Detroit has been playing at Joe Louis, I feel very good about their chances tonight. However, during the course of a game, anything can happen...

Fleury has played awful in Detroit, and with Babcock's ability to have the 2nd line change, he will be able to have Pavel and Z shadow Crosby and Malkin and contain them. The boys from the Motor City drink from the cup tonight! Go Wings!

[zilla]

If you had to pick between a Red Wing win tonight or a Michigan win vs OSU in the fall what would you pick?

[bigboyBlue]

If you had to pick between a Red Wing win tonight or a Michigan win vs OSU in the fall what would you pick?

Wings win tonight, I have a bet with a hardcore Penguins fan who is going to make my wardrobe, office and life unbearable if they win...

[Plus 1]

Yes, I've been on edge! The way that Detroit has been playing at Joe Louis, I feel very good about their chances tonight. However, during the course of a game, anything can happen...

Fleury has played awful in Detroit, and with Babcock's ability to have the 2nd line change, he will be able to have Pavel and Z shadow Crosby and Malkin and contain them. The boys from the Motor City drink from the cup tonight! Go Wings!




They did'nt even need Crosby to finish off game 7. The boys from the Steel City drink from the cup tonight! Good Job Penguins!!! YES!!!!!!:D

Good thing Pavel and Z did'nt shadow Crosby, he was sitting most of the night!:eek:

Are we havin' fun yet???:p

[zilla]

They did'nt even need Crosby to finish off game 7. The boys from the Steel City drink from the cup tonight! Good Job Penguins!!! YES!!!!!!:D

Good thing Pavel and Z did'nt shadow Crosby, he was sitting most of the night!:eek:

Are we havin' fun yet???:p

I think it is funny how every dirtbag from Ohio has now adopted the Penguins as their hockey team. Plus1 do you even know what icing is?

An OSU fan trolling about losing a championship, this is classic stuff.

[The Michigan Man]

They did'nt even need Crosby to finish off game 7. The boys from the Steel City drink from the cup tonight! Good Job Penguins!!! YES!!!!!!:D

Good thing Pavel and Z did'nt shadow Crosby, he was sitting most of the night!:eek:

Are we havin' fun yet???:p

Uh oh, some one has been hitting the sauce again...what did I tell you about these late night postings?

Aren't you an Ohio "person"? You like Pittsburgh now? Pathetic...

[bluefan]

Uh oh, some one has been hitting the sauce again...what did I tell you about these late night postings?

Aren't you an Ohio "person"? You like Pittsburgh now? Pathetic...

Hey, "at least we there". Amiright? Amiright?

[Voleye]

Great series! The officiating was really bad in the entire series. The first two games the Wings got away with tons of stick grabbing and interference, almost nothing was called. Then the Pens having 6 guys on the ice, that was really bad! I would expect better officiating in the finals!

Why are Wings fans hating on Sid? He is clearly one of the top players in the league. Maybe not the best, but one of a handful at the top. I was laughing my a$$ off in the game 6 post game presser, Babcock was asked about if he was seeing the Pens become a dynasty, He responded by saying when you have money and the top two players in the league players will come to play for you for less money. HELLO isn’t that what traitor Hossa did? He took far less money for a chance to win in Detroit than he could have had in NY or even Pittsburgh.

Before you start crap by saying another guy from Ohio rooting for a Pittsburgh team, Just to screw the Michigan fans. I have been a Pens fan since the first two cups in the early 1990’s. I like the Blue jackets, But I have been a Pens fan for much longer.

[The Michigan Man]

Great series! The officiating was really bad in the entire series. The first two games the Wings got away with tons of stick grabbing and interference, almost nothing was called. Then the Pens having 6 guys on the ice, that was really bad! I would expect better officiating in the finals!

Why are Wings fans hating on Sid? He is clearly one of the top players in the league. Maybe not the best, but one of a handful at the top. I was laughing my a$$ off in the game 6 post game presser, Babcock was asked about if he was seeing the Pens become a dynasty, He responded by saying when you have money and the top two players in the league players will come to play for you for less money. HELLO isn’t that what traitor Hossa did? He took far less money for a chance to win in Detroit than he could have had in NY or even Pittsburgh.

Before you start crap by saying another guy from Ohio rooting for a Pittsburgh team, Just to screw the Michigan fans. I have been a Pens fan since the first two cups in the early 1990’s. I like the Blue jackets, But I have been a Pens fan for much longer.

I don't know about "hating" Sid, but I get tired of people claiming he is the next Gretzky when he hasn't done anything. And this includes the series with Detroit, where he scored 1 goal in 7 games. He still hasn't done anything. "The Great One" didn't disappear during high pressure situations, he took over and dominated. The Pens found a way to win without him, which I give them credit for.

As far as Hossa being a "traitor", can a guy be a traitor when he only 60 games for the Pens, spending 8 seasons with the Senators and 1 with Atlanta? Everyone acts like he betrayed Pittsburgh - how much loyalty does a player generate in 1 partial season with a team? That's silly. Its just more dramatic bullshit that is conjured up to create excitement.

I'm curious how you became a Pens fan back in the 1990s just to "screw the Michigan fans" when the Pens-Wings rivalry only began in 2008. Before that they had never met in any type of meaningful game in their histories.

[Voleye]

Very true. I dont think Sid is no where near Gretzky, Now or never. I don't think there is another player that compares to 99 in the game now.

I wanted to say that I have been a Pens fan since 1990. That I did not become a Pens fan in the last two years or post on here just because Im from Ohio.

It would have been fine with me if Hossa just signed somewhere else. There is no team loyalty. But he said he felt he had a better chance to win the cup with the Wings. If he had not said that it would be a non issue. No one cares Conklin signed with the Wings.

[hail2mich]

Here is the injury report for the Wings:

http://www.freep.com/article/20090613/SPORTS05/90613030/0/SPORTS05

You just have to think about the pain some of those guys were playing through. Lidstrom had testicular surgery and came back to play, Rafalski ruptured a disk in his back. It also talks about Draper, Datsyuk, and Cleary. One player that isn't named is Hossa. He just put too much pressure on himself.

Hockey players are the toughest!

On another note, I really think losing the Cup this year will put the hunger back into the Wings. They didn't seem to have the want this year like they had in the past, but after the past series, it will be back. Can't wait for next season. Go Wings!

[hail2mich]

The Penguins parade was today, and they had 350,000 people show up. Ouch! That's not a very good turnout. The Wings had 1.4 million last year. That's 4x more people.

[bluefan]

The Penguins parade was today, and they had 350,000 people show up. Ouch! That's not a very good turnout. The Wings had 1.4 million last year. That's 4x more people.

Yeah, and everyone's trying to ram down our throats that Pittsburgh is the new Hockeytown.

[The Michigan Man]

On another note, I really think losing the Cup this year will put the hunger back into the Wings. They didn't seem to have the want this year like they had in the past, but after the past series, it will be back. Can't wait for next season. Go Wings!

I do agree the hunger should be back.

In addition, the regular season for the defending Cup champs is always very grueling. Opposing coaches circle your game on the calendar, the players are more motivated and hit harder, the fans are more fanatic - everyone wants a piece of the champ. The wear and tear on Detroit was evident as the playoffs wore on.

I really hope they keep Osgood, I thought he played good enough to win. 3 out of the last 4 goals he allowed in games 6 & 7 were due to defensive lapses, not his poor play. Also, the goal support in those games (1 in each) was unacceptable.


Yeah, and everyone's trying to ram down our throats that Pittsburgh is the new Hockeytown.

Pittsburgh is definitely a football first city, while Detroit is hockey first. Living in Cleveland I probably see one Pens jersey for every 10 Steelers jersey. Did anyone care about the Pens before the Mario era in the mid 1980s? Detroit has been hockey crazy for over 75 years.

[Plus 1]

I think it is funny how every dirtbag from Ohio has now adopted the Penguins as their hockey team. Plus1 do you even know what icing is?

An OSU fan trolling about losing a championship, this is classic stuff.

I've watched the Penguin's play hockey longer than most of you have been alive. That was way before the Columbus Blue Jackets came on the scene. In fact I have a hard time rooting against the Penguins even when they play Columbus.

Icing??? Duh gee, would that be shooting the puck from within your own defensive area the length of the ice beyond your opponent's goal? Do we get points for answering these questions of yours?

Yeah you're right we are only 1-2 in NCs since 2001. Don't be too hard on him though, Tressel's only taken OSU to 3 NCs in 8 years.

Let's see now....what's Michigan's record in the NC since 2001 ???

I know what Oklahoma's NC record is since 2001- ..0-3 !!! :eek:

[Plus 1]

Uh oh, some one has been hitting the sauce again...what did I tell you about these late night postings?

Aren't you an Ohio "person"? You like Pittsburgh now? Pathetic...



You're in Ohio too stupid... you like Michigan ?... Pathetic!!! You live in Ohio, are you a New England Patriots fan ? Pathetic? Go Steelers!

I was probably watching the Penguin's play Hockey before you were even a bad idea in your parents head !!! {Unless you were an accident.} and Ohio did'nt have an NHL team.

Maybe you're the one who's been "hittin the hooch" late at night...maaaaaybe???

BTW: When I want your advice about the time of day I choose to post I assure you I will humbly ask for it...........NOT!!!:rolleyes:

[Voleye]

Nicklas Lidstrom playing thru testicle surgery and Gonchar played with a partially torn right MCL. Thats one of the reasons I love the NHL.

Game 7 was the most watched NHL finals game since 1973!

[zilla]

"In fact I have a hard time rooting against the Penguins even when they play Columbus."


So here we have it, the life time Penguins fan is torn when they play another team. If this doesn't say bandwagon I don't know what does.

[The Michigan Man]

You're in Ohio too stupid... you like Michigan ?... Pathetic!!! You live in Ohio, are you a New England Patriots fan ? Pathetic? Go Steelers!

I was probably watching the Penguin's play Hockey before you were even a bad idea in your parents head !!! {Unless you were an accident.} and Ohio did'nt have an NHL team.

Maybe you're the one who's been "hittin the hooch" late at night...maaaaaybe???

BTW: When I want your advice about the time of day I choose to post I assure you I will humbly ask for it...........NOT!!!:rolleyes:

I'm not from Ohio. I grew up in Michigan - I don't cherrypick which teams I pick and randomly choose teams here and there (like you do with Pittsburgh), I'm loyal to the region I come from.

As far as me being a New England fan, I don't know where you get that (I'm a Brady fan, which isn't the same thing), and that's why I encourage you to stop posting at 2:00am after you've drank yourself into a stupor.

[Wolvrin704]

Funny how Plus 1 shows up AFTER the Wings lose the cup. Where was all this Pens talk before Game 7 and in fact during the entire playoffs?

His definition of icing is close but not quite right. But he would argue the semantics of it anyways. :eek:

[The Michigan Man]

Funny how Plus 1 shows up AFTER the Wings lose the cup. Where was all this Pens talk before Game 7 and in fact during the entire playoffs?

His definition of icing is close but not quite right. But he would argue the semantics of it anyways. :eek:

Yeah, he's been following the Pens for 30+ years, yet doesn't post anything prior to the series ending? Where was he when the Pens were down 2-0???

The icing definition is flat out wrong. The puck is iced when it is played across the center red line, not from the defensive zone blue line necessarily, and crosses the goal line. So the answer is "no", you don't get any points.

[Wolvrin704]

Yeah, he's been following the Pens for 30+ years, yet doesn't post anything prior to the series ending? Where was he when the Pens were down 2-0???

The icing definition is flat out wrong. The puck is iced when it is played across the center red line, not from the defensive zone blue line necessarily, and crosses the goal line. So the answer is "no", you don't get any points.

He's here for his usual summer ranting and he'll disappear shortly after football season begins. He'll claim he's far too busy to post on here very often.......whatever. And where was he last year when the Wings crushed the Pens?

Correct definition of icing MM!

For Plus 1 it has to be hit across by both red lines and untouched by any player. Thats what happened just before their first goal, but I still will admit the Wings were flat outplayed the first 2 periods and couldn't get anything to happen in the last other than 1 goal. Congrats to the Pens, they earned the Cup.

BTW, living in Ohio I also get sick of all the Pittsburgh fans. Whether its the Steelers, Pens or Pirates (ok maybe not so many Pirate fans) thats all you see around here. I have never seen an area of so many bandwagon fans. You'll literally find people who are fans of Buckeye football, Steelers, Reds, Cavaliers, Pens, and whoever is good at college basketball that year. In this area you can almost literally find a fan of just about any team in the nation because they have no loyalty to their teams, except of course "they've all been Buckeye fans since birth" but you couldn't find them 10 years ago.

[Voleye]

"I don't cherrypick which teams I pick and randomly choose teams here and there (like you do with Pittsburgh), I'm loyal to the region I come from."

When I started following the Pens, there wasn't an NHL team around here. We had Detriot to the north, Pittsburgh to the east, and Chicago to the north west. Like I said. I like the Bluejackets, Im happy they are here. But I have always been a Pens fan. There were some really bad years in the late 90's early 2000's. I have posted here before in the NHL and UM hockey fourms. Im not posting here because the Wings lost.

[Plus 1]

Yeah, he's been following the Pens for 30+ years, yet doesn't post anything prior to the series ending? Where was he when the Pens were down 2-0???

The icing definition is flat out wrong. The puck is iced when it is played across the center red line, not from the defensive zone blue line necessarily, and crosses the goal line. So the answer is "no", you don't get any points.



Flat out wrong eh? I just now checked the definition in Webster's dictionary for the hockey term "icing" They almost agree word for word except the word "rink" I said ice. If the puck travels the entire length of the ice past the opponents goal witout entering the net it has to cross the red lines. here it is:


Source: WordNet (r) 1.7

icing
n 1: the formation of frost or ice on a surface [syn: frost]
2: a flavored sugar topping used to coat and decorate cakes
[syn: frosting, ice]
3: (ice hockey) the act of shooting the puck from within your
own defensive area the length of the rink beyond the
opponent's goal [syn: icing the puck]

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary
defensive zone:
the zone or area nearest a team’s goal (the goal they are defending).

So according to you two experts Webster and I are flat out wrong.

Maybe we should rewrite the Webster's dictionary and make it the MM- 704 dictionary.??????


Here's the link, just put the word icing in the little search box. Can you do that?:
You 2 would argue with "God" if he said "Good Morning" to you. You guys would try to give him the weather report for the day from the U.S. Weather Bureau, and tell him it was going to be a "Bad Morning." That loss to Pittsburg really struck a nerve did'nt it???

http://dictionary.die.net/language

[Wolvrin704]

Flat out wrong eh? I just now checked the definition in Webster's dictionary for the hockey term "icing" They almost agree word for word except the word "rink" I said ice. If the puck travels the entire length of the ice past the opponents goal witout entering the net it has to cross the red lines. here it is:


Source: WordNet (r) 1.7

icing
n 1: the formation of frost or ice on a surface [syn: frost]
2: a flavored sugar topping used to coat and decorate cakes
[syn: frosting, ice]
3: (ice hockey) the act of shooting the puck from within your
own defensive area the length of the rink beyond the
opponent's goal [syn: icing the puck]

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary
defensive zone:
the zone or area nearest a team’s goal (the goal they are defending).

So according to you two experts Webster and I are flat out wrong.

Maybe we should rewrite the Webster's dictionary and make it the MM- 704 dictionary.??????


Here's the link, just put the word icing in the little search box. Can you do that?:
You 2 would argue with "God" if he said "Good Morning" to you. You guys would try to give him the weather report for the day from the U.S. Weather Bureau, and tell him it was going to be a "Bad Morning." That loss to Pittsburg really struck a nerve did'nt it???

http://dictionary.die.net/language

Lets go to the rule book shall we....

For the purpose of this Rule, the center red line will divide the ice into halves. Should any player of a Team, equal or superior in numerical strength to the opposing Team, shoot, bat or deflect the puck from his own half of the ice beyond the goal line of the opposing Team, play shall be stopped and the puck faced-off at the end face-off spot of the offending Team, unless on the play, the puck shall have entered the net of the opposing Team, in which case the goal shall be allowed.

For the purpose of this Rule, the point of last contact with the puck by the Team in possession shall be used to determine whether icing has occurred or not. As such, the Team in possession must "gain the line" in order for the icing to be nullified. "Gaining the line" shall mean that the puck (not the player's skate) must make contact with the center red line in order to nullify a potential


Linky:
http://www.nhl.com/rules/rule65.html

I rely on the good 'ol NHL rules rather than a dictionary since it is their game and rules. As you can see it says the red line and the goal line which also happens to be red. SO again you are wrong. BTW, if you reread YOUR dictionary definition it basically says the same thing we did. If the puck is shot in the defensive area it is beyond the red line and goes to the opposite goal line. You said the entire length of the ice.
the puck travels the entire length of the ice

BTW, I would never argue with God, he's my BFF. :D

Apparently you don't listen or read when I say the Pens earned the win and outplayed the Wings. :rolleyes:

[The Michigan Man]

Flat out wrong eh? I just now checked the definition in Webster's dictionary for the hockey term "icing" They almost agree word for word except the word "rink" I said ice.

Are you serious?? You are citing the Webster's dictionary as your source for definining "icing"? That would make perfect sense if the NHL referees were skating around with Webster's dictionaries under their arms. "Hey, was that interference, quick, look it up under "I" before I blow my whistle!" You are freakin' hilarious! Decades of allegedly watching hockey and this is all you have???

News flash - refs follow the NHL rulebook, and don't pull rules from a dictionary. Holy sh*t you are a piece of work! Read Wolvrin704's posting of the NHL rule and educate yourself.

PS - God is laughing at you because you had to consult a dictionary to understand icing.

[Voleye]

Well, um, icing happen when the puck come down, bang you know, before the other guys you know. Nobody there, you know. My arm go comes up then the game stop then start up.

Denis Lemieux