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Medic
06-09-2009, 12:52 PM
About friggin time someone did. Excellent article and reaffirms everything I already knew about the current administration. What the hell has happened to journalism in the MSM? Sigh...


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124451592762396883.html

"Mr. Obama's comments yesterday are a perfect illustration of just such a claim. In the months since Congress approved the stimulus, our economy has lost nearly 1.6 million jobs and unemployment has hit 9.4%. Invoke the magic words, however, and -- presto! -- you have the president claiming he has "saved or created" 150,000 jobs. It all makes for a much nicer spin, and helps you forget this is the same team that only a few months ago promised us that passing the stimulus would prevent unemployment from rising over 8%."

To summarize for those too lazy to read. The administrations claim's about jobs created or saved are complete bullshit and are essentially lying their asses off since they know none of their pals in the MSM will call them on it.

zilla
06-09-2009, 01:27 PM
NPR talked about the exact same thing this morning.

goblue
06-09-2009, 10:06 PM
Still too early to tell. But it's looking more and more like Obama's going to end up like a Jimmy Carter. I don't see him lasting more than one term. On top of that many of the experts are predicting high interest rates on top of the deficit and unemployment, just like Jimmy Carter. He's already shown he's weak on foreign policy, just like Jimmy Carter.

zilla
06-10-2009, 08:56 AM
"I don't see him lasting more than one term."


67% approval rating yeah he is doomed. LOL!

Remember kooks, you all are not mainstream and the rest of the country is happy with Obama after 8 years of failure from GWB.

bluefan
06-10-2009, 09:47 AM
"I don't see him lasting more than one term."


67% approval rating yeah he is doomed. LOL!

Remember kooks, you all are not mainstream and the rest of the country is happy with Obama after 8 years of failure from GWB.

Yeah, wasn't Bush even higher than that around 9/11? Soon as the country realized he wasn't good for much else than keeping us safe his ratings plummeted.
We're still in the afterglow of voting in the first "not all white" president. Once the "mainstream" realizes he's all teleprompter and no substance he'll follow the same fate. At least Bush had the balls to kick Al Qaeda in the ass. Suckbama's got nothing going for him once his newness wears off.

zilla
06-10-2009, 10:13 AM
Bush kept us safe????? The people that died on 9-11 will disagree.

bluefan
06-10-2009, 10:25 AM
Bush kept us safe????? The people that died on 9-11 will disagree.

Wow. Just wow.

zilla
06-10-2009, 10:28 AM
Nice to see you make light of 9-11 ^^^^ Unreal and sad.

bluefan
06-10-2009, 10:29 AM
Nice to see you make light of 9-11 ^^^^ Unreal and sad.

Again: Wow.

zilla
06-10-2009, 10:35 AM
Question for the mouth breathers. If Obama is responsible for all things bad after 5 months why can't Bush be held responsible for 9-11 after 8 months?

I think I know the biased answer I will receive, but look forward to the humor none the less.

bluefan
06-10-2009, 10:43 AM
Question for the mouth breathers. If Obama is responsible for all things bad after 5 months why can't Bush be held responsible for 9-11 after 8 months?

I think I know the biased answer I will receive, but look forward to the humor none the less.

I'm not blaming the economy of the last year or so on Obama. I'm just saying he has no f-ing clue what to do about it and the way he's spending us into oblivion sure as hell isn't helping.
I don't give 2 shits what party affiliation there is. Someone needs to save us and so far these moron libs that are drunk with power are doing nothing but driving us into communism. Could a conservative do any better? Maybe, maybe not. The fact is that it's your clown in there now and so far he's made it worse. You libs held nothing back on Bush's f-ups. You expect us to hold back on Obama's?

Medic
06-10-2009, 11:27 AM
Question for the mouth breathers. If Obama is responsible for all things bad after 5 months why can't Bush be held responsible for 9-11 after 8 months?

I think I know the biased answer I will receive, but look forward to the humor none the less.

I could turn this absurd statement on its head by saying that due to 8 years of Clinton gutting our military and intelligence services, our ability to protect ourselves was crippled and Bush didn't have enough time in office to get us back on track. Also the fact that we were being attacked all over the world (USS Cole, Kenyan Embassy, WTC 93' and all on Clinton's watch) and that nothing was being done, and it emboldended terrorists to carry out 9-11.

Comparing the current situation to a completely different historical situation and trying to call them equal is just stupid (Economy vs 9-11? Really?). This is the kind of nonsense I expect out of dailykos readers. The "mouthbreathing" condescension towards people with opposing points of view fits right in line with that.

zilla
06-10-2009, 11:49 AM
Ahhhh yes, how soon we are forgetting the memos that GWB received warning of an attack and nothing was done. Zero.

Regarding comparing the economy to 9-11, it is a general observation on the hypocrisy of the right the gives GWB a free pass on his 8 years of being President around the economy (blaming all on a 5 month President Obama) but when it comes to 9-11 a 8 month President is blameless.

Can't have it both ways.

zilla
06-10-2009, 11:54 AM
"Bush didn't have enough time in office to get us back on track."


And a 5 month President has had enough time to turn around the largest economy in the history of the world? WOW!!! Do you think before posting?

Biased. Absurd. Pathetic. Hypocrite. Shall I continue?

Medic
06-10-2009, 12:20 PM
You assume that someone here has said Obama is 100% to blame for the economy. They would have given you a valid argument. To my recollection there has been lots of complaining about policy but no direct statements of "its all his fault!!".

You might want to follow your own advice about thinking before posting.

Obama's team is not turning it around, he's making it much...MUCH worse. It would have turned around on its own given an opportunity.

edit: Seriously zilla for your own good stop using strawman arguments and ad hominem attacks. It just makes you look weak. It might make you popular amongst your peers on liberal blogs but it has no place in civil discourse.

Wolvrin704
06-10-2009, 01:07 PM
Ahhhh yes, how soon we are forgetting the memos that GWB received warning of an attack and nothing was done. Zero.

Regarding comparing the economy to 9-11, it is a general observation on the hypocrisy of the right the gives GWB a free pass on his 8 years of being President around the economy (blaming all on a 5 month President Obama) but when it comes to 9-11 a 8 month President is blameless.

Can't have it both ways.

And had he done what would have been needed to be done to stop such an attack everyone would have been screaming bloody mary about their civil liberties.

The Michigan Man
06-10-2009, 01:24 PM
"I don't see him lasting more than one term."


67% approval rating yeah he is doomed. LOL!

Remember kooks, you all are not mainstream and the rest of the country is happy with Obama after 8 years of failure from GWB.

Who exactly fits in the "mainstream" category? The people in the big cities?

That 67% is unsustainable. Let's see what it is next year at this time if the job losses continue. The shit is about to really hit the fan with the Big 3 "bailout" debacle.

zilla
06-10-2009, 03:57 PM
Who exactly fits in the "mainstream" category? The people in the big cities?

That 67% is unsustainable. Let's see what it is next year at this time if the job losses continue. The shit is about to really hit the fan with the Big 3 "bailout" debacle.

Sorry you hate the Red Wings.

bluefan
06-10-2009, 04:41 PM
Sorry you hate the Red Wings.

Dynamite drop-in, Marty.

mgoblue1
06-10-2009, 06:17 PM
Yeah, wasn't Bush even higher than that around 9/11? Soon as the country realized he wasn't good for much else than keeping us safe his ratings plummeted.
We're still in the afterglow of voting in the first "not all white" president. Once the "mainstream" realizes he's all teleprompter and no substance he'll follow the same fate. At least Bush had the balls to kick Al Qaeda in the ass. Suckbama's got nothing going for him once his newness wears off.

You sir, took the words right out of my mouth. I just hope that he doesn't make it so easy for the ignorant and non contributors to society to live well and continue to breed ignorance. These are the types of people who came out in drones to vote for this fraud.

rickyleach
06-10-2009, 07:31 PM
i just hope he pulls enough strings and gets college football a playoff systen, if he does ,this just might be his one and only thing he did in those 4 years , way to go pres..., i mean after all whats more important then weekends and college football, maybe he can get a law passed to sell beer at college games , that would be great too..