jamal berry in big trouble

[rickyleach]

well buckeye boys ,what can you add to your latest buckeye arrest, sure looks like tressy is still in control, what does that make in 9 years 35 arrested

[Plus 1]

well buckeye boys ,what can you add to your latest buckeye arrest, sure looks like tressy is still in control, what does that make in 9 years 35 arrested



If I were you I would be more concerned with the numbers 7-1, {Tressel's record vs the Maise & Blue} and 42-7 the largest margin of victory in the series in over 40 years, than I would be about the number 35, whatever that is.
I would also be very concerned about the Michigan caoches and players fighting, pushing and shoving each other on the sidelines on national TV like they did during OSU's destruction of UM last November. :eek:

[rickyleach]

destuction is only used for ohio state , 41-14 and 5first downs , 38 -24 ,35 -3 and your asssss beatings in b ball plus your great baseball teams woodshed job SCORE FLA/ST 37 OHIO STATE 6 NOW THATS DESTUCTION ...

[Mike Furley]

well buckeye boys ,what can you add to your latest buckeye arrest, sure looks like tressy is still in control, what does that make in 9 years 35 arrested



You know I'm not a Tessel apologist, but this kid hasn't even arrived on campus yet to be under the supervision of Tressel.

It's still embarrassing, don't get me wrong, but this is a tough one to pin on Tressel. I doubt very much that when Tressel went down there for the in-home visit the kid was cutting up an ounce into little sandwich baggies infront of Tressel.

I guess this is a sign that this kid is a surefire NFL prospect.

[BBA1994]

I doubt very much that when Tressel went down there for the in-home visit the kid was cutting up an ounce into little sandwich baggies infront of Tressel.



Now that made me chuckle. Good start to a Friday morning.

[Don Unverferth]

Jim Tressel is not going to play games with any type of substance abuse. That's the bottom line. You're known by the company you keep. He already knew that it was a Buckeye team rule without consideration for what it reps to the law.

About the only thing that saved Donald Washington was his time already invested in the system. What sunk Erik Haw was a pattern of repeat offense. What sunk Eugene Clifford was a repetitive course and Jim ran out of patience trying to help him steer away from violating team rules.

Whether anyone likes it or not Jim Tressel has a Conservative Christian value system. He doesn't require anyone else to have that, but he does require people to follow HIS rules beyond the legal aspects of illegal substances. DON'T DO IT.......plain and simple, and guys that he recruits, including Jaamal know it.

3 or 4 years at a place that can send you on to a multi-million dollar a year profession should be enough incentive to get guys' heads screwed on straight, and for them to tow the mark to develop the greater goal.

Character weaknesses can be fixed, but the kid has to want it. Jim WILL lead Jaamal to water, but it's up to Jaamal to drink it. If he refuses to drink..........he's done at Ohio State, and potentially the hope for a pro career.

[rickyleach]

donny, when it really gets down to it, the real nitty gritty ...its about winning. jim tressel makes a whole lot of money for winning, this punk is just one more cog on the wheel, just like mo clarett we can do what we want and get by with it, so tressel will say we will wait until after his court date to make a decision why wait. this kid wasnt picked up for no reason,just to charge him for fun ,he is a problem, he is just more trouble , that seems to be a growing reputation with ohio state football players, this kid probably is as dumb as a box of rocks, the bottom line is jim tressel doesnt have the guts to kick him to the curb, and with ohio state ,HOW MANY CHANCES DO YA GET , ANSWER UNLIMITED, TELL ME DON WOULD YOU SAY HE DISRESPECS JIM TRESSEL .OHIO STATE AND THE FANS ,I WOULD ,AND NO ONE REALLY KNEW HIM , GUESS WHAT DON NOW WE DO... GOOD LUCK WITH THIS KID BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE HE WILL BE AT OHIO STATE ,DONT THINK FOR A SECOND HE WILL STOP SMOKIN...

[Plus 1]

destuction is only used for ohio state , 41-14 and 5first downs , 38 -24 ,35 -3 and your asssss beatings in b ball plus your great baseball teams woodshed job SCORE FLA/ST 37 OHIO STATE 6 NOW THATS DESTUCTION ...




I see you believe in the old saying: "If you don't have a flag of your own to wave, wave someone else's.":D

[Plus 1]

donny, when it really gets down to it, the real nitty gritty ...its about winning. jim tressel makes a whole lot of money for winning, this punk is just one more cog on the wheel, just like mo clarett we can do what we want and get by with it, so tressel will say we will wait until after his court date to make a decision why wait. this kid wasnt picked up for no reason,just to charge him for fun ,he is a problem, he is just more trouble , that seems to be a growing reputation with ohio state football players, this kid probably is as dumb as a box of rocks, the bottom line is jim tressel doesnt have the guts to kick him to the curb, and with ohio state ,HOW MANY CHANCES DO YA GET , ANSWER UNLIMITED, TELL ME DON WOULD YOU SAY HE DISRESPECS JIM TRESSEL .OHIO STATE AND THE FANS ,I WOULD ,AND NO ONE REALLY KNEW HIM , GUESS WHAT DON NOW WE DO... GOOD LUCK WITH THIS KID BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE HE WILL BE AT OHIO STATE ,DONT THINK FOR A SECOND HE WILL STOP SMOKIN...


I believe beyond any shadow of a doubt that the only difference between Berry {and others like him}, and many of the rest of the recruits in this country is that they made the mistake of "getting caught".:cool:

[rickyleach]

And plus1 i believe without any shadow of doubt ,that tressel was aware of this kids problems ,but thinks only of himself and says ,just like he did with clarret what can i get out of this kid to bring me more wins and a possible title , before he implodes. Cause jim tressel uses people and is nothing more then a gutless jellyfish. Dont fucckin think for a second tressel doesnt know what he recruits...your post is laughable plus1....

[Plus 1]

And plus1 i believe without any shadow of doubt ,that tressel was aware of this kids problems ,but thinks only of himself and says ,just like he did with clarret what can i get out of this kid to bring me more wins and a possible title , before he implodes. Cause jim tressel uses people and is nothing more then a gutless jellyfish. Dont fucckin think for a second tressel doesnt know what he recruits...your post is laughable plus1....




How bitter!!! You must have just watched the end of the Stanley Cup Final !!!:D Now that was laughable!!!:D

[byebyelloyd]

How bitter!!! You must have just watched the end of the Stanley Cup Final !!!:D Now that was laughable!!!:D

yeah, almost like your blue jackets being swept like they were playing i n little league like they belong, isn't that right pussy?

[rickyleach]

no laughable is YOUR COACH JIMMY TRESSEL , THE SO CALLED CHRISTIAN, FAKE , GUTLESS AND PHONY

[rickyleach]

plus1 ,ive got a great idea ,why doesnt the ohio state athletic department get a hold of sher bono and see if her daughter chasitdy is still looking for a dick ,because tressel inst useing his ,and he is a pussy anyways ,maybe they could just switch, your coach is nothing more then a ball/less prick....

[Plus 1]

yeah, almost like your blue jackets being swept like they were playing i n little league like they belong, isn't that right pussy?


The Jackets are not bad for an expansion team, but what's the Redwings excuse little girl?
The Wings were simply "Outmanned at Home by a better team" {without Crosby BTW}:D

[Plus 1]

plus1 ,ive got a great idea ,why doesnt the ohio state athletic department get a hold of sher bono and see if her daughter chasitdy is still looking for a dick ,because tressel inst useing his ,and he is a pussy anyways ,maybe they could just switch, your coach is nothing more then a ball/less prick....



If I wanted to read pornography I'd drop down to your level and surf the filth, they at least I think provide pictures with their smut talk.:eek:

[rickyleach]

dont worry tressel will show his sex by letting jamal berry off the hook, and by the way plus1 ,thats not porno ,thats your coach, mr fake himself , no balls all PUSSY..

[Wolvrin704]

The Jackets are not bad for an expansion team, but what's the Redwings excuse little girl?
The Wings were simply "Outmanned at Home by a better team" {without Crosby BTW}:D

Yes the Pens were the better team for 4 out of 7 games, no doubt about it and were much better in game 7 (although their 1st goal never should have been allowed as they had iced just seconds earlier and were not called), but I for one will concede on this point.

But the fact is the Wings did win the Cup just a year ago beating this same team and came close to doing it again. No shame in playing a championship series so close, especially seeing as they have won it 4 times out of the last 12.

Columbus has built a nice team in the Blue Jackets and while they are an expansion team that happened 9 years ago so aren't exactly a spring chicken any longer. Tampa Bay after all won a Cup 11 years after their founding. Can the Jackets do the same? We will see.

Detroit in the meantime has won 11 Cups, there is reason they are called Hockeytown USA.

And Crosby still sucks and is still overrated. He managed to score one measly goal the entire series. His teammates do not receive nearly enough credit.

[1OSUNUT]

I do not see how this is Tressel's fault because the kid is not even in Columbus yet. RR recruited this kid as well. If he would of picked Michigan then RR would have a recruit being arrested. I think everybody deserves a second chance but he does not deserve to sniff the field this year.

[Wolvrin704]

I do not see how this is Tressel's fault because the kid is not even in Columbus yet. RR recruited this kid as well. If he would of picked Michigan then RR would have a recruit being arrested. I think everybody deserves a second chance but he does not deserve to sniff the field this year.

But the fact is he is not RR's recruit ......he is Tressel's recruit. While I agree that no blame can be layed on Tressel's door as the kid hadn't arrived on campus yet the fact is there are some startling issues going on in Buckeye land in regards to players in trouble. You can't ignore it and hope it goes away.

[Plus 1]

But the fact is he is not RR's recruit ......he is Tressel's recruit. While I agree that no blame can be layed on Tressel's door as the kid hadn't arrived on campus yet the fact is there are some startling issues going on in Buckeye land in regards to players in trouble. You can't ignore it and hope it goes away.



Hang on to your hat, RR has'nt even got a good start yet, give em time. You may want to wait before saying too much. {Pac Man Jones}

[Wolvrin704]

Hang on to your hat, RR has'nt even got a good start yet, give em time. You may want to wait before saying too much. {Pac Man Jones}

Well there goes my trying to play it straight up with the trolls.....


You have one player that you can point to as a problem for RR. Yet we have 35 for Tressel. Why is it you guys continue to ignore your problem? Is it because you're winning? I know thats how UC fans were when Huggins was here, they ignored all the thugs he recruited because the program was good. Yet they never got anything for it.

I'll take one bad egg over having an average of 4+ per season.

[The Michigan Man]

Hang on to your hat, RR has'nt even got a good start yet, give em time. You may want to wait before saying too much. {Pac Man Jones}

Pac Man Jones wouldn't even be noteworthy if he came from tUOS, he is pretty pedestrian compared to the thugs and criminals that Tressel has developed. How many former players does RR have that are eating prison food, genius?

[rickyleach]

how amaizing ,one of tressels prised pupils is in the news again , mo clarett, maybe he can give jamal berry some good advice..

[Don Unverferth]

Miami Dade Clerk's website is now showing a misdemeanor charge in Berry's case.

[Wolvrin704]

Miami Dade Clerk's website is now showing a misdemeanor charge in Berry's case.

I'm sure he'll get more once he arrives in Columbus.

Funny how someone claims not to have allot of time to post on here but have plenty of time to peruse the Dade County criminal records. :eek:

LOL!!!!!!!!!

[rickyleach]

shoot thats more then jimmy numnuts tressl will give him , DON WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO SEE WHERE YOUR COACH CARES ONLY FOR HIMSELF AND HE NEEDS HIS NEW LATEST CRIMINAL TO RUN FOR TOUCHDOWNS AND MAKE HIM LOOK GOOD ,JIMMY DOESNT GIVE 2 SSSHITS ABOUT HIS PLAYERS WINNING AT ALL COSTS IS THE TRESSEL WAY, HIS BROTHER DICK IN THE MOUTH IS THE SAME WAY...

[Don Unverferth]

I'm sure he'll get more once he arrives in Columbus.

Funny how someone claims not to have allot of time to post on here but have plenty of time to peruse the Dade County criminal records. :eek:

LOL!!!!!!!!!

There you go again, you're not reading my posts. I never said I don't have time to post, I said my time is valuable and I won't spend time arguing with douche bags. I never respond to rickyleach. :D

[rickyleach]

yes you did don... your just like tressel ,talkin out your assend again, i cant wait until michigan hands you and your idiot coach tressel his asssss , and you can take that to the bank , let your girlfriend nutsack know too.

[Wolvrin704]

There you go again, you're not reading my posts. I never said I don't have time to post, I said my time is valuable and I won't spend time arguing with douche bags. I never respond to rickyleach. :D

Why so serious Don? Can't take a little ribbing? All I'm trying to do is needle you guys the same as you do to us all the time. But I have seen time after time that once facts are presented you guys tend to go in your hole and find somewhere else in here to argue.

My point still stands though that once he's in Columbus he'll end up with more of these on his record if not worse. The atmosphere at Columbus does not preclude turning guys into saints who already have a record for this type of behavior.

[rickyleach]

COME ON DON , I WONT ACT THE FOO , i just love f/in with ya , your boy jamal did get off with a lesser charge and that was probably for good reason , nobody wants to see a kid shoved under the bus for a mistake , even though it was stupid ,he is just a kid , he will get his chance to prove himself at ohio state and that is a good thing, im sure osu has already put the young man on notice .. and don one more thing JAMAL WILL GET HIS FIRST GOOD LOOK AT WHAT ITS LIKE TO GET BEAT BY MICHIGAN GO BLUE...

[Plus 1]

It was a stupid thing. Almost "Too" Stupid to be believed. Has anyone ever thought that the dope belonged to someone else, and whoever left it on the seat might not be a real nice person.

Why would Berry {or anyone else for that matter} not try to hide that stuff? It does'nt make sense to stop and just leave it in the open, on the back seat where the cops can't help but see it, unless he did'nt know it was there and would rather let them believe it was his and go to jail, than have a 9mm enema from the real owner if he ratted on him.

I'm not saying Berry does or does'nt do weed. I'm just saying that it makes no sense that he did'nt try to hide it, IF he knew it was there.

The dope dealers around here will shoot you if you rat on them. I assume it's the same way in Miami, to a much greater degree.

He could have been "set up" too. Some people probably did'nt like the idea of one of Florida's best RBs going out of State, and again he might not want to rat on the one's who did it.

It's makes no sense otherwise. He could have made a few turns on the streets and threw the stuff out the window {assuming he knew it was there.} without the cops seeing him. Then all they would have him on would be a burned-out taillight & fleeing a police officer. Most people would put it in the trunk to start with. He was only stopped for a taillight.
It does'nt add up!!!:confused:

[hail2mich]

It was a stupid thing. Almost "Too" Stupid to be believed. Has anyone ever thought that the dope belonged to someone else, and whoever left it on the seat might not be a real nice person.

Why would Berry {or anyone else for that matter} not try to hide that stuff? It does'nt make sense to stop and just leave it in the open, on the back seat where the cops can't help but see it, unless he did'nt know it was there and would rather let them believe it was his and go to jail, than have a 9mm enema from the real owner if he ratted on him.

I'm not saying Berry does or does'nt do weed. I'm just saying that it makes no sense that he did'nt try to hide it, IF he knew it was there.

The dope dealers around here will shoot you if you rat on them. I assume it's the same way in Miami, to a much greater degree.

He could have been "set up" too. Some people probably did'nt like the idea of one of Florida's best RBs going out of State, and again he might not want to rat on the one's who did it.

It's makes no sense otherwise. He could have made a few turns on the streets and threw the stuff out the window {assuming he knew it was there.} without the cops seeing him. Then all they would have him on would be a burned-out taillight & fleeing a police officer. Most people would put it in the trunk to start with. He was only stopped for a taillight.
It does'nt add up!!!:confused:

He probably is just PLAIN DUMB.

[Plus 1]

He probably is just PLAIN DUMB.



Plain dumb wouldn't be enough to make a mistake like that. Grade school drop outs are smarter than that. I don't believe he knew it was there, but he did take the blame for a reason. He feared someone else more than he feared the cops.

[rickyleach]

plus1 , thats interesting , because if you believe that then jamal berry is a much bigger problem then smoking a little weed,

[Wolvrin704]

Plain dumb wouldn't be enough to make a mistake like that. Grade school drop outs are smarter than that. I don't believe he knew it was there, but he did take the blame for a reason. He feared someone else more than he feared the cops.

Very interesting take because if he feared someone else more than he's probably messed up into some really serious stuff. :eek:

[gator]

It was a stupid thing. Almost "Too" Stupid to be believed. Has anyone ever thought that the dope belonged to someone else, and whoever left it on the seat might not be a real nice person.

Why would Berry {or anyone else for that matter} not try to hide that stuff? It does'nt make sense to stop and just leave it in the open, on the back seat where the cops can't help but see it, unless he did'nt know it was there and would rather let them believe it was his and go to jail, than have a 9mm enema from the real owner if he ratted on him.

I'm not saying Berry does or does'nt do weed. I'm just saying that it makes no sense that he did'nt try to hide it, IF he knew it was there.

The dope dealers around here will shoot you if you rat on them. I assume it's the same way in Miami, to a much greater degree.

He could have been "set up" too. Some people probably did'nt like the idea of one of Florida's best RBs going out of State, and again he might not want to rat on the one's who did it.

It's makes no sense otherwise. He could have made a few turns on the streets and threw the stuff out the window {assuming he knew it was there.} without the cops seeing him. Then all they would have him on would be a burned-out taillight & fleeing a police officer. Most people would put it in the trunk to start with. He was only stopped for a taillight.
It does'nt add up!!!:confused:

Plus1, that was a...ummm...pretty sad post there, man! I don't think I'm the only one here thinking that you were reaching for straws with that one. So what options have you left us with on this story?

1. He didn't know it was there - it was right there on the backseat and, by your own admission, the cops couldn't miss it. So he's not only dumb, he is blind as well? Don't even bother to hit me back with the, "How often do you look in the backseat of your car before you get in?" I look in well enough to notice that much dope.

2. It belongs to a "heavy" drug dealer - Funny, those guys usually don't like the cops getting there dope. It also isn't a very efficient method to traffic drugs when a) the mule doesn't know where the drop off is b) the drug dealers don't where the mule might go, and c) the mule could see it sitting right there on the seat and call the police before getting in the car. Further, drug dealer retaliation stories aren't usually that elaborate, and the victim usually doesn't get off so easily.

3. Boosters from FL schools are mad at him, and they wanted to pay him back - Is that what happens at the OSU alumni clubs....they plan hits and shakedowns? I know there are some people out there that take their football too serious for their own good, but come on, man! You think Berry is the first highly rated recruit to leave the state? I know, I know.....it's just OSU's luck that it was your guy that we targeted down here. Now if it was the top recruit out of Ohio coming to FL, I might could buy it. You have plenty of reasons to despise us; we don't have any grude against you......you guys have been so instrumental in getting us our championships:D:D:D. Just kidding on that one. Anyway, I think the odds on this are pretty slim.

Let's face it, some of these kids are just a hair above being legally retarded. When I was in high school, I worked with one of the studs on our high school team. I kid you not that I could have taught a third grader that job easier than that boy. Also, these guys live in a completely different world than most of us. Everyone is always trying to give them free stuff, the local law enforcement usually looks the other way, and they take easier classes than most (if not receiving some "favorable" grading). After a while, they probably start to think they are invincible. I mean how else do you explain players putting millions of dollars on the line by taking illegal drugs while knowing there is a drug testing policy (a la Ricky Williams)? These guys are dumb and arrogant. Unfortunately for OSU, your guy has taken the cake.

[Don Unverferth]

Tressel: No suspension for Berry

Coach Jim Tressel said incoming freshman running back Jamaal Berry will not be held back "by any external circumstances" this fall. The interpretation of that: Berry's pending misdemeanor drug possession charge will not lead to a suspension. Whether -- or how much -- Berry plays is unknown, of course. But there will be no suspension.

Otherwise, Tressel was typically middle-of-the-road and non-committal on many issues.

-- He did express some surprise that Terrelle Pryor was named preseason offensive player of the year.

-- Asked if he would allow a sophomore to be a captain, he hemmed and hawed and finally said he didn't think it would be something he wanted to add to a sophomore's plate....so no, Pryor will not be a captain this year.

-- He was not aware of any players who would not be reporting to fall practice, but then added, "Ask me Thursday, when (summer quarter) grades come in." Senior receiver Ray Small reportedly needs good grades in his summer classes to be eligible this fall.

-- He acknowledged that because the team lost so many experienced players since last year (Laurinaitis, Jenkins, Freeman, Robiskie, Beanie Wells, Hartline, Boone, etc.) that he probably knows less about this team than some others he has had.

That's off the top of my head. If I remember something else notable, I'll post it.

Posted by Ken Gordon on July 27, 2009 1:14 PM | Permalink

Ken is at the Big Ten Media Day in Chicago.

[Plus 1]

Very interesting take because if he feared someone else more than he's probably messed up into some really serious stuff. :eek:


Not if it was a set-up, a or is your mind completely closed to any ideas other than your own?

[Plus 1]

Plus1, that was a...ummm...pretty sad post there, man! I don't think I'm the only one here thinking that you were reaching for straws with that one. So what options have you left us with on this story?

1. He didn't know it was there - it was right there on the backseat and, by your own admission, the cops couldn't miss it. So he's not only dumb, he is blind as well? Don't even bother to hit me back with the, "How often do you look in the backseat of your car before you get in?" I look in well enough to notice that much dope.

2. It belongs to a "heavy" drug dealer - Funny, those guys usually don't like the cops getting there dope. It also isn't a very efficient method to traffic drugs when a) the mule doesn't know where the drop off is b) the drug dealers don't where the mule might go, and c) the mule could see it sitting right there on the seat and call the police before getting in the car. Further, drug dealer retaliation stories aren't usually that elaborate, and the victim usually doesn't get off so easily.

3. Boosters from FL schools are mad at him, and they wanted to pay him back - Is that what happens at the OSU alumni clubs....they plan hits and shakedowns? I know there are some people out there that take their football too serious for their own good, but come on, man! You think Berry is the first highly rated recruit to leave the state? I know, I know.....it's just OSU's luck that it was your guy that we targeted down here. Now if it was the top recruit out of Ohio coming to FL, I might could buy it. You have plenty of reasons to despise us; we don't have any grude against you......you guys have been so instrumental in getting us our championships:D:D:D. Just kidding on that one. Anyway, I think the odds on this are pretty slim.

Let's face it, some of these kids are just a hair above being legally retarded. When I was in high school, I worked with one of the studs on our high school team. I kid you not that I could have taught a third grader that job easier than that boy. Also, these guys live in a completely different world than most of us. Everyone is always trying to give them free stuff, the local law enforcement usually looks the other way, and they take easier classes than most (if not receiving some "favorable" grading). After a while, they probably start to think they are invincible. I mean how else do you explain players putting millions of dollars on the line by taking illegal drugs while knowing there is a drug testing policy (a la Ricky Williams)? These guys are dumb and arrogant. Unfortunately for OSU, your guy has taken the cake.


Not reaching, and certainly not stating facts at all.
What I posted is merely a theory. I hope you are open minded enough to not judge something for which you don't have ALL the facts.

As for looking in back seats when entering the car, a lot of today's cars have tall heads rests and wider than normal bucketseats that would make it necessary to look around the seat purposely to view the back seat. A mear glance does not lend itsself to a clear view of the back seat, in some cars. Also while the owner of the car is not that observing all the time, the cops conversely are always on the look out for things, it's their job to be observing of things that the casual observer is not paid to look for.

I hope you are not a man of a closed mind, and prejudging a person simply because you may want the worst to be true. You don't seem to be that type.

I simply find it very hard to believe a man would say to himself: "I think I'll just pull over and let the cops see that pound of dope on my back seat. I could throw it out or hide it, but no, I want to be caught with this dope, it could really be a lot of fun."

I'm not buying any of it!!! Not at least until I have all the FACTS..:eek:

I don't know what happened and I won't make a definitive judgement but I seriously doubt that he knew it was there. I will keep an open mind and wait and see if a pattern developes with this kid before totally condemning and dismissing a person's life as over before it ever starts as some people tend to do. Not mentioning any names, but some people love to see people fail in life, because they think it makes their own lives look better by comparison.

[Wolvrin704]

Not if it was a set-up, a or is your mind completely closed to any ideas other than your own?

My mind is open to many things, but the fact is people do dumb things just like this all the time. I'm sure if it were a UM player you'd be ready to send them up the river. Sometimes its all about your perspective and I believe that I'm open minded enough to say that everyday cops pull people over who do something just as stupid. I've known a number of drug users over the years and very few have allot of smarts.

[RADRACING]

Anyway he is in camp at OSU and rumor is way better than any of the running backs now there and he will be pushing for playing time as soon as his legal matters are cleared up.

[gator]

Anyway he is in camp at OSU and rumor is way better than any of the running backs now there and he will be pushing for playing time as soon as his legal matters are cleared up.

For a UM fan, you seem to have the lowdown on OSU an awful lot.

[The Michigan Man]

Anyway he is in camp at OSU and rumor is way better than any of the running backs now there and he will be pushing for playing time as soon as his legal matters are cleared up.

That's exciting news for an avid tUOS fan like you, isn't it?

[michAGAIN]

Hey guys, before the season starts, I've arranged for all of us Michigan vs tUOS bloggers on this website to sit down and have a beer at the White House and discuss our differences. Is next Thursday at 6pm good for everyone?

[The Michigan Man]

Hey guys, before the season starts, I've arranged for all of us Michigan vs tUOS bloggers on this website to sit down and have a beer at the White House and discuss our differences. Is next Thursday at 6pm good for everyone?

I would be needing something substantially stronger than beer to endure this debacle!

Is there a place nearby to tie off horses?

[Plus 1]

I would be needing something substantially stronger than beer to endure this debacle!

Is there a place nearby to tie off horses?

No problem just bring your horse in with you MM.:D

[Plus 1]

My mind is open to many things, but the fact is people do dumb things just like this all the time. I'm sure if it were a UM player you'd be ready to send them up the river. Sometimes its all about your perspective and I believe that I'm open minded enough to say that everyday cops pull people over who do something just as stupid. I've known a number of drug users over the years and very few have allot of smarts.



If one is not an eye witness, then that one is a false witness, but for argument's sake if it was a UM player I would do it only if it bothered you, Ole Buddy.;)

[RADRACING]

For a UM fan, you seem to have the lowdown on OSU an awful lot.

My cousin down south is connected and he gives me the lowdown.

[Don Unverferth]

From the Dispatch blog. . .

Seems like really good news. Hopefully this was a wake-up call for him.


Berry sent to diversion program
Freshman running back Jaamal Berry will have his drug-possession charges dropped, provided he completes a six-month diversion program.
This was decided Friday at a hearing in Miami, his hometown. Berry was arrested there June 11 and charged with felony possession of marijuana. The charge later was reduced to a misdemeanor, which allowed him to suit up for the Buckeyes (students charged with a felony cannot play sports while the charge is pending).
Now, he won't have a blot on his legal record at all, provided he completes the program. I'm awaiting details of how he can complete the program while living out of state. Hopefully, I can include that in tomorrow's Dispatch.

[byebyelloyd]

If one is not an eye witness, then that one is a false witness, but for argument's sake if it was a UM player I would do it only if it bothered you, Ole Buddy.;)

hence, my constant and accurate stupid fucking pussy comment. your opinions are about as productive as obama's administration.

[Mike Furley]

From the Dispatch blog. . .

Seems like really good news. Hopefully this was a wake-up call for him.


Berry sent to diversion program
Freshman running back Jaamal Berry will have his drug-possession charges dropped, provided he completes a six-month diversion program.
This was decided Friday at a hearing in Miami, his hometown. Berry was arrested there June 11 and charged with felony possession of marijuana. The charge later was reduced to a misdemeanor, which allowed him to suit up for the Buckeyes (students charged with a felony cannot play sports while the charge is pending).
Now, he won't have a blot on his legal record at all, provided he completes the program. I'm awaiting details of how he can complete the program while living out of state. Hopefully, I can include that in tomorrow's Dispatch.



I'm all for 2nd chances but I don't think Berry should be eligible to play in games this year. If responsible adults think he would be better served being in a team setting with a regimented schedule to keep him on the straight and narrow, then fine.....he can be redshirted.

Allowing Berry to play sends a terrible message in my opinion.

I also wonder if the average 18 year old busted with a felonius amount of illegal drugs typically gets his charges reduced to a misdemeanor and then allowed the opportunity to have them dropped altogether by completing an online "diversionary" program. Somehow I don't think that is the normal case.

Perhaps it is, or perhaps he got special treatment because he is star athlete - or maybe state governments are so broke nowadays they do this because it is cheaper than warehousing his ass for 18 months.

I said on a different thread that I didn't think Turner should suit up this year for Michigan because of his struggle to pass the OGT after failing numerous prior attempts. The reason I gave then was that I felt he should concentrate his efforts on school (and acclimating to being away from home as a freshman) instead of being thrust into the challenging waters of a Michigan education.

In Berry's case, I don't know about his academics, but he clearly has difficulty in making good choices. He too will be a freshman away from home this season. He would be better served starting school with a good grades and establishing a track record of doing the right things than by doing all of that while having the pressure of carrying the ball a hundred plus times.

I realize places like Ohio State and Michigan are big time football schools - but they are schools first. These aren't professional athletes. It bothers me that the academic guardians will get all high & mighty about academics for the other tens of thousands of students, but for athletically talented students they are nowhere to be found.

At some point, the school officials, coaches, communities, and fans need to step back and put things in their proper perspective. This is completely out of whack.

[1OSUNUT]

I think he should have a suspension of some kind - not a full season. The kid got in trouble at home. Now he is away from that atmosphere and will be around a more positive situation. I happen to think that a player has less of a chance to get into trouble when he is on the squad and playing then he does away from the team. Special treatment for the star athlete is nothing new. It has happened for decades. Do I like that fact that they play by a different set of rules - No. This trend starts at the high school level when kids seem to get phantom grades so that they can play - yet do horrible on their SAT's.

Berry will and should have to go through some kind of diversion program. I would also like to see drug testing and some kind of monitoring take place for awhile. He does deserve a second chance but he should also get more then a slap on the wrist.

[The Michigan Man]

I think he should have a suspension of some kind - not a full season. The kid got in trouble at home. Now he is away from that atmosphere and will be around a more positive situation. I happen to think that a player has less of a chance to get into trouble when he is on the squad and playing then he does away from the team. Special treatment for the star athlete is nothing new. It has happened for decades. Do I like that fact that they play by a different set of rules - No. This trend starts at the high school level when kids seem to get phantom grades so that they can play - yet do horrible on their SAT's.

Berry will and should have to go through some kind of diversion program. I would also like to see drug testing and some kind of monitoring take place for awhile. He does deserve a second chance but he should also get more then a slap on the wrist.

Yes, get him to Columbus as fast as possible, where tUOS players never get in trouble...

[Wolvrin704]

I think he should have a suspension of some kind - not a full season. The kid got in trouble at home. Now he is away from that atmosphere and will be around a more positive situation. I happen to think that a player has less of a chance to get into trouble when he is on the squad and playing then he does away from the team. Special treatment for the star athlete is nothing new. It has happened for decades. Do I like that fact that they play by a different set of rules - No. This trend starts at the high school level when kids seem to get phantom grades so that they can play - yet do horrible on their SAT's.

Berry will and should have to go through some kind of diversion program. I would also like to see drug testing and some kind of monitoring take place for awhile. He does deserve a second chance but he should also get more then a slap on the wrist.

Being away from home and at Columbus will not stop this behavior in the least. You should know better than that.

Oh and the star treatment starts well before high school now. You wouldn't believe the parental level of competition as soon as kids start playing in any sport.

[1OSUNUT]

You can only hope. I think some things are going to happen no matter where you put a kid. In the end the kid has to make the correct choice between what is right and wrong. It looks like he got a pass on this one - but if it happens again, drop the hammer.

[rickyleach]

YAH RIGHT , your talkin hammmerless tressy he is harmless..

[Bossgobbler23]

Adults make mistakes, kids make more. I hate to see any 18 year old kid ruin his education opportunity by making a mistake. He should get another chance to move forward and do the right thing.