Okay..time for a new thread

[deltguy2]

I want to hear some opinions on this topic, I am sure it has been discussed before, but there have not been any new threads as of late so I figured I would start one up.

The question is.....

If Tate does not start game 1, how long do you think it will take before Rich inserts him into the starting lineup. Or, does everyone think he is the starter from day 1? Does Rich let him run the full playbook, 75% or 50% of it? How long does it take him to get fully up to speed in the speed of the college game to the point where he is throwing the ball 15 times per game and running the ball 5-7 times per game with the read-option? How many TD's vs. INT's will he throw his freshman year?

[Wolvrin704]

I would love to discuss this topic thoroughly but most anything I have to say is conjecture as I don't know how he is doing in practice or how well he is learning the playbook. My guess is he learns at least as much as the guys did last year, if he is as good as advertised he may learn a bit more. But more than anything he brings to the table better accuracy and arm strength which alone will make a difference.

Will he be the starter from day 1? I'd say the odds are he will be but even if he is not he'll get play time right outta the gate at some point in game 1. I'd be willing to bet he is the starter by the time Big 10 season starts up.

[MICHDAD1]

I want to hear some opinions on this topic, I am sure it has been discussed before, but there have not been any new threads as of late so I figured I would start one up.

The question is.....

If Tate does not start game 1, how long do you think it will take before Rich inserts him into the starting lineup. Or, does everyone think he is the starter from day 1? Does Rich let him run the full playbook, 75% or 50% of it? How long does it take him to get fully up to speed in the speed of the college game to the point where he is throwing the ball 15 times per game and running the ball 5-7 times per game with the read-option? How many TD's vs. INT's will he throw his freshman year?

If RR starts Sheridan or even plays that Rocket football star I will choke my dog.

First off I think Tate will start. I believe Tate is far more experienced than most people would give a freshman QB credit. It won't take him too long to get acclimated to the game. I believe he has a natural inner ability to step up/in and lead. He will throw between 17-20 times/game and run at least 10 times/game. This comes from my study of WVU offense and PW. Tate is a very smart player and I would surmise that he already knows the playbook fully. My only concern would be that if Tate gets injured do we have a capable backup other than Sheridan to step in and take the lead. DRob may be able, but not quite sure.

[Sten Carlson]

I want to hear some opinions on this topic, I am sure it has been discussed before, but there have not been any new threads as of late so I figured I would start one up.

The question is.....

If Tate does not start game 1, how long do you think it will take before Rich inserts him into the starting lineup. Or, does everyone think he is the starter from day 1? Does Rich let him run the full playbook, 75% or 50% of it? How long does it take him to get fully up to speed in the speed of the college game to the point where he is throwing the ball 15 times per game and running the ball 5-7 times per game with the read-option? How many TD's vs. INT's will he throw his freshman year?

I think that Tate will start game #1.

If last year is any indication of how RR chooses his QB week in an week out, I think there is no doubt that Tate should be performing better in practice that Sheridan. Personally, I think the biggest competition is going to come from Robinson -- it all depends upon how well they learn the offense. I have nothing against Nick, but I just don't think he's going to be able to out shine either QB enough to regain the starting spot. I think that Tate already plays faster than Sheridan ever could, even before taking snap in practice.

That being said, I'd suspect that due to the Tate's head start in being in Ann Arbor, he may know the play book better than DRob. I think that adds a great deal of weight to my suspicion that Tate is going to start -- but, I think that he's going to get a core group of plays, and he's going to be expected to execute them flawlessly before he gets more. A lot depends upon the surrounding cast, but I suspect that Tate will shine and will be given most of the playbook by the end of the season.

I think they'll have him throw more than he'll run, but I think the runs that he makes are going to be killers, whether improvised, read, or call. As we all saw from the Wisconsin and Penn State games last year, even a lumbering QB can gash the opposition if they fail to account for the QB. Maybe they won't with a QB that can run, but that is the beauty of the read-option -- miss one assignment, and the QB will gash you. I think that the pass is Tate's obvious strength, and with Minor in the back field he's got a nice option for a hand off or a quick dump into the flat.

I've said this several times but I would love to see RR use a two QB set in which he has BOTH DRob and Tate in the backfield -- I think it would totally befuddle opposing DCs and players, especially if DRob can throw a bit.

[1OSUNUT]

I don't think RR has the time to wait for a guy to develope on the field. He has to start the guy who gives him the best chance to win - period. After the year he had last year not all but some of the wolfs are out. I'm not saying his job is on the line this year by no means - but he has to beat the teams Michigan should beat. He cannot aford to lose to any of the creampuffs Michigan has to play early on. If Michigan loses to ND but is competitive - that is OK. If the kids win some early games then their confidence should transfer to good play on the field. But if they lose one of the early games the loses could pile up. The game should slow down some for Sheridan this year and that might give him the edge. Most QB's make the biggest improvement between years one and two.

[amazinblue]

I think that Tate will start game #1.

I think that the pass is Tate's obvious strength, and with Minor in the back field he's got a nice option for a hand off or a quick dump into the flat.

I believe Tate gets the nod. He's going to have as much time with the team as a true freshman can have. It doesn't matter "how much" of the playbook he has knowledge of - (I'd be surprised if it's 50% - since, I assume the playbook is rather deep) - but, I'd like to see very solid execution for the part of the playbook that is called.

With the depth at RB, and the "relative fragileness and importance" of the QB position in the spread, I would hope that the balance is 3 to 1 - pass to run, for Tate. And that the slot, WR's, and RB's are really an integral part of the offense this season.

[tpilews]

I believe Tate gets the nod. He's going to have as much time with the team as a true freshman can have. It doesn't matter "how much" of the playbook he has knowledge of - (I'd be surprised if it's 50% - since, I assume the playbook is rather deep) - but, I'd like to see very solid execution for the part of the playbook that is called.

With the depth at RB, and the "relative fragileness and importance" of the QB position in the spread, I would hope that the balance is 3 to 1 - pass to run, for Tate. And that the slot, WR's, and RB's are really an integral part of the offense this season.

Yes, what you said. I agree with it all. Very nice sir.

[bluefan]

Unless Sheridan is a billion times better than he was last year it's gotta be Tate.

[mgoblue1]

One would think that Tate would have to be the starter, the only thing Sheridan has on him is the game experience at this level and the familiarity with the offense. If Sheridan starts it's because RR doesn't feel just right about starting Tate, but there is no doubt that he will be worked in in game 1 and it will happen quickly. Tate, when in at QB, will run as much of the playbook as RR is comfortable with him running, and I would think that they will try to have as much success running the ball and playing field position until things get firing on all cylinders, taking that much more pressure off of a true freshman quarterback.

[LUKEBLUEINOHIO]

This is my first post everybody so take it easy on me! I truthfully want to see Sheridan (to see his progression), Tate (for obvious reasons) and MR. Robinson (sick elusiveness and patience). True game speed will be the key, whoever cracks first opens the door for the next guy.

[MICHDAD1]

This is my first post everybody so take it easy on me! I truthfully want to see Sheridan (to see his progression), Tate (for obvious reasons) and MR. Robinson (sick elusiveness and patience). True game speed will be the key, whoever cracks first opens the door for the next guy.

Welcome to the board Luke. I can't help but to respond Luke. No offense. Sheridan needs to be decommissioned or at the least hold a clipboard for RR. In other words give up his scholly for someone that can contribute.

[Buzz]

Welcome to the board Luke. I can't help but to respond Luke. No offense. Sheridan needs to be decommissioned or at the least hold a clipboard for RR. In other words give up his scholly for someone that can contribute.

Last year Sheridan did the best did could, and I think he might see some playing time this year. But I definitely agree with you, MichDad1.

[LUKEBLUEINOHIO]

None taken MICHDAD, I understand your point but he was all we had besides that OTHER qb. He deserves his shot only to eventually lose it to the young and upcoming studs. But our future is bright and Meeeeechigan will be a top tier again!

[Wolvrin704]

None taken MICHDAD, I understand your point but he was all we had besides that OTHER qb. He deserves his shot only to eventually lose it to the young and upcoming studs. But our future is bright and Meeeeechigan will be a top tier again!

I don't really want to see much of Sheridan either but I wouldn't blame RR for starting him in the first game.

Like your attitude about UM being back on top where you belong. I like you already, but watch out for the trolls they do bite.

[ironhide]

I have been in touch with a couple of them. Tate is shining in practice, he is very tough to corral, moves like Jake the Snake Plummer. He is also UNCANNY with the accuracy. He just pinpoints the short throws, gets players the ball in stride. In short, he is very dangerous right now.
The biggest point here is the accuracy issue. This kid throws darts, and that is something we have missed recently!

[Sten Carlson]

I have been in touch with a couple of them. Tate is shining in practice, he is very tough to corral, moves like Jake the Snake Plummer. He is also UNCANNY with the accuracy. He just pinpoints the short throws, gets players the ball in stride. In short, he is very dangerous right now.
The biggest point here is the accuracy issue. This kid throws darts, and that is something we have missed recently!

That is definitely what I want to hear!

Hit those backs and slot receivers in stride, in space, very dangerous and almost impossible to defend!

Go Blue!

[bighousemike84]

I still tend to believe that Sheridan will be the starter for the Western Michigan game. We all know that RR prefers to breed better competition in practice by always having an open roster so its fairly obvious that all three Qbs will play but with the experience in game that Sheridan has I see him starting the first game with Forcier coming in and out of the game to change things up and get him some PT. No doubt by the end of the season Forcier will be the starter but I really think RR likes the experience that Sheridan brings to the table

[1OSUNUT]

He is playing against your stinking defense. TP looks great throwing the ball in practice as well. How will he throw when he is getting blitzed, hit and chased ? Plus how will he react after he throws a big pick or turns the ball over ? You guys are in for a very rude awakening.:D

[bighousemike84]

Actually nut I think you will be in for a rude awakening

[MICHDAD1]

He is playing against your stinking defense. TP looks great throwing the ball in practice as well. How will he throw when he is getting blitzed, hit and chased ? Plus how will he react after he throws a big pick or turns the ball over ? You guys are in for a very rude awakening.:D

TP has never looked good throwing the ball. LMAO.. Maybe running.