Good Analysis of Ohio State 09

[bighousemike84]

While Varsity Blue is a Michigan blog the guys actually do a pretty good job of analyzing each of Michigans opponents for the upcoming season. Today happened to be the Ohio State analysis.

http://www.umvarsityblue.com/

Its hard not to agree with the assessment. Defensively UOS looks to maintain a steady dominance. With a strong core on the Dline and talented and experienced DBs the defense should do fine. The offense on the other hand is not that easy. Pryor CANNOT get hurt! If he does then the suckeyes are gonna need that defense cause their wont be much of an offense.

[1OSUNUT]

Not bad. I think the same could be said for every team in the nation. How good would Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Notre Dame,etc be if the QB went down. I think what happened to Oregon (Dennis Dixon) two years ago proved that. I agree TP cannot get hurt - that is a no brainer. Tate cannot get hurt either.

RB - Berry will be with the team for all the practices and will have to work hard to clear his name and get on JT's good side. If he does he could be special.

WR - Thomas, Stoneburner (hurt last year) and Carter will be big surprises. Thomas is a big kid that was a track star. He will be a star along with Carter for years to come. Posey is another one to watch.

Line - The Buckeyes had the #1 offensive line class in years two years ago. Adams and Brewster will be NFL players. Line should be vastly improved and they actually have depth for a change.

Defense

Line - Rock solid. They will be very good this year and great next year. Gibson is a legit NFL talent. He has emense speed but has to work on over running a play. The line has depth and incoming freshman Johnny Simon will be a instant upgrade. The kid had a NFL body in 10th grade. He will be impossible to keep on the sidelines.

LB - LOADED. You may not know the names yet - but you will. Homan is a Hawk clone with a great nose for the ball. Spitler is solid but might be the odd man out. Rolle, Hines, #1 rated Sabino (very good) and incoming #1freshman Bell will all push for starting spots. Moeller will be a solid roll player as well. As always the linebackers will be a strength.

DB - No sure fire high first rounder like in past years - but solid. Coleman and Russell have a nose for the ball and can both hit. Chekwa is the next good DB hat will draw the best WR the other team has. I really wanted Washington to return for another year but Nate Oliver might be the surprise here. He was a very good HS corner who will get worked over in practice to see if he can hang. Another solid unit.

Special Teams - Thomas, Small or the incoming Janette,PA freshman should fill the return rolls. Small is good PR and Thomas has the size and speed to be a good KR. Pettrey will be what you expect from a OSU kicker - rock solid. The punter needs some work but will have to be good if he wants to play. JT calls the punt the most important play in every game. As always OSU will have solid special teams but they will have to increase the return yards that have not been very good since Ginn left.

OVERALL - The Buckeyes have what seems to be two road blocks on the schedule this year USC and @Penn State. The Buckeyes will have a very good defense and should create more turnovers then they have the last two seasons. The key to the season will be how fast Pryor and the WR's can gel. It is a no brainer that TP will be a better passer then he was last year. He made some nice throws last year but also threw some lame ducks. I expect him to really be a special player that can dominate and change a game. The team will go as he goes. If TP is able to throw the ball then it should be easier to run with the trio of RB that Tressel will have at his disposal. The Bucks have a kicker that can put the ball threw the uprights on the road and that alone is huge. The USC game is very big for this program that has to prove once again that it can beat an elite team. They just cannot lose this night game at home to the invaders from the West Coast. If the Buckeyes beat the Trojans - look out. The Penn State game could be the game that decides the Big Ten and Im sure that stadium will be ready for Pryor. That is the game that worries me the most and that is the game TP really wants. That should be a great game.

[Mich97c]

Ohio State will lose 4 this year. Navy, USC, Penn State and Michigan. Depending on their bowl, they could lose that too. If Pryor insists on becoming a pocket passer instead of using his legs, it could be a long season for OSU.

[1OSUNUT]

Only two teams have ashot at beating Ohio State this year - Penn State and USC. Navy will have a long day running against our line and Michigan just plain blows. They have no defense, offensive line and the QB will be injured before they play OSU.

[Wolvrin704]

Only two teams have ashot at beating Ohio State this year - Penn State and USC. Navy will have a long day running against our line and Michigan just plain blows. They have no defense, offensive line and the QB will be injured before they play OSU.

Good thing we have 2 more QB's in the stable.

[1OSUNUT]

and if you have to use either one your going to be horrible. :D

[rickyleach]

my good analysis for osu in 2009 is jimmy tressel is still and always will be a pussy ,

[1OSUNUT]

and Michigan is his tampon.:D

[rickyleach]

And your tressels condom

[Wolvrin704]

and if you have to use either one your going to be horrible. :D

Not with Denard, he's just another TP only he's even faster.

[byebyelloyd]

Only two teams have ashot at beating Ohio State this year - Penn State and USC. Navy will have a long day running against our line and Michigan just plain blows. They have no defense, offensive line and the QB will be injured before they play OSU.

actually tate not only will play every game, pussy, but you finally get to see how a freshman QB passes accurately behind a superior to ohio state o-line to more experienced and all around better receivers and backs, aint that a bitch.

[Mike Furley]

While Varsity Blue is a Michigan blog the guys actually do a pretty good job of analyzing each of Michigans opponents for the upcoming season. Today happened to be the Ohio State analysis.

http://www.umvarsityblue.com/

Its hard not to agree with the assessment. Defensively UOS looks to maintain a steady dominance. With a strong core on the Dline and talented and experienced DBs the defense should do fine. The offense on the other hand is not that easy. Pryor CANNOT get hurt! If he does then the suckeyes are gonna need that defense cause their wont be much of an offense.



thanks for the link bighousemike84.

I agree with the assessment about the defense being the strength of the team. I actually think it will be better than last year's squad. When I think back to our 2002 team, we had a great D-Line that really set the tempo. This grouping is closer to that squad than any since then, though our DT's still give me some pause. I'm hoping Johnny Simon can help.

I think their ability to pressure the passer by themselves should make the LB's and DB's appear better. The 02 team had two four year starters at sefety and that will be the case again this year.

As for the offense, I think the question marks about Pryor's ability to deliver a good ball are serious. If there isn't a credible threat of a passing attack, then the OL won't be able to block all 11 guys that start the play "in the box". The OL should be improved from last year.

Special Teams will be solid. Pettrey and Buchanon will do just fine and our return game won't look any worse than last year.

Everyone pooh poohs the Buckeye offense as "they're screwed if Pryor gets hurt" by I actually think it might be improved (in the short term) if Bauserman took over - he can make all the throws and will keep a defense honest.

that's my take anyway.

[1OSUNUT]

I think people have really overlooked the Buckeye WR's. Thomas, Stoneburner, Small, Carter, Posey and Sazenbacher will be an actual upgrade over last year. Many of these kids are bigger and faster then anything we have had in Columbus for a very long time. TP did make some very nice throws last year - his bad throws just over shadowed them. If he can eliminate some of the bad throws and show the acuracy and velocity that he does in practice during the games - watch out. He is the best running QB in the nation and if he can just keep the defense some what honest he is going to be a beast. The defense is going to very good and I agree that they will be better then last year. I think the linebackers will be bigger and faster as well. Teams will find out real quick that Ohio State is very good and that the gap really has not closed.

[amazinblue]

I think people have really overlooked the Buckeye WR's. Thomas, Stoneburner, Small, Carter, Posey and Sazenbacher will be an actual upgrade over last year..

I think you're wrong - these receivers haven't been overlooked.

[RADRACING]

I'm so sick of hearing about OSU!

[Wolvrin704]

I'm so sick of hearing about OSU!

So you come in the OSU sub-forum?

[1OSUNUT]

I'm so sick of hearing about OSU!

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

[RADRACING]

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Great come back! Are you like 10 years old or so? You OSU NUTSACK.

[rickyleach]

Like anyone believes your sshiit rad... I dont think so , you and nut are probably at work playing with each others peter posting on this site...

[1OSUNUT]

Ricky -

I'm curious - have you every posted anything worth while on this site ? I cannot remember one intelligent post - of even an attempt. You and Michigan fans like you are the reason why I enjoy seeing you guys suck so much. I get great pleasure in watching the Woverines struggle.

[Wolvrin704]

Ricky -

I'm curious - have you every posted anything worth while on this site ? I cannot remember one intelligent post - of even an attempt. You and Michigan fans like you are the reason why I enjoy seeing you guys suck so much. I get great pleasure in watching the Woverines struggle.

Your spelling lately has been simply atrocious.

So because of a few Wolverine fans you have to hate on us all as well as our team? Get a grip you act like a redneck.

[RADRACING]

Like anyone believes your sshiit rad... I dont think so , you and nut are probably at work playing with each others peter posting on this site...

That was the most stupid statement ever! I'm not a dude for like the 1000th time, you ignorant fool.

[rickyleach]

rad i dont care what you say , you were both playing with your hanger , and as far as im concerned you can go fucc yourself...

[1OSUNUT]

Your spelling lately has been simply atrocious.


I have a splint on my hand and I sometimes hit the wrong or extra keys - I will try harder. My goal is to someday annoy you while using proper grammer.:)

[byebyelloyd]

I have a splint on my hand and I sometimes hit the wrong or extra keys - I will try harder. My goal is to someday annoy you while using proper grammer.:)

more pussy excuses. what, exactly, do you not have some bullshit excuse for. whah, ohio state was hurt, whah, too much time off, whah. what a little pussy.

[byebyelloyd]

Ricky -

I'm curious - have you every posted anything worth while on this site ? I cannot remember one intelligent post - of even an attempt. You and Michigan fans like you are the reason why I enjoy seeing you guys suck so much. I get great pleasure in watching the Woverines struggle.

yep, how do you think we felt all through the 70's, 80's, 90's and after ohio state loses this year, the next decade? it was great then and come november and the next 6-7 years, its back to business as usual. hope you have the past games taped, you're gong to need them.

[Wolvrin704]

I have a splint on my hand and I sometimes hit the wrong or extra keys - I will try harder. My goal is to someday annoy you while using proper grammer.:)

That I can't wait for! :D

As for your injury I think you just opened a can of worms. I think I'll look away. :eek:

[Don Unverferth]

Back on topic:

As for our defense, loved what JL did for us, a very cerebral player and he played his assignments well. However, we have guys that have played MLB well and can play the Cover 2 (3) required to stretch the MLB position in this defense. I think we have three kids that can fill in for Freeman.

I honestly believe we'll have more talent on the field this year we'll just be missing some exprience to start the season. By the end of the season this defense might actually scare Michigan into quitting football altogether.

[Mich97c]

Back on topic:

As for our defense, loved what JL did for us, a very cerebral player and he played his assignments well. However, we have guys that have played MLB well and can play the Cover 2 (3) required to stretch the MLB position in this defense. I think we have three kids that can fill in for Freeman.

I honestly believe we'll have more talent on the field this year we'll just be missing some exprience to start the season. By the end of the season this defense might actually scare Michigan into quitting football altogether.

You have no secondary and your D-line is overrated. They'll give you a false sense of security playing a very weak Big Ten but as always they'll lose big to any big name. After the beatdown USC and Navy will give you, perhaps you won't even show up to Ann Arbor.

[Don Unverferth]

You have no secondary and your D-line is overrated. They'll give you a false sense of security playing a very weak Big Ten but as always they'll lose big to any big name. After the beatdown USC and Navy will give you, perhaps you won't even show up to Ann Arbor.

USC returns 2 starters on Defense, I'd argue that they are overrated. BTW, 48-7 OSU over UM and UM goes 4-7 for the year. The suicide rate and diarrhea increase 75% in Ann Arbor to match their unemployment.

[Don Unverferth]

My prediction:


Sep. 5 Navy 12:00pm (Victory)
Good test for a young defense. Athleticism of OSU will prevail.
However, if a solid running and passing game isn't firmly established
throughout the game, our confidence will be too low to take on USC.

Sep. 12 USC 8:00pm (Victory)
Assuming we are confident with a thrashing of Navy and with a rockin shoe, the Bucks win this one. USC will not have an answer for Pryor. There is little doubt that the USC game will now go a long way in establishing how the rest of the season will play out.

Sep. 19 at Toledo 12:00pm (Victory)
The disparity in talent is obvious.

Sep. 26 Illinois TBA (Victory)
The Illini defensive front could prove interesting and their
offense should be clicking. Will the defense be able to stop Juice
from controlling the ball on an 11 minute drive in the 3rd & 4th
quarter? This game could go either way and should prove to be worth
the ticket price.

Oct. 3 at Indiana 7:00pm (Victory)
Toledo part II

Oct. 10 Wisconsin TBA (Victory)
If Terrelle can beat them the road, he should be able to beat
essentially the same team at home in the shoe. Defense must shut down
J. Clay's running attack.

Oct. 17 at Purdue TBA (Victory)
Toledo part III

Oct. 24 Minnesota 12:00pm (Victory)
Toledo part IV

Oct. 31 New Mexico St. TBA (Victory)
Toledo part V. What were these guys thinking about except a payout?

Nov. 7 at Penn State TBA (Loss)
Always a tough road game. Will TP beat the state he left behind? Yes.
Last year was an offensive game plan that makes every Buckeye fan
shutter like a cold chill on the back of your neck. However, JT has
opened the playbook up for much more mature TP.

Nov. 14 Iowa TBA (Victory)
Trap game however Ohio State will be riding high after pulling off a sneaker in Happy Valley. At home in the shoe, talent vs. talent, OSU should emerge victorious.

Nov. 21 at Michigan (Victory)
I will renounce my alumni-ship if we lose this game.


"Losers whine about giving their best, winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

[Mich97c]

My prediction:

Navy - OSU gets caught looking ahead and your highly regarded LB's prove they were on the sidelines last year for obvious reasons - they can't play assignment football. Navy in a upset

USC - McKnight and the veteran O-line for the Trojans run all over OSU's D just like they did last year. USC shows they reload on defense, along with Carroll’s complex blitz schemes and Pryor's desire to try and be a drop back passer leads to another embarrassment. USC 45 OSU 3

You should win the rest until

Penn State - Their D tees off on your weak O line.

Michigan - we win in rout 28-0.

OSU will play in the capital one bowl taking on Georgia, game is over at halftime as Tressel loses his cool and punches his own player in the face. Cooper is then rehired

[rickyleach]

great post except jim tressel is a spinless jellyfish that lets everyone else do his dirty work , he is gutless and a flat out liar, just give osu fans a few more big game loses and this town will turn on him quick, beating michigan with the way they have been is not holding much wieght these days, osu will lose to usc penn state michigan and thier bowl game 9 and 4 is about right , and jim tressel wont have anything to say ,just like always , maybe nutpuss should be the coach atleast you can say he isnt a ball/less prick like tressel...

[bluefan]

I don't know what's funnier: Dickdon's belief that uos will stay within 4 TDs of USC or the fact that he thinks they won't have an answer for TP. Newsflash, Seabiscuit, at USC every athlete is in the same class or higher in athletic skill as TP. At uos they just have TP - and he can't throw enough to make the USC D have to respect it. uos is going to get rolled as bad or worse than last year.

[The Michigan Man]

My prediction:

Sep. 12 USC 8:00pm (Victory)
Assuming we are confident with a thrashing of Navy and with a rockin shoe, the Bucks win this one. USC will not have an answer for Pryor. There is little doubt that the USC game will now go a long way in establishing how the rest of the season will play out.


Ohhhhh Willlbbbuuurrrr,

USC won't have an answer for Pryor? Based upon what, wishful thinking? Did you catch last year’s game? I see TP sitting on the bench alone after the game, crying tears of frustration.

[amazinblue]

Ohhhhh Willlbbbuuurrrr,

USC won't have an answer for Pryor? Based upon what, wishful thinking? Did you catch last year’s game? I see TP sitting on the bench alone after the game, crying tears of frustration.

MM,

I'm very disappointed with you. TP wasn't sitting on the bench alone after the USC game last year - I believe that was after the Penn State game. I'm not sure what happened after the USC game last year.

[Don Unverferth]

Ohhhhh Willlbbbuuurrrr,

USC won't have an answer for Pryor? Based upon what, wishful thinking? Did you catch last year’s game? I see TP sitting on the bench alone after the game, crying tears of frustration.

Hey Ugly. I did catch the game last year, we're not Michigan, most college football fans actually watch OSU football.

If you know anything about college football (actually I don't think you do) you know that the game last year doesn't mean squat this September. Maybe we'll watch 41 point underdog Stanford win @ USC or losses to stumbling Oregon State as reference lines to dominance. I also remember watching Vince Young draw up sand lot runs right and left and beating USC all by his lonesome self. TP will be doing the same thing this year.

[The Michigan Man]

MM,

I'm very disappointed with you. TP wasn't sitting on the bench alone after the USC game last year - I believe that was after the Penn State game. I'm not sure what happened after the USC game last year.

I know it was PSU! There will be numerous crying opportunities in this young man's career.

[Don Unverferth]

MM,

I'm very disappointed with you. TP wasn't sitting on the bench alone after the USC game last year - I believe that was after the Penn State game. I'm not sure what happened after the USC game last year.

Ugly was painting his toe nails again instead of actually watching the game.

[The Michigan Man]

Hey Ugly. I did catch the game last year. Unlike you I don't paint my toe nails while watching football games.

If you know anything about college football (actually I don't think you do) you know that the game last year doesn't mean squat this September. Maybe we'll watch 41 point underdog Stanford win @ USC or losses to stumbling Oregon State as reference lines to dominance. I also remember watching Vince Young draw up sand lot runs right and left and beating USC all by his lonesome self. TP will be doing the same thing this year.

Ohhhhh Wiillllbbuuurrr, you know that USC steps up and performs in the big games and gets bit in the ass on an occasional small game. What USC does against PAC 10 underdogs has no bearing on the massacre that they will inflict in Columbus on September.

As far as Vince Young's victory 4-5 years ago, Texas actually has a big game coach named Mack Brown, as tUOS learned the hard way in losing yet another BCS game in January. Brown makes adjustments, unlike Tressel who throws in the towel at half time.

Just because TP is black and can scramble doesn't mean he is the next Vince Young (the college version). TP was totally contained last year at USC, didn't score a single TD, and I don't see how this year will be any better. It may actually get worse, given all of the seniors on offense that tUOS lost.

[Mich97c]

[QUOTE=The Michigan Man;15522], unlike Tressel who throws in the towel at half time.

QUOTE]

That's a huge point. Once OSU gets punched in the mouth in big games they throw in the towel. They'll get down by 14 points and in the back of their minds they can't help but think of the beatdowns they've gotten. Even in USC's losses, they always fight until the end.

[Don Unverferth]

Ohhhhh Wiillllbbuuurrr, you know that USC steps up and performs in the big games and gets bit in the ass on an occasional small game. What USC does against PAC 10 underdogs has no bearing on the massacre that they will inflict in Columbus on September.

As far as Vince Young's victory 4-5 years ago, Texas actually has a big game coach named Mack Brown, as tUOS learned the hard way in losing yet another BCS game in January. Brown makes adjustments, unlike Tressel who throws in the towel at half time.

Just because TP is black and can scramble doesn't mean he is the next Vince Young (the college version). TP was totally contained last year at USC, didn't score a single TD, and I don't see how this year will be any better. It may actually get worse, given all of the seniors on offense that tUOS lost.

Hey Ugly, take a smart pill, please. Name me one high school kid in 2008 or any year, that came directly from playing a HS basketball state championship game, enrolled in a major CF program after spring workouts, didn't start the first two games of the season, then was handed the starting QB position against the best CF team in the country in their own back yard, had the entire college football world watching and looked like an All American.

And try and keep up Ugly. Were talking about 2009 for TP based on the differences we can clearly see from last year and spring ball this year and "projecting" his progress.

[Mich97c]

, then was handed the starting QB position against the best CF team in the country in their own back yard, had the entire college football world watching and looked like an All American.

.

You played Florida at the swamp? I don't remember that.

[bluefan]

The fuck?! What game you were you watching, Seabiscuit? All American? Holy shit you are one delusional motherf-er. You have officially surpassed Suck 1 and NUT as the most homer-assed, kool aid drinking, belligerent stupid shit spewer on this board.

[Don Unverferth]

The fuck?! What game you were you watching, Seabiscuit? All American? Holy shit you are one delusional motherf-er. You have officially surpassed Suck 1 and NUT as the most homer-assed, kool aid drinking, belligerent stupid shit spewer on this board.

Whoa. You just surpassed rickyleach as the most irritatingly silly poster on this board. The only thing going for you is that you don't leave the caps lock on half the time.

[bluefan]

Great reply. You calling anyone irritating or silly is the very definition of the pot calling the kettle black.
Why not come back with some proof to back up your (wait while I stop laughing) "All-American" game TP had against USC? You know, the one where uos didn't score a TD and lost 35-3. Unless you wrote it wrong and meant the game where TP made the opposing D look like a bunch of All-Americans.

[Don Unverferth]

Great reply. You calling anyone irritating or silly is the very definition of the pot calling the kettle black.
Why not come back with some proof to back up your (wait while I stop laughing) "All-American" game TP had against USC? You know, the one where uos didn't score a TD and lost 35-3. Unless you wrote it wrong and meant the game where TP made the opposing D look like a bunch of All-Americans.

Hmmmm...

It would definitely help if you read the quote that I was responding to. I was not implying that TP played like an All American.

[The Michigan Man]

Hey Ugly, take a smart pill, please. Name me one high school kid in 2008 or any year, that came directly from playing a HS basketball state championship game, enrolled in a major CF program after spring workouts, didn't start the first two games of the season, then was handed the starting QB position against the best CF team in the country in their own back yard, had the entire college football world watching and looked like an All American.

And try and keep up Ugly. Were talking about 2009 for TP based on the differences we can clearly see from last year and spring ball this year and "projecting" his progress.

Mahzeltoff,

Did you forget to eat your oats this morning?

What does TP's path to being a tUOS QB have to do with him getting his ass kicked by USC again? TP's offense at USC produced 3pts. Despite the conditions in which he entered the game, he should have been prepared, and he should have been able to lead at least 1 TD drive, especially in the 4th quarter when the USC starters were playing cornhole on the sidelines while the 4th string was in.

Yeah, go ahead and read a lot into spring ball - there are 118 other Div I QBs that looked spectacular while wearing the red jersey and playing against a vanilla defense at much less than full speed / contact.

[Wolvrin704]

Hmmmm...

It would definitely help if you read the quote that I was responding to. I was not implying that TP played like an All American.

You are delusional Don and have become just about the biggest homer on here.

You said....

looked like an All American

I don't know what game you were watching but he did NOT look like an All American against USC or any other team for that matter. He looked like a freshman much of the time.

Lets respond to this point by point.


Name me one high school kid in 2008 or any year, that came directly from playing a HS basketball state championship game, enrolled in a major CF program after spring workouts, didn't start the first two games of the season, then was handed the starting QB position against the best CF team in the country in their own back yard, had the entire college football world watching and looked like an All American.


1. You make it sound like TP went directly from basketball to college football to starting in the span of a short time. You do realize that it was 6 months, right?
2. He was not handed the starting game in the USC game. After the USC game JT told Boeckman and TP that TP would start taking snaps with the first team.


You keep putting the horse before the buggy and act like TP is the greatest college player ever and that no one has ever done what he has. TP may endup a great player but he is not there yet. I'm sure someone somewhere has done what he has but I won't be your stooge and spend countless hours trying to disprove your claim. Show us evidence that TP is the first one to ever win a HS basketball championship and then be a starting football player by the 4th game of the season.

For once I'd like to see the trolls start backing up their claims with actual evidence.

[Don Unverferth]

You are delusional Don and have become just about the biggest homer on here.

You said....


I don't know what game you were watching but he did NOT look like an All American against USC or any other team for that matter. He looked like a freshman much of the time.

Lets respond to this point by point.



1. You make it sound like TP went directly from basketball to college football to starting in the span of a short time. You do realize that it was 6 months, right?
2. He was not handed the starting game in the USC game. After the USC game JT told Boeckman and TP that TP would start taking snaps with the first team.


You keep putting the horse before the buggy and act like TP is the greatest college player ever and that no one has ever done what he has. TP may endup a great player but he is not there yet. I'm sure someone somewhere has done what he has but I won't be your stooge and spend countless hours trying to disprove your claim. Show us evidence that TP is the first one to ever win a HS basketball championship and then be a starting football player by the 4th game of the season.

For once I'd like to see the trolls start backing up their claims with actual evidence.

Why do I get the feeling that this entire board is uneducated as well as unemployed. I was responding to Ugly (MM) when he was ripping on TP's performance against USC. TP DID NOT play like an All American against USC. He started his first game as a true Frosh. What true frosh in his first game plays like an AA? TP did start the game, the game plan was to rotate both QB's.

[The Michigan Man]

You keep putting the horse before the buggy...

Hahahahahahahaaha....nice!

[Wolvrin704]

Why do I get the feeling that this entire board is uneducated as well as unemployed. I was responding to Ugly (MM) when he was ripping on TP's performance against USC. TP DID NOT play like an All American against USC. He started his first game as a true Frosh. What true frosh in his first game plays like an AA? TP did start the game, the game plan was to rotate both QB's.

I think most of us here are just as if not more educated than you. In the current economy I'm sure more than a few people on here are currently unemployed especially when you consider unemployment in Ohio and Michigan are over 10%. I for one am still gainfully employed.

Are you saying he started the game against USC? You might want to check again.
Again you are the one who said "then was handed the starting QB position against the best CF team in the country in their own back yard, had the entire college football world watching and looked like an All American"

You are the one who said he looked like an AA in the game, its right there. Yet now you say you were only replying to MM, so it was just an outrageous claim? Yet you make further arguements trying to back it up.

TP's stats vs USC...

7 comp
9 attempts
52 yds passing
15 yds long
0 TD's
11 rushing attempts (many were running for his life)
40 yds rushing

Certainly not AA stats here.

[Don Unverferth]

You are the one who said he looked like an AA in the game, its right there. Yet now you say you were only replying to MM, so it was just an outrageous claim? Yet you make further arguements trying to back it up.

TP's stats vs USC...

7 comp
9 attempts
52 yds passing
15 yds long
0 TD's
11 rushing attempts (many were running for his life)
40 yds rushing

Certainly not AA stats here.

I quit, no comprende. On to the next thread....

[bluefan]

I quit, no comprende. On to the next thread....

You definitely are still a dumbass but now that I read that post for the 20th time with your explanation I see what you were trying to say.

English is a pretty useful language and if you could just try to use it a little more clearly in the future that would be greeaaat. Mmm'kay? -Bill Lumberg

[Don Unverferth]

You definitely are still a dumbass but now that I read that post for the 20th time with your explanation I see what you were trying to say.

English is a pretty useful language and if you could just try to use it a little more clearly in the future that would be greeaaat. Mmm'kay? -Bill Lumberg

20th time is a charm. :rolleyes:

What you meant to say is, "now that I thoroughly read the post along with the quote, I know understand what you were saying."

[bluefan]

20th time is a charm. :rolleyes:

What you meant to say is, "now that I thoroughly read the post along with the quote, I know understand what you were saying."

I would probably spell it "now" instead of "know".

In regards to the rest; up until your explanation everyone thought you were claiming TP played like an AA vs USC.

[Don Unverferth]

I would probably spell it "now" instead of "know".

In regards to the rest; up until your explanation everyone thought you were claiming TP played like an AA vs USC.

Everyone? You mean yourself and Wolvrin704? And I don't think you want to get into a spelling/grammar debate.

[bluefan]

Everyone? You mean yourself and Wolvrin704? And I don't think you want to get into a spelling/grammar debate.

OK, I just finished wiping tears of mirth from my eyes, now I can type a response. You seriously just said that about the spelling and grammar?

[Don Unverferth]

OK, I just finished wiping tears of mirth from my eyes, now I can type a response. You seriously just said that about the spelling and grammar?

Yes I did. Show me a post of mine that resembles this immature, annoying, muddled, sorry excuse for a post:


The fuck?! What game you were you watching, Seabiscuit? All American? Holy shit you are one delusional motherf-er. You have officially surpassed Suck 1 and NUT as the most homer-assed, kool aid drinking, belligerent stupid shit spewer on this board.

[bluefan]

Yes I did. Show me a post of mine that resembles this immature, annoying, muddled, sorry excuse for a post:

Poor baby (or is it colt?). I fisked your ass on some sorry statement you made and now you're trying to hold spelling and grammar superiority over me? Did I hurt your feelings? Oh no. I said "ass" again. I guess you've got me now.

[Don Unverferth]

Poor baby (or is it colt?). I fisked your ass on some sorry statement you made and now you're trying to hold spelling and grammar superiority over me? Did I hurt your feelings? Oh no. I said "ass" again. I guess you've got me now.

Yes i do rickyleach. :D

[Plus 1]

Ohio State will lose 4 this year. Navy, USC, Penn State and Michigan. Depending on their bowl, they could lose that too. If Pryor insists on becoming a pocket passer instead of using his legs, it could be a long season for OSU.


Hey, who ever takes care of this guy, it's time for his pills and a nap. He's hullucinating again. Navy and Michigan?????????????????:D:D:D

[gator]

Hey, who ever takes care of this guy, it's time for his pills and a nap. He's hullucinating again. Navy and Michigan?????????????????:D:D:D

Plus1, I haven't seen much of you lately. Where the heck you been?

[Plus 1]

Plus1, I haven't seen much of you lately. Where the heck you been?


Hello gator. I have'nt had much time this summer to mess with these Michigan Cretans. I've been busy rewinding & rerunning up to the last 16 seconds of the Texas game and trying to find out what happened to our safety. I think he was mugged and drug out of the stadium. The Texas fans wanted to get back at us for the buttkickin' we gave em at Austin in 06. I never liked the "prevent defence" but I gained a modicum of respect for it after that Fiesta Bowl "Fiasco". It has some credence with only 16 seconds left.

How are you and Urban doing? I see Urban has been busy Pi$$ing off the SEC according to the voting for best QB down there. Snead???
Did Superman encounter some kryptonite or what?:eek:



http://blogs.ajc.com/barnhart-college-football/2009/07/17/so-who-didnt-vote-for-tebow/?cxntfid=blogs_barnhart_college_football


This is not sarcasm, I'm just curious. Are you a Gator fan that's just bored, or are you a Michigan fan outsourced to the Florida workforce? Stranded in the "Swamp" as it were?:confused:

[gator]

Hello gator. I have'nt had much time this summer to mess with these Michigan Cretans. I've been busy rewinding & rerunning up to the last 16 seconds of the Texas game and trying to find out what happened to our safety. I think he was mugged and drug out of the stadium. The Texas fans wanted to get back at us for the buttkickin' we gave em at Austin in 06. I never liked the "prevent defence" but I gained a modicum of respect for it after that Fiesta Bowl "Fiasco". It has some credence with only 16 seconds left.

How are you and Urban doing? I see Urban has been busy Pi$$ing off the SEC according to the voting for best QB down there. Snead???
Did Superman encounter some kryptonite or what?:eek:



http://blogs.ajc.com/barnhart-college-football/2009/07/17/so-who-didnt-vote-for-tebow/?cxntfid=blogs_barnhart_college_football


This is not sarcasm, I'm just curious. Are you a Gator fan that's just bored, or are you a Michigan fan outsourced to the Florida workforce? Stranded in the "Swamp" as it were?:confused:

I'm a hardcore gator fan. It's the gators and then nobody else. Way off in the distance we can talk about teams that I'll pull for if they aren't playing my guys. I kind of like LSU. I've always like Michigan (Sorry, but I've never pulled for OSU in "The Game"). I have some interest in SC because of Spurrier. I like to watch FSU, UT, UGA, and Miami loose any chance that I can. Other than that it's kind of a game to game basis. I guess I got pulled to this site (actually SackCarr.com) after the ASU loss. There just seemed to be a similarity between the UM and FL programs. FL had just gone through a very similar situation with Zook. He was not so bad (until that MSU loss) as to call for his head, but he was a perennial underachiever. We had a "FireRonZook" site similar to the SackCarr one. Once I got talking to people here, I just kind of got hooked. It's also nice to try to stay grounded and get out of all the hype that surrounds the Gators around here. My opinion seems to be valued here (at least by some) and I can appreciate a prespective that I can't get down here. What's your excuse? Just trying to rile up some Wolverines?:)

[Plus 1]

I'm a hardcore gator fan. It's the gators and then nobody else. Way off in the distance we can talk about teams that I'll pull for if they aren't playing my guys. I kind of like LSU. I've always like Michigan (Sorry, but I've never pulled for OSU in "The Game"). I have some interest in SC because of Spurrier. I like to watch FSU, UT, UGA, and Miami loose any chance that I can. Other than that it's kind of a game to game basis. I guess I got pulled to this site (actually SackCarr.com) after the ASU loss. There just seemed to be a similarity between the UM and FL programs. FL had just gone through a very similar situation with Zook. He was not so bad (until that MSU loss) as to call for his head, but he was a perennial underachiever. We had a "FireRonZook" site similar to the SackCarr one. Once I got talking to people here, I just kind of got hooked. It's also nice to try to stay grounded and get out of all the hype that surrounds the Gators around here. My opinion seems to be valued here (at least by some) and I can appreciate a prespective that I can't get down here. What's your excuse? Just trying to rile up some Wolverines?:)


Yes, practically since Sack Carr started up. Soon after. That's part of what makes it the "Greatest Rivalry in all of Sports Period"!!! :D

[byebyelloyd]

Hey, who ever takes care of this guy, it's time for his pills and a nap. He's hullucinating again. Navy and Michigan?????????????????:D:D:D

i like your signature pussy, but since when has ohio state led any statistical category of any importance over michigan? wins, no, percentage, no, championships, not even close, head to head, thats not it, history, tradition, players, no i don't have time to list everything but nice try pussy.

[Plus 1]

i like your signature pussy, but since when has ohio state led any statistical category of any importance over michigan? wins, no, percentage, no, championships, not even close, head to head, thats not it, history, tradition, players, no i don't have time to list everything but nice try pussy.

Well little girl, does the Big Ten count? After all this is the conference Michigan plays in!!! Just so you'll know that I did'nt make any false claims here's a link for you, since my signature got to you:



http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2008/10/alltime_big_ten_standings_and.html


At the current rate OSU is winning at and UM is losing at that overall stats gap is closing all the time. You better hope that UM does'nt go into the slump that Miami, Fl, Nebraska, Florida St, Notre Dame and others are experiencing. After this year if things don't improve we can add Michigan to that list.. so you better start beating the App Sts and Toledos of the world or your lead that was set in the late 1800's and early 1900's will disappear.:eek:

[byebyelloyd]

Well little girl, does the Big Ten count? After all this is the conference Michigan plays in!!! Just so you'll know that I did'nt make any false claims here's a link for you, since my signature got to you:



http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2008/10/alltime_big_ten_standings_and.html


At the current rate OSU is winning at and UM is losing at that overall stats gap is closing all the time. You better hope that UM does'nt go into the slump that Miami, Fl, Nebraska, Florida St, Notre Dame and others are experiencing. After this year if things don't improve we can add Michigan to that list.. so you better start beating the App Sts and Toledos of the world or your lead that was set in the late 1800's and early 1900's will disappear.:eek:

imagine that pussy, an ohio paper trying anything to act as if ohio state leads michigan in anything. just like you being a fan since 2002, you like to believe a few osu wins equals decades and decades of michigan dominance. it doesn't work that way. nice try bitch.

[Plus 1]

imagine that pussy, an ohio paper trying anything to act as if ohio state leads michigan in anything. just like you being a fan since 2002, you like to believe a few osu wins equals decades and decades of michigan dominance. it doesn't work that way. nice try bitch.



Your own Detroit FP and AA news haven't been that favorable to you either lately, like the last 9 years.

2002???? I have been a devoted Buckeye fan since late 50's you little thwerp.
I watched most of Woody's 28 years of dominance over Michigan, only losing 11 times to UM in 28 years, and Earle Bruce's winning record over UM. I watched the famous "10 Years War" of Woody and BO "Live and in color."
2 of Woody's 5 NCs and 4 of the 7 Heisman Trophy winners. Plus I'm going to enjoy watching Tressel break most the OSU coaching records.


Birdbrainbyebyeloyd---What a nitwit!!!!:eek:

[Plus 1]

My prediction:

Navy - OSU gets caught looking ahead and your highly regarded LB's prove they were on the sidelines last year for obvious reasons - they can't play assignment football. Navy in a upset

USC - McKnight and the veteran O-line for the Trojans run all over OSU's D just like they did last year. USC shows they reload on defense, along with Carroll’s complex blitz schemes and Pryor's desire to try and be a drop back passer leads to another embarrassment. USC 45 OSU 3

You should win the rest until

Penn State - Their D tees off on your weak O line.

Michigan - we win in rout 28-0.

OSU will play in the capital one bowl taking on Georgia, game is over at halftime as Tressel loses his cool and punches his own player in the face. Cooper is then rehired


......and meanwhile the frustration continues to grow in Ann Arbor!!!, causing fans to hallucinate and talk out of their heads as usual......stay turned.:eek:

[byebyelloyd]

......and meanwhile the frustration continues to grow in Ann Arbor!!!, causing fans to hallucinate and talk out of their heads as usual......stay turned.:eek:

truth hurts huh pussy? keep working on that grammar too. you'll be typing at a 3rd grade level in no time.

[byebyelloyd]

Your own Detroit FP and AA news haven't been that favorable to you either lately, like the last 9 years.

2002???? I have been a devoted Buckeye fan since late 50's you little thwerp.
I watched most of Woody's 28 years of dominance over Michigan, only losing 11 times to UM in 28 years, and Earle Bruce's winning record over UM. I watched the famous "10 Years War" of Woody and BO "Live and in color."
2 of Woody's 5 NCs and 4 of the 7 Heisman Trophy winners. Plus I'm going to enjoy watching Tressel break most the OSU coaching records.


Birdbrainbyebyeloyd---What a nitwit!!!!:eek:

reading a book on osu history doesn't make you a fan for 50 years. not one of you fucking pussies bothered to watch a game until the fiesta bowl after the 2002 season. keep lying bitch, no ones buying it.

[1OSUNUT]

Will you change your screen name to byebyeRR after this season ? :)

[amazinblue]

Will you change your screen name to byebyeRR after this season ? :)

Why would he want to do that after the turnaround that's going to happen this year. Maybe you'll want to change yours to byebyeJT, but - there might be some copyright infringements if you do.

[NCBLUE]

If Tressel continues to struggle on the Big Stage and fails to make mid-game adjustments will the oSU fans start to turn on him or will having a winning record against Michigan be enough ?

[amazinblue]

If Tressel continues to struggle on the Big Stage and fails to make mid-game adjustments will the oSU fans start to turn on him or will having a winning record against Michigan be enough ?

If the experience Cooper had there provides any insight - a .500 record against Michigan will provide job security. The good news for Michigan is - JT's got a head start, so - we can probably have a little string of our own before JT approaches .500 against us.

However, I'm speaking as a Michigan fan. I'm sure that Nut and others will support JT to the end, and insist that Tressel / Buckeyes have back to back to back NC's in their immediate future - since, after all, this year's squad is much better than last year's predicted MNC team...

[Wolvrin704]

Win or lose JT will likely be gone after 2012 anyways.

[byebyelloyd]

Will you change your screen name to byebyeRR after this season ? :)

why. i know he won't lose to ohio state for at least 4 years, 5 most likely. ohio state may win one after that, but rodriguez is a much better coach than tressel and has his players in place already in only season 2. hope your next coach has the intelligence to recruit better talent, losing to michigan for a while is going to make your life meaningless again, pussy.

[1OSUNUT]

What makes RR a better coach - what has he ever won ? In the biggest game of his life - he crapped out, at home. Do you think WVU would of went into the Superdome and beat that LSU team in it's backyard ?

I have long had an issue with our OC and DC. If the Buckeyes struggle this year with an elite team or a SEC squad - that is where the change will and should take place. Tressel has given these guys NFL caliber talent to work with and the results should of been better. I would like to see more of a SEC style of defense in Columbus - we have the players to do it. I want to see what they come up with on offense this year with Beanie gone. We need to be able to run a wide open offense as well as a grind it out style. If we look sluggish and stale this year - the fans and alumni will want some changes. Tressel will be in Columbus as long as he wants - which is a very long time.

[amazinblue]

What makes RR a better coach - what has he ever won ? In the biggest game of his life - he crapped out, at home. Do you think WVU would of went into the Superdome and beat that LSU team in it's backyard ?

I have long had an issue with our OC and DC. If the Buckeyes struggle this year with an elite team or a SEC squad - that is where the change will and should take place. Tressel has given these guys NFL caliber talent to work with and the results should of been better. I would like to see more of a SEC style of defense in Columbus - we have the players to do it. I want to see what they come up with on offense this year with Beanie gone. We need to be able to run a wide open offense as well as a grind it out style. If we look sluggish and stale this year - the fans and alumni will want some changes. Tressel will be in Columbus as long as he wants - which is a very long time.

Nut,

When did Pat White go down in the game against Pitt? Did he play all four quarters? Ohh.. I don't think so - a dislocated thumb in the second quarter. And, RR didn't have the depth at QB that he has - and apparently will have - at Michigan.

And, your crystal ball must be awfully clear. If WVU did play LSU, I'm pretty sure they would have put up a better fight than the Bucks did...

So, what are Heacock and Bollman doing? Based on what you've said - nothing new. How many times do you - Tressel - and the Buckeye faithful have to watch OSU struggle against superior talent before you figure out that doing the same things - faster - and with "top recruited talent" - will do nothing? Tell me, when did OSU last win big on the national stage? You talk about struggling against an "elite" or SEC team - well, I can't remember when OSU didn't struggle against an SEC team - and I think you're pretty close to "ofer" against elite teams since 2002 - unless, of course, you call that Charlie Weis / ND win in the Fiesta Bowl a win over an elite team.

Even Lloyd Carr realized he had a problem at the DC position and finally let go of Hermann. When's JT going to realize he has a problem with the coordinators.

Oh yeah - I forgot - you've just reloaded - no need to rebuild - you lost 20+ seniors - and the new talent is even better - the coaches are putting in even more creative schemes - the depth has never been better - the talent never as highly ranked or recruited. I can hardly wait to see it - oh, yeah - I will - against USC. Your squad, which you've predicted to go 12-0, is most likely on its way to the woodshed... Normally, I hate USC and the Pac 10 - but, this year, I think I might just have to root for them....

[Plus 1]

Win or lose JT will likely be gone after 2012 anyways.

You hope!!!!:eek:

[Plus 1]

reading a book on osu history doesn't make you a fan for 50 years. not one of you fucking pussies bothered to watch a game until the fiesta bowl after the 2002 season. keep lying bitch, no ones buying it.

I couldn't care less whether you buy it or not TWIT. Nothing could matter "LESS" in this world than your thoughts. Nothing could possibly be less important than your opinions!:eek:

[Wolvrin704]

You hope!!!!:eek:

I don't have to hope, I got that info from your very own Dispatch. In the article it says that JT has often said he would like to retire by age 60 which comes in 2012.And when he redid his contract he did not get it extended, only increased his pay.

[byebyelloyd]

I couldn't care less whether you buy it or not TWIT. Nothing could matter "LESS" in this world than your thoughts. Nothing could possibly be less important than your opinions!:eek:

your bullshit lies, delusional observations, and wishful thinking that ohio state is actually a good team are only three of the myriad of things less important than my opinion. i'll be here to point out several more to all you pussies when you fail to do so yourself.

edit: that TWIT comment really hurt, OUCH.

[Wolvrin704]

I couldn't care less whether you buy it or not TWIT. Nothing could matter "LESS" in this world than your thoughts. Nothing could possibly be less important than your opinions!:eek:

This just sums it all up. You guys come in here and argue and start fights left and right in here. But when it comes down to it you claim you don't care what WE think.

HELLO!!! UM fan website! If you don't care then what are you doing here other than just to be troublemakers and cause dissension?