Positive about our president

[Mike Furley]

I've been in a reflective mood since my vacation from last week. One of the things I reflected on was my desire not to be ginned up by others in their criticism of our President.

There is very little I agree with President Obama on, but philosophical disagreements over policy shouldn't by themself cause one to not respect the President. At least that's what I'm trying to adhere to. That being the case, I tried to come up with a list of things I admire about, respect, or agree with President Obama. Here's what I came up with:

1.) He's a tireless worker.

2.) He appears to be faithful to his wife and kids.

That's all I could come up with so far. Any others for you?

[zilla]

Is not a Cubs fan.

[Medic]

Single handidly keeping Phillip Morris in business

[Wolvrin704]

He's a sharp dresser.

He reads a teleprompter really well thus giving amazing speeches.

He unites Americans........those who oppose him vs those who support him.

[chriswebber]

Spends money very well, not effectively. Quality vs. Quantity

[Mike Furley]

He has a healthy looking physique.

[gator]

Is not a Cubs fan.

Our most ardent resident supporter and that's as deep as it gets, huh?

Going with #2 of Furley's (that's always good). In general, I would agree with #1, but I don't like that trait in him since most everything he does is to the detriment of the country (great he's getting us there faster).

Okay, 10 minutes here and I'm struggling.....If you talking in generalities as good traits - then he get's things done quickly (I guess that would be efficient). Unfortunately, he apparently doesn't think about the consequences of his actions beforehand, e.g., closing Gitmo without a plan, ramming a stimulus bill through without any real idea of its impact on employment or economic growth, soon we'll get Obamacare without even flinching at how much that might cost....yippie!!!!

Medic, as far as Phillip Morris, I agree that he certainly set them and the Federal government up for life. On the other hand, I got to give Obama credit for giving me help with something...he got me to give up tobacco. It wasn't anything he said or was hoping to accomplish; it was the simple fact that he raised taxes on it....and that flat pissed me off. The government is so much like the mafia - you're getting a service just fine one week, then bam! price goes up just because someone want a little bigger cut even though they aren't given you anything extra. I wasn't going to pay an extra $5/roll just to send Washington a check - fu$% them. Surely, the libs will say, "That's what this bill was meant to do." No, this bill was meant to be a cash cow for the Federal Governement, and ensure the survival of tobacco companies in America. To use some liberal lingo: it's a tax on the poor (and liberals love it because the poor are too dumb to realize it). The slight drop in tobacco users, which they will turn into national headlines, is a nice little side effect from a small portion of society that is tired of being extorted.

I'm going on my fourth day without a dip....cold turkey. I think the urges are starting to lessen...anyone got any experience with this? When does it get easier? Actually, it's been fairly easy for the most part (just a few strong cravings every now and then) - I guess the BIG thing is just finally making up your mind that you want to quit. It doesn't really help that I decided to give up boos at the same time (I want to lay off for 3 months, so I can get back into some form of physical fitness).

[Mike Furley]

i've been dipping for 17 years and have never been able to eclipse the 4 day barrier. A doctor told me nicotine leaves your body after 4 days so good luck w/ it now. I've tried sunflower seeds, chewing gum, fake dip, nicorette, other brands of dip, smoking, cold turkey, etc. none of it has worked for me.

[gator]

i've been dipping for 17 years and have never been able to eclipse the 4 day barrier. A doctor told me nicotine leaves your body after 4 days so good luck w/ it now. I've tried sunflower seeds, chewing gum, fake dip, nicorette, other brands of dip, smoking, cold turkey, etc. none of it has worked for me.

Well, glad to see a little support out there. I'm a .... ummmm .... 5 to 6 year dipper (had to think for a second). You know, I have a friend who used to smoke (I never smoked) and then he saw me dipping. I got him on that, and boy did we love us some snuff (I'm about a roll (5 not 10) every 2-3 days kind of guy). Then one day, he up and quit. I think he had some come to Jesus meeting with his dentist or something or he just got thinking about how bad it was for him. Whatever it was, he just quit. I didn't follow his lead at that time, but I asked him about how he stopped. He swore by the sunflower seeds, gum, and anything else he could chew on to take his mind off the habit. I personally think that still reinforces the habit someway because you are constantly putting things in your mouth, but he said that's how he quit. I don't think it would work for me, and I know for a fact that I get awfully sore lips and gums from chewing seeds because I will chew them non-stop all day. The thing that finally seemed to help me is a) really wanting to quit, and b) setting a goal or motivation that was worth the sacrifice. So for me, I knew past attempts at quitting were kind of half-assed....my heart wasn't in it. This time I used two things to help motivate me 1) being able to say I stuck it to the government by taking away my tax dollars and 2) using it as a surprise when I tell my wife I've been X days without a dip (she's wanted me to quit since....well, she got pissed when she found out that I dipped). I figure it will make a nice anniversary present next month. It also doesn't hurt that it's the good thing to do for my health in the long run, and I don't want to shorten my life when I have kids someday. Whatever motivation you chose, make it damn worthwhile and keep replaying it in your head when you get the urges. Also keep thinking....I've made it this far and I'm not going to mess it up now.

Most of the day is pretty uneventful, but there have been some awfully strong urges (especially after meals). At any rate, my motivation must be working for me because I've gotten this far and I just bought a new roll (which is sitting right beside me, unopened) before I decided to quit. I originally thought that it would be easier to quit without it around the house, but that never worked before b/c I would just go down to the store and buy it when I broke down. No, I figured there is dip availible out there in the real world, and you see it the next time you're at your favorite store or your long-time dippin buddy pulls it out right in front of you. I have lots of family and friends that dip, so I figured if I was going to whip it that I was going to have to do it with easy access.

P.S. If you happen to be wondering why I bought a roll instead of a single can right before I quit, the answer is simple.....I didn't think I would make it this far, and I didn't want to make another trip back to the store when I decided to give up on quitting.

Edit: What's your brand of poison? Mine's Grizzly Wintergreen Longcut, before that it was Skoal Longcut Straight

[Mike Furley]

kodiak wintergreen. 3 cans a week.

After meals is definately the worst temptation - especially greasy meals like pizza or burgers.

I started while I was working the graveyard shift at the grocery store to help keep me awake.

I agree that proper motivation or desire is necessary. I guess, if I'm being honest with myself, my enjoyment from dipping is stronger than my desire to quit.

I think the first 24hrs is definately the hardest.

[The Michigan Man]

Barry Hussein is a good public speaker, as long as the teleprompter is functioning.

[gator]

kodiak wintergreen. 3 cans a week.

After meals is definately the worst temptation - especially greasy meals like pizza or burgers.

I started while I was working the graveyard shift at the grocery store to help keep me awake.

I agree that proper motivation or desire is necessary. I guess, if I'm being honest with myself, my enjoyment from dipping is stronger than my desire to quit.

I think the first 24hrs is definately the hardest.

Whew! My brother-in-law just came over and we drank all night while he was dipping in front of me. oooOOOO the urge was there, but I turned it down flat every time (he's a real smart ass, making me look at it every time he put one in). I'm still dip free on my 5th day!!!!!! I'm done with it....I'm on to a healthier lifestyle. Just one more thing I thought about after my last post....when you buy that next can....just imagine that you're handing Barrack Hussein an extra dollar (personally) every time. Or if you buy it by the roll, an extra $5 or $6. My dislike (damn near hatred) of BHO helped me get off tobacco....maybe he is the saviour of the world after all.....Ha ha ha!

P.S. My friend who also quit says it takes about 2 weeks for the urges to go completely away. Nevertheless, after what I've gone through this week I am confident that I have finally licked it. Good luck to you if you choose to challenge its grip on you. Let me know if I can be of any support.

[The Michigan Man]

Whew! My brother-in-law just came over and we drank all night while he was dipping in front of me. oooOOOO the urge was there, but I turned it down flat every time (he's a real smart ass, making me look at it every time he put one in). I'm still dip free on my 5th day!!!!!! I'm done with it....I'm on to a healthier lifestyle. Just one more thing I thought about after my last post....when you buy that next can....just imagine that you're handing Barrack Hussein an extra dollar (personally) every time. Or if you buy it by the roll, an extra $5 or $6. My dislike (damn near hatred) of BHO helped me get off tobacco....maybe he is the saviour of the world after all.....Ha ha ha!

P.S. My friend who also quit says it takes about 2 weeks for the urges to go completely away. Nevertheless, after what I've gone through this week I am confident that I have finally licked it. Good luck to you if you choose to challenge its grip on you. Let me know if I can be of any support.

Dipping is one nasty habit! I knew a guy back in the military who never spit, and would sometimes sleep over night with a dip in his mouth. He would pull down his bottom lip and the entire inside was a corpse-white color - I'm sure the ladies found that hot.

I used to dip here and there in the service, but usually only in the field - a favorite was to put a shot of Jack in the can and let it sit for a few days, it packed a nice buzz! Good luck in kicking the habit, you are saving yourself $$ and health consequences in the future.

[byebyelloyd]

I've been in a reflective mood since my vacation from last week. One of the things I reflected on was my desire not to be ginned up by others in their criticism of our President.

There is very little I agree with President Obama on, but philosophical disagreements over policy shouldn't by themself cause one to not respect the President. At least that's what I'm trying to adhere to. That being the case, I tried to come up with a list of things I admire about, respect, or agree with President Obama. Here's what I came up with:

1.) He's a tireless worker.

2.) He appears to be faithful to his wife and kids.

That's all I could come up with so far. Any others for you?

have to get back to you on this one.

[byebyelloyd]

Barry Hussein is a good public speaker, as long as the teleprompter is functioning.

ever compared his speaking with no teleprompter with that of who the nazi dems claim was the most moronic president in history, bush? eerily similar.

[Medic]

Can we desist with calling democrats Nazis? I know we sometimes categorize their policies or actions as liberal, stupid, naive, etc. But comparing them to a group of people who slaughtered innocent people wholesale in death camps, performed torturous experimentation on human beings, and caused the second world war....is reaching beyond the realm of reason.

On that note I thought of another positive. He hasn't apologized for America being who we are in about 2 weeks.

[byebyelloyd]

Can we desist with calling democrats Nazis? I know we sometimes categorize their policies or actions as liberal, stupid, naive, etc. But comparing them to a group of people who slaughtered innocent people wholesale in death camps, performed torturous experimentation on human beings, and caused the second world war....is reaching beyond the realm of reason.

On that note I thought of another positive. He hasn't apologized for America being who we are in about 2 weeks.

no, sorry, but the nazis put every aspect of human life under government control, disarmed the public and persecuted anyone against their beliefs. thats right on track with dems, hence nazi dems.